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Title: Could Trump be preparing to name a running mate who makes him look like a safe pair of hands? Rumors swill that Sarah Palin is in the frame - despite 2008 disaster
Source: Daily Mail Online
URL Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art ... ame-despite-2008-disaster.html
Published: Aug 29, 2015
Author: Khaleda Rahman For Mailonline
Post Date: 2015-08-29 09:17:40 by cranky
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Views: 21715
Comments: 176

  • Gaffe-prone former Alaska governor has heaped praise on Trump recently
  • In interview, she has fawned over Trump, praising him for his 'strength'
  • And The Donald has said he would love 'special' Palin as his running mate

Sarah Palin could be joining Donald Trump’s presidential ticket in a dream celebrity pairing for the Republican Party.

The gaffe-prone former Alaska governor has heaped praise on Trump in recent interviews, adding that he is doing a great job of ‘shaking it up the way it should be’.

Now, it appears Palin, 51, could be entering another presidential race, returning to the same role she had in 2008 alongside John McCain – but this time as Trump’s running mate.

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Sarah Palin was asking Trump how he deals with media bias when she congratulated him for 'schooling' anchor Jorge Ramos, branding him a 'dangerous activist' for shouting questions at Trump

Sarah Palin was asking Trump how he deals with media bias when she congratulated him for 'schooling' anchor Jorge Ramos, branding him a 'dangerous activist' for shouting questions at Trump

Speaking to Extra TV, Palin said: ‘He is just getting crucified out there just for telling the truth. He’s doing a good job of that.’

She added: ‘He’s leading other candidates and having to talk about the issues that average Joe Six-Pack American wants to hear and wants to talk about.’

The Donald sparked rumors last month by saying he would ‘love’ to have Palin as a running mate.

‘She really is somebody who knows what's happening and she's a special person.’

And Palin fueled speculation further by deflecting questions on whether she would like to join the Trump ticket.

Trump also spoke about a tax crackdown on hedge fund managers and pledged to simplify the tax code for the middle class, who he said are being 'treated horribly'

Trump also spoke about a tax crackdown on hedge fund managers and pledged to simplify the tax code for the middle class, who he said are being 'treated horribly'

‘Well, there are so many good potential female running mates out there, and male running mates,’ she said.

Republican Party strategist Rick Wilson described the Trump and Palin's pairing as a 'singularity of celebrity politics'.

'Donald Trump is not a rational political actor and so the things you might expect of a rational political actor are not the sort of thing you should expect of Donald Trump, he told The Telegraph.

'So the truth is that any damn thing is possible with that man.'

Palin also leapt to Trump’s defence recently, when she hit out at Univision anchor Jorge Ramos during an interview, branding him a 'dangerous activist'.

Speaking about Ramos being ejected from a press conference for shouting questions about immigration, Palin told Trump: 'You sure schooled that radical activist. He's not doing that again.'

Palin made her remarks while asking Trump about the unfair treatment she claimed conservatives receive from the media, asking him whether he felt he was treated badly over the incident.

Trump reminded Palin that he is currently suing Univision for $500million after cancelling his Miss Teen USA pageant following his remarks on Mexicans when he launched his campaign.

He added: 'The press was actually quite good to me on that one, he was screaming and ranting and raving. I actually didn't know who he was at first.

'I would gladly have answered his question but he spoke out of turn. He was hurting the rest because the room was packed and they were waiting for questions.'

During another bizarre exchange, Palin asked Trump how he became 'strong' enough to deal with harsh questions - including when he was asked about his favorite Bible passage.

He replied: 'I love the Bible, I'm a Presbyterian. They were hitting me with questions one after another and then they said “what's your favorite verse?”

Among the other topics up for discussion were the Bible, which Trump said he loves more than his own book, and veterans, who Trump again pledged to protect

Among the other topics up for discussion were the Bible, which Trump said he loves more than his own book, and veterans, who Trump again pledged to protect

'That's a very personal thing, I don't like giving that out to people I hardly know. There are certain things that you and myself and a lot of other people like to keep personal.

'But I love the Bible. Somebody once held up The Art Of The Deal and I said "that's my second favorite book".'

The former running-mate to John McCain was quizzing GOP frontrunner Trump as part of a segment on One America News this evening.

As well as reiterating his pledges to properly support American veterans, Trump also spoke about plans to decrease taxes for the middle class.

The business mogul, who has previously boasted of his wealth, said that he would back a crackdown on hedge fund managers, who he says make huge profits 'but are hardly paying any tax'.

He added: 'We have a complex tax code that nobody understands. People have to spend tremendous amounts of money for accountants and lawyers.

'I'm in favour of simplifying the code and getting rid of reductions. You have to simplify the code.

'We have to help the middle class, the country was built on the middle class. They have so much to do with what we have now and they are being treated horribly.'

THE QUEEN OF BLUNDERS: SARAH PALIN'S BIGGEST GAFFES

Sarah Palin's (pictured with former running mate John McCain) campaign in 2008 was filled with gaffes

Sarah Palin's (pictured with former running mate John McCain) campaign in 2008 was filled with gaffes

Sarah Palin's vice-presidential campaign in 2008 was riddled with highly embarrassing blunders - mainly for her running mate John McCain.

She notoriously failed to name a single newspaper or magazine that she reads in an interview ith Katie Couric.

Palin said: 'I’ve read most of them again with a great appreciation for the press, for the media.'

But when Couric pressed for specific publications, Palin flubbed: 'Um, all of 'em, any of 'em that, um, have, have been in front of me over all these years.'

In another notable faux pas, she floundered through questions on the price of oil and the economy in Thanksgiving interview - in front of a man chopping off turkey heads.

Geography is definitely not Palin's strong suit.

In October 2008, she told supporters at a fundraising event in San Francisco: 'They are also building schools for the Afghan children so that there is hope and opportunity in our neighboring country of Afghanistan.'

Palin waded into the controversy over a mosque planned near Ground Zero in New York in 2010.

She took to Twitter to say: 'Ground Zero Mosque supporters: doesn't it stab you in the heart, as it does ours throughout the heartland? Peaceful Muslims, pls refudiate.'

The tweet was later deleted, likely when she realized 'refudiate' is not a word.

In a radio interview in November 2010, Sarah Palin was asked how the United States should respond to the escalating tension between North and South Korea.

She replied: 'Obviously, we've got to stand with our North Korean allies.'

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#94. To: Liberator (#84)

YOU are the one who believes Creation has NO Creator.

If that is true,who created God?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-30   12:35:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Liberator (#88)

The Creator...God...always was, has been, and will be.

If God is supposedly eternal, why can't the vastness of the universe be eternal? Why does it need to be created?

rlk  posted on  2015-08-30   12:36:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Liberator (#88)

The Creator...God...always was, has been, and will be. This physical world and its rules and laws do not apply in the Hereafter.

Ahhh,so it's MAGIC!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-30   12:36:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: GrandIsland (#90)

Unlike you,apparently,I was taught that ALL American citizens had the same rights and freedoms as every other American citizen

You were indoctrinated by libtards. We aren't "equal"... we never were.

You must have been created by librards because nowhere did I mention the word "equal" or equal rights with individual or group ability.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-30   12:38:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: sneakypete (#97)

You must have been created by librards because nowhere did I mention the word "equal" or equal rights

You might wanna re-read your own bullshit... that's exactly what you claim. Because men and woman can marry, men and men should be able to as well... equal.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-30   12:43:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: GrandIsland (#98)

You might wanna re-read your own bullshit... that's exactly what you claim. Because men and woman can marry, men and men should be able to as well... equal.

I'm not responsible for your brain-farts,Barney Fife. I'd try to dumb it down to your level of understanding,but I don't think I am up to a challenge that big.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-30   12:44:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: rlk, LF, sneakypete (#91)

On 2015-08-30 12:22:06, rlk wrote:

To: All

I'm still waiting for an answer.

Tick, tock, tick tock.

Already answered, Tin Man. The alarm clock already went off. Pay attention:

http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=41631&Disp=88#C88

This will also address your query as well, Pete.

It is the ultimate intellectual hubris and arrogance to believe mere mortals -- the intellectually finite of God's creations -- would or could somehow actually understand their Creator's explanation of the Infinite. If God were somehow to go to a blackboard and drew out his equation, we'd be as infants attempting to comprehend Einstein's Theory of Relativity on a blackboard.

God created man as well as ALL Creation -- including Time and Space.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-30   12:47:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: rlk, sneakypete (#95) (Edited)

If God is supposedly eternal, why can't the vastness of the universe be eternal? Why does it need to be created?

Because ALL that exists...IS created. By an Infinite Being. Why must there be an insistence or entitlement of demanding an understanding of the Infinite? You're not capable, nor programmed by God the Creator in this dimension of Life.

You may get a clue in the next one...but that's up to you.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-30   12:51:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: sneakypete (#96)

Ahhh,so it's MAGIC!

Nothing is so "magical" as NOTHING creating EVERYTHING. Is it??

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-30   12:53:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Liberator (#100)

It is the ultimate intellectual hubris and arrogance to believe mere mortals -- the intellectually finite of God's creations -- would or could somehow actually understand their Creator's explanation of the Infinite. If God were somehow to go to a blackboard and drew out his equation, we'd be as infants attempting to comprehend Einstein's Theory of Relativity on a blackboard.

God created man as well as ALL Creation -- including Time and Space.

It would have been simpler to have just written that you don't know,rather than try to invoke magic and hide it behind big words.

There are good REASONS why all religions are called "Faiths". It's because they exist on faith instead of reason and facts.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-30   12:54:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Liberator (#102)

Nothing is so "magical" as NOTHING creating EVERYTHING. Is it??

Yes. Nothing creating a God,and then farming out the rest of creation to him/it/whatever.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-30   12:55:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Liberator (#101)

Because ALL that exists...IS created. By an Infinite Being. Why must there be an insistence or entitlement of demanding an understanding of the Infinite? You're not capable, nor programmed by God the Creator in this dimension of Life.

So you arbitrarily decree one thing for which you have no evidence to be eternal while another to be arbitrarily not eternal.

rlk  posted on  2015-08-30   13:05:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Don (#49)

Many people haven't read a newspaper in years. They read the Internet.

Gee - I wonder why Sarah didn't have the smarts to say that during her interview? I mean good grief - it was a simple, straightforward question and Palin couldn't name even ONE?

COURIC: And when it comes to establishing your world view, I was curious, what newspapers and magazines did you regularly read before you were tapped for this — to stay informed and to understand the world?

PALIN: I’ve read most of them again with a great appreciation for the press, for the media, coming f—

COURIC: But like which ones specifically? I’m curious that you—

PALIN: Um, all of 'em, any of 'em that, um, have, have been in front of me over all these years. Um, I have a va—

COURIC: Can you name a few?

PALIN: I have a vast variety of sources where we get our news too. Alaska isn't a foreign country, where, it's kind of suggested and it seems like, 'Wow, how could you keep in touch with what the rest of Washington, D.C. may be thinking and doing when you live up there in Alaska?' Believe me, Alaska is like a microcosm of America.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-08-30   13:14:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: sneakypete (#99)

I'd try to dumb it down to your level of understanding,but I don't think I am up to a challenge that big.

Thats YELLA code for... I'm not smart enough to spin my bullshit in a way I can prove you wrong.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-30   13:19:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: sneakypete (#92)

f you did you would complain that Lebron James is not allowed to play on the WNBA.

You were dropped on your head a lot when you were a child,weren't you?

I can think of no other explanation for "logic" like that.

It is your logic as a supporter of everythig being equal.

Why do they discriminate against Lebron? If he was a woman he would be to play but as a man he can't. That isn't equal.

Just like a man can marry a woman but not a man.

Same logic dipshit.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-08-30   13:29:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Liberator (#101)

Because ALL that exists...IS created.

Including Gods.

By an Infinite Being

Trying to have it both ways,are you?

Accidents also happen Or are you saying there is no such thing as accidents?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-30   15:41:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Liberator (#102) (Edited)

Nothing is so "magical" as NOTHING creating EVERYTHING. Is it??

Nope,that's why people with more imagination (or fear) than intellect need to create a Big Ranger in the Sky that knows when you've been naughty or nice to explain it all.

And NOTHING sells better than the promise of an eternal life with no pain and all joy in a place called "Heaven".

Take away the promise of an eternal life of comfort and joy,and you could hold prayer meetings in a phone booth.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-30   15:43:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: rlk, Liberator (#105)

So you arbitrarily decree one thing for which you have no evidence to be eternal while another to be arbitrarily not eternal.

That's why religions are always referred to as "faiths". They are based on faith,not proof.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-30   15:46:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: GrandIsland (#107)

Thats YELLA code for... I'm not smart enough to spin my bullshit in a way I can prove you wrong.

No,it's just another way of saying my time would be better spent trying to teach a mule how to tapdance that trying to teach a government troll how to think.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-30   15:48:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: A K A Stone (#108)

It is your logic as a supporter of everythig being equal.

WHERE have I ever claimed that everything is equal? Quotes,please.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-30   15:49:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: sneakypete (#113)

WHERE have I ever claimed that everything is equal? Quotes,please.

Short memory Pete ~ I was taught that ALL American citizens had the same rights

"same" and "equal" are equally the same... That's just one example.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-30   16:30:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: GrandIsland (#114)

Short memory Pete ~ I was taught that ALL American citizens had the same rights

"same" and "equal" are equally the same... That's just one example.

I know you were a career cog in a government machine,but are you really so stupid you equate ability with rights?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-30   19:14:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: sneakypete, rlk (#94)

Who created God?

Who created the very first second of time?

Who created the very first molecule?

Who create the very first thought?

Who created...matter, life, reason, and purpose?

Any and ALL logic points to God.

Who created God?

Illogical. The Creator and Author of all things could only have been created...by...An Eternal Creator.

How can you really reject an Eternal, Omnipotent "God" simply because neither of you can wrap your head around the simple notion that The Creator has no Beginning nor End? The Universe's Laws of Physics don't apply in a dimension you don't concede exists.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-31   12:06:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: rlk, sneakypete (#95)

If God is supposedly eternal, why can't the vastness of the universe be eternal? Why does it need to be created?

How does one expect answers to the questions or challenges for the reason and purpose of Creation known only by the Creator?

The only source of addressing nearly any of your respective questions can only be found in Scripture -- and even then, your heart needs to be opened -- though you may not find much of the specificity you demand.

I've already mentioned this; Even IF God emerged to speak to you personally to answer such questions, how would a mortal man with his finite mind understand the Infinite?

The ONLY way your curiosity would ever be satisfied and God's mysteries revealed would be in the presence of God the Creator. How do we know that?:

"But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither has entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him." 1 Corinthians 2:9 KJV

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-31   12:17:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: sneakypete (#96)

The Creator...God...always was, has been, and will be. This physical world and its rules and laws do not apply in the Hereafter.

Ahhh,so it's MAGIC!

Which definition do you subscribe to?:

Full Definition of MAGIC
1
a :  the use of means (as charms or spells) believed to have supernatural power over natural forces
b :  magic rites or incantations
2
a :  an extraordinary power or influence seemingly from a supernatural source
b :  something that seems to cast a spell :  enchantment
3
:  the art of producing illusions by sleight of hand

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-31   12:20:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: sneakypete (#103)

It would have been simpler to have just written that you don't know,rather than try to invoke magic and hide it behind big words.

Oh, but I DO know with 100% certainty that God created Everything. WITH purpose. With what proof do you assume that I'm lying? OR, don't know for sure?

God's creation may sure seem like "magic" -- it's truly miraculous to peer into a microscope at a female egg and sperm and KNOW that the union of the two will result in a living, breathing, THINKING, functioning person.

Is knowing that such a union of egg and sperm "faith" OR fact?

Btw -- which "big words" was I "hiding behind"? I had no idea I was going full-William Buckley on you, lol. I'll try to reduce my syllables next time.

There are good REASONS why all religions are called "Faiths". It's because they exist on faith instead of reason and facts.

Believing with absolute surety in a Creator-God isn't "faith"; It's innate logic and knowledge.

Believing that NOTHING created EVERYTHING is "faith"; Faith that 0 + 0 = Infinity. Your equation is the furthest thing from the very "reason and fact" that you represent is the case.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-31   12:33:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: rlk (#105) (Edited)

So you arbitrarily decree one thing for which you have no evidence to be eternal while another to be arbitrarily not eternal.

You're stretching.

Bottom line AGAIN; You deny your innate knowledge and logic that a Creator exists, as well as overwhelming physical AND intellectual proof that all life is programmed with reason and purpose...

And again, you and your finite mind could not ever hope to understand the Infinite mind. Scripture gives you hints of enlightenment; God gives you enlightenment and guidance. But to demand some kind of Blueprint from the Creator is a special kind of hubris and entitlement.

"But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him." 1 Corinthians 2:9

It is a wise man who fears the Lord. The reward eternal. Why keep on rejecting God's grace? It's there for the taking.

It seems to me that in your advanced years you ought to be un-hardening your your heart and opening it; humbling yourself and seeking the wisdom of attempting understanding the Gospel and cultivating whatever seed of faith you possess.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-31   12:47:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: sneakypete (#110) (Edited)

NOTHING sells better than the promise of an eternal life with no pain and all joy in a place called "Heaven".

And Jesus Christ (the Man) as well as his executed disciples profited....HOW again?

Those who open their heart and read Scripture have a hunger...for truth. And hunger for hope in this life as well as for eternity.

Is there anything to fear from rejecting the Gospel? You bet! Is there redemption for those of us who fail everyday in being a "good" person? You bet! Is the promise of Grace legitimate that all who hear and embrace the Gospel that they will indeed be promised an an "eternal life with no pain and all joy in a place called "Heaven," or "The Kingdom of God"?

There's a time and place for cynicism. But this ain't it. If there's one decision you make (while you still can) to accept such a promise from God, why reject it on ANY level? Believing in the Gospel makes you a wise man, not a fool.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-31   13:00:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: GrandIsland, sneakypete (#114) (Edited)

WHERE have I ever claimed that everything is equal? Quotes,please.

Short memory Pete ~ I was taught that ALL American citizens had the same rights

I was taught the same thing, as per the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.

I disagree with pete on gay marriage - to me that is a long held religious tradition/ceremony ordained by God that can only occur between a man and a woman.

I do however agree that gays, blacks, whites, muslims, sikh, buddhists and those of any religion or belief system have the same rights - no more, no less - than any other American.

Edit : Should have been addressed to Liberator/sneakyppete.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-08-31   13:55:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Liberator (#116) (Edited)

Illogical. The Creator and Author of all things could only have been created...by...An Eternal Creator.

Un,huh.

Prove it.

Then prove the force that created him/her/it/whatever.

And then prove the force that created that.

All this is WHY man dreamed up the idea of a God. It explains what can't be understood by giving the credit to an all-powerful magical being. Any question asked can be asked with "Because it was God's will!"

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-31   13:55:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: sneakypete (#123)

All this is WHY man dreamed up the idea of a God. It explains what can't be understood by giving the credit to an all-powerful magical being.

Prove it.

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-31   13:57:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: Liberator (#117)

The only source of addressing nearly any of your respective questions can only be found in Scripture -- and even then, your heart needs to be opened -- though you may not find much of the specificity you demand.

And there you have it. "God" only exists for those who believe he/she/it/whatever exists. It's an article of faith than can be neither proved or disproved.

It's an individual thing. If you are a true believer,God is real. If you don't believe,he isn't.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-31   13:58:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: Liberator (#118)

Which definition do you subscribe to?:

Full Definition of MAGIC 1 a : the use of means (as charms or spells) believed to have supernatural power over natural forces b : magic rites or incantations 2 a : an extraordinary power or influence seemingly from a supernatural source b : something that seems to cast a spell : enchantment 3 : the art of producing illusions by sleight of hand

All of the above.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-31   13:59:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: Liberator (#119)

With what proof do you assume that I'm lying? OR, don't know for sure?

I do NOT assume you or any other True Believer is lying. You believe it to the point where it is absolutely true for you,and anything you claim that you believe to be true is not a lie. All any of us can do is speak the truth AS WE KNOW/UNDERSTAND IT.

None of which means I have to agree with you.

Or that you have to agree with me.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-31   14:02:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: Liberator (#121)

NOTHING sells better than the promise of an eternal life with no pain and all joy in a place called "Heaven".

And Jesus Christ (the Man) as well as his executed disciples profited....HOW again?

"Profited" is a big work with a wide meaning. It can mean anything from obtaining wealth,goods,services,or even profiting from the self-satisfaction you feel from doing something you perceive to be "good".

I know this may come as a shock to some of you,but I did NOT know Jesus personally,so I can't state with any certainty what his goals were. I can only assume he meant well,and if he got free rent,food,and living expenses out of it,he earned them.

Not that it makes any difference at all what I think about him.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-31   14:07:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Deckard (#122)

I disagree with pete on gay marriage - to me that is a long held religious tradition/ceremony ordained by God that can only occur between a man and a woman.

Well,the thing is that marriage existed long before the Christian religion.

Granted,if you want to get married in a Christian Church,in a just and free society the Church has the right to say yes or no,depending on who you are and the church policy. Since civil ceremonies exist and are easy for anyone to arrange,your toes are NOT being stepped on and your rights are NOT being denied if they decide that marrying you would conflict with their religious beliefs.

Then again,in a just world,no religions would take the Kings Money and agree to do the Kings Work. They would remain independent of any and all governments,and operate off their own dimes.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-31   14:12:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: redleghunter (#124)

All this is WHY man dreamed up the idea of a God. It explains what can't be understood by giving the credit to an all-powerful magical being.

Prove it.

Are you starting to catch on to the fact that the existence of any God can not be proven until and unless that God starts making public appearances, and that you can NOT prove than any God does NOT exist because it is impossible to prove a negative?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-31   14:14:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: sneakypete (#128)

I know this may come as a shock to some of you,but I did NOT know Jesus personally,so I can't state with any certainty what his goals were. I can only assume he meant well,and if he got free rent,food,and living expenses out of it,he earned them.

Not that it makes any difference at all what I think about him.

I know this will also be a shock to YOU, but there are millions of people who DO know Jesus....personally. I am one of them; You'll find a good half-dozen posters at this forum who will say the same. He's as real to me as any person, place, or thing.

The record of Jesus' mission, wisdom, and goal is on record, Pete.

Unfortunately, you can't "know" what you readily reject; Though you have eyes you can't "see"; You can't hear because you won't listen.

Yes, it DOES make a difference what you think about Jesus, the historical Man. It's the difference between eternal life and the alternative.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-31   14:24:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: sneakypete (#129)

Then again,in a just world,no religions would take the Kings Money and agree to do the Kings Work. They would remain independent of any and all governments,and operate off their own dimes.

That's a good point and I agree 100%.

As long as churches continue to operate under the 501(c)3 provision, they are merely operating as a branch of the government.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-08-31   14:24:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: sneakypete, redleghunter (#130)

God can not be proven until and unless that God starts making public appearances...

In examining my aforementioned example of a woman's egg and man's sperm under a microscope...co-mingled to create an incredible code of human life...If THAT doesn't "prove" God's existence, then what does?

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-31   14:29:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: Deckard, sneakypete, redleghunter (#132)

Then again,in a just world,no religions would take the Kings Money and agree to do the Kings Work. They would remain independent of any and all governments,and operate off their own dimes.

No one said this was a "just world" -- point not taken.

Moreover, just what does the acceptance of government money have to do with adherence to the Gospel?

As long as churches continue to operate under the 501(c)3 provision, they are merely operating as a branch of the government.

Uh, no, not quite traditionally. But if this government is going to insist (unprecedentedly by the way) on dictating terms and content of worship, then ONLY in that case does your argument hold a single drop of water.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-31   14:33:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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