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Mexican Invasion
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Title: Mexico warns Texas not to refuse its immigrants' babies U.S. birth certificates
Source: Fox News Latino
URL Source: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/ne ... s-babies-usbirth-certificates/
Published: Aug 27, 2015
Author: Uncredited
Post Date: 2015-08-27 23:18:39 by cranky
Keywords: None
Views: 1657
Comments: 8

The Mexican government is warning that Texas’ denial of birth certificates for U.S. children born here to undocumented immigrants stands to imperil the relationship between Mexico and the Lone Star State.

The concern was raised in an amicus brief filed Monday evening to lend support to immigrants parents who sued Texas after being denied birth certificates for their U.S.-born children, even after showing their “matrículas,” the ID cards issued by the Mexican consulate to undocumented immigrants.

Mexico says the practice stands in stark contrast to the historical practice among countries to accept passports or other forms of ID to issue birth certificates.

[It] not only jeopardizes their dignity and well-being, but could threaten the unique relationship between Mexico and Texas, the Mexican government said in a brief tied to a lawsuit filed against the state by Texas Civil Rights Project and Texas Rio Grande Legal Aid.

The lawsuit, the Texas Tribune reported, was filed on behalf of six U.S. citizen children and their undocumented parents, who came from Mexico, Honduras and Guatemala. Other groups since have joined the suit.

A main point of contention is the all-out refusal at some county registrars offices to accept as a valid form of ID anything short of a U.S. visa or consulate ID card, the Tribune said.

The families who are suing say that Texas is violating the 14th amendment and that the state is superseding federal immigration laws.

Texas officials are claiming sovereignty issues and argue that the United States cannot fight them.

They long have said that consulate-issued identification cards are not considered reliable forms of ID.

The Mexican government is requesting that Texas be clear about what two forms of ID it will accept in order to give the children U.S. birth certificate.

“Our argument isn’t ‘yes matrícula, no matrícula,’” said attorney Jennifer Harbury, who represents the families, to the Tribune. “The argument is ‘what will you take that people can actually get?’ They have to take something. [The children] were born here. They are U.S. citizens.”

The amicus brief also claims that denying the children U.S. birth certificates blocks their claims to Mexican citizenship. A child born to Mexican parents has that right but must show proof of identity. Infringing on that is a violation of international law, the brief states.

Mexican Consulate officials argue that the matricula is, in many ways, more secure because it includes biometric technology, unlike the driver’s licenses in some states.

They say a parent’s undocumented status should not affect a child’s ability to obtain a birth certificate.

“We think that they are not immigration authorities,” he said. “The passport is the official way to identify oneself.” (1 image)

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#1. To: cranky, All (#0)

Mexican Consulate officials argue that the matricula is, in many ways, more secure because it includes biometric technology, unlike the driver’s licenses in some states.

They say a parent’s undocumented status should not affect a child’s ability to obtain a birth certificate.

THen let Mexico issue it. I wonder if Mexico considers that baby a Mexican citizen.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-08-27   23:22:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: SOSO (#1)

I wonder if Mexico considers that baby a Mexican citizen.

According to a Mexican presidente "wherever there is a Mexican, there is Mexico" so my guess is Mexico considers Texas a part of Mexico again.

There are three kinds of people in the world: those that can add and those that can't

cranky  posted on  2015-08-27   23:26:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: cranky (#0)

The Mexican government is warning that Texas’ denial of birth certificates for U.S. children born here to undocumented immigrants stands to imperil the relationship between Mexico and the Lone Star State.

That sounds like an empty threat.

rlk  posted on  2015-08-27   23:36:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: cranky (#2)

According to a Mexican presidente "wherever there is a Mexican, there is Mexico" so my guess is Mexico considers Texas a part of Mexico again.

By that argument, it does.

rlk  posted on  2015-08-27   23:41:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: cranky (#0)

A main point of contention is the all-out refusal at some county registrars offices to accept as a valid form of ID anything short of a U.S. visa or consulate ID card, the Tribune said.

They are really bitching about a refusal of Texas to accept a matricula consular issued to illegal immigrants in the U.S. by a Mexican consulate. They can always present a valid passport -- but it needs a valid visa and they are here illegally. They can go to Mexico, get a passport, and come back.

The required documents are listed in 25 Texas Administrative Code §181.28(i), relevant part provided below.

The U.S. is not required to accept these b.s. documents as proof of anything. Their problem is proving the baby was born in the U.S. The child could have been born in Mexico and transported to the U.S. later.

Getting a piece of crap from a consulate leaves the parents as undocumented immigrants in the U.S.

The Mexican government is warning that Texas’ denial of birth certificates for U.S. children born here to undocumented immigrants stands to imperil the relationship between Mexico and the Lone Star State.

Here is the actual legal COMPLAINT.

Perales Serna v Texas Department of Health Services, TXWD 15-Cv-00446, Doc 1 COMPLAINT

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http://txrules.elaws.us/rule/title25_chapter181_sec.181.28

25 Texas Administrative Code, SECTION 181.28. Instructions and Requirements for
Issuance of Certified Copies of Vital Records by the State Registrar, Local
Registrar, or County Clerk 

[...]

(i) Properly Qualified Applicant Acceptable Documentation.

(1) In accordance with Health and Safety Code, §191.051, "Certified Copies," all lobby and mail-in applications submitted to obtain certified documents must meet the guidelines set out in this rule. (2) All applicants for certified documents must present proof of identity acceptable to the State Registrar. (3) All requests for certified documents must be submitted on a state-approved application or in a format that is acceptable to the State Registrar. (4) All lobby and mail-in applications submitted to obtain certified documents must contain the applicant's signature. (5) All applicants must sufficiently identify the vital record that is of interest at the time of request. (6) All primary identification documents must have a United States issuance origin. (7) All identification documents must be verifiable by the source that issued the document. (8) The Vital Statistics Unit shall retain a photocopy of all documents submitted and accepted as proof of identification in accordance with the retention period in subsection (e) of this section. (9) All applicants must present identification consistent with the following identification requirements: (A) primary identification outlined in paragraph (10) of this subsection; or (B) secondary identification reflected in paragraph (11) of this subsection; and (C) supporting documentation stated in paragraph (12) of this subsection.

(10) Primary Identification. (A) Primary Identification documents do not require supporting instruments, unless otherwise specified. (B) All acceptable Primary Identification documents must be current and valid. (C) The applicant's identification must contain the applicant's name and photograph that establishes the applicant's identity. (D) Acceptable forms of Primary Identification: (i) Driver's License; (ii) Federal or State Identification card; (iii) Federal, State or City law enforcement employment identification card, or employment badge accompanied by employment identification card; (iv) Offender Identification card issued by the Department of Criminal Justice correctional facility or institution; (v) Military Identification card; (vi) Department of Homeland Security, United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) issued: (I) Employment Authorization Document (EAD); (II) Permanent Resident Card (green card); (III) Travel Documents: (-a-) Re-entry Permit; (-b-) Refugee Travel Permit; or (-c-) Advance Parole. (IV) SENTRI Card; or (V) U.S. Citizen Identification Card. (vii) United States Department of State issued: (I) Border Crossing Card (B1 for business or pleasure or B2 medical purposes); or (II) Visa. (viii) Concealed Handgun License; (ix) Pilot's license; or (x) United States Passport.

(11) Secondary identification.

(A) In the absence of a form of primary identification, applicants are permitted to submit secondary forms of identification to establish proof of their identity. (B) When submitting secondary forms of identification, applicants are required to produce: (i) two forms of Acceptable Secondary Identification, of different types; or (ii) one form of Acceptable Secondary Identification, plus two forms of Acceptable Supporting Identification of different types. (C) When submitting secondary forms of identification, the documents combined must confirm the identity of the applicant. At least one of the documents must contain the applicant's name, signature, or identifiable photo of the applicant. (D) Acceptable forms secondary identification: (i) Current student identification; (ii) Any Primary Identification that is expired; (iii) Signed Social Security card, or Numident; (iv) DD Form 214 Certificate of Release; (v) Medicaid card; (vi) Medicare card; (vii) Veterans Affairs card; (viii) Medical insurance card; (ix) Foreign Passport accompanied by a Visa issued by the United States Department of State; (x) Foreign Passport in accordance with the United States Department of State, Visa Waiver Program; (xi) Certified birth certificate from the Department of State (FS-240, DS-1350 or FS-545); (xii) Private Company Employment Identification card; (xiii) Form I-94 - accompanied by the applicant's Visa or Passport; (xiv) Mexican voter registration card; or (xv) Foreign Identification with identifiable photo of applicant.

(12) Supporting Identification--Other records or documents that verify the applicant's identity. The Vital Statistics Unit refers to their policy for acceptable supporting identification. The examining or supervisory personnel may determine that a supporting identification document may meet the department's requirements in establishing identity.

Source Note: The provisions of this §181.28 adopted to be effective March 16, 1995, 20 TexReg 1559; amended to be effective July 3, 2003, 28 TexReg 4904; amended to be effective July 22, 2004, 29 TexReg 6936; amended to be effective August 11, 2013, 38 TexReg 4896

nolu chan  posted on  2015-08-28   1:17:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: cranky (#0)

"[It] not only jeopardizes their dignity and well-being, but could threaten the unique relationship between Mexico and Texas"

Or, more correctly, it threatens the unique relationship between the anchor baby and thousands of dollars in U.S. government benefits.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-28   10:08:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: cranky (#0)

Is Mexico declaring war on Texas? Just what is this "unique relationship" and what would destruction of it look like?

Don  posted on  2015-08-28   15:58:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: cranky (#0)

You know I wonder how long it will take for Justice to get involved and tell Texas they can't do that???

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-08-28   16:51:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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