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Title: A Reader Reports The Mexican Government Thinks Anchor Babies Are “Subject To” THEIR Jurisdiction
Source: VDare
URL Source: http://www.vdare.com/letters/a-read ... -subject-to-their-jurisdiction
Published: Aug 23, 2015
Author: A Southern Reader
Post Date: 2015-08-23 18:38:41 by nativist nationalist
Keywords: None
Views: 1072
Comments: 3

Ann Coulter does very well in this article, but it does not address the “subject to jurisdiction” argument. She might be interested in my view, below:

The ruling part of the US Constitution is Amendment Fourteen: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

Here is the ruling part of the Mexican Constitution, Section II, Article Thirty:

Article 30

Mexican nationality is acquired by birth or by naturalization:

Mexicans by birth are: Those born in the territory of the Republic, regardless of the nationality of their parents: Those born in a foreign country of Mexican parents; of a Mexican father and a foreign mother; or of a Mexican mother and an unknown father; III. Those born on Mexican vessels or airships, either war or merchant vessels. “

A baby born to Mexican nationals within the United States is automatically a Mexican citizen. Under the anchor baby reasoning, this baby acquires US citizenship at the same time and so is a dual citizen.

Mexican citizenship is primary because it stems from a primary source, the parents’ citizenship and the law of Mexico. The Mexican Constitution states the child of Mexican parents is automatically a Mexican citizen at birth no matter where the birth occurs.

Since the child would be a Mexican citizen in any country, and becomes an American citizen only if born in America, it is clear that Mexico has the primary claim of citizenry on the child. This alone should be enough to satisfy the Fourteenth Amendment jurisdiction thereof argument. Since Mexican citizenship is primary, it has primary jurisdiction and by the plain words of the Fourteenth such child is not an American citizen at birth.

There is a second argument for primary Mexican citizenship in the case of anchor babies. Citizenship, whether Mexican or American, establishes rights and duties. Citizenship is a reciprocal relationship, thus establishing jurisdiction. This case for primary Mexican citizenship is supported by the fact that Mexico allows and encourages Mexicans resident in the US, either illegal aliens or legal residents, to vote in Mexican elections.

They are counted as Mexican citizens abroad, even if dual citizens, and their government provides widespread consular services as well as voting access to Mexicans residing in the US. As far as Mexico is concerned, these persons are not Mexican in name only, but have a civil relationship strong enough to allow a political voice; in essence, full citizenship. Clearly, all this is the expression of typical reciprocal civic relationships expressed in legal citizenship, further supporting the establishment of jurisdiction.

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#1. To: nativist nationalist (#0)

If the US doesn't have jurisdiction, then the illegals have immunity from prosecution in the US. You can't try them and you can't sue them, just like diplomats.

Not happening. Words mean things, and "jurisdiction" means "subject to the courts and laws". Illegals are (diplomats are not). Therefore, their kids born here are natural born citizens, per the 14th.

Slam dunk.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-08-23   23:29:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: nativist nationalist (#0)

A Reader Reports The Mexican Government Thinks Anchor Babies Are “Subject To” THEIR Jurisdiction

Send them all to Mexico and they can have all the Jurisdiction they want!

rlk  posted on  2015-08-24   1:37:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: nativist nationalist (#0)

A baby born to Mexican nationals within the United States is automatically a Mexican citizen. Under the anchor baby reasoning, this baby acquires US citizenship at the same time and so is a dual citizen.

For a child born in the U.S. and subject to U.S. jurisdiction, the U.S. ignores the laws of other countries.

If birther theory were adopted, Mexico could declare all babies born in the U.S. have Mexican citizenship and nobody would be eligible to be President.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-08-24   14:37:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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