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Title: TEEN, GRANDPA DIE IN FIRE CAUSED BY DISCARDED MARIJUANA PIPE
Source: AP News
URL Source: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie ... AULT&CTIME=2015-08-20-11-23-45
Published: Aug 20, 2015
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Post Date: 2015-08-20 14:25:11 by nativist nationalist
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Views: 2280
Comments: 8

ALTOONA, Pa. (AP) -- A 15-year-old boy and his disabled Vietnam veteran grandfather have been killed in an apartment fire caused by a marijuana pipe the man had been smoking, authorities said.

Automatic alarms summoned fire crews at about 3:30 a.m. Wednesday to the high-rise apartment in Altoona, but Sheldon Bare, 69, and his visiting grandson, Ryan Bare, died at a hospital. Their deaths have been ruled accidental.

Ryan was found in the apartment's bedroom, while the marijuana pipe was found near the living room couch, Altoona police Lt. Jeffrey Pratt said. The couch and other contents of the room were engulfed in flames when firefighters arrived, Altoona Fire Chief Tim Hileman said.

Bare's apartment was on the top floor of an 11-story building run by the Altoona Housing Authority for elderly and disabled residents.

Bare's sister, Holly Spatafora, told The Altoona Mirror that the Department of Veterans Affairs declared her brother 100 percent disabled about 25 years after he served three tours in Vietnam.

She and her sister, Linda Scalice, said Bare returned from the war moody, reclusive and anti-social with a quick temper, likely from post-traumatic stress disorder.

"The man that came home was no longer my brother," Spatafora said. "He was just never happy again."

Bare was twice divorced, with two children from each wife. He worked in a steel mill before the war but never steadily thereafter, Spatafora said.

Although Bare lived alone, "a lot of people looked after him," and he was especially close to his four grandchildren, Spatafora said.

"He was one of the walking wounded," Spatafora said.


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#1. To: nativist nationalist (#0)

Sad story, and very sad ending!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-08-20   14:36:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: nativist nationalist (#0) (Edited)

How come the title didn't have "Yet another tragic marijuana-related death!" in it?

BTW,has ANYBODY ever heard of a pipe getting so hot from smoking that it would set fire to a couch or a carpet? If it gets that hot,how would you be able to hold onto it to smoke it?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-20   15:42:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: sneakypete (#2)

" BTW,has ANYBODY ever heard of a pipe getting so hot from smoking that it would set fire to a couch or a carpet? If it gets that hot,how would you be able to hold onto it to smoke it? "

It does not seem credible.

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Stoner  posted on  2015-08-20   16:21:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: sneakypete (#2)

How come the title didn't have "Yet another tragic marijuana-related death!" in it?

BTW,has ANYBODY ever heard of a pipe getting so hot from smoking that it would set fire to a couch or a carpet? If it gets that hot,how would you be able to hold onto it to smoke it?

Dunno...Not an expert. We may have a few here that know though...

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redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-20   16:29:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: nativist nationalist (#0)

The pipe would never get hot enough to start a fire.

More likely, he set the pipe down while it was still burning and it tipped over and started a fire he didn't notice.

At least the Drug Warriors will be happy: "Marijuana Will Kill You And Your Family"!

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-21   18:38:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: TooConservative (#5)

"More likely, he set the pipe down while it was still burning and it tipped over and started a fire he didn't notice."

Most likely he got high, passed out and dropped the pipe, starting the fire. Which would explain why he did nothing to put it out.

Too bad he didn't just kill himself -- which is what the dopers tell us drug users do.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-21   18:53:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: misterwhite (#6)

Too bad he didn't just kill himself -- which is what the dopers tell us drug users do.

I've seen the claim here that in all of recorded human history no one has ever died from using pot. If that is true it means that marijuana's perfect safety record of zero fatalities through the millenia has just been ruined.

nativist nationalist  posted on  2015-08-21   19:26:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: nativist nationalist (#7)

$5 says some have died from lung cancer from smoking pot so I doubt he was the first.

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-08-21   20:30:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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