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Title: Psychology studies show that police supporters & terrorists think alike
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Intellihub
URL Source: https://www.intellihub.com/psycholo ... orters-terrorists-think-alike/
Published: Aug 20, 2015
Author: Joshua Scott Hotchkin
Post Date: 2015-08-20 10:02:50 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 947
Comments: 17
A recent article from the Australian media outlet SBS showing how Scientism is psychologically identical to religion or other forms of ideological extremism and dogma has some interesting implications regarding the supporters of police and the state. Before I make that connection, take a look at what the article had to say about the psychological roots of extremism. Last year, the University of Maryland’s Arie Kruglanski detailed evidence that psychology, not theology, is at the root of extremist ideologies. Extremist groups like ISIL offer adherents a sense of personal worth, he argued, but they also provide believers with certainties about the world that they so desperately need. Whether studying extremists in Morocco, Northern Ireland, Palestine, the Philippines, Spain, or Sri Lanka, Kruglanski found that believers all displayed a desire for certainty and structure that was higher than average. For extremists, Kruglanski wrote in the online journal E-International Relations, the world is one of “good versus evil, saints versus sinners, order versus chaos; a pure universe in black and white admitting no shades of gray.” As his research shows, we all have different baseline levels of need for closure, but our distaste for ambiguity can also be heightened by uncertainty and stress. Extremism results, in part, when our natural need for order is enflamed by disorder. The content of extremist beliefs, beyond their status-reassuring certainties, is incidental. Moral relativism, which holds that objective criteria do not exist for judging norms, seems to spring from this link between extremism and the craving for certainty. As NYU student Zachary Fine observed in The New York Times last year: “The byproducts of absolute truths and intractable forms of ideology … historically seem linked to bigotry and prejudice.” Indeed, Kruglanski’s concept of the need for closure and the very study of the intolerance of ambiguity stem from post-World War II attempts to understand Nazism. The psychology of extremism reveals an important point: part of what makes a belief system dangerous is its dogmatic denial of uncertainty. Every supporter of the state and their guardians, the police, cite the necessity of their existence with a list of all the scary things that could happen if those agencies did not exist. Nevermind that those scary things still do happen and are done more often by the state and its servants than by any individual in history, or all of them not serving the state, combined. It is always primal fear of the chaos and uncertainty that exists naturally in our reality which becomes the sticking point for why people continue to believe that police, governments or other bureaucracies MUST exist. That this can be demonstrated to be irrational through examining the horrors of authoritarianism makes no difference to them. The reason that logic and reason do not matter to those who put faith in powers above their own is that it is all predicated on emotional response and has nothing at all to do with any legitimate intellectual factors. Police, the state, theism and all other institutions of authority over the individual are merely ‘safety blankets’ for the emotionally fragile. And through the masses of people who are unable to reason through their fears and emotional and existential hang-ups, there comes support for institutions which provide the perfect home for the very worst among us. Their beliefs have created a protector costume and filled it with predators. The world is an uncertain place with the possibility of danger always present. That is the very nature of our reality. Reality cannot be policed against. You cannot construct laws to undermine the laws of probability. No system or institution can eradicate chaos from this existence. It exists naturally as part of the experience of living. Without that uncertainty and breadth of possibility our lives would mean nothing. Money that cannot be spent is worthless just as lives that cannot be lost have no purpose. Surviving the difficult obstacles that reality throws before us is what makes it worth living. Perfection is an unchanging hell. Chaos exists. It is a natural extension of our being. To allow ourselves to fear it to the extent that we attempt to deny the inevitable through comforting delusions of order only creates disorder. Order is entropic. It breaks down over time. Things that break down must undergo radical processes to do so. These radical processes are what we experience as an increase of disorder in our world. Therefore it is not chaos which threatens us as much as what we do out of fear of it. That fear can set off a chain reaction of social and belief structures that do even more to create the things we feared in the first place. If the world seems increasingly disordered to you, it is not because more order is needed. It is because having tried that solution unsuccessfully for so long has created the perceived increase in disorder. If terrorists and criminals seem worse than ever it is because, like wasps, when you swat their nest they become irate and swarm after you. There are no more wasps than there were before, you just created conditions in which the wasps effect on your being is increased exponentially. Police and the state they serve are an apparatus that exists by swatting nests and then offering to protect you from the wasps – for a price. Whether that price be the hard-earned money of your labors, the erosion of your rights and liberties or the increased threat of angry wasps, you will have to pay. The world pays. If you were to look at the world like a game and yourself like a player, then you would come to see that chaos creates the challenges that make the game exciting. But playing with authority is like playing with cheaters. Maybe the cheaters harm you, maybe not. But if the only way you got to the end of the game was by cheating, it probably wasn’t even worth playing.
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#1. To: Deckard, Y'ALL, misterwhite, grandisland (#0)
Excellent article.. Best quote, one our resident authoritarians should read and try to understand: ---
The police don't have the manpower or resources to "guard or protect" anyone, even the libtards that desire bigger and stronger government. You obviously slept through Ferguson and the Baltimore riots. The police didn't guard or protect shit... and you want the readers here to think the police are capable of controlling armed America. I laugh at you. If the urban animals of Ferguson didn't finally stop acting like Deckards on their own, the riots would have continued to this day unless YOUR GOVERNMENT stepped in, like the Guard and restored order. So, here's a little secret you've been too ignorant to learn on your own, if this country ever sees the Orwellian nightmare you fear monger about, it won't be the state, county or local cops... it will be your government and military. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Yeah, that pretty much sums up the sorry state of "law enforcement" these days. They are more like an armed gang going after the weakest victims and acting as revenue collectors for the State. If the urban animals of Ferguson didn't finally stop acting like Deckards on their own... GFY assclown. In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much Deckard ~ Yeah, that pretty much sums up Then stop spilling your Kool-Aid around for the weak to drink.... of course you agree with me. It just doesn't contribute to your agenda. Thank you for being honest for once... even though you only achieved that honesty because it was an opprrtunity to put LE down. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
"-- Every supporter of the state and their guardians, the police, cite the necessity of their existence with a list of all the scary things that could happen if those agencies did not exist. ---" Strange you should make that claim, seeing you're one of the "libtards" that wants a bigger, stronger govt. You're insane to think that I think that way. Rave on.. Yep, and you're one of the "libtards" cheering big GOVERNMENT on. You support both local cops, and big GOVERNMENT. Admit it..
2) Yep, and you're one of the "libtards" cheering big GOVERNMENT on. 3) You support both local cops, and big GOVERNMENT. Admit it.. 1) lie number 1,000000 2) lie number 1,000001 3) I support Rand Paul's idea of reduced government and axing the fed police agencies. I do support as much state, county and local police as needed to arrest as many criminals as needed. There are only 650,000 sworn officers in this country to patrol how many millions? Do the math, chump. That's not big government... It's under staffing. lol I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
So much for the scary "police state", huh?
1 in 5 sounds like overkill. Do we really need 650,000 LEOs for 3,180,000 people? Is it really so bad that 20% of the population is policing the other 80%? This probably does not include military, so the number is probably a bit more like 1 in 4 being LEO or similar in enforcement capabilities. In 2003 the US Army support to combat soldier ratio was 2.5 to 1. Should we keep the fear up until we have 2.5 citizens to 1 officer?!? Maybe it would be better to have a 1 to 1 ratio? I am still sure we would have a crime rate of 3%, there will just be more costumed heroes doing the dirty work... The point being made was that more law enforcement DOES NOT equal less crime. Yes, crime is down in many areas, but the unspoken crime among law enforcement against the public is climbing at a horrific rate. By now, most of us have come in contact with a police officer, some of us multiple times, yet the vast majority of people consider themselves law abiding.
The police rioted for dollars as long as they could, but were afraid to continue once the Oath Keepers showed up and reinforced the locals against the government terrorists. Similar to the McMinn County War in Athens Tennessee, but the corrupt police haven't gone to jail yet... Corrupt McMinn County Sheriff Deputies [Awaiting trial after the Battle of Athens Tennessee] https://patriotpost.us/pages/285 US is over 300 million, so the ration would be closer to 1 in 500.
Strange you should make that claim, seeing you're one of the "libtards" that wants a bigger, stronger govt. Yep, and you're one of the "libtards" cheering big GOVERNMENT on. You support both local cops, and big GOVERNMENT. Admit it. Bullshit... You support every post misterwhite makes lauding majority rule big govt. You're the chump, and you just admitted it. Thanks..
Thank you... you beat me to it. Only Deckard thinks a 1:500 ratio could overtake an armed population I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Exactly... it was the point I was trying to drill into his pointy head. Deckard likes it both ways. He'll tell you in one breath that the cops will toss everyone in death camps... and the next breath, they are lazier than a coonhound. He'll sell his soul to sell his agenda. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
One cop for every 500 Deckards. Sound fair? lol I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
A rookie police officer pulled a biker over for speeding and had the following exchange: • Officer: May I see your driver's license? • Biker: I don't have one. I had it suspended when I got my 5th DUI. • Officer: May I see the owner's card for this vehicle? • Biker: It's not my bike. I stole it. • Officer: The motorcycle is stolen? • Biker: That's right. But come to think of it, I think I saw the owner's card in the tool bag when I was putting my gun in there. Officer: There's a gun in the tool bag? • Biker: Yes sir. That's where I put it after I shot and killed the dude who owns this bike and stuffed his dope in the saddle bags. • Officer: There's drugs in the saddle bags too?!?!? • Biker: Yes, sir. Hearing this, the rookie immediately called his captain. The biker was quickly surrounded by police, and the captain approached the biker to handle the tense situation: • Captain: Sir, can I see your license? • Biker: Sure. Here it is. It was valid. • Captain: Who's motorcycle is this? • Biker: It's mine, officer. Here's the registration. • Captain: Could you slowly open your tool bag so I can see if there's a gun in it? • Biker: Yes, sir, but there's no gun in it. Sure enough, there was nothing in the tool bag. • Captain: Would you mind opening your saddle bags? I was told you said there's drugs in them. • Biker: No problem. The saddle bags were opened; no drugs. • Captain: I don't understand it. The officer who stopped you said you told him you didn't have a license, stole this motorcycle, had a gun in the tool bag, and that there were drugs in the saddle bags. • Biker: Yeah, I'll bet he told you I was speeding, too. "The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8
I stand corrected. Not sure how I missed three zeros... I am usually quite thorough with my numbers. Thank you for the observation. I hopped over to Wikipedia for some quick and dirty numbers, finding that there were over 929,000 sworn officers that had arrest capability in the US in 2008, making the ratio more like 1 officer to every 341 citizens. It would be 1 to every 342 citizens, but everyone knows that no one "enforces the law" for law enforcement! 929,001* - by the numbers: 765,000 sworn full-time state and local officers 120,000 sworn full-time federal officers 44,000 sworn part-time and contract state and local officers *1 GrandIsland (retired) { just poking fun... :D } . Source: Wikipedia (Reference - http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/csllea08.pdf)
That's the best stat posted. lol I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Every supporter of the state and their guardians, the police, cite the necessity of their existence with a list of all the scary things that could happen if those agencies did not exist. Nevermind that those scary things still do happen and are done more often by the state and its servants than by any individual in history, or all of them not serving the state, combined. It is always primal fear of the chaos and uncertainty that exists naturally in our reality which becomes the sticking point for why people continue to believe that police, governments or other bureaucracies MUST exist. That this can be demonstrated to be irrational through examining the horrors of authoritarianism makes no difference to them.
#2. To: tpaine (#1)
Every supporter of the state and their guardians, the police
#3. To: GrandIsland (#2)
The police didn't guard or protect shit...
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#4. To: Deckard (#3)
Grandisland ~ The police didn't guard or protect shit...
#5. To: GrandIsland (#2)
The police don't have the manpower or resources to "guard or protect" anyone, even the libtards that desire bigger and stronger government.
You obviously slept through Ferguson and the Baltimore riots. The police didn't guard or protect shit... and you want the readers here to think the police are capable of controlling armed America.
I laugh at you. If the urban animals of Ferguson didn't finally stop acting like Deckards on their own, the riots would have continued to this day unless YOUR GOVERNMENT stepped in, like the Guard and restored order.
So, here's a little secret you've been too ignorant to learn on your own, if this country ever sees the Orwellian nightmare you fear monger about, it won't be the state, county or local cops... it will be your government and military.
#6. To: tpaine (#5)
1) Strange you should make that claim, seeing you're one of the "libtards" that wants a bigger, stronger govt.
#7. To: Deckard (#3)
"Yeah, that pretty much sums up the sorry state of "law enforcement" these days. They are more like an armed gang going after the weakest victims and acting as revenue collectors for the State."
#8. To: GrandIsland (#6)
There are only 650,000 sworn officers in this country to patrol how many millions? Do the math, chump. That's not big government... It's under staffing. lol
#9. To: GrandIsland, tpaine, Deckard (#2)
If the urban animals of Ferguson didn't finally stop
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#10. To: TheFireBert (#8)
1 in 5 sounds like overkill. Do we really need 650,000 LEOs for 3,180,000 people? Is it really so bad that 20% of the population is policing the other 80%?
#11. To: GrandIsland (#6)
I support Rand Paul's idea of reduced government and axing the fed police agencies.
I do support as much state, county and local police as needed to arrest as many criminals as needed. --- There are only 650,000 sworn officers in this country to patrol how many millions? Do the math, chump. That's not big government... It's under staffing. lol
#12. To: nativist nationalist (#10)
US is over 300 million, so the ration would be closer to 1 in 500.
#13. To: misterwhite (#7)
#14. To: TheFireBert (#8)
#15. To: Deckard (#0)
#16. To: nativist nationalist, GrandIsland (#10)
US is over 300 million, so the ration would be closer to 1 in 500.
#17. To: TheFireBert (#16)
1 GrandIsland (retired) { just poking fun... :D }
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