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Title: Gamechanger: Trump Closer Than Jeb to Clinton In CNN Poll
Source: Breitbart
URL Source: http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern ... an-jeb-to-clinton-in-cnn-poll/
Published: Aug 19, 2015
Author: John Nolte
Post Date: 2015-08-19 18:06:48 by nolu chan
Keywords: None
Views: 374
Comments: 5

Gamechanger: Trump Closer Than Jeb to Clinton In CNN Poll

by John Nolte
Breitbart
19 Aug 2015

A CNN poll taken days before Hillary Clinton’s public meltdown during a Tuesday press conference about her handling of classified data, shows that Donald Trump is within just 6 points of Clinton, 51% – 45%. This is a remarkable +10 point gain for the billionaire businessman, who was down -16 points in July.

In contrast, Republican Establishment favorite Jeb is doing worse against Clinton than Trump. Jeb is down a full -9 points, 52% – 43%. Despite the ongoing problems surrounding her irresponsible handling of national security secrets, unlike Trump, the former-Florida Governor has actually lost ground against Hillary since July when he was just -5 points down, 51% – 46%.

Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker has also made gains against Hillary, and like Trump is down only -6 points, 52% – 46%.

In July Walker was down -9 points, 53% to 44%.

This is the second national poll this week showing Trump within striking distance of Clinton. A Fox News poll released Monday showed Trump down by only -5 points, 47% to 42%.

The news was better for Jeb in that poll. He actually beat Hillary by +2, 44% to 42%. Rubio also beat Clinton by +2, 46% – 44%.

Two major national polls showing Trump gaining on Clinton and close enough to win could shake up the Republican primary race even more than it already is.

As Trump rose to frontrunner status in the field, the hue and cry from the Republican Establishment and their media allies was that he couldn’t win in the general election. If Republican primary voters begin to believe Trump can beat Hillary, or at least has as good of a chance as any other Republican of beating her, who knows how many more primary voters could jump to his camp.

The Republican Establishment has just lost a major talking point against Trump. That much is certain. Moreover, both the media and the GOP Establishment have once again proven just how horribly out of touch they are with American voters. All along they have been firm in their belief that Trump couldn’t happen, and all along the voters have proven them wrong.

Regardless of how this all ends, Trump’s candidacy has exposed the Bubble-Dumb Elite for all time.

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#1. To: nolu chan (#0)

It will be Trump v. Biden, and Trump will win.

Then something shocking will happen. He'll actually DO, or very publicly try to do, directly, and fail because of clearly identifiable and blamable opposition, everything he says he will do.

And then he will go after the ones to blame for what fails with blame, with ridicule, and he'll come at those different issues until he gets the Trump Towers of his policies enacted and in place.

He's going to be the embodiment of honestly doing exactly what he campaigned to do, and using all available power to force open locked doors, or break them off their hinges so they cannot be locked.

Lots of moving parts all coming together at key moments - that is large-scale real estate development, and policymaking.

He'll be great at it. And he is going to win.

He'll take a stab at the 14th Amendment anchor baby issue - he'll throw it into court, because if he wins on it it's easy. He won't win that way, so he'll come a bunch of other harder, but effective ways, and he will win.

And everybody who stands up to him will be diminished.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-08-19   18:14:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

He'll take a stab at the 14th Amendment anchor baby issue - he'll throw it into court, because if he wins on it it's easy.

The 14th does not create the anchor baby issue. It constitutionally affirmed the common law that a child born in the U.S. subject to U.S. jurisdiction (without immunity) is a U.S. citizen. The Immigration laws govern the resident eligibility of the immediate relatives of the baby. A frontal attack on the 14th Amdt to change citizenship eligibility would likely lose, requiring an amendment to the plain language of the 14th.

I think he will move to accomplish the goal by getting legislation to make the presence of undocumented persons (illegal entry or overstay of visa) a crime and subject them to detention while awaiting mandatory deportation. He will move to get legislation killing the anchor baby status granting resident status to immediate relatives of the citizen baby. They could fight deportation from detention, or take their baby and go, choosing to keep their family together where they are eligible to live. They can then petition for entrance as they should have done in the first place.

He could try to have congress remove the appellate jurisdiction of the Federal courts to hear deportation cases. (U.S. Const. Art. 3, Sec. 2, Cl. 2) "In all cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, and those in which a state shall be party, the Supreme Court shall have original jurisdiction. In all the other cases before mentioned, the Supreme Court shall have appellate jurisdiction, both as to law and fact, with such exceptions, and under such regulations as the Congress shall make." The due process that is due could be streamlined and the appellants would be arguing while detained.

The illegal alien parents do not qualify for naturalization as eligibility depends on being an alien lawfully present in the country.

The citizenship law at 8 U.S.C. § 1401(a), implementing the constitutional standard of 14A, does not grant legal status to the parents or direct relatives. The baby cannot be deported, but the parents can, and be allowed to take their baby with them. A child petitioning for regular status of the parents must be 21 years old.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1401

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:

(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;

[...]

For the child to petition for a grant of lawful status for illegal alien parents, the child must wait until it is 21 years old.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE-79/pdf/STATUTE-79-Pg911.pdf

79 Stat 911

PUBLIC LAW 89-236—OCT. 3, 1965

Public Law 89-236

AN ACT

To amend the Immigration and nationality Act, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That section 201 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (66 Stat. 175; 8 U.S.C. 1151) Be amended to read as follows:

"Sec. 201, (a) Exclusive of special immigrants defined in section 101(a)(27), and of the immediate relatives of United States citizenS specified in subsection (b) of this section, the number of aliens who may be issued immigrant visits or who may otherwise acquire the status of an alien lawfully admitted to the United States for permanent residence, or who may, pursuant to section 208(a)(7) enter conditionally, (i) shall not in any of the first three quarters of any fiscal year exceed a total of 45,000 and (ii) shall not in any fiscal year exceed a total of 170,000.

"(b) The 'immediate relatives' referred to in subsection (a) of this section shall mean the children, spouses, and parents of a citizen of the United States: Provided, That in the case of parents, such citizen must be at least twenty-one years of age. The immediate relatives specified in this subsection who are otherwise qualified for admission as immigrants shall be admitted as such, without regard to the numerical limitations in this Act.

[snip]

http://law.justia.com/codes/us/2012/title-8/chapter-12/subchapter-ii/part-i/section-1151/

Selection System - 8 U.S.C. § 1151 (2012)

§1151. Worldwide level of immigration

(a) In general

[...]

(b) Aliens not subject to direct numerical limitations

Aliens described in this subsection, who are not subject to the worldwide levels or numerical limitations of subsection (a) of this section, are as follows:

(1)(A) Special immigrants described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of section 1101(a)(27) of this title.

(B) Aliens who are admitted under section 1157 of this title or whose status is adjusted under section 1159 of this title.

(C) Aliens whose status is adjusted to permanent residence under section 1160 or 1255a of this title.

(D) Aliens whose removal is canceled under section 1229b(a) of this title.

(E) Aliens provided permanent resident status under section 1259 of this title.

(2)(A)(i) Immediate relatives.—For purposes of this subsection, the term “immediate relatives” means the children, spouses, and parents of a citizen of the United States, except that, in the case of parents, such citizens shall be at least 21 years of age. In the case of an alien who was the spouse of a citizen of the United States and was not legally separated from the citizen at the time of the citizen's death, the alien (and each child of the alien) shall be considered, for purposes of this subsection, to remain an immediate relative after the date of the citizen's death but only if the spouse files a petition under section 1154(a)(1)(A)(ii) of this title within 2 years after such date and only until the date the spouse remarries. For purposes of this clause, an alien who has filed a petition under clause (iii) or (iv) of section 1154(a)(1)(A) of this title remains an immediate relative in the event that the United States citizen spouse or parent loses United States citizenship on account of the abuse.

(ii) Aliens admitted under section 1181(a) of this title on the basis of a prior issuance of a visa to their accompanying parent who is such an immediate relative.

(B) Aliens born to an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence during a temporary visit abroad.

[...]

Having an "anchor baby" does not create a legal right to parent residency, either under 14A or under statute. It occurs under the policy of prosecutorial discretion. A President Trump could severely affect prosecutorial discretion. DACA (an Executive action) could be made history on day one. The mythical DREAM Act never passed Congress.

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/will-having-us-citizenship-children-prevent-deportation-undocumented-immigrant.html

Will having U.S. citizenship children prevent deportation of undocumented immigrant?

Question:

My husband and I came to the U.S. from Mexico illegally, by crossing the border, and we have been living here for five years. We both work doing housekeeping, gardening, and other temporary jobs. We do not feel ready to start a family right now, but our friends tell us over and over that if we have a baby, it will be a U.S. citizen, and so immigration will not deport us. Is that true?

Answer:

The part about a baby who is born in the U.S. being a U.S. citizen is true. As for the rest of the advice that you’re receiving, it is not quite that simple.

One possibility that your friends might be thinking about is that U.S. citizens can petition for their parents to receive green cards – but only after the citizen child turns 21. (Also, the fact that you entered without inspection could further complicate matters even after those 21 years have passed.) See Nolo’s FAQ, “How soon can the U.S.-born child of an undocumented immigrant petition for the parent?” for details.

Another thing that your friends might have heard of is a U.S. government policy known as “prosecutorial discretion.” The idea is that, because U.S. immigration enforcement authorities (“ICE”) cannot deport everyone, they should concentrate their efforts on high priority cases such as criminals – and drop the cases of people with many ties to the United States, including family. By granting "prosecutorial discretion," they don't give you a green card or anything like it, but they do promise not to deport you for the present.

If you had U.S. citizen children, that would indeed be a tie to the United States that might make you more likely to receive prosecutorial discretion if you were arrested by ICE. But so is your long stay and positive work history. So having children just for this purpose seems like an extreme measure. (Not to mention the fact that ICE is notoriously inconsistent in applying this policy, and sometimes deports people whom you’d think would be left alone under this policy.) For more information on prosecutorial discretion, see “Which Undocumented Persons Are Helped By Prosecutorial Discretion.”

nolu chan  posted on  2015-08-19   19:54:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: nolu chan (#0)

Regardless of how this all ends, Trump’s candidacy has exposed the Bubble-Dumb Elite for all time.

You place too much faith in publick poll numbers that have nothing to do with the the direct election process. Yeah, it is true Trump has a zany coiffure and a knack for publick pazzazz but he (or any potential candidate) isn't elected by the People and hence, poll numbers are meaningless beyond a sense of "mood." POTUS is elected through a magaekal 8 ball process called the "electoral college."

The election of the President and the Vice President of the United States is an indirect vote in which citizens cast ballots for a slate of members of the U.S. Electoral College; these electors in turn directly elect the President and Vice President.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-08-19   21:25:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: buckeroo (#3)

You place too much faith in publick poll numbers that have nothing to do with the the direct election process. Yeah, it is true Trump has a zany coiffure and a knack for publick pazzazz but he (or any potential candidate) isn't elected by the People and hence, poll numbers are meaningless beyond a sense of "mood." POTUS is elected through a magaekal 8 ball process called the "electoral college."

My magick 8-ball says nobody will win the nomination without popular votes. Currently we are watching the zany nominating/primary process. The same may be said for the general election, but the one with the most popular votes may not win.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-08-19   21:37:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: buckeroo (#3)

Candidates are sort-of elected by the people. The electors are chosen by state on a popular vote basis.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-08-19   22:28:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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