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Title: Police May Search Even If Arrest Is Invalid
Source: AP
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080423 ... t=Ao3i9tdcyQSFSrgmzj9PkFGs0NUE
Published: Apr 23, 2008
Author: PETE YOST
Post Date: 2008-04-23 21:37:00 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 720
Comments: 5

The Supreme Court affirmed Wednesday that police have the power to conduct searches and seize evidence, even when done during an arrest that turns out to have violated state law.

The unanimous decision comes in a case from Portsmouth, Va., where city detectives seized crack cocaine from a motorist after arresting him for a traffic ticket offense.

David Lee Moore was pulled over for driving on a suspended license. The violation is a minor crime in Virginia and calls for police to issue a court summons and let the driver go.

Instead, city detectives arrested Moore and prosecutors say that drugs taken from him in a subsequent search can be used against him as evidence.

"We reaffirm against a novel challenge what we have signaled for half a century," Justice Antonin Scalia wrote.

Scalia said that when officers have probable cause to believe a person has committed a crime in their presence, the Fourth Amendment permits them to make an arrest and to search the suspect in order to safeguard evidence and ensure their own safety.

Moore was convicted on a drug charge and sentenced to 3 1/2 years in prison.

The Virginia Supreme Court ruled that police should have released Moore and could not lawfully conduct a search.

State law, said the Virginia Supreme Court, restricted officers to issuing a ticket in exchange for a promise to appear later in court. Virginia courts dismissed the indictment against Moore.

Moore argued that the Fourth Amendment permits a search only following a lawful state arrest.

In a concurring opinion, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said she finds more support for Moore's position in previous court cases than the rest of the court does. But she said she agrees that the arrest and search of Moore was constitutional, even though it violated Virginia law.

The Bush administration and attorneys general from 18 states lined up in support of Virginia prosecutors.

The federal government said Moore's case had the potential to greatly increase the class of unconstitutional arrests, resulting in evidence seized during searches being excluded with increasing frequency.

Looking to state laws to provide the basis for searches would introduce uncertainty into the legal system, the 18 states said in court papers.


Poster Comment:

The Supreme court is illegitimate. They are without authority to decide this matter.

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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The Supreme court is illegitimate. They are without authority to decide this matter.

They have clearly violated the Constitution, and are part of a gov't that is no longer legitimate, or worth of obedience by the citizens of this once great nation.

"Laws are like spiderwebs; they hold the weak and delicate who are caught in their meshes, but are torn apart by the rich and powerful."-Anacharsis.

barkentine  posted on  2008-04-23   21:39:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: barkentine (#1)

But she said she agrees that the arrest and search of Moore was constitutional, even though it violated Virginia law.

lol

A K A Stone  posted on  2008-04-23   21:40:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: A K A Stone (#2)

But she said she agrees

The word in bold is part of the reason the gov't that tyrannically rules over us is illegitimate.

'Shes'' have no legitiimate place in authority.

"Laws are like spiderwebs; they hold the weak and delicate who are caught in their meshes, but are torn apart by the rich and powerful."-Anacharsis.

barkentine  posted on  2008-04-23   21:44:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: barkentine (#3)

'Shes'' have no legitiimate place in authority.

I kind of agree with that. I don't think God made man to be ruled by women.

But women do have places of authroity. For example. They have authority over their children.

A K A Stone  posted on  2008-04-23   21:47:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The unanimous decision comes in a case from Portsmouth, Va., where city detectives seized crack cocaine from a motorist after arresting him for a traffic ticket offense.

That's NOT exactly what happened as descibed in his appeal in Virginia.

I would hate to think that the 'Rubes' who read this stuff took that to be what happened ... so here is what actually transpired:

This appeal implicates Code § 19.2-74(A)(1). In pertinent part, this Code section provides that when a police officer detains a person for a Class 1 misdemeanor, the officer "shall . . . issue a summons . . . to appear at a time and place to be specified in such summons," and "[u]pon the giving by such person of his written promise to appear at such time and place,the officer shall forthwith release him from custody."

The Code section also contains several exceptions allowing a warrantless arrest pursuant to Code § 19.2-82 "if any such person shall fail or refuse to discontinue the unlawful act" or "if any person is believed by the arresting officer to be likely to disregard asummons . . . or . . . cause harm to himself or to any other person."

On February 20, 2003, two City of Portsmouth detectives, responding to a radio message that a motorist was operating a motor vehicle on a suspended license, stopped a vehicle being driven by the defendant, David Lee Moore. The officers ascertained that Moore was in fact operating on a suspended license.

Although the offense is a Class 1 misdemeanor, Code § 46.2-301(C), the officers did not issue Moore a summons but arrested him, handcuffed him, and placed him in a police vehicle. They gave him the Miranda1 warnings and secured his signature on a consent to search his room at the hotel where he was staying. They then took him to the hotel room. Because of a "miscommunication" between the officers, they did not search Moore at the time he was arrested.

Upon reaching his hotel room, they searched his person and found approximately 16 grams of crack cocaine in his jacket pocket and $516.00 in cash in his pants pocket. He admitted the cocaine was his.

Moore was indicted for possession of cocaine with intent to distribute. Code § 18.2-248. He then moved to suppress all the evidence obtained in the search of his person,2 asserting that the seizure of the evidence violated the provisions of the Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth Amendments to the Constitution of the United States.

The trial court denied the motion to suppress. In a bench trial, the court convicted Moore of possession with intent todistribute cocaine and sentenced him to serve five years in the penitentiary, with one year and six months suspended.

_Jim  posted on  2008-04-23   23:10:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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