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Title: After Tiff With Megyn Kelly, Trump Engages In War With Fox's Frank Luntz
Source: TPM
URL Source: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/donald-trump-frank-luntz-fox
Published: Aug 18, 2015
Author: Caitlin MacNeal
Post Date: 2015-08-18 13:24:35 by nolu chan
Keywords: None
Views: 4392
Comments: 26

After Tiff With Megyn Kelly, Trump Engages In War With Fox's Frank Luntz

By Caitlin MacNeal
TPM
Published August 18, 2015, 11:50 AM EDT

Fresh off his confrontation with Fox News' Megyn Kelly, Donald Trump is now lashing out at Fox News pollster Frank Luntz over the focus group following the first Republican presidential debate.

The participants in Luntz's focus group bashed the real estate mogul's performance and called Trump "mean" and "bombastic." Trump was quick to criticize the focus group, calling Luntz a "clown" and a "low class slob" on Twitter.

Before the debate, Luntz allegedly told attendees at a South Carolina fundraiser that Trump is "addicted" to attention and could hurt the Republican Party, according to Politico.

Luntz would not address the comments he made in South Carolina with Politico on Monday. But he said that Trump taps into the fears of Republican voters without providing solutions. He told Politico that Trump is "delivering a big ‘F you’ to the elites in America."

"And that resonates on both sides,” Luntz said. “But ‘F you’ doesn’t solve anything. ‘F you’ doesn’t make life any better. ‘F you’ makes you feel good, but it doesn’t get you where you need to go. ‘F you’ doesn’t make America strong. ‘F you’ doesn’t solve anything.

Trump then responded to Luntz and accused the pollster of targeting the real estate mogul since he was not hired by Trump as a consultant, according to Politico.

"I caught him cold," Trump told Politico on Monday. "And frankly, if I was [Fox News President] Roger Ailes, I’d fire that guy so fast for what he did that his head would spin."

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#3. To: nolu chan (#0)

Frank Luntz . . . focus group

The plethora of "polls" and "focus groups" just underscores the fact that genuine, unvarnished leaders are non-existent in the USA today.

Real leaders LEAD - while political hacks and other political vermin rely on polls and focus groups.

Can anyone imagine leaders of the past like Washington, Jefferson, Churchill or Patton relying on focus groups? Imagine the world of the present if they did?

While I'm not a subscriber to the idea (to the extent that it might be out there) that Donald Trump is the actual solution to the nation's ills, I say that neither is Hilliary Xlinton, the Jebster, or the gop.

And Trump - at this point in history - is performing a very needed function.

John Hancock's large signature on the Declaration of Independence was a big "F-you" to the power and the establishment of his time. He did it without taking polls and relying on focus groups. And he risked everything - including his life - in making it.

Likewise, Trump's big "F-you" to the establishment is a much needed poke in the eye to the Ruling Party.

And it has not been focus group tested, either.

Rufus T Firefly  posted on  2015-08-18   13:59:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Rufus T Firefly (#3) (Edited)

Can anyone imagine leaders of the past like Washington, Jefferson, Churchill or Patton relying on focus groups? Imagine the world of the present if they did?

A salient point...that could and should be made by Trump to malign his cowardly opponents.

The leaders of the past used the consensus of their peers as "focus groups"; Not hand-picked patsies that politically create a fake consensus.

And Trump - at this point in history - is performing a very needed function.

Agree.

John Hancock's large signature on the Declaration of Independence was a big "F-you" to the power and the establishment of his time. He did it without taking polls and relying on focus groups. And he risked everything - including his life - in making it.

Likewise, Trump's big "F-you" to the establishment is a much needed poke in the eye to the Ruling Party.

The Ruling Party GOPe need more than a poke in the eye. But then Trump isn't done yet.

John Hancock -- a guy with EVERYTHING to lose -- put a bullseye on himself with his F-U. As did the rest of the signers of the DoI. Trump is indeed doing the same. Even if many claim he's "new" on several of his political positions. Hey -- better late than never.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-18   14:06:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Liberator (#4)

The Ruling Party GOPe need more than a poke in the eye.

The Roves, McConnells, McClowns and Boehners have more venom and vitriol for the "tea party" (and now Trump) than they do for the party they're supposedly "opposed" to - or the tyrant at the head of it.

If that isn't revealing, I don't know what is.

Rufus T Firefly  posted on  2015-08-18   14:16:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Rufus T Firefly (#6)

Excellent point and I plead guilty of the same thing on occasions.

I consider it futile to rant and rave and criticize Obama and Hillary, et. al. I did it for years with Slick Willie and it got me nowhere.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-08-18   14:24:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Fred Mertz (#8)

I consider it futile to rant and rave and criticize Obama and Hillary, et. al. I did it for years with Slick Willie and it got me nowhere.

Yeah, it's pointless to criticize a skunk (i.e. Hilliary or the dems) for being a skunk. For doing what a skunk does.

I may be farther along in my cynicism about the political system than you, however.

Since (IMO) it makes no difference anyway, I say "Bring on Trump"

"Bread and circuses" is fun.

Rufus T Firefly  posted on  2015-08-18   14:32:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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