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Title: After Tiff With Megyn Kelly, Trump Engages In War With Fox's Frank Luntz
Source: TPM
URL Source: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/donald-trump-frank-luntz-fox
Published: Aug 18, 2015
Author: Caitlin MacNeal
Post Date: 2015-08-18 13:24:35 by nolu chan
Keywords: None
Views: 4428
Comments: 26

After Tiff With Megyn Kelly, Trump Engages In War With Fox's Frank Luntz

By Caitlin MacNeal
TPM
Published August 18, 2015, 11:50 AM EDT

Fresh off his confrontation with Fox News' Megyn Kelly, Donald Trump is now lashing out at Fox News pollster Frank Luntz over the focus group following the first Republican presidential debate.

The participants in Luntz's focus group bashed the real estate mogul's performance and called Trump "mean" and "bombastic." Trump was quick to criticize the focus group, calling Luntz a "clown" and a "low class slob" on Twitter.

Before the debate, Luntz allegedly told attendees at a South Carolina fundraiser that Trump is "addicted" to attention and could hurt the Republican Party, according to Politico.

Luntz would not address the comments he made in South Carolina with Politico on Monday. But he said that Trump taps into the fears of Republican voters without providing solutions. He told Politico that Trump is "delivering a big ‘F you’ to the elites in America."

"And that resonates on both sides,” Luntz said. “But ‘F you’ doesn’t solve anything. ‘F you’ doesn’t make life any better. ‘F you’ makes you feel good, but it doesn’t get you where you need to go. ‘F you’ doesn’t make America strong. ‘F you’ doesn’t solve anything.

Trump then responded to Luntz and accused the pollster of targeting the real estate mogul since he was not hired by Trump as a consultant, according to Politico.

"I caught him cold," Trump told Politico on Monday. "And frankly, if I was [Fox News President] Roger Ailes, I’d fire that guy so fast for what he did that his head would spin."

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#3. To: nolu chan (#0)

Frank Luntz . . . focus group

The plethora of "polls" and "focus groups" just underscores the fact that genuine, unvarnished leaders are non-existent in the USA today.

Real leaders LEAD - while political hacks and other political vermin rely on polls and focus groups.

Can anyone imagine leaders of the past like Washington, Jefferson, Churchill or Patton relying on focus groups? Imagine the world of the present if they did?

While I'm not a subscriber to the idea (to the extent that it might be out there) that Donald Trump is the actual solution to the nation's ills, I say that neither is Hilliary Xlinton, the Jebster, or the gop.

And Trump - at this point in history - is performing a very needed function.

John Hancock's large signature on the Declaration of Independence was a big "F-you" to the power and the establishment of his time. He did it without taking polls and relying on focus groups. And he risked everything - including his life - in making it.

Likewise, Trump's big "F-you" to the establishment is a much needed poke in the eye to the Ruling Party.

And it has not been focus group tested, either.

Rufus T Firefly  posted on  2015-08-18   13:59:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Rufus T Firefly (#3)

Can anyone imagine leaders of the past like Washington, Jefferson, Churchill or Patton relying on focus groups?

I don't know how the rest would respond,but just thinking of Patton being exposed to to a focus group is enough to start me giggling.

I predict that things wouldn't have worked out well if that had ever happened.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-18   15:26:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: sneakypete (#15)

. . . just thinking of Patton being exposed to to a focus group is enough to start me giggling.

Just as an aside, 'pete:

One of my favorite war movies/biopics off all time is "Patton" - but I'm not a Patton expert so I've always wondered how accurate a portrayal it was.

We like to think that WWII was "pre" political correctness (at least to the degree it exists today).

But if the movie is accurate, Patton's slapping of the soldier (and the political firestorm that followed) almost got him kicked out of the war.

Rufus T Firefly  posted on  2015-08-18   16:17:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Rufus T Firefly (#19)

But if the movie is accurate, Patton's slapping of the soldier (and the political firestorm that followed) almost got him kicked out of the war.

If anything it was downplayed.

I was friends with one of my father's childhood friends,and literally knew him my entire life,but didn't know he had fought in WW-2 until the early 1980's when I went up to his house to help him move some stuff around. There,under glass on his kitchen table were a bunch of photos of him standing on or around his tank. He was drafted into the army and was in the invasion of North Africa as a PFC tank driver. He won a SS and a battlefield promotion to 1st Lt,and fought with Patton all the way to the approach to Berlin.

The only time I ever saw him mad was when I once said something positive about Patton. He hated Patton so much the blood would drain from his face when you mentioned Patton's name.

Patton was a glory hound chasing more glory,and didn't care who had to die to provide it,even if it was him.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-18   16:33:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: sneakypete (#20)

Patton was a glory hound

You know though, that's probably true of all the leaders mentioned earlier (Washington, Jefferson and Churchill, along with Patton).

And it's certainly true of Trump. Well, maybe not being a "glory hound" per se.

But he certainly craves attention.

I wonder if it would be an accurate statement to say "most leaders are glory hounds, but not all glory hounds are leaders."

Rufus T Firefly  posted on  2015-08-18   16:49:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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