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Title: 'We are going to keep the families together, but they have to go': Trump vows to deport all undocumented immigrants and rescind any protections put in place by Obama
Source: Daily Mail Online
URL Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art ... d-protections-place-Obama.html
Published: Aug 16, 2015
Author: Wills Robinson and Sophie Jane Evans and
Post Date: 2015-08-16 07:36:59 by cranky
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  • Business mogul made the divisive comments on an NBC interview
  • Told Meet the Press host Chuck Todd all illegal immigrants 'have to go'
  • Would also remove protection of children whose parents arrived illegally
  • On Saturday he was mobbed as he arrived at the Iowa state fair

Donald Trump has vowed to deport every single one of the country's illegal immigrants and rescind any executive orders Barack Obama put in place to protect them.

'We're going to keep the families together, but they have to go,' Trump told NBC's Meet the Press in an interview that is set to air on Sunday morning.

Asked by host Chuck Todd about illegal immigrants who might have nowhere else to go, Trump said: 'We will work with them.

'They have to go ... we either have a country, or we don't have a country,' he added.

Trump, 69, also said in the interview he would need to rescind Obama's executive orders on immigration, including one that protects from deportation the children of parents who came to the country illegally.

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Center of attention: Donald Trump has vowed to deport every single one of the country's illegal immigrants in his latest interview. He was mobbed at Iowa State Fair on Saturday afternoon (pictured) as he staged a grandiose arrival in his $7million helicopter and launched an all-out war on his presidential rivals

Center of attention: Donald Trump has vowed to deport every single one of the country's illegal immigrants in his latest interview. He was mobbed at Iowa State Fair on Saturday afternoon (pictured) as he staged a grandiose arrival in his $7million helicopter and launched an all-out war on his presidential rivals

Divisive: Trump told NBC's Meet the Press: 'We're going to keep the families together, but they have to go'

Divisive: Trump told NBC's Meet the Press: 'We're going to keep the families together, but they have to go'

Frontrunner: Shortly after 1pm, the Republican frontrunner arrived in his $7million Sikorsky S-76, landing in a parking lot near to the fairgrounds, which he had hired out so he could give free helicopter rides to children

Frontrunner: Shortly after 1pm, the Republican frontrunner arrived in his $7million Sikorsky S-76, landing in a parking lot near to the fairgrounds, which he had hired out so he could give free helicopter rides to children

Speech: He then held a press event, during which he called Hillary Clinton the 'worst Secretary of State'ever and accused Jeb Bush of being a 'puppet to his donors'. Above, Trump is surrounded by kids at his speech

Waving: 'Voters like me, they know I'm doing to do the job,' he said, adding that he would 'bring back jobs', 'take care of people' and 'be better to women'. Above, Trump is flanked by security as he walks through the fair

Waving: 'Voters like me, they know I'm doing to do the job,' he said, adding that he would 'bring back jobs', 'take care of people' and 'be better to women'. Above, Trump is flanked by security as he walks through the fair

No-show: Hundreds of people turned up to see Trump at Iowa State Fair Butter Cow - but he was a no-show

No-show: Hundreds of people turned up to see Trump at Iowa State Fair Butter Cow - but he was a no-show

A grand entrance: Trump's helicopter is pictured past an American flag as the billionaire arrives at the fair

A grand entrance: Trump's helicopter is pictured past an American flag as the billionaire arrives at the fair

Impressive: Trump's 52-foot executive chopper - which seats 12 people including the pilot - reportedly flew at an altitude of 2,400 feet and took three refueling stops before arriving at Des Moines Airport (pictured)

Impressive: Trump's 52-foot executive chopper - which seats 12 people including the pilot - reportedly flew at an altitude of 2,400 feet and took three refueling stops before arriving at Des Moines Airport (pictured)

The real estate mogul and television personality, who has rocketed to the top of opinion polls among the 17 Republican contenders, has aroused controversy with his provocative comments on illegal immigration, including describing some undocumented migrants from Mexico as criminals and rapists.

On Saturday he was mobbed at Iowa State Fair on Saturday afternoon as he staged a grandiose entrance in his $7million helicopter and launched an all-out war on his 2016 presidential rivals.

Shortly after 1pm, the GOP frontrunner arrived in his $7million Sikorsky S-76, landing in a parking lot near to the fairgrounds, which he had hired out so he could give free helicopter rides to children.

He then held a press event, during which he called Hillary Clinton the 'worst Secretary of State' in U.S. history, accused Jeb Bush of being a 'puppet to his donors' and asked: 'Who likes Obama?'

Donning one of his now-famous 'Make America Great Again!'™ caps, and surrounded by children, Trump declared 'nobody' would meet the high standards that he would set if he was president.

'Voters like me, they know I'm doing to do the job,' he said, adding that he would 'bring back jobs', 'take care of people', tackle illegal immigration and 'be better to women' - unlike other candidates.

Specifically targeting former Florida Governor Bush, the billionaire real-estate mogul said: 'Jeb Bush is a puppet to his donors. There's no question about it. He's got lobbyists... I know them.'

Trump admitted that he himself was once a 'puppet', saying: 'I was one of the greats.'

But he said that he was 'now on the different side'. 'I know how the system works better than anybody,' he told reporters. 'Believe me, nobody played the game better than I did.'

Trump's next target was Clinton, who was visiting the annual fair in Des Moines on Saturday.

He declared she was the 'single worst Secretary of State in the history of the country' during her time in office from 2009 to 2013. 'The world collapsed around us,' he said, gesturing with his hands.

But then he added that current Secretary of State John Kerry 'might be worse'.

'He's making a deal with Iran that is so bad and so dangerous and so incompetent and stupid that it will have grave consequences,' Trump said, adding that 'forceful action' was needed against Iran.

Trump told reporters that his simple aim was 'to make the country great' - but said that he needed to make America rich first. I want to 'make the country rich again, and then make it great,' he said.

And strikingly, he claimed that he has not made any mistakes in his presidential campaign so far.

'I don't think I've made any mistakes,' he said, noting that he is leading in every election poll.

Shouting over the crowds: Trump admitted that he himself was once a 'puppet', saying: 'I was one of the greats.' But he said he was 'now on the different side'. Above, Trump shouts over the noise of the crowds

Shouting over the crowds: Trump admitted that he himself was once a 'puppet', saying: 'I was one of the greats.' But he said he was 'now on the different side'. Above, Trump shouts over the noise of the crowds

Messy work: Trump eats a pork chop at the Iowa State Fair during his campaign stop in Des Moines, Iowa

Messy work: Trump eats a pork chop at the Iowa State Fair during his campaign stop in Des Moines, Iowa

Shaking hands: Trump shakes the hand of an attendee as he rides in a golf cart at the Iowa fair on Saturday

Shaking hands: Trump shakes the hand of an attendee as he rides in a golf cart at the Iowa fair on Saturday

Pleasing supporters: Trump (pictured greeing a fairgoer) declared current Secretary of State John Kerry's deal with Iran 'is so bad and so dangerous and so incompetent and stupid it will have grave consequences'

Pleasing supporters: Trump (pictured greeing a fairgoer) declared current Secretary of State John Kerry's deal with Iran 'is so bad and so dangerous and so incompetent and stupid it will have grave consequences'

Not so happy: Some Trump supporters who had turned up to the Butter Cow told reporters that they would no longer be voting for the billionaire after he failed to show up at the attraction - despite saying he would do so

Not so happy: Some Trump supporters who had turned up to the Butter Cow told reporters that they would no longer be voting for the billionaire after he failed to show up at the attraction - despite saying he would do so

He referenced his statements on illegal immigrants from Mexico, his questioning of whether Senator John McCain is a war hero, and his conversation with Fox's CEO over controversial remarks he made about host Megyn Kelly. But he said in each controversy, he felt he had made no mistakes.

'Has it worked out badly?' he asked reporters smugly, as supporters chanted his surname.

During the Saturday press conference, Trump also spoke about his strict approach toward illegal immigration, saying he was going to build a wall that 'nobody' would be able to illegally get through.

'Nobody's going through my wall,' he said as he stood in front of his 'Trump'-branded helicopter.

'It's going to be strong, it's going to be solid, it's going to be policed.'

The billionaire also said that President Barack Obama was disliked across the world - something that he would not be. 'Who likes Obama? I'm talking about worldwide,' he asked reporters.

Trump was later driven around the fair in a golf cart. Thousands of people were seen swarming around the cart, trying to exchange words with Trump, shake his hand and take selfies with him.

It appeared that the Republican frontrunner had at least three times more supporters following him than other presidential candidates at the event, including Clinton and Senator Bernie Sanders.

Ahead in the race: Trump speaks to reporters at his press event at Iowa State Fair in Des Moines on Saturday

Ahead in the race: Trump speaks to reporters at his press event at Iowa State Fair in Des Moines on Saturday

Speech: Trump appeared to have three times more supporters at the Iowa State Fair than other candidates

Speech: Trump appeared to have three times more supporters at the Iowa State Fair than other candidates

The billionaire business mogul flashes V-signs
He pulls a face as he walks through the fair

Jolly: The billionaire business mogul flashes V-signs (left) and pulls a face (right) as he walks through the fair

Sunny weather: Trump, who was surrounded by security throughout his campaign stop, waves to his fans

Sunny weather: Trump, who was surrounded by security throughout his campaign stop, waves to his fans

Not camera shy: The candidate (pictured taking a selfie with a dan) claimed he has not made any mistakes in his campaign so far. 'I don't think I've made any mistakes,' he said, noting that he is leading in every poll

Not camera shy: The candidate (pictured taking a selfie with a dan) claimed he has not made any mistakes in his campaign so far. 'I don't think I've made any mistakes,' he said, noting that he is leading in every poll

However, not all fans were in the best of spirits. Trump failed to show up at the fair's Butter Cow - which he had previously said he would be visiting - leaving hundreds of people disappointed.

CBS reporter Kevin Barry noted that the Butter Cow had the 'biggest crowd' it had ever seen - but that some supporters told him they would no longer be voting for Trump following his no-show.

Earlier in the day, Trump had touched down at Des Moines International Airport in his private Boeing 757 jet, where he swapped the plane for his executive helicopter to fly to the fair.

The politician was told last month he could not set up his Sikorsky at the fair, so he hired a nearby parking lot instead. From there, he will give rides to children at his own risk and expense.

Indeed, as soon as he finished his press event on Saturday afternoon, Trump headed to the aircraft with some youngsters, who will be able to see what cornfields look like from 5,000 feet in the sky.

His young guests were able to sink into cream-colored Italian-leather seating, sip Trump-brand ice water and secure themselves with 18-karat gold-plated seat-belt buckles.

Trump's 52-foot executive chopper - which seats 12 people comfortably including the pilot - reportedly flew at an altitude of 2,400 feet and took three refueling stops as it headed from New York to Des Moines airport.

Big turnout: Children gather next to the $7million executive helicopter, which they later got free rides on

Big turnout: Children gather next to the $7million executive helicopter, which they later got free rides on

ABC's Martha Raddat (seen in pink) was one of the first - and oldest - people to ride the aircraft

ABC's Martha Raddat (seen in pink) was one of the first - and oldest - people to ride the aircraft

In good spirits: Trumpggreets fairgoers while campaigning at the Iowa State Fair in Des Moines on Saturday

In good spirits: Trumpggreets fairgoers while campaigning at the Iowa State Fair in Des Moines on Saturday

Trump targeted Clinton (pictured in Iowa on Saturday), saying she was the 'single worst Secretary of State in the history of the country'.
He also hit out at Bush (pictured eating a pork chop at the fair on Friday)

Rivals: Trump targeted Clinton (seen, left, in Iowa on Saturday), saying she was the 'single worst Secretary of State in the history of the country', and hit out at Bush (right, eating a pork chop at the fair on Friday)

On Saturday morning, Trump tweeted that he was en route to Des Moines in his Boeing 757 jet. He will then swap the plane for his helicopter to fly to the fair.

He told his 3.7million followers: 'In the plane heading to Iowa State Fair. Will be great fun. Hopefully giving helicopter rides to some of the kids.'

When Trump finally arrived at the fair via helicopter, his aircraft repeatedly flew in circles overhead - at precisely the same time as Clinton was walking through the fair, greeting her supporters.

The noise caused many people to look up.

But when a reporter asked Clinton if she had noticed Trump's helicopter, she said she had not.

The helicopter later soared over Sanders as he was speaking to his supporters.

During his speech, Sanders joked about his presidential opponent. 'Well, there's Donald Trump, what can we do?' he asked, causing his supporters to 'boo' Trump and chant 'Sanders'.

Sanders added:'I apologize, we left the helicopter at home. It's in the garage, forgot to bring it!'

Clinton, meanwhile, insisted in her speech that prospective voters - at least the ones coming to her campaign stops - don't care about her email scandal.

'We'll see how this all plays out, but it's not anything that people talk to me about around the country,' she told a mass of reporters huddled outside a barn at fair.

As soon as he finished his press event on Saturday afternoon, Trump led some children to his helicopter

As soon as he finished his press event on Saturday afternoon, Trump led some children to his helicopter

It's in sight! The luxury aircraft flies over the Pork Chop on a Stick stand as Trump arrives at the annual fair

It's in sight! The luxury aircraft flies over the Pork Chop on a Stick stand as Trump arrives at the annual fair

Opponent: Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton is pictured greeting Des Moines businessman Bill Knapp, right, as she visitsthe Iowa State Fair in Des Moines on Saturday - shortly before Trump arrived

Opponent: Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton is pictured greeting Des Moines businessman Bill Knapp, right, as she visitsthe Iowa State Fair in Des Moines on Saturday - shortly before Trump arrived

Embrace: The former Secretary of State is seen hugging Knapp, her friend, as supporters around her beam

Embrace: The former Secretary of State is seen hugging Knapp, her friend, as supporters around her beam

Continuing she said questions about her emails and server are 'never raised in my town halls'. 'It is never raised in my other meetings with people,' she told reporters.

Rather, Clinton said she believes attendees of her events are interested in learning about what she would do to boost the economy, lower the cost of college and student debt, ensure workplace equality for women, as well as persons with disabilities 'and so much more.'

'And that's what I talk about on the campaign trail,' she said.

The Iowa State Fair, which began on Thursday, will see millions of people coverage on the state fairgrounds over 11 days for livestock shows, country music, fried Oreos and carnival rides.

During his interview with DailyMail.com two weeks ago, Trump revealed this year's main attraction at the fair would be his Sikorsky, which appeared in the opening credits of Celebrity Apprentice.

'We're going to fly it out to Iowa and I'm going to have it there,' he said from his Manhattan office.

Trump initially referred to the state fair as 'The World's Fair.'

'I look forward to that. I went there once years ago,' he said. 'It was so great. So many people.'

And so many Republican primary voters. With children.

'I'm going to try giving kids lifts in the helicopter,' the billionaire said near the end of a half-hour interview that ranged in topics from high finance to Hillary Clinton's 'low class'.

Thrill ride: Trump was told last month he could not set up his Sikorsky(pictured with him in June) at the fair

Thrill ride: Trump was told last month he could not set up his Sikorsky(pictured with him in June) at the fair

Luxurious: Children who made it on board the Trump Whirlybird were able to sink into leather seats (pictured) and drink bottled water with The Donald's face on the label

Luxurious: Children who made it on board the Trump Whirlybird were able to sink into leather seats (pictured) and drink bottled water with The Donald's face on the label

En-route: On Saturday morning, Trump, who is the Republican frontrunner, tweeted his 3.7million followers: 'In the plane heading to Iowa State Fair. Will be great fun. Hopefully giving helicopter rides to some of the kids'

En-route: On Saturday morning, Trump, who is the Republican frontrunner, tweeted his 3.7million followers: 'In the plane heading to Iowa State Fair. Will be great fun. Hopefully giving helicopter rides to some of the kids'

'You know, young kids. Yeah!,' he exclaimed, sounding like a kid who had just built his first pinewood derby car. 'If I can do it – if I'm allowed to do it!'

Trump also boasted that he has three helicopters.

'Did you know that?' he said. 'I have one at Turnberry, one at Doral, and one in New York City.'

The white-and-red Turnberry chopper took Trump to his golf course in Scotland on July 30, which was hosting the Women's British Open golf tourney that weekend.

It is his black-and-red New York chopper that has made the two-hop, 1,000-mile trip to Iowa.

Trump described how he would first take his 757 and then meet up with his crew in the Hawkeye State. 'I think you have to do two stops,' he said. 'You know, it's like a 10-hour flight to go out.'

Aside from the obvious media value of such a spectacle – 'It'll be magnificent,' Trump mused (the unlikeliest of Republican front-runners grinned broadly when he imagined the scene near Des Moines). 'We're asking approval,' he said, nearly hopping out of his chair. 'We're really doing it!'

He added: 'I would love to take some of the young kids – you know, put 10 kids into the helicopter and let 'em go up and down.'

Animated: Clinton raises her eyebrows as she waves to fairgoers while campaigning at the Iowa State Fair

Animated: Clinton raises her eyebrows as she waves to fairgoers while campaigning at the Iowa State Fair

Another rival: Senator Bernie Sanders appeared to be soaked in water as he walked through fairgrounds

Another rival: Senator Bernie Sanders appeared to be soaked in water as he walked through fairgrounds

Wisecrack: Sanders told crowds: 'Well, there's Donald Trump, what can we do?' His supporters then booed Trump , while Sanders added:'I apologize, we left the helicopter at home. It's in the garage, forgot to bring it'

Wisecrack: Sanders told crowds: 'Well, there's Donald Trump, what can we do?' His supporters then booed Trump , while Sanders added:'I apologize, we left the helicopter at home. It's in the garage, forgot to bring it'

A bit too hot? Sanders wipes sweat from his forehead during an interview at Iowa State Fair on Saturday

A bit too hot? Sanders wipes sweat from his forehead during an interview at Iowa State Fair on Saturday

Republican presidential candidate, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, is seen speaking at the fair on Friday

Republican presidential candidate, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, is seen speaking at the fair on Friday

Trumps New York chopper was outfitted and decorated by designer Eric Roth at a cost rumored to be $750,000 – after the purchase of the aircraft itself.

Roth also designed the interior of Trump's 757, using the same materials – including what pilot John Dunkin said in May was enough gold to plate the outside of a Greyhound bus.

The Donald said of the whole concept: 'It's cool. Isn't it cool?'

Following Trump's interview, the Iowa State Fair declared that the billionaire had not asked if he could set up his helicopter on fairgrounds - and would not be granted permission to do so.

'He is welcome to land his helicopter anywhere outside the grounds and take people on rides or whatever he would like to do,' state fair spokeswoman Mindy Williamson told the Des Moines Register, 'but that will not be happening on Iowa State Fair grounds.'

Trump's campaign also expressed concerns about the safety risk involved with taking off and landing the Sikorsky helicopter at an event that will likely be attended by millions of people.

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#1. To: cranky (#0)

'We're going to keep the families together, but they have to go,'

he's going to have to get Congress to repeal the 1965 immigration law regarding birthright citizenship to kick out children born in the country from illegal parents .

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-08-16   9:20:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: cranky (#0)

Wow! He goes way past where I would go regarding illegals. His policy sounds like Eisenhower's "Operation Wetback". They've ALL got to go.

Well, ok then. Seems pretty hard. But if it's done fairly I can accept it. He made the point that asylum seekers - people with no country to go back to - were a different case and "We'll work with them". Obviously an asylum seeker is not an illegal alien. Different case.

Trump is offering "The Full Monty" here to Borderbots. He's going all the way back to Ike: mass deportation. Nobody else is ever going to offer what he's offering, so every Borderbot in the country had best stand up for Trump now. He's painted everything is very bright colors.

I think it goes to far, but I'm still with him. If he'll do that on the Border, then when it comes to pro-life, he apply a litmus test and put pro-life justices, and Roe will go.

When it comes to tax reform, he'll take us back to Reagan: expand the base and cut the deductions.

When it comes to carving the corruption out, as he says, he was one of the best at that game.

He's a leader.

Go Trump.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-08-16   9:21:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: tomder55 (#1)

"he's going to have to get Congress to repeal the 1965 immigration law regarding birthright citizenship to kick out children born in the country from illegal parents."

I'm sure the illegal parents will have the option to take their legal children or leave them. But they're going.

What were they thinking? How irresponsible can someone be? Do they think they can now lay a guilt trip on America for the poor decisions THEY made?

Take your kids and go. Get to the back of the line behind all the people who ARE responsible and play by the rules.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-16   10:28:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: tomder55 (#1)

he's going to have to get Congress to repeal the 1965 immigration law regarding birthright citizenship to kick out children born in the country from illegal parents .

I don't know why.

The power of executive fiat (both order and memorandum) appears to be both unlimited and unlimitable and impervious to Congressional interference.

And SCOTUS has ruled that black letter law is meaningless until SCOTUS determines whether or not the words mean what SCOTUS believes Congress meant what they wrote what they wrote and passed what they passed.

What's to stop him from ruling by decree?

There are three kinds of people in the world: those that can add and those that can't

cranky  posted on  2015-08-16   10:39:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Vicomte13 (#2)

"Wow! He goes way past where I would go regarding illegals."

It is where I would go, but I never expected Trump to go there.

Now that he's drawn the line, he can soften it by detailing his humanitarian plan for relocation. And knowing what the future holds for them, I would expect a lot of self-deportation and would expect a lot of employers double-checking their employment records.

I don't see Trump looking kindly upon employers who have illegals on the payroll instead of American citizens. And screw the "But I didn't know" bullshit. They know.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-16   10:42:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Vicomte13 (#2) (Edited)

I think it goes to far

It sure pushes the envelope.

I doubt it will be allowed to be taken seriously, though.

There are three kinds of people in the world: those that can add and those that can't

cranky  posted on  2015-08-16   10:43:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: cranky (#4)

"The power of executive fiat (both order and memorandum) appears to be both unlimited and unlimitable and impervious to Congressional interference."

The DREAM Act is a perfect example. If Obama can do it, so can Trump.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-16   10:48:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: cranky, Too Conservative (#0)

Where's Too Conservative?

I want to read him cry about how Trump has "gone too far". He's heartless and out of control. Old illegal widows and orphans will be cast aside.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-16   10:51:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Vicomte13 (#2)

Wow! He goes way past where I would go regarding illegals. His policy sounds like Eisenhower's "Operation Wetback". They've ALL got to go.

Uh-huh. But he's going to let them back in right away. Only the "good ones" of course.

Roar on.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-16   13:01:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: cranky, LF (#0)

"We're going to keep the [illegal invader] families together, but they have to go..we either have a country, or we don't have a country."

It's stunning. Donald Trump -- Saying the magic words we've expected the hear back on 9/12. Are we a nation of laws and borders or NOT??

The refreshing beauty of The Donald is the manner in which he cuts through all the usual parsing and euphemistic BS of politicians. The media seems especially unprepared and caught flat-footed by it. Chuck Todd -- who boasted to badger Trump until his questions were answered dared not risk a clock-cleaning.

We were all told unprecedented airport security and the Patriot Act was necessary to help prevent terror. In 15 years, NO legislation was proposed that prevents the illegal ENTRY and the army of at least 20 million strong from illegally intruding through our unguarded US border.

I'm fully expecting assaults of all kinds upon the head of Trump -- are any of you? Moreover -- does anyone else find it odd that there's been no immediate, widespread condemnation of Trump's clarity on the matter?

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-16   13:35:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Liberator (#10)

Are we a nation of laws and borders or NOT??

The answer to that question is, no, we are not.

I'm fully expecting assaults of all kinds upon the head of Trump -- are any of you? Moreover -- does anyone else find it odd that there's been no immediate, widespread condemnation of Trump's clarity on the matter?

If attacks don't come from all sides, I will be very surprised.

There are three kinds of people in the world: those that can add and those that can't

cranky  posted on  2015-08-16   13:41:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Liberator (#10)

I'm fully expecting assaults of all kinds upon the head of Trump -- are any of you?

The guy is not presidential material.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-08-16   13:43:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: TooConservative (#9)

Uh-huh. But he's going to let them back in right away. Only the "good ones" of course.

As opposed to the GOP's plan to for the American Taxpayer to subsidize and SWALLOW all 50 million illegal occupiers??

While you're busy deriding Trump's lack of specificity, multi-task and kindly remind us of the GOPe's own specific plan for dealing with what is STILL an WIDE open border and the 50 million strong illegal occupation (and growing) of MY country.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-16   13:46:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: buckeroo (#12)

The guy is not presidential material.

Who is -- in your opinion?

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-16   13:47:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: cranky (#0)

We are going to keep the families together, but they have to go': Trump vows to deport all undocumented immigrants and rescind any protections put in place by Obama

Somebody finally got their head straight and said exactly what needs to be done. Now the attempt will be made to label him divisive. Three cheers for divisiveness. We need a lot more of it to survive!

rlk  posted on  2015-08-16   13:49:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: cranky (#11)

The answer to that question is, no, we are not [a nation of laws.]

Which means we are unofficially currently living in a state of anarchy and chaos. While the President and Speaker of the House golf and laugh at the peasants.

If attacks don't come from all sides, I will be very surprised.

Thanks for confirming my own suspicions as inevitable.

If Trump becomes a martyr, the entire situation will become extremely volatile (which just may be the PTB syndicate's plan in any case.)

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-16   13:51:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Liberator (#14)

Who is -- in your opinion?

My dead dawg scruffy.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-08-16   13:51:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: rlk (#15)

Somebody finally got their head straight and said exactly what needs to be done. Now the attempt will be made to label him divisive. Three cheers for divisiveness. We need a lot more of it to survive!

Yes, finally somebody said IT.

The Powers-That-Be are still planning on exactly how to shut-down and marginalize Trump (Marcy Park-like threat??) The lack of the usual collusive media condemnation, Dem condemnation, and organized protests ("HE'S A HATER, INTOLERANT, AND DIVISIVE!!") is conspicuous. Is this the calm before the storm?

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-16   13:56:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: buckeroo (#17)

Uuuuh-kay.

So...you're content to keep on being a serf-pinata?

The ONLY change you'll ever see in your lifetime is by having the usual R-D charade bypassed.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-16   13:59:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: rlk (#15)

Now the attempt will be made to label him divisive.

Not just divisive but also out of touch, unrealistic, pandering, and unfair, while his plan is impossible, unworkable, unaffordable, unAmerican, etc.

There are three kinds of people in the world: those that can add and those that can't

cranky  posted on  2015-08-16   13:59:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Liberator (#19)

The ONLY change you'll ever see in your lifetime is by having the usual R-D charade bypassed.

Yup. And it ain't going to happen. I am resigned to being expatriate sucking down mint julips under the shade of some palm trees on a nice warm beach with a few billowy clouds off in the distance.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-08-16   14:03:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Liberator (#16)

Which means we are unofficially currently living in a state of anarchy and chaos.

When some residents and even some government representatives can openly flout laws and aid and abet others in doing the same and to do so publicly without fear of prosecution, I'd say we're very close to something like that.

There are three kinds of people in the world: those that can add and those that can't

cranky  posted on  2015-08-16   14:04:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Liberator, buckeroo, draft Jones (#14)

Who is -- in your opinion?

Congressman Walter B. Jones(R-NC)? He's 72, and has enough integrity to not want the job. He virtually invented "freedom fries".

Walter B. Jones/Thomas Massie 2012!


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-08-16   15:13:01 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: hondo68 (#23)

He virtually invented "freedom fries".

He'd rather you didn't remind him of that one.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-16   15:44:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: TooConservative (#24)

The American version of French fries isn't as good as the French version either, so by all means call the limp, soggy thick things we eat here "Freedom Fries", to clearly distinguish them from REAL fries, which are, of course, French (and Belgian).

Merci!

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-08-16   23:22:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: hondo68 (#23)

Congressman Walter B. Jones(R-NC)? He's 72, and has enough integrity to not want the job.

I don't understand -- you equate the simple desire of rejecting the task and sacrifice of Presidency with..."integrity"?? You DO understand the concept of voids being filled, right?

"Leadership" to me is challenging the status quo and willingness to fight for this Republic. Jones may well be a good Congressman....but they are a dime a dozen. I could trust at least three LF'ers who would have MORE integrity and the balls to take the job of President tomorrow...and do it well.

'JONES CALLS ON FEDS NOT TO OVERREGULATE SPINY DOGFISH'

I smell a Nobel.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-17   14:54:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: TooConservative, hondo68 (#24)

He virtually invented "freedom fries".

He'd rather you didn't remind him of that one.

Why not? That was a major coup in our "You're-either-with-us-or-against-us" 'War Against Disagreeable Allies'.

You can NOT imagine the guilt of sipping my French Roast coffee at that time. But how many sacrifices in the name of American patriotism were we supposed to make at the time for Dear Leader?

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-17   15:08:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Liberator, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#26)

You DO understand the concept of voids being filled, right?

Yes, someone like Lindsey Graham or some other real republican might replace him as congressman. That would be a tragedy.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-08-17   19:09:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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