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Title: Donald Trump: The rat that roared
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Washington Examiner
URL Source: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/d ... at-that-roared/article/2570019
Published: Aug 11, 2015
Author: Timothy P. Carney
Post Date: 2015-08-13 04:32:37 by Tooconservative
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Views: 10343
Comments: 66
Stop waiting for Donald Trump to blow up. The bombastic billionaire isn't going to explode. He's going to shrivel up. Trump's fatal flaw isn't his oversized ego, but his undersized character. America can love an irreverent blowhard — even a foul and boorish one like Trump. But a blowhard can't get away with whining and being thin-skinned. Trump is proving himself to be a thin-skinned whiner, rather than the magnanimous braggart whose image he has cultivated. Trump's appeal is a mystery to much of the press — both the conservative media and the left-leaning mainstream media. Part of it is his hawkish (if deeply inconsistent) rhetoric on immigration, an issue the elites of both parties like to avoid. Part of his appeal comes from his inchoate (but not ultimately wrong) rants against the corruption of Washington politics. But his unapologetic offensiveness — the very trait the media has been counting on to sink Trump — is also part of his appeal. At every turn, media elites ask him, basically: Won't you publicly apologize for some thing you've said? That was Megyn Kelly's question to him, specifically about nasty personal things he had said about women. NBC's Chuck Todd asked him if he was allergic to apologizing. Trump's answer to Todd was perfect: "No. I apologize when I'm wrong." Today, we're supposed to apologize — grovel, even — for nearly everything. Make one bad joke on Twitter, and you're expected to prostrate yourself before the social media mob. The list of forbidden joke topics is expanding toward infinity, as comedians from Jerry Seinfeld to Trevor Noah to Amy Schumer learn daily. Heck, Democratic politician Marty O'Malley even had to apologize for saying "all lives matter." Even if you don't do anything wrong, you're supposed to apologize for your privilege: white privilege, male privilege, straight privilege, upper-middle-class privilege. Simply identifying as your actual biological gender counts as "privilege" today. In this suffocating, absurd, oppressive environment of political correctness, Trump looks like a free and brave man, saying what he wants and refusing to apologize. The people who support him see him as unchained, and they want to be like him. So his bombast won't bring him down, because it's self-reinforcing. Even the truly foul, vulgar and idiotic things he says (of course, today we use only the less descriptive and more political descriptors such as "offensive") only serve to bolster his image as a pariah in an age of political correctness. None of that can bring Trump down. What will bring him down is the fact that criticism instantly turns him into a thin-skinned whiner. His reaction to Megyn Kelly was telling. When confronted with his demeaning and dumb comments about women, Trump didn't simply say, I'm too busy making America great again to worry about your petty speech police. He complained to Kelly about "the way you have treated me." Awwwww. The bombastic reality TV star entering into politics has been criticized by a media figure. Poor baby. He then spent days on Twitter just complaining about Fox. For example: "Other networks seem to treat me so much better than @FoxNews." A man who stands behind what he says but apologizes when he's wrong sounds admirable and appealing. Trump doesn't do that. After his weird attacks on John McCain's service in Vietnam and suffering as a POW, Trump gave mealy-mouthed non-credible, quasi-defenses. As Rich Lowry wrote in National Review, "For someone who prides himself on being the bold truth-teller, Trump has a penchant for trying to litigate his way out of his controversial statements." Trump is willing, at least, to stand up for his whining. "I am a whiner," he said on CNN Tuesday morning, "and I'm a whiner and I keep whining and whining until I win." This rings familiar if you've followed Trump. He's found success by gaming bankruptcy law, failing to repay debts, exploiting his crony connections, whining, and working the refs. And so the picture of the man comes into focus: Trump is Victor Hugo's Monsieur Thenardier: "We know where the wind is blowing. Money is the stuff we smell. And when we're rich as Croesus, Jesus! Won't we see you all in hell!" Trump is another sewer rat in American industry. He wants to be another sewer rat of American politics. And he promises to make the U.S. the sewer rat of the world. The media has waited for Trump to flame out. He may instead simply scurry away. Timothy P. Carney, The Washington Examiner's senior political columnist, can be contacted at tcarney@washingtonexaminer.com. His column appears Tuesday and Thursday nights on washingtonexaminer.com. Poster Comment: He is pretty whiny, by his own admission. Real estate mogul Donald Trump plans to whine his way right into the White House. While some have complained about Trump's meltdown after Fox News personality Megyn Kelly asked him about his history of belittling women, the billionaire businessman says it's a tactic he will embrace up until election day. "I do whine because I want to win and I'm not happy about not winning and I am a whiner and I keep whining and whining until I win," Trump said Tuesday on CNN's "New Day." The divisive GOP candidate defended himself to host Chris Cuomo after being asked about a recent National Review column that criticized his post-debate behavior. "By Trump's own account, he's the baddest, smartest thing going, except if you ask him a challenging question, in which case he kicks and screams and demands to know how anyone could treat him so unfairly," wrote National Review's Rich Lowry. "I think he's probably right," Trump told Cuomo in reference to Lowry describing him as the "the most fabulous whiner in all of American politics." Cuomo pushed back, arguing that being a whiner could create issues for a President Trump whose duties would include cooperating with Congress and frequent meetings with no-nonsense world leaders like Russian President Vladimir Putin.
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#2. To: rlk (#1)
Damn right Robert! Si vis pacem, para bellum
No, Rich, Trump has a penchant for going after the media, and individuals in the media, when they misquote him, take his words out-of-context, or lie about what he said. And you don't like that. YOU'RE the media, dammit, and no one is supposed to insult anyone who "buys ink by the barrel", right? They're supposed to kiss your ass and beg you not to write bad things about them. Screw that, Rich. You disgust Trump and the rest of us more than the good-old-boy network in Washington, DC.
Trump is a lawsuit troll. He likes to sue writers if they don't agree with his claims of net worth. Or if they mention his four bankrupties. He sues old widows to seize their property for himself.
And yet you claim he has nothing in common with the average American. See? "Or if they mention his four bankrupties." Only when they don't also mention his hundreds of successes, resulting in him becoming a multi- billionaire. "He sues old widows to seize their property for himself." Oh, please. He didn't have legal standing to do that. But the City of Atlantic City did. Trump offered that old widow $1.9 million (plus a free lifetime residence on any of his properties) for a house she paid $20,000 for. That old widow got greedy and asked for $5 million. Her house ended up on the auction block.
There is always... the rest of the story. Have you noticed on LP or on LF, the bigger your agenda, the more you post articles or statements that lack "the rest of the story" TC isn't bad. He's a more well rounded poster than Deckard, Hondo and Bucky... but his anti Trump agenda might leave him leaving out "the rest of the story". Kinda like claiming some drug addled turd bag, that tried to run over an officer, was shot and killed for a tail light. lol I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
You are marginalizing yourself old friend.
On LF? You've got to be kidding.
shot and killed for a tail light. lol Thanks for the ping, agenda shill. You're more of a pointy pinhead doughnut munching jack booted thug, tard. Show me were I must ping you in the forum rules.... oh, it's common courtesy to ping you? Since when did you deserve or earn that? I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Have you ever eaten a doughnut while driving a squad car? How about slurpin' a kup o' koffee while driving a squad car?
You have a God given unalienable Constitutional right to be an ahole, enjoy! Both, actually. I've even toasted a $4,500.00 Panasonic lap top PC by accidentally pouring a 24 ounce Sunoco coffee on the keyboard. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
You bet I do... Try not to forget it. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
You mean you charged the publick for your own negligence of duty while willful destruction of publick property?
look up the definition of "willful", Bucky... it's how you learn. lol I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Slurpin' koffee & eating doughnuts in a squad car while on duty is "willful" violation of formal policies and procedures. You should think about all the shenanigans you think you got away with costing the publick perhaps MILLIONS. I wager you were asleep in some back alley, too. Yeah, right behind Ike's Korner store catering to bums like you sucking down cheap wine "in the publick interst."
My assigned patrol car was my office. You drank your Coffee in your office... and so did I. It was not a policy violation the eat or drink in a patrol car... unless the drink was alcoholic. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Oh, I see... sitting in a squad car for 7.99 hours out of an 8.0 shift eating doughnuts & slurpin' koffee hiding from your real patrol duties give you an "out" of policy and procedures. Of course, you were right there in case of a publick riot or if some REAL crininal came your way, correct? How many dawgs did you murder in the name of the "doughnut GAWD?"
Buckeroo shut up with your stupid comments about donuts. You add nothing to the conversation. We get it you hate cops and want anarchy.
Actually, it the best that can be said about them. I was providing accolades to our civil servants.
Only shot and killed one dog. It was a st. Bernard and it later tested rabid. It had already bit one person. Do you need a big liberal tissue? I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Did you confiscate the St. Bernard's kegger located on his neck to suck down the alcholic contents?
I'll refrain from answering your questions since I'm enabling you to degrade the forum. I won't do that to Stone. Night, Bucky I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
In the CNN/ORC poll, Trump (22%), Carson (14%), Walker (9%) Cruz (8%) and Fiorina (7%) account for 60% of the GOP vote, with Bush (5%) tied with Rubio and Paul. Which Republican candidate do you think would do the best job handling the economy Trump (37%), Fiorina (10%), others in single digits. Illegal immigration Trump (35%), Cruz (10%), others in single digits. Is most likely to change the way things work in Washington Trump (44%), Carson (9%), Cruz (8%), Fiorina (7%), Walker (7%), others 4% or less. http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/12/politics/iowa-donald-trump-poll-cnn-orc/index.html By Jennifer Agiesta, CNN Polling Director Washington (CNN)Donald Trump has a significant lead in the race to win over likely Iowa caucus-goers, according to the first CNN/ORC poll in the state this cycle. Trump tops the field with 22% and is the candidate seen as best able to handle top issues including the economy, illegal immigration and terrorism. He's most cited as the one with the best chance of winning the general election, and, by a wide margin, as the candidate most likely to change the way things work in Washington. Retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson follows Trump in overall preference with 14%, bumping Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, who had held the top spot in most recent public polling in Iowa, down to third place with 9%. Walker is nearly even with a slew of other candidates. Previous public polls had found Carson with around 10% support, but most were released before last week's debate. A Suffolk University poll of Iowa Republicans released Tuesday found Carson's closing remarks to be the most memorable moment for those who watched the prime time debate. Texas Sen. Ted Cruz follows the top three at 8%, with businesswoman Carly Fiorina and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee both at 7%. Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush is tied at 5% with senators Rand Paul and Marco Rubio. The rest of the field stands at 3% or less. Two-thirds of Iowa Republicans who are likely to attend the caucus say they're still trying to decide whom to support. Among the 34% who say they have made up their mind or are leading toward a candidate, Trump's lead grows, and the top of the field shifts. Among that group, 33% back Trump, 14% Carson, 11% Fiorina, and 9% each back Paul and Walker. Cruz follows at 7%, and all others have less than 5% support. But Trump's advantages are not universal. He faces a large gender gap: While holding a 15-point lead over his nearest competitor among men (27% Trump to 12% Walker, Carson at 10%), he trails among women (20% back Carson, 15% Trump, and 11% support Fiorina). He runs behind Carson and about even with Walker and Cruz among those who describe themselves as "very conservative" (25% Carson, 15% each Cruz and Walker, 12% Trump), and he runs even with Carson among evangelical Christians (18% each Trump and Carson, 12% Cruz, 11% Huckabee, 10% Walker). Both evangelical Christians and those who call themselves very conservative make up a substantial share of Iowa caucus-goers. According to entrance polls conducted for CNN, half of caucus attendees considered themselves "very conservative" in 2012, while born-again Christians were 57% of participants. Forty-three percent of 2012 Republican caucus attendees were women. Trump's support in Iowa rests on perceptions that he would do the best job handling several top issues and that he is most electable. He tops the list by wide margins when GOP caucus-goers are asked which candidate they trust most to handle the economy, illegal immigration and terrorism. And Trump holds his biggest advantage as the candidate who "is most likely to change the way things work in Washington," 44% say Trump can do that, no other candidate hits double-digits. But while Trump falters somewhat on representing the values of Republicans, no clear leader emerges on that question, with nine candidates at 5% or higher: 14% Carson, 12% Trump, 11% Huckabee, 10% Cruz, 9% Walker, 6% each Bush and Paul, and 5% each Fiorina and Jindal. And he falls well below the lead when voters are asked which candidate would best handle abortion; 17% each say Carson and Huckabee would be best on that score, 7% each choose Bush and Trump, 6% each Cruz, Paul and Walker, and Rubio stands at 5%. The reason behind Walker's tumble from the top of the pack in Iowa may be in those issue questions: Although 11% see him as the most electable in the field, he hasn't impressed on the issues. Walker falls below 10% on each issue tested, with his best showing the 8% who think he would best handle the economy. When asked to name the issue that will be most important in deciding which candidate to support for president next year, Iowa Republicans likely to attend the presidential caucus most frequently cite an economic issue, with 33% naming an economy-related concern, 20% a foreign policy issue, 14% immigration, 8% social issues, and 6% government spending, taxes or the national debt. Among those who call the economy their top concern, 39% say they most trust Trump to handle it, 12% Fiorina, and 11% Walker. And those who cite a foreign policy concern also put Trump atop their list of trusted candidates for handling terrorism, but by a smaller margin: 17% trust Trump, 10% Cruz, 9% Paul. The poll was conducted August 7-11 among a statewide sample of 2,014 Iowa adults, 544 of whom were identified as likely Republican caucusgoers based on questions about whether they are registered to vote, likelihood of voting, past voting behavior and interest in the campaign. The margin of sampling error for results among the sample of likely Republican caucus attendees is plus or minus 4 percentage points.
I think Carson would likely win Iowa if the caucuses were held in the short term. It would fit with their general history, like voting for Huck in 2008. The Iowa evangelicals are a cohesive group and Carson would fit them to a T. Carson has a decent ground game in Iowa based on his volunteers with experience. Trump can go in and buy a lot of campaign help in IA. He'd like to make a big splash there so he might finally pull some money out to spend there. And there are still probably some Iowa hired guns available to hire. Working for these campaigns is something of a small industry to springs to life every 4 years. I think the bigger problems will surface with running an extended ground campaign in IA/NH/SC. Also, I simply cannot picture Trump starting to work the long 14-hour days on those buses, hitting all those events, etc. It is a tremendous amount of work. You have to be a total people person to do it. Half the time, Trump can't be bothered to leave his penthouse to go on ABCNNBCBS or FNC and just phones it in. And they are only a couple of blocks from Trump Tower. He won't go two blocks for a TV interview but he's going to hang out at the country fairs of Iowa all day, meeting and greeting. Maybe he has some yuge heretofore unknown talent for rubbing palms with the hoi polloi. But there really is nothing in his past to indicate Trump has any real interest in the kind of retail politics a presidential campaign requires. Perot was much the same way; these guys are businessmen, not pols.
You censored your own remarks? I think you might be losing it.
I censor my own remarks all the time. I bet you wish you knew what I said.
By deduction, I can make a pretty accurate guess. You said some sort of Taliban-Christian thing, like calling TC a goat fukker or something along those lines. Right?
I deny it. But 4 very shapely sheep caught my eye while out driving today. They were definitely hot, in their woolly splendor.
So you had to shoot with your right hand while holding your donut in your left hand? : )
I knew that rumor Fred tried to start wasn't true.
I think the bigger problems will surface with running an extended ground campaign in IA/NH/SC. Also, I simply cannot picture Trump starting to work the long 14-hour days on those buses, hitting all those events, etc. I can't picture Trump working 14-hours a day in a Scooby bus to hit small events when he can get all the free tv air time he wants and can draw a large crowd wherever he chooses to appear. It's nice to have all that free air time. It means he does not have to buy any airtime. I have not heard one message yet that ended with, "I'm Donald Trump and I approve this message."
Trump (37%), Fiorina (10%), others in single digits. Illegal immigration Trump (35%), Cruz (10%), others in single digits. Is most likely to change the way things work in Washington Trump (44%)... I think we're seeing a consensus. Trump is not the problem; The credibility of the GOPe, DC Cartel and business-as-usual is. This is a marathon, not a sprint. If Trump has what it takes, the GOP nomination is his. UNLESS he gets a "Godfather" visit.
I assume WE won't see those types of ads until the beginning of 2016. Trump's ads should be doozies. For the time being, Trump will remain the #1 star of the media.....ONLY because they can't wait for what they hope is an eventual trainwreck. If he never quite facilitates it himself, the media, GOPe or Dems will merely create it at the right opportunity.
Yeah, they'll end with "I'm Donald Trump and I'm looking good!"
Voters in IA and NH are quite vain and demand to be courted in person. That ain't pretty. And it isn't classy stuff. There is a difference between being a looky-loo for the only celeb that has ever set foot in the state and being an actual Trump supporter at the caucus. Iowa tends to be a little desperate to predict the eventual nominee, just to prove their caucus is relevant to politics and justify their status as the first contest.
A lone-wolf psycho or other stalker is far more likely. Trump does have a much bigger profile than other candidates.
Free airtime will dry up very soon. So will these interviews where Trump is allowed to phone it in. Those affiliates in early primary states live off of this campaign money. With the changes in the 2016 primary schedule, a lot of other states' network affiliates want some sweet campaign ad money too. The networks won't be able to just give Trump a free ride. They ain't gonna give it away much longer even if he is a celeb. Trump will have to pay like anyone else. I think Trump might drive up media ad rates for all candidates in some of these media markets. Of the other candidates, only Bush has enough money to try for a media shutout on Trump. That means going in early enough and buying all the ad time in local media to keep your opponent (Trump) from even having a chance to buy any. Bush has bought up most of the top campaign talent already (Romney just bought them all right off, especially the dirty tricksters with national experience). So the kind of ads they'd go after would be stuff like talk radio (Limbaugh, Vannity, Levin) and the most desirable ad slots on local TV affiliates. A campaign with deep pockets can do a lot of strategy in manipulating ad availability in a small cheap ad market. The only thing that tends to spoil it is other candidates could drop out and then Trump would get a shot at buying their ads (at top dollar of course). These kinds of tactics from well-funded establishment campaigns like a Bush or Romney campaign are the kind of thing that deep pocket support can buy. It is much harder to do this in NH because large parts of the state are part of the Boston media market and it is way too expensive to try to corner the media market there. No doubt, Roger Stone informed Trump of these tactics and many others. So what if Trump went all-in on winning Iowa and he pulled the same stunt on the other candidates and struck first to grab up all the ads (or all the best ones), shutting them out? Man, would they be pissed!
November at the latest. That is, if Trump is actually serious. By then, all the free media will dry up. It always does.
I censor my own remarks all the time. I bet you wish you knew what I said. Haaaaa I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest" Let's hope he will keep on roaring. He threatens to initiate a long overdue revolution that has been needed. "
#3. To: TooConservative (#0)
"As Rich Lowry wrote in National Review, "For someone who prides himself on being the bold truth-teller, Trump has a penchant for trying to litigate his way out of his controversial statements."
#4. To: misterwhite (#3)
"As Rich Lowry wrote in National Review, "For someone who prides himself on being the bold truth-teller, Trump has a penchant for trying to litigate his way out of his controversial statements."
#5. To: TooConservative (#4)
"Trump is a lawsuit troll."
#6. To: misterwhite (#5)
Trump offered that old widow $1.9 million (plus a free lifetime residence on any of his properties) for a house she paid $20,000 for. That old widow got greedy and asked for $5 million. Her house ended up on the auction block.
#7. To: TooConservative (#0)
#8. To: BobCeleste (#7)
You are marginalizing yourself old friend.
#9. To: GrandIsland, Deckard, buckeroo, TooConservative (#6)
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TC isn't bad. He's a more well rounded poster than Deckard, Hondo and Bucky...
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#10. To: hondo68 (#9)
Thanks for the ping
#11. To: GrandIsland (#10)
#12. To: GrandIsland, aholes, Gatlin (#10)
Show me were I must ping you
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#13. To: buckeroo (#11)
Have you ever eaten a doughnut while driving a squad car? How about slurpin' a kup o' koffee while driving a squad car?
#14. To: hondo68 (#12)
You have a God given unalienable Constitutional right to be an ahole
#15. To: GrandIsland (#13)
Both, actually. I've even toasted a $4,500.00 Panasonic lap top PC by accidentally pouring a 24 ounce Sunoco coffee on the keyboard.
#16. To: buckeroo (#15)
You mean you charged the publick for your own negligence of duty while willful destruction of publick property?
#17. To: GrandIsland (#16)
#18. To: buckeroo (#17)
Slurpin' koffee & eating doughnuts in a squad car while on duty is "willful" violation of formal policies and procedures.
#19. To: GrandIsland (#18)
#20. To: buckeroo (#19)
#21. To: A K A Stone (#20)
Buckeroo shut up with your stupid comments about donuts. You add nothing to the conversation. We get it you hate cops and want anarchy.
#22. To: buckeroo (#19)
#23. To: GrandIsland (#22)
#24. To: buckeroo (#23)
#25. To: TooConservative (#0)
CNN / ORC Poll: Trump tops in Iowa as Scott Walker drops
Updated 4:45 PM ET, Wed August 12, 2015
#26. To: nolu chan (#25)
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#27. To: TooConservative (#26)
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#28. To: A K A Stone (#27)
#29. To: Fred Mertz (#28)
#30. To: A K A Stone (#29)
I bet you wish you knew what I said.
#31. To: Fred Mertz (#30)
You said some sort of Taliban-Christian thing, like calling TC a goat fukker or something along those lines.
#32. To: GrandIsland (#22)
Only shot and killed one dog. It was a st. Bernard and it later tested rabid. It had already bit one person.
#33. To: TooConservative (#31)
I deny it. But 4 very shapely sheep caught my eye while out driving today. They were definitely hot, in their woolly splendor.
#34. To: TooConservative (#26)
Trump can go in and buy a lot of campaign help in IA. He'd like to make a big splash there so he might finally pull some money out to spend there. And there are still probably some Iowa hired guns available to hire. Working for these campaigns is something of a small industry to springs to life every 4 years.
#35. To: nolu chan (#25)
Which Republican candidate do you think would do the best job handling the economy
#36. To: nolu chan (#34)
It's nice to have all that free air time. It means he does not have to buy any airtime. I have not heard one message yet that ended with, "I'm Donald Trump and I approve this message."
#37. To: Liberator (#36)
Trump's ads should be doozies.
#38. To: nolu chan (#34)
I can't picture Trump working 14-hours a day in a Scooby bus to hit small events when he can get all the free tv air time he wants and can draw a large crowd wherever he chooses to appear.
#39. To: Liberator (#35)
If Trump has what it takes, the GOP nomination is his. UNLESS he gets a "Godfather" visit.
#40. To: nolu chan (#34)
It's nice to have all that free air time. It means he does not have to buy any airtime.
#41. To: Liberator (#36)
I assume WE won't see those types of ads until the beginning of 2016. Trump's ads should be doozies.
#42. To: A K A Stone (#29)
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