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Title: Donald Trump Slaps China for Sucking the 'Blood Out of the United States'
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URL Source: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/dona ... nited-states/story?id=33034076
Published: Aug 12, 2015
Author: JOHN SANTUCCI
Post Date: 2015-08-12 11:07:44 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 1661
Comments: 26

Presidential candidate Donald Trump continued his tough talk in a speech Tuesday evening to over 2,500 supporters here. The New York real estate mogul discussed the news that China had devalued its currency, the result of which, he said, is to "suck the blood out of the United States.”

Trump told the crowd his friend and businessman Carl Icahn, whom he called a “brilliant negotiator," is ready to jump in to trade negotiations with China and Japan.

Experts and investors worry that the currency devaluation might make it harder for the Chinese to buy goods from Western companies.

Trump received several standing ovations, including when he repeated his call to “build a wall,” referencing his stance on illegal immigration and the United States’ relationship with Mexico.

Speaking to reporters before his speech, the front-running GOP presidential candidate said he plans to roll out specific policy ideas in the next two weeks but would not say which proposal would be coming first.

Attacking his critics, Trump expressed his delight at seeing Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., and former Texas Gov. Rick Perry slumping in the polls. Trump also pointed in his speech to Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., who Monday called The Donald a “fake conservative.”

His message? "Rand, I've had you up to here," Trump said, while raising his hand in the air shortly below his chin.

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#2. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

Trump told the crowd his friend and businessman Carl Icahn, whom he called a “brilliant negotiator," is ready to jump in to trade negotiations with China and Japan.

So Icahn is going to be both trade negotiator and Secretary of the Treasury (an appointment he has already accepted from Trump publicly)?

If Icahn is so great, why don't we elect him president instead of Trump?

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-12   11:22:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: TooConservative (#2)

If Icahn is so great, why don't we elect him president instead of Trump?

Two reasons, he is not running and he has already accepted the Sec. of Treasury appointment.

U don't know me  posted on  2015-08-12   11:43:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: U don't know me, tpaine, nolu chan, Pericles, nativist nationalist, A K A Stone (#4)

Two reasons, he is not running and he has already accepted the Sec. of Treasury appointment.

BTW, this sort of thing isn't done by other pols for a reason. It's against the laws and has been for a long time.

From the old Volokh.com website, 2005

Why Presidential Candidates Can't Run With a Cabinet Already Lined Up:

Lawprof Michael Froomkin (Discourse.Net) had a great post last year on this subject; I missed it when it first went up, but it's still interesting now:

As my friend John Berryhill points out . . .:

[S]hadow cabinets have not been used in the United States because [a candidate who promises, as part of his election campaign, to appoint someone to the Cabinet] would face up to two years in jail under 18 USC § 599:

"Whoever, being a candidate, directly or indirectly promises or pledges the appointment, or the use of his influence or support for the appointment of any person to any public or private position or employment, for the purpose of procuring support in his candidacy shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if the violation was willful, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both."

Incidentally, I'm not sure that this provision is constutitional — see Brown v. Hartlage (1982). (Please don't argue in the Comments that it's constitutional or unconstitutional without having read Brown; it's both the most directly on-point precedent, and it makes important policy arguments that even people who don't care much about precedent should deal with.)

I know there is a term for this kind of corruption from the old common law but I can't recall it. Annoying. Maybe nolu can recall it. That's why real pols never make such stupid announcements. It virtually prevents them from actually appointing that person to office.

I doubt Icahn could donate to Trump now, even to his super-PAC. And I already doubted that Icahn was serious because he'd never want to put his holdings in a blind trust.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-12   12:55:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: TooConservative (#7)

Trump probably doesn't know the law, and intends for Icahn to be Secretary of Treasury.

If elected, Trump should just appoint him anyway and screw the law, and then cause the Dept of Justice to fail to prosecute.

This sort of law is like the Tenure of Office Act, of the sort that Andrew Johnson rightly broke.

Anyway, once Trump is elected and sworn in, cabinet shuffle: Veep steps out of that office into something cushy, Trump names Sarah Palin President.

Then see if Congress tries to impeach him for naming Icahn under this petty law.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-08-12   13:23:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Vicomte13 (#8)

Anyway, once Trump is elected and sworn in, cabinet shuffle: Veep steps out of that office into something cushy, Trump names Sarah Palin President.

Biden, Trump, Icahn, you're just off into an entire fantasy world of Magical Thinking, aren't you?

Given Icahn's history as an investor, you cannot seriously think he could ever be appointed, let alone confirmed, as SecTreas.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-12   13:36:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: TooConservative (#10)

Biden, Trump, Icahn, you're just off into an entire fantasy world of Magical Thinking, aren't you?

Given Icahn's history as an investor, you cannot seriously think he could ever be appointed, let alone confirmed, as SecTreas.

I think Trump should win and nominate whomever he pleases to those jobs.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-08-12   14:48:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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