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Title: Yes, Trump Lost the Debate
Source: National Review
URL Source: http://www.nationalreview.com/corne ... 4/trump-lost-debate-rich-lowry
Published: Aug 12, 2015
Author: Rich Lowry
Post Date: 2015-08-12 09:37:23 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 15600
Comments: 132

Per this Suffolk University survey in Iowa that is not an online poll like many of the other post-debate surveys. Trump didn’​t suffer a catastrophe (he still leads in the state), but the debate hurt him:

The Suffolk survey has warning signs for Trump. By 2-1, 55%-23%, those surveyed say watching Trump in the debate made them feel less comfortable rather than more comfortable with him as a candidate for president. A 54% majority also reject Trump’s complaints that he was treated unfairly by the Fox News anchors who served as moderators; 41% agree with him.

And a third of Iowa Republicans say Trump – enmeshed in a post-debate contretemps over his comments about Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly – “doesn’t show appropriate respect for women.” A larger number, 46%, side with the real-estate mogul and reality-TV star, saying criticism of his comments about women “are just examples of political correctness.”

Then there’s this: Trump scores a big lead among those who didn’t watch the debate, at 21%, double the standing of retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson, who finishes second at 10%. But among those who watched the debate, Trump does less well, tied with Walker at 14%.

Trump is at 17 percent, Walker at 12 percent, Rubio at 10 percent, Carson at 9 percent, Ted Cruz at 7 percent, Fiorina at 7 percent, Bush at 5 percent, Kasich at 3 percent, Huckabee at 2 percent, Paul at 2 percent, and Christie at 2 percent.

Meanwhile, Trump still leads in New Hampshire, but is lower than he had been in prior surveys:

And Rasmussen has Trump losing altitude nationally:

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds Trump with 17% support among Likely Republican Primary Voters, down from 26% in late July before the first GOP debate. Senator Marco Rubio and former Florida Governor Jeb Bush are in second place with 10% support each, in a near tie with Fiorina and Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker who both earn nine percent (9%) of the likely primary vote.

Next with eight percent (8%) come retired neurologist Dr. Ben Carson and Senator Ted Cruz at seven percent (7%). (To see survey question wording, click here.)


Poster Comment:

Trump's highest Suffolk poll standing in IA is among people who didn't watch the debate. So Trump polls best among Iowa's Know-Nothings. He could have advocated full-blown Soviet communism and still been their pick.

You can't deny that NR is still a hotbed of Trump haters ("Witless Ape Rides Escalator") so take it all, like any these goofy August name-recognition polls, with a big grain of salt.

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#11. To: TooConservative (#0) (Edited)

"Per this Suffolk University survey in Iowa that is not an online poll like many of the other post-debate surveys."

"OK staff. Find a survey, any survey, anywhere, that shows Trump didn't do as well in the debate as everyone is saying. I don't even care if it's from some obscure university in some podunk state. Just get me one I can use!"

Annnnd, Rich Lowry joins the growing list at National review that will not get an interview with Trump. There's a publication with diversity, huh?

I found a recording of the staff at National Review on their way to work:

misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-12   10:48:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: misterwhite (#11)

Annnnd, Rich Lowry joins the growing list at National review that will not get an interview with Trump. There's a publication with diversity, huh?

They don't care. They believe it is impossible for Trump to get the nomination.

Trump will never get key party leaders to support him. Historically, it is the single strongest factor in securing the nomination. Just ask the Xlintons. That's how Obama beat them (along with playing a strong game in the delegate caucuses that follow immediately after many state primaries and playing the superdelegate game well).

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-12   11:07:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: TooConservative (#19)

Trump will never get key party leaders to support him.

Do you dream about Donald Trump too?

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-08-12   11:09:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#23. To: A K A Stone (#21)

Do you dream about Donald Trump too?

Nope.

What's wrong, starting to recall what it felt like to support Fred Thompson to your dying breath as he doddered around the Iowa state fair?

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-12 11:11:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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