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Title: Hillary Clinton May Go to Prison
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Breitbart
URL Source: http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern ... lary-clinton-may-go-to-prison/
Published: Aug 11, 2015
Author: Joel B. Pollak
Post Date: 2015-08-11 20:17:55 by cranky
Keywords: None
Views: 8724
Comments: 75
According to Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA), at least two of the emails contained “Top Secret, Sensitive Compartmented Information.” An ordinary person–or even a well-known leader like General David Petraeus–would be prosecuted for moving classified information onto a private system. And that is just the beginning of her legal problems. Clinton not only allegedly exchanged classified information via private e-mail, but also destroyed her emails before handing them over to the State Department before the government could determine for itself which were personal and which were job-related. That could constitute a felony, with a three-year prison sentence attached. And that is just the beginning of what is known. It is worth noting, too, that much of the information emerging on Hillary Clinton first emerged from three sources: the Benghazi select committee, which the left attempted to dismiss; the independent Judicial Watch organization, which submitted key Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests; and the thorough research of Peter Schweizer, who documented Clinton’s alleged conflicts of interests. This time, the Clinton magic may not be able to save her. 
Hillary Clinton is going to prison–or would be, if she were an ordinary prison. The FBI has reportedly taken possession of the emails on her home computer server, according to U.S. officials cited by the Associated Press.
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#28. To: redleghunter, Stoner (#27)
seconds actually. Stoner asked and I complied for cheap. :)
Annoyingly, a president has broad discretion in pardons. Including pre-emptive pardons. You recall that Ford gave a "full, free and unconditional pardon" to Nixon on 9/8/74. The classic case. Wiki: List of people pardoned or granted clemency by the President of the United States Obola's list is pretty short, meaning he is cooking up a real doozy of an outbound pardon. Mass mass pardons for illegals or for non-violent drug offenders. Something big. It would be consistent with his low character and craving for some durable achievement, anything really.
Trump gets in and she will go to prison. Yes you can. Ford pardoned Nixon before he was even indicted.
Maybe it was Trump. You recall his yuge investigation with a posse of retired former deputies of Sheriff Joe, looking into that mysterious birth certificate. If Oily Taitz is queen of the Birthers, then Trump is King of the Birthers. Funny how some people seem to forget this stuff so quickly. They're like children.
I hope AoS moves their "virtual" location. They had some comments up there they should have never posted.
"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
I didn't read their comments. I also didn't read your comment about their comments and have no idea what you're talking about. I know nothing. I really just mindlessly post this stuff without ever reading it at all. I am barely literate to begin with. Finally: I...did not...have sex with that AoS server. : )
There are only three classifications: Confidential, Secret, and Top Secret. A security clearance does not give access to anything. It only makes one eligible for a grant of access. The responsible official can grant access authorization to subordinates on a need-to-know basis. According the to book, nobody has any level of access based on their position (except maybe the President?). SCI is not a classification but a designator for Secret Compartmented Information. Indicators such as NOFORN (No Foreign Nationals) and LIMDIS (Limited Distribution) are caveats. Each limits access to the information. SCI is extremely limited outside of the intelligence community. On that last 11 August 2015 Memo: TOP SECRET/SI/TK/NOFORN Top Secret, Special Intelligence, Talent Keyhole, No Foreign Nationals This is way above the IG. I don't want to get anywhere near this shitstorm.
Unlike the Petraeus compromise, this one is untrackable. Basically, everything must be assumed compromised due to hacking, and known compromised due to mishandling resulting in unauthorized distribution. Sidney Blumenthal and his source may also have a problem.
Funny how some people seem to forget this stuff so quickly. They're like children. Forget? I didn't know. Now I like him better. Obama was probably born in Kenya. He's a citizen by birth, probably, because of his mother, and therefore "natural born", but that issue should have been vetted by the public in the electoral cycle, but was instead squashed. I'm glad that Trump did not let it go, if what you say is true. What a mensch!
Essentially, the President's pardon power is plenary, i.e., without limit. Nixon was pardoned for any crimes he may have committed, without naming any.
I think I wouldn't call that number either.
Compartmentalization policy doesn't just concern who can read something, it also applies to allowed venues for transmission of info, where a person can read it, whether any copy can be made or any notes taken, requirements to present credentials at an authorized location to read it, etc. So there are various protocols that can be attached to compartmentalized info. One way to implement SCI is how they allowed the congressmen to read the TPP materials a few months ago. I recall that Rand Paul said he didn't have to sign documents when he read it but a couple of his staffers that read them with him did have to sign off. That was reading in a SCIF room in the Capitol. They have other SCIF rooms for the Intel and Defense committees in House and Senate. But SCI goes well beyond just secured reading rooms at the Capitol. It has wide scope across the government in diplomacy, the military, intel agencies.
I suspect you have zeroed in on SI AND TK, mainly TK. Keyhole is no longer a compartment. Talent Keyhole is an unclassified designator for a collection of other stuff.
So in your opinion is Obama taking out Hillary? Or maybe they will just exhonerate her.
Live it up with the King of the Birthers. Trump immediately claimed credit, see 03:20.
Just the discussion itself can give indicators. It was clear to me what I could discuss in the facility and what could not be discussed outside. We made it a point to not use any indicators outside the facility. I was also told when retiring what I could and could not put on a job resume. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
How in the world did you miss that Trump was a constitutionalist and didn't want a non natural born citizen to be President?
Hopefully the bitch is gang assaulted and she hangs herself up. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
But is it? Can a president pardon himself? In perpetuity? I'd be afraid to bring a case like that to the Supreme Court these days.
You've gone soft, man.
Shit, I'd give her an extra sheet and show her the prison way to do it. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
You have to admit, that first clip of Trump savaging Wolf Blitzer is side-splitting. I start giggling, just listening to him droning on. It's classic double-innuendo Trump. Blitzer sits there looking like someone put a grenade under his ass and pulled the pin.
Yes, the magic words access authorization is very limited. The SCI designator may be accompanied by other caveats or code words which further limit access authorization and restrict handling and storage. After one look at the Guccifer hack, I was wondering how Hillary could possibly hope to maintain her story that she had not handled classified information on the home server, unless she were to say she never received what Blumenthal sent. That's difficult because she forwarded the stuff and a government investigation would certainly find evidence of that.
[H]e shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment. I believe it would be considered implicit that his power did not extend to his own offenses. Close friends and associates whose trial might incriminate him are ok. Bush pardoned an indicted Weinberger preventing a trial. I just don't think SCOTUS would support a self-pardon.
Two reasons: (1) I never paid attention to Trump as a politician before. He was an entertainer, not somebody whose political opinions I thought about. (2) Obama was born of an American mother, and therefore, under the law when he ran for President, was natural born and eligible to be President no matter where he was born. I personally believe that he was born in Kenya, but that didn't make him not a natural born US citizen. Born a US citizen, you're natural born. I've heard the various arguments, but the only one that had any legal merit was the argument that when he was born his mother was not of an age sufficient to convey citizenship, if he were born in Kenya. Obviously if he was born in the USA, per the 14th Amendment he is a natural born citizen regardless of who his parents were, unless they were diplomats with immunity (which they weren't). So to me the interesting legal issue is whether or not the later change to the law, which would make him natural born because his mother was American (assuming he was born in Kenya), would retroactively apply to 1961. If Obama were born in Hawaii, he's natural born. If Obama were born in Kenya to an American mother in 2008, he was natural born. But if Obama were born in Kenya to an American mother in 1961 he was NOT natural born under the laws of the time. So to my eyes it was always a narrow legal question that the court would need to decide: does a change in the citizenship law apply retroactively for the purpose of determining natural born citizenship for Presidential eligibility purposes? The Supreme Court has never answered that question, nor ever come particularly close. They both have and have not applied laws retroactively. So what they would say, if they ever accepted a case, was a jump ball. That's interesting. My own read would be MAYBE NOT. Maybe he wasn't natural born (if he were born in Kenya) because he wasn't born a citizen under the laws at the time of his birth. But I could just as easily see the Court deciding it the other way. The other arguments, about having to have both parents born citizens, or being born on US soil, or whatever, are just silly, with no legal foundation, so I never paid attention to them. I was interested in the degree to which Obama was able to successfully cover up the issue, and to issue a patently false Hawaiian document. The degree of naked, open, brazen fraud was so stunning that it was obvious that he was probably born in Kenya, just like he always said before when he was younger. (Of course HE wouldn't remember either way.) The issue should have been focused upon and politically vetted during the Democrat primary, but it was not. That was interesting. It showed, again, the degree to which extremely powerful people were backing Obama. That he was able to pull it off was educational. But it was what it was, and McCain didn't raise the issue during the election. Hillary didn't. The proper time, place and manner for that was during the election fight. After the election, there was too much power arrayed with the President, so it just became a sort of theoretical. I knew nothing was going to be done about it, so I stopped focusing on it. To find out that Trump was pushing the issue is delightful.
All that loaded on my machine were Tom Cruise videos.
I just saw it. The united front the media and the powerful form was on display there, and now with Trump running for President. It's why it is so important that he win, so that he can use power, and his well known habit of not letting people get away with that crap, to bring them to heel once he's President.
So you did see the two Trump birther vids after all? It may be howlingly funny to watch but it is not presidential stuff. One of the funny bits that Trump loves is just calling in to these news shows by phone, forcing the host to sit there looking like a grinning tool while Donald drones on and on, saying any crap that floats through his head. Apparently, you entirely missed this entire episode of Trumporama. They refer to Trump's investigators. Trump started this off by saying he was going to hire investigators to get that long-form BC. Then he hooked up with Sheriff Joe who provided him with a posse of Arpaio's top retired deputies. Top men, of course. That's who they mean why they refer to Trump's investigators. The whole thing was ridiculous but it seems that the Taitz Birthers harped about it long enough that Trump's entry finally got the WH to release the Obama BC. Or the Photoshop forgery of the Obama BC, depending on who you ask. Don't worry. I'm sure the upcoming debates and interviews will revisit The Donald and The Birth Certificate.
First video...HILARIOUS! LOL Trump goes for Wolf's throat with the poor ratings jab. That really made Blitzer turn three shades of purple:) "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Maybe a Trump-Whoopie Goldberg Lincoln-Douglas debate is in order. I would watch it on pay per view.
"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
I think it is. The President I have in mind is Andrew Jackson. I like Andrew Jackson's attitude. I like Andrew Johnson a lot too - his attitude saved the Constitution. He broke the law and saved the Constitution. The people who are "Presidential" are eunuchs and bought men. They have delivered us into disaster. I like Sarah Palin because she was not that. I like Trump for the same reason. And so do millions of others. Right now, there's somebody who will cause me to vote Republican. In fact, if Donald is the nominee and asks me to vote for the local Republicans to give him power, to do what he can do, I may even do that, for once, to give him the chance. I'll want to see him hung up by his entrails if he betrays me. But he's not going to betray me. I can tell. Trump fights. He can win. And with power, he will change some things. Not everything, but some things. And he will drive some people mental. And that will make me happy. Trump makes me happy with politics for the first time since…well…since we'd won the Cold War and Bush hadn't raised taxes yet.
Only small parts. The whole birthed business doesn't interest me much.
LOL Trump goes for Wolf's throat with the poor ratings jab. That really made Blitzer turn three shades of purple:) Come on. It's sheer torture. I think that interview violated the Geneva Conventions. And the way Trump forces Blitzer to sit there with that little shit-eating grin as Trump insults him and forces him to talk about Obama's birth certificate. Notice how Blitzer is trying to remind Trump they have a long relationship ("Nice doggie...nice doggie...")...do you seriously expect this country to put up with 4-8 years of that? Trump pulled 2 no-show phone interviews with CNN and one of the other networks just this weekend. And they agree just to get him on the air, knowing he can humiliate them at will. You realize, no doubt, this is why he marries these foreign women. The marriages generally last until they learn to understand English conversationally and finally realize what Trump is saying to them. : )
Andrew Jackson was always up for a caning. Especially if you shot him, supposedly.
Intel IG Memo of 11 August 2015: The document page as shown is incomplete. The UNCLASSIFIED upon removal of attachments documentation is at the bottom of page 1 and the DISTRIBUTION is on page 2. I suppose the intelligence agency did not have to divulge the level and category of information that had been divulged, and TOP SECRET//SI/TK//NOFORN say a lot to some, but then I suppose the administration did not have to grant parole to Jonathan Pollard at the minimum mandatory time either. The link for the document goes to the account of Senator Chuck Grassley. Complete document here At the bottom of page 1: TOP SECRET//SI/TK//NOFORN
absolutely ! It's never a good sign when the FBI is seizing property from you. General Petraeus was indicted for much less than what they've ALREADY found on Evita's email server . This tells me that the emperor is ready to throw Evita under the bus . But when push comes to shove ;will she remain silent about what she knows about the White House involvement in Benghazi ? Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
It may be that Obama planned all along to made Hitlery the patsy for all of his foreign policy disasters. Once the Xlintons know that that is his intention, they'll suddenly decide they want to spend more time with their family or develop some medical problem. Then Bammy can soft-pedal the server scandal, have DoJ sanitize the evidence, and issue a pardon before he leaves office.
SHE was the Secretary of State. Foreign policy was her bailiwick. Sure, the buck stops with the President, but he's not running for office. She is. And if the Sec State withholds information from the President and doesn't give him the full picture, he can't very well make good decisions And Biden had nothing to do with any of it. Also, if she goes after Barack Obama, TODAY he controls the Attorney General that will prosecute her and perhaps literally put her in jail, or not. And HE ALONE holds the pardon pen that can let her off the hook if she goes quietly. He's going to strip her of her Presidential bid using this investigation, and then pardon her at the end, after Biden wins the election (which will happen if the GOP doesn't nominate Trump). But if she goes after him, he will nail her to the wall and not pardon her. Obama has all the cards, and Hillary will fall in line or wear orange.
OR, she could wear a pine box. Si vis pacem, para bellum
Lets hope so! Si vis pacem, para bellum
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#29. To: A K A Stone (#18)
You can't pardon someone before they are convicted. At least I don't think you can.
#30. To: A K A Stone (#18)
You can't pardon someone before they are convicted. At least I don't think you can.
#31. To: redleghunter (#26)
It took him 4 years to produce a birth certificate and there are so many holes in his timeline from HS age to the 90s. Wonder who did the background check on him for his clearance?
#32. To: TooConservative (#19)
#33. To: redleghunter (#32)
I hope AoS moves their "virtual" location. They had some comments up there they should have never posted.
#34. To: TooConservative (#19)
[Article] The inspector general for the Intelligence Community notified senior members of Congress that two of four classified emails discovered on the server Clinton maintained at her New York home contained material deemed to be in one of the highest security classifications -- more sensitive than previously known.
Nolu, you really should call the IG's office with some questions at the number listed.
#35. To: redleghunter (#23)
I guess the FBI will have to travel to Moscow and Beijing to get some signed:)
#36. To: TooConservative (#31)
Trump is King of the Birthers.
#37. To: TooConservative, A K A Stone (#29)
#38. To: nolu chan (#34)
This is way above the IG. I don't want to get anywhere near this shitstorm.
#39. To: nolu chan, redleghunter (#34)
SCI is not a classification but a designator for Secret Compartmented Information.
#40. To: redleghunter, TooConservative (#32)
They had some comments up there they should have never posted.
#41. To: nolu chan (#40)
#42. To: Vicomte13 (#36)
Forget? I didn't know. Now I like him better.
#43. To: nolu chan (#40)
#44. To: Vicomte13 (#36)
#45. To: cranky (#0)
Hillary Clinton is going to prison
#46. To: nolu chan (#37)
Essentially, the President's pardon power is plenary, i.e., without limit. Nixon was pardoned for any crimes he may have committed, without naming any.
#47. To: GrandIsland (#45)
Hopefully the bitch is gang assaulted and she hangs herself up.
#48. To: TooConservative (#47)
You've gone soft, man.
#49. To: Vicomte13 (#36)
#50. To: TooConservative, redleghunter (#39)
Compartmentalization policy doesn't just concern who can read something, it also applies to allowed venues for transmission of info, where a person can read it, whether any copy can be made or any notes taken, requirements to present credentials at an authorized location to read it, etc.
#51. To: TooConservative (#46)
Can a president pardon himself? In perpetuity?
#52. To: A K A Stone (#44)
How in the world did you miss that Trump was a constitutionalist and didn't want a non natural born citizen to be President?
#53. To: TooConservative (#49)
You have to admit, that first clip of Trump savaging Wolf Blitzer is side-splitting. I start giggling, just listening to him droning on. It's classic double-innuendo Trump. Blitzer sits there looking like someone put a grenade under his ass and pulled the pin.
#54. To: TooConservative (#49)
#55. To: Vicomte13 (#53)
All that loaded on my machine were Tom Cruise videos. ... I just saw it. The united front the media and the powerful form was on display there, and now with Trump running for President.
#56. To: TooConservative (#42)
#57. To: TooConservative (#55)
#58. To: TooConservative (#55)
It may be howlingly funny to watch but it is not presidential stuff.
#59. To: TooConservative (#55)
So you did see the two Trump birther vids after all?
#60. To: redleghunter (#56)
First video...HILARIOUS!
#61. To: Vicomte13 (#58)
I think it is. The President I have in mind is Andrew Jackson. I like Andrew Jackson's attitude.
#62. To: TooConservative, redleghunter (#19)
Classified By: 2361481
Derived From: CIA SCG dated 20060531, NGA SCG dated 20080924, ODNI SEC S-14
Declassify On: 20401231
Upon removal of attachments, this document is UNCLASSIFIED
#63. To: TooConservative, Redleghunter (#19)
Is this the Betrayal Of Hitlery that Vic has prayed for, to be shortly followed by Biden entering the race?
#64. To: redleghunter (#26)
Wonder who did the background check on him for his clearance?
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#65. To: tomder55 (#63)
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This tells me that the emperor is ready to throw Evita under the bus . But when push comes to shove ;will she remain silent about what she knows about the White House involvement in Benghazi ?
#66. To: tomder55 (#63)
This tells me that the emperor is ready to throw Evita under the bus . But when push comes to shove ;will she remain silent about what she knows about the White House involvement in Benghazi ?
#67. To: Vicomte13 (#66)
" Obama has all the cards, and Hillary will fall in line or wear orange. "
#68. To: cranky (#0)
" Hillary Clinton May Go to Prison "
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