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Title: Hillary Clinton May Go to Prison
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URL Source: http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern ... lary-clinton-may-go-to-prison/
Published: Aug 11, 2015
Author: Joel B. Pollak
Post Date: 2015-08-11 20:17:55 by cranky
Keywords: None
Views: 8262
Comments: 75
According to Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA), at least two of the emails contained “Top Secret, Sensitive Compartmented Information.” An ordinary person–or even a well-known leader like General David Petraeus–would be prosecuted for moving classified information onto a private system. And that is just the beginning of her legal problems. Clinton not only allegedly exchanged classified information via private e-mail, but also destroyed her emails before handing them over to the State Department before the government could determine for itself which were personal and which were job-related. That could constitute a felony, with a three-year prison sentence attached. And that is just the beginning of what is known. It is worth noting, too, that much of the information emerging on Hillary Clinton first emerged from three sources: the Benghazi select committee, which the left attempted to dismiss; the independent Judicial Watch organization, which submitted key Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests; and the thorough research of Peter Schweizer, who documented Clinton’s alleged conflicts of interests. This time, the Clinton magic may not be able to save her. 
Hillary Clinton is going to prison–or would be, if she were an ordinary prison. The FBI has reportedly taken possession of the emails on her home computer server, according to U.S. officials cited by the Associated Press.
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#14. To: buckeroo (#11)
Good one, Bucky. This server, flash drive stuff is just theatrics for the masses. If she got elected to the office of NY Senator, she can get away with anything. Just my observation and opinion.
Thanks Buckaroo
Si vis pacem, para bellum
No, I did not, but I guess I should have. Thanks for your pictures. Lets hope it becomes reality, but at this point in time, I doubt it will. She still has all of those FBI files to blackmail with. Si vis pacem, para bellum
I fully agree about not only her Hindass corruption but the US government, as well, in all of this subterfuge. She is GODDAMNED TERRORIST.
You can't pardon someone before they are convicted. At least I don't think you can. Trump gets in and she will go to prison.
AoS was getting into the classification system. The inspector general for the Intelligence Community notified senior members of Congress that two of four classified emails discovered on the server Clinton maintained at her New York home contained material deemed to be in one of the highest security classifications -- more sensitive than previously known. UPDATE: AP: FBI "TAKES POSSESSION" OF HILLARY'S SERVER, LAWYER'S THUMB DRIVE: The media's silence on this will be spectacular. The official is not authorized to be quoted by name and requested anonymity. Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley says two of the emails, which traversed Clinton's insecure home email server, were deemed "Top Secret, Sensitive Compartmented Information." That’s one of the government's highest classifications. That is indeed one of the highest level of classification. I think the only higher levels are levels of classification you're not even permitted to know the names of. This compartmentalized information is what is called Codeword Clearance, I think: You have to be cleared by a special codeword to see the information. That is, it's not just top secret; it's like top secret/GOLDEN TEMPLE, with "GOLDEN TEMPLE" being the codeword of the compartment of information. You don't just need a Top Secret clearance to see it -- you have to be cleared specifically for GOLDEN TEMPLE information. So this is either the highest level of classified information, or the highest we know about. (Daniel Moynihan spoke of there being a higher level he couldn't even mention in a 60 Minutes interview.) Update: KG, who sounds like he knows what he's talking about, writes: Hillary better be prosecuted for this. If she isn't, it is maddening and, personally, I think the whole system collapses. How could you prosecute someone else for a lesser offense after letting Hillary go. She is in deep doo-doo and must've believed herself untouchable due to her 'Clinton' name. This is jail-worthy stuff. Update: The articles confused me speaking of both "Hillary's server" and a "private email account." I wrote the emails were in Hillary's private emails. AllahPundit suggests otherwise: he says that the emails were on her servers, in private emails used by her aids and such, and thus, in a way, "her accounts," but not actually her accounts. Like one of her henchmen's accounts. I will go with Allah's more cautious reading for now. I have corrected the headline and article to reflect this nuance. More: TS = TOPSECRET SI = Special Intelligence (SIGINT) TK = TALENT KEYHOLE (from satellites) NF = NOFORN (US eyes only) pic.twitter.com/WpLM9Aua9I— John Schindler (@20committee) August 11, 2015 I believe, from Wikipedia, that SI/TK are sorts of SCI information, but I'm not sure. Confirmed: Schindler says yes, SI and TK are specific codewords in the SCI classification system. As you can see, SI = Special Intelligence and refers to signals intelligence (radio, telephone intercepts); TK = Target Keyhole and refers to satellite intelligence. "NOFORN" means "NO FOReign Nationals," i.e., US citizens only, no sharing with foreign counterparts. Whoops! Guess that last one's out the window! @AceofSpadesHQ pic.twitter.com/kSLT7eg1Rq— Sarah Stevenson (@sarahrstevenson) August 11, 2015 Nolu, you really should call the IG's office with some questions at the number listed. I'll bet you have some doozies. : )
How do you know? Did he tell you and you have evidence to present to us?
You really underestimate the Clintons. They have dirt on everyone in DC. Look for some Dem Senators to after the Clintons only to have an equal amount of GOP senators to start backing off them. That is called the Potomac two step. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
I can only imagine what's on the thumb drive. Not to mention no classified anything is allowed on thumb drives now. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
I guess the FBI will have to travel to Moscow and Beijing to get some signed:) "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
My observation and understanding of the political scene is unmatched. While you and so called experts were saying Trump would go nowhere and wouldn't even meet the requirements for the main debate. I told you different. In other words I'm smarter then you are. That is why you are on my site and I'm not on yours. :)
Did you ever state that you voted for McCain as POTUS?
About half the politicians in Washington DC would not qualify for TS SCI clearance if they held the same standard as they did for us. You know the questions on foreign travel, foreign acquaintances, MONEY (read debt, foreclosures etc.) Not to mention sexual harassment, abuse, and assault. Half the people in elected office would fail the NORMAL requirements. That's what makes this such a farce. Just look at Obolo. It took him 4 years to produce a birth certificate and there are so many holes in his timeline from HS age to the 90s. Wonder who did the background check on him for his clearance? "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
LOL buck that didn't take long to find:)
"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
seconds actually. Stoner asked and I complied for cheap. :)
Annoyingly, a president has broad discretion in pardons. Including pre-emptive pardons. You recall that Ford gave a "full, free and unconditional pardon" to Nixon on 9/8/74. The classic case. Wiki: List of people pardoned or granted clemency by the President of the United States Obola's list is pretty short, meaning he is cooking up a real doozy of an outbound pardon. Mass mass pardons for illegals or for non-violent drug offenders. Something big. It would be consistent with his low character and craving for some durable achievement, anything really.
Trump gets in and she will go to prison. Yes you can. Ford pardoned Nixon before he was even indicted.
Maybe it was Trump. You recall his yuge investigation with a posse of retired former deputies of Sheriff Joe, looking into that mysterious birth certificate. If Oily Taitz is queen of the Birthers, then Trump is King of the Birthers. Funny how some people seem to forget this stuff so quickly. They're like children.
I hope AoS moves their "virtual" location. They had some comments up there they should have never posted.
"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
I didn't read their comments. I also didn't read your comment about their comments and have no idea what you're talking about. I know nothing. I really just mindlessly post this stuff without ever reading it at all. I am barely literate to begin with. Finally: I...did not...have sex with that AoS server. : )
There are only three classifications: Confidential, Secret, and Top Secret. A security clearance does not give access to anything. It only makes one eligible for a grant of access. The responsible official can grant access authorization to subordinates on a need-to-know basis. According the to book, nobody has any level of access based on their position (except maybe the President?). SCI is not a classification but a designator for Secret Compartmented Information. Indicators such as NOFORN (No Foreign Nationals) and LIMDIS (Limited Distribution) are caveats. Each limits access to the information. SCI is extremely limited outside of the intelligence community. On that last 11 August 2015 Memo: TOP SECRET/SI/TK/NOFORN Top Secret, Special Intelligence, Talent Keyhole, No Foreign Nationals This is way above the IG. I don't want to get anywhere near this shitstorm.
Unlike the Petraeus compromise, this one is untrackable. Basically, everything must be assumed compromised due to hacking, and known compromised due to mishandling resulting in unauthorized distribution. Sidney Blumenthal and his source may also have a problem.
Funny how some people seem to forget this stuff so quickly. They're like children. Forget? I didn't know. Now I like him better. Obama was probably born in Kenya. He's a citizen by birth, probably, because of his mother, and therefore "natural born", but that issue should have been vetted by the public in the electoral cycle, but was instead squashed. I'm glad that Trump did not let it go, if what you say is true. What a mensch!
Essentially, the President's pardon power is plenary, i.e., without limit. Nixon was pardoned for any crimes he may have committed, without naming any.
I think I wouldn't call that number either.
Compartmentalization policy doesn't just concern who can read something, it also applies to allowed venues for transmission of info, where a person can read it, whether any copy can be made or any notes taken, requirements to present credentials at an authorized location to read it, etc. So there are various protocols that can be attached to compartmentalized info. One way to implement SCI is how they allowed the congressmen to read the TPP materials a few months ago. I recall that Rand Paul said he didn't have to sign documents when he read it but a couple of his staffers that read them with him did have to sign off. That was reading in a SCIF room in the Capitol. They have other SCIF rooms for the Intel and Defense committees in House and Senate. But SCI goes well beyond just secured reading rooms at the Capitol. It has wide scope across the government in diplomacy, the military, intel agencies.
I suspect you have zeroed in on SI AND TK, mainly TK. Keyhole is no longer a compartment. Talent Keyhole is an unclassified designator for a collection of other stuff.
So in your opinion is Obama taking out Hillary? Or maybe they will just exhonerate her.
Live it up with the King of the Birthers. Trump immediately claimed credit, see 03:20.
Just the discussion itself can give indicators. It was clear to me what I could discuss in the facility and what could not be discussed outside. We made it a point to not use any indicators outside the facility. I was also told when retiring what I could and could not put on a job resume. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
How in the world did you miss that Trump was a constitutionalist and didn't want a non natural born citizen to be President?
Hopefully the bitch is gang assaulted and she hangs herself up. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
But is it? Can a president pardon himself? In perpetuity? I'd be afraid to bring a case like that to the Supreme Court these days.
You've gone soft, man.
Shit, I'd give her an extra sheet and show her the prison way to do it. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
You have to admit, that first clip of Trump savaging Wolf Blitzer is side-splitting. I start giggling, just listening to him droning on. It's classic double-innuendo Trump. Blitzer sits there looking like someone put a grenade under his ass and pulled the pin.
Yes, the magic words access authorization is very limited. The SCI designator may be accompanied by other caveats or code words which further limit access authorization and restrict handling and storage. After one look at the Guccifer hack, I was wondering how Hillary could possibly hope to maintain her story that she had not handled classified information on the home server, unless she were to say she never received what Blumenthal sent. That's difficult because she forwarded the stuff and a government investigation would certainly find evidence of that.
[H]e shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment. I believe it would be considered implicit that his power did not extend to his own offenses. Close friends and associates whose trial might incriminate him are ok. Bush pardoned an indicted Weinberger preventing a trial. I just don't think SCOTUS would support a self-pardon.
Two reasons: (1) I never paid attention to Trump as a politician before. He was an entertainer, not somebody whose political opinions I thought about. (2) Obama was born of an American mother, and therefore, under the law when he ran for President, was natural born and eligible to be President no matter where he was born. I personally believe that he was born in Kenya, but that didn't make him not a natural born US citizen. Born a US citizen, you're natural born. I've heard the various arguments, but the only one that had any legal merit was the argument that when he was born his mother was not of an age sufficient to convey citizenship, if he were born in Kenya. Obviously if he was born in the USA, per the 14th Amendment he is a natural born citizen regardless of who his parents were, unless they were diplomats with immunity (which they weren't). So to me the interesting legal issue is whether or not the later change to the law, which would make him natural born because his mother was American (assuming he was born in Kenya), would retroactively apply to 1961. If Obama were born in Hawaii, he's natural born. If Obama were born in Kenya to an American mother in 2008, he was natural born. But if Obama were born in Kenya to an American mother in 1961 he was NOT natural born under the laws of the time. So to my eyes it was always a narrow legal question that the court would need to decide: does a change in the citizenship law apply retroactively for the purpose of determining natural born citizenship for Presidential eligibility purposes? The Supreme Court has never answered that question, nor ever come particularly close. They both have and have not applied laws retroactively. So what they would say, if they ever accepted a case, was a jump ball. That's interesting. My own read would be MAYBE NOT. Maybe he wasn't natural born (if he were born in Kenya) because he wasn't born a citizen under the laws at the time of his birth. But I could just as easily see the Court deciding it the other way. The other arguments, about having to have both parents born citizens, or being born on US soil, or whatever, are just silly, with no legal foundation, so I never paid attention to them. I was interested in the degree to which Obama was able to successfully cover up the issue, and to issue a patently false Hawaiian document. The degree of naked, open, brazen fraud was so stunning that it was obvious that he was probably born in Kenya, just like he always said before when he was younger. (Of course HE wouldn't remember either way.) The issue should have been focused upon and politically vetted during the Democrat primary, but it was not. That was interesting. It showed, again, the degree to which extremely powerful people were backing Obama. That he was able to pull it off was educational. But it was what it was, and McCain didn't raise the issue during the election. Hillary didn't. The proper time, place and manner for that was during the election fight. After the election, there was too much power arrayed with the President, so it just became a sort of theoretical. I knew nothing was going to be done about it, so I stopped focusing on it. To find out that Trump was pushing the issue is delightful.
All that loaded on my machine were Tom Cruise videos.
I just saw it. The united front the media and the powerful form was on display there, and now with Trump running for President. It's why it is so important that he win, so that he can use power, and his well known habit of not letting people get away with that crap, to bring them to heel once he's President.
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#15. To: buckeroo (#11)
#16. To: TooConservative (#13)
" I hope you know it's been done to death already. "
#17. To: Fred Mertz (#14)
If she got elected to the office of NY Senator, she can get away with anything.
#18. To: Vicomte13 (#1)
#19. To: nolu chan, redleghunter, Vicomte13 (#12)
UPDATE: FBI SEIZES HILLARY'S THUMB DRIVES
Top Secret Emails Found In Private Accounts Run Through Hillary's Private Servers —Ace
As pressure builds on Hillary Clinton to explain her official use of personal email while serving as secretary of state, she faced new complications Tuesday. It was disclosed her top aides are being drawn into a burgeoning federal inquiry and that two emails on her private account have been classified as “Top Secret.”
WASHINGTON (AP) -- A U.S. official says the FBI has taken possession of Hillary Rodham Clinton's emails, a few of which have been deemed to contain classified information.
The official says the FBI recovered two thumb drives containing the emails from Clinton’s lawyer, David Kendall. Compartmentalized means you have to be 'read in' to that particular information.. you sit in a SCIF [I believe this is a room where you can read the secret information, but are not permitted to take notes or remove it; this is the "skiff" you hear about Congressmen reading the TPP info in--ace] of some kind, someone who is cleared to handle the information hands it to you, you read through it and then sign some paper work. You then are 'cleared' to read material with that particular code word. So, in other words, just because you have a TOP SECRET clearance does not mean you have access to any and all TOP SECRET classified material. Most TOP SECRET material has one or several code words attached to it. That way, only the people with 'need-to-know' have access and it limits the vulnerability of the information.
That last tweeted image was this juicy bombshell.
Is this the Betrayal Of Hitlery that Vic has prayed for, to be shortly followed by Biden entering the race?
#20. To: A K A Stone (#18)
Trump gets in and she [Hillary] will go to prison.
#21. To: Vicomte13 (#1)
#22. To: nolu chan (#2)
I heard on Fox that the FBI has seized her server and the thumb drive.
#23. To: nolu chan (#4)
The authorities, for Hillary the FBI or DIA, show up in a hurry to track down anyone who could possibly have seen or learned of the information, and then get non-disclosure agreements signed by each and all of them. That is just for the innocent people with Top Secret clearances (but not SCI access authorization). In Hillary's case, as she took no effort to protect the stuff, but forwarded it without markings. It's a mess.
#24. To: buckeroo (#20)
(Edited)
How do you know? Did he tell you and you have evidence to present to us?
#25. To: A K A Stone (#24)
My observation and understanding of the political scene is unmatched.
#26. To: nolu chan, TooConservative, GarySpFc, liberator, Vicomte13, tomder55, CZ82 (#9)
I wonder how they handle a loss of security clearance or SCI access for a presidential candidate, or a president in office.
#27. To: buckeroo (#11)
#28. To: redleghunter, Stoner (#27)
#29. To: A K A Stone (#18)
You can't pardon someone before they are convicted. At least I don't think you can.
#30. To: A K A Stone (#18)
You can't pardon someone before they are convicted. At least I don't think you can.
#31. To: redleghunter (#26)
It took him 4 years to produce a birth certificate and there are so many holes in his timeline from HS age to the 90s. Wonder who did the background check on him for his clearance?
#32. To: TooConservative (#19)
#33. To: redleghunter (#32)
I hope AoS moves their "virtual" location. They had some comments up there they should have never posted.
#34. To: TooConservative (#19)
[Article] The inspector general for the Intelligence Community notified senior members of Congress that two of four classified emails discovered on the server Clinton maintained at her New York home contained material deemed to be in one of the highest security classifications -- more sensitive than previously known.
Nolu, you really should call the IG's office with some questions at the number listed.
#35. To: redleghunter (#23)
I guess the FBI will have to travel to Moscow and Beijing to get some signed:)
#36. To: TooConservative (#31)
Trump is King of the Birthers.
#37. To: TooConservative, A K A Stone (#29)
#38. To: nolu chan (#34)
This is way above the IG. I don't want to get anywhere near this shitstorm.
#39. To: nolu chan, redleghunter (#34)
SCI is not a classification but a designator for Secret Compartmented Information.
#40. To: redleghunter, TooConservative (#32)
They had some comments up there they should have never posted.
#41. To: nolu chan (#40)
#42. To: Vicomte13 (#36)
Forget? I didn't know. Now I like him better.
#43. To: nolu chan (#40)
#44. To: Vicomte13 (#36)
#45. To: cranky (#0)
Hillary Clinton is going to prison
#46. To: nolu chan (#37)
Essentially, the President's pardon power is plenary, i.e., without limit. Nixon was pardoned for any crimes he may have committed, without naming any.
#47. To: GrandIsland (#45)
Hopefully the bitch is gang assaulted and she hangs herself up.
#48. To: TooConservative (#47)
You've gone soft, man.
#49. To: Vicomte13 (#36)
#50. To: TooConservative, redleghunter (#39)
Compartmentalization policy doesn't just concern who can read something, it also applies to allowed venues for transmission of info, where a person can read it, whether any copy can be made or any notes taken, requirements to present credentials at an authorized location to read it, etc.
#51. To: TooConservative (#46)
Can a president pardon himself? In perpetuity?
#52. To: A K A Stone (#44)
How in the world did you miss that Trump was a constitutionalist and didn't want a non natural born citizen to be President?
#53. To: TooConservative (#49)
You have to admit, that first clip of Trump savaging Wolf Blitzer is side-splitting. I start giggling, just listening to him droning on. It's classic double-innuendo Trump. Blitzer sits there looking like someone put a grenade under his ass and pulled the pin.
#54. To: TooConservative (#49)
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