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Title: Moms and young children from Texas ranch to be parted
Source: Reuters
URL Source: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080420/D905JBV00.html
Published: Apr 20, 2008
Author: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080420
Post Date: 2008-04-20 15:03:06 by A K A Stone
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Comments: 14

SAN ANGELO, Texas (AP) - Adult mothers who have been allowed to stay with their young children since they were taken from a polygamous sect will be separated from them after DNA sampling is completed next week, a child welfare official said Saturday.

State District Judge Barbara Walther late Friday ordered that parents and children of the Yearning For Zion Ranch submit DNA samples to help sort out family relationships that have confounded authorities since 416 children were taken into state custody two weeks ago.

Sampling is to begin Monday and will probably take several days to complete, said Darrell Azar, a spokesman for Child Protective Services. Results could take more than a month.

Once sampling is complete, the agency will begin moving the children from the San Angelo coliseum and fairgrounds to other sites.

(AP) Map locates a selection of U.S. polygamist compounds, including Eldorado, Texas; 2c x 3 1/2 inches;... Full Image Child welfare officials allowed adult mothers with children ages 4 and younger to stay together when the state took custody of the rest of the children from the ranch. Now, only mothers younger than 18 will be allowed to remain with their children once the sampling is complete. The welfare agency will also try to keep siblings together, he said.

"We're going to make these transitions as easy as possible," Azar said. "We want to keep them together as much as possible so they don't feel they're completely isolated from their culture or the people they know."

Child welfare officials have said figuring out how sect members are related has been difficult because of evasive or changing answers members have given them.

Families that include half brothers and sisters, and those that include reportedly married first cousins, can be particularly challenging to unravel. Dr. Arthur Beaudet, chairman of the Department of Molecular and Human Genetics at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston, said DNA testing can easily deal with these types of complexities.

"It's reasonable to say the information (from testing) will give full proof documentation" as to which parents belong to which children, he said.

Although the many unique family ties found in the sect will probably add a level of difficulty for DNA analysts in determining parentage, Beaudet said, the added complexity is still "not a significant concern."

A certain number of DNA markers - segments of the DNA with specific genetic characteristics - are tested to determine whether two people are related. Beaudet said that if any uncertainties arise, analysts simply test additional markers.

More than 400 children will be tested, but officials have not said how many adults will be tested. Such a considerable amount of DNA testing is not new but is usually associated with trying to identify victims of mass violence or natural disasters.

Walther on Friday continued an emergency order giving the state custody of the children after a sometimes chaotic two-day hearing in which the state argued that the teachings of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints jeopardized children.

The child welfare agency has said that the sect encourages adolescent girls to marry older men and have children, and that boys are groomed to become future perpetrators. Sect members deny the allegations.

Individual hearings will be set for the children over the next several weeks, and the judge will determine whether they are moved into permanent foster care or can be returned to their parents. All of the hearings must be held by June 5.

The custody case is one of the nation's largest and most complicated. The ruling Friday capped two days of testimony that sometimes became disorderly as hundreds of lawyers for children and parents competed to defend their clients in two rooms linked by a video feed.

The April 3 raid on the Yearning For Zion Ranch was prompted by a call made to a family violence shelter, purportedly by a 16-year-old girl who said her 50-year-old husband beat and raped her. That girl has never been identified.


Poster Comment:

This is unconstitutional. It is also evil. The government is not our master. They don't own us. You aren't supposed to have to testify against yourself. Forcing DNA tests is nothing but pure evil. Once the government has this information. How are these people assured that their data wont be shared. DNA is the property of the person whose DNA it is.

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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)

This is unconstitutional. It is also evil.

What is 'evil' are the practices by Rulon Jeffs down through Warren Jeffs.

Ever wonder why those people all LOOK ALIKE - the gene pool has been diminished with cousins marrying!

Ever heard the term 'The Lost Boys"?

Let's "Look it up" shall we?

Search term = "The Lost Boys" Jeffs

From: "The Forgotten Children of the FLDS Polygamist Group, The Lost Boys"

While people are claiming such outrage over 416 children removed from the FLDS compound and the mothers are going to the press to shed tears and act like victims, everyone seems to forget the other children of the FLDS... The Lost Boys. While it is difficult to estimate the exact number of young boys, some only 13 years of age, rough estimates have the number at 400 to as many as 1,400 young boys have been put on to the streets after having been thrown out of the FLDS for a variety of reasons, some as little as kissing a girl, or wearing a short sleeved shirt.

The Lost Boys.

The mothers say the boys are "dead" to them, because the "prophet" has decided they are no longer a member of the family.

Most of the Lost Boys are between the ages of 13 and 21 when banished from or pressured to leave compounds such as the Yearning for Zion (YFZ) Ranch.

They were raised to fear the outside world, fear authorities and have a very limited education, but because men in the FLDS sect must have at least three wives, the women to men ratio wouldn't allow for that if the boy children were all allowed to stay and with some of the FLDS men having up to 10 wives, that makes it even more necessary to send these children packing, out into a world they have been taught to fear, to sleep on the street.

One of these boys, named Franky, says, "How a father or a mother can suddenly take a child and kick them out and never speak with them again, that's just unbelievable."

Another of those boys is Gideon Barlow, who says he arrived in this strange world as an orphan from another world, at the age of 16.

MORE, see: http://wwwwakeupamericans-spree. blogspot.com/2008/04/forgotten-children-of-flds-polygamist.html

Stone, I know you and your cadre are immume to reading this material, but hopefully you won't suck too many others down the hole with you ...

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#2. To: _Jim (#1)

I don't know what was going on at that "compound". Maybe some bad stuff, maybe not.

A K A Stone  posted on  2008-04-20   18:28:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#3. To: A K A Stone (#2)

I don't know what was going on at that "compound".

What??? Are your 'handlers' restricting your internet access to just a few web sites?

There are a number of accounts 'life' in a FLDS community/cult from those who were either expelled (like "The Lost Boys") or fled (like Carolyn Jessop).

ANd how come we never see THE MEN at those press conferences, we only see women who seize up when the questions turn to other, possibly 'revealing' questions about life inside the cult -er- community?

_Jim  posted on  2008-04-20 19:05:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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