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Title: Icahn: Sure, Trump—let's do this
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URL Source: http://www.cnbc.com/everett-rosenfeld/
Published: Aug 10, 2015
Author: Everett Rosenfeld
Post Date: 2015-08-10 20:36:57 by A K A Stone
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Views: 1471
Comments: 21
Pundits have largely deemed Thursday's debate a misstep for real estate mogul Donald Trump, but he may have won over billionaire investor Carl Icahn. The activist investor tweeted Friday afternoon that he had decided to accept a Trump offer for Treasury secretary. Still, he noted that "the methods of electing our corporate and political leaders have become completely dysfunctional."
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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)
He would be a good man to be in Trump's Cabinet. Si vis pacem, para bellum
Boom! Trump! Icahn! Yes, they are billionaires. But then, everybody up on that stage was a millionaire. So it's rich folks against richer folks. The richer folks have a freer hand. Politics is all corrupted by money anyway. So cut out the middlemen, who are faithless to everybody, and get some ballbreakers like Trump in there. I'm for him.
You're embarrassing yourself, Champion of the Poor. Do you actually have any principles at all?
Apparently you think I should be embarrassed. I see no reason to be. I have often stated my principles. You don't state yours.
At least we have finally found the one Republican tycoon you're willing to fight to the death for, loathsome as he is. Your "principles" keep changing. Pining for Biden to win last week, swooning over the manliness of Donald Trump this week... This is not a picture of principles or consistency.
OK TC. It is obvious that you are not a Trump supporter. To be honest, who do you support at this point in time? Si vis pacem, para bellum
To be honest, who do you support at this point in time? I asked him that a few weeks ago. He mentioned Rick Perry. In state tuition Rick Perry. I think he said he would vote for Bush too. Bush wasn't his first choice though. He also likes Hillary better the Trump. I say that because he said if Trump gets the nomination he couldn't see himself voting for him.
You've been sayin ad naseum that Trump isn't a Republican.
I'm tempted to say anybody-but-Trump, much as the 2012 GOP primary was an anybody-but-Romney exercise in futility. But I still like Rand best, mostly because the GOP is too religious and too ready to warmonger. It is a party that is too old and too white to survive as it is. Only Rand is going for the younger voters and the non-white voters. I noticed in post-debate interviews with the audience, the only two blacks who were asked said they support Rand. I think Rand is a hard sell overall. He doesn't debate well for one thing. So I am looking at Walker as the next best choice to stop Bush from prevailing with his deep pockets and deep party elite support. Walker, last I heard, is still the Tea folk's choice too. The GOP has to grow beyond whites over 50 and very religious younger people.
Certainly, he is no conservative. He's an opportunistic Republican, depending on how much he can get out of it. And you? Are you a Republican or are you willing to let some liberal New York tycoon participate in the GOP nomination process and then decide he isn't a Republican after all and sail off on his yacht to run third party, giving Hitlery a free ride into the White House where her appointments to the Court will cement the Left's agenda into the Constitution?
Wow I've been on here for like 10 minutes and you already flip flopped 3 times. Amazingly inconsistent.
You really have a problem with reading comprehension. Are you getting up there in years? Have the arterioles in your brain ossified? Do the cataracts affect your ability to read written words? Seriously. What I said about Biden was this: He's a babykiller, a conflicted Catholic. I won't be voting for him. I also said that the Democrats will have a nominee, and they will probably win. The seven dwarves that the Republicans are offering up cannot beat the Democrat this time. Trump could, but Republicans like you will not let Trump into the Republican boardroom. So, you're going to get a boring Bush, or a dull Scott Walker, and you're going to lose. Because the Democrat will probably win the election, it matters to everybody, even you Republicans, just exactly WHO the Democrat is. And if you have a choice, Joe Biden is a whole lot less obnoxious and terrifying than Hillary Clinton. Biden is an affable fellow who is prone to funny gaffes. Hillary Clinton murders people who get in her way. If you Republicans run Trump, you will beat whoever the Democrat is and not have to worry about it. But you're hellbent for leather against Trump. Therefore, you're going to name some colorless schmuck and you're going to lose the election and get a Democrat. It matters to us all WHICH Democrat, and given that reality, I'd MUCH rather have Biden than Hillary. That's what I said. I repeated it a few times. You saw that, and you saw it again. If you get out of that that I am "pining for Biden to win", then you are losing your mental faculties and should see a doctor to check to see if you're developing a brain tumor.
First off he isn't liberal. Bush and Hillary are best buds. He gave her a freedom award or some crap like that. Barbara said they are like family, the Clintons. Foreign policy Bush and Clinton are 99 percent identical. Trump is different then them by a mile. So if it is Bush vs Clinton I pray Trump runs. I'll vote for him. If it is Cruz vs Clinton. I don't think Trump would go third party. I don't believe in loyalty oaths. You apparently do. I pretty much hate the GOPe that you would vote for. I mean you praised in state tuition Rick Perry.
He's a babykiller, a conflicted Catholic. I won't be voting for him. TC has a point here. You said you wanted Biden to win under certain circumstances. You want a pro abortion hacker to win. You should say you hope some third party wins. If it is Walker vs Biden would you still want Biden to win?
If it is Walker v. Biden, I would prefer that Walker win. He won't, but I'd prefer he would. And because he won't win, I think it is important that, on the Democrat side, it be Biden, not Hillary. Because Walker will not beat Hillary either, and then we'll have Lady MacBeth as POTUS. And that would be bad.
I think he said he would vote for Bush too. Bush wasn't his first choice though. He also likes Hillary better the Trump. I say that because he said if Trump gets the nomination he couldn't see himself voting for him. You're confused or just making things up. I do like Rick Perry and did in 2012 too (despite his miserable debate performance). I don't really think he can win. I never said I would vote for Bush as I have a record of 75% resisting the temptation of voting for a Bush. A Bush nomination would likely result in my voting third party. Just as with the Stain who I also did not vote for. My reputation here at LF as a rock-ribbed GOP partisan hack is actually ridiculous, given my actual voting record. It's actually hilarious, given how seldom I do actually vote for the GOP nominee. I also live in a late primary state. I don't even know the last time a presidential primary campaign visited the state for more than an hour or two. And I also live in one of the five Reddest states. Meaning that even when I vote third-party, I can rely on my fellow-voters to deliver our EC votes to the GOP candidate. So I can be as principled as I like, knowing the Dims won't ever take my portion of the EC vote. Very handy for having your cake (voting third party if I don't like the GOP candidate which is more often than not) and eating it too (never allowing my vote to be taken and given to a Dem candidate). If a GOP candidate actually needs my state's puny EC votes, they've already lost a 45-state landslide. So, before you go jousting at that windmill again, consider how little there is to gain by doing so.
I believe that if you want to participate in a major party's nomination process, even holding some unorthodox positions in that party, then you have to abide by the results of that process. Period. I was supporting Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012. I always opposed any talk among the Paulian Horde of RP accepting the invitations of LP and CP for a dual-nomination. As you should recall, at this point in the 1999 GOP process, Pat Buchanan jumped ship to run for the Reform nomination. That I did agree with. But Buchanan did not participate in any GOP debates or other party events. He judged his chances of getting the nomination and left the GOP early. A big difference from Trump using the GOP as a launch platform for a third-party run. I don't think the RNC should even allow a candidate in its debates if they won't take the pledge not to run third-party. They don't have to endorse or campaign for the nominee (Ron Paul didn't in 2008 and 2012). But they should be required to forswear a third-party run. I don't favor letting anyone just use the party for their vehicle then jumping ship and destroying that party's chances to win. It's a skunk move. And one that Trump is fully capable of. He is a spiteful and petty man, willing to sue people who speculate he isn't worth as much as he claims or people who write about his four bankruptcies. Trump is remarkably litigious over petty cases of libel. Another bad sign.
I think a RICO suit should be brought against the RNC. The DNC too.
That's probably because you're a dumbass.
" investor Carl Icahn "
#2. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#3. To: Vicomte13 (#2)
#4. To: A K A Stone (#0)
"the methods of electing our corporate and political leaders have become completely dysfunctional."
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#5. To: TooConservative (#3)
Do you actually have any principles at all?
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#6. To: TooConservative (#3)
You're embarrassing yourself, Champion of the Poor. Do you actually have any principles at all?
#7. To: Vicomte13 (#6)
I have often stated my principles. You don't state yours.
#8. To: TooConservative (#7)
" loathsome as he is. "
#9. To: Stoner (#8)
OK TC. It is obvious that you are not a Trump supporter.
#10. To: TooConservative (#7)
At least we have finally found the one Republican
#11. To: Stoner (#8)
To be honest, who do you support at this point in time?
#12. To: A K A Stone (#10)
You've been sayin ad naseum that Trump isn't a Republican.
#13. To: TooConservative (#12)
He's an opportunistic Republican,
#14. To: TooConservative (#7)
Your "principles" keep changing. Pining for Biden to win last week, swooning over the manliness of Donald Trump this week...
#15. To: TooConservative (#12)
And you? Are you a Republican or are you willing to let some liberal New York tycoon participate in the GOP nomination process and then decide he isn't a Republican after all and sail off on his yacht to run third party, giving Hitlery a free ride into the White House where her appointments to the Court will cement the Left's agenda into the Constitution?
#16. To: Vicomte13 (#14)
What I said about Biden was this:
#17. To: A K A Stone (#16)
If it is Walker vs Biden would you still want Biden to win?
#18. To: A K A Stone (#9)
I asked him that a few weeks ago. He mentioned Rick Perry. In state tuition Rick Perry.
#19. To: A K A Stone (#15)
I don't believe in loyalty oaths. You apparently do.
#20. To: TooConservative (#19)
I don't think the RNC should even allow a candidate in its debates if they won't take the pledge not to run third-party.
#21. To: Excalibur (#20)
I think a RICO suit should be brought against the RNC. The DNC too.
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