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Title: The Fundamental Point We Are Missing About Hillary Clinton's E-Mails
Source: Huffington Post
URL Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/krist ... -on-classified-_b_7959776.html
Published: Aug 10, 2015
Author: Kristofer Harrison
Post Date: 2015-08-10 16:26:27 by nolu chan
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Views: 2038
Comments: 21

The Fundamental Point We Are Missing About Hillary Clinton's E-Mails

Kristofer Harrison
Fmr. Defense and State Department advisor during the George W. Bush administration
Huffington Post
Posted: 08/10/2015 2:57 pm EDT Updated: 1 hour ago

Focusing mainly on how many classified emails were on Hillary Clinton's illegal server misses a fundamental point: MOST of Secretary Clinton's emails would have been sensitive because she was the Secretary of State. For a foreign intelligence agency, being able to follow a virtual conversation between her and, say, President Obama, would have been worth it's weight in gold. Foreign intelligence services would not have been watching her email just to capture classified memos. They would have wanted to tap into her thinking and decision-making. Running her own, private system outside of the U.S. government made it easy for them to do so.

First, can we drop the pretenses that the server was "secure?" It was in her home and set up by a Clinton staffer. It utilized the same infrastructure for sending and receiving emails as you are using to read this post. Second, don't get me wrong, the presence of classified information on her personal e-mail account is inexcusable. If she sent NSA material on her unclassified email she essentially did what Edward Snowden did, without the asylum in Russia and Ron Paul accolades. But the truly egregious action was to have opened the kimono of her--and thus the U.S. government's--policy deliberation to foreign governments. Imagine the gleeful reactions in the Kremlin as the "reset button" was debated live in front of their eyes.

Intelligence agencies spend billions of dollars each year to spy on U.S. leaders. Foreign countries would have wanted to know what the Secretary knew and how she prioritized issues--the why of her decisions. The U.S. spends billions each year to make that task more difficult. For example, the U.S maintains three separate computer systems, each for different classifications, each more secure than the next. Secretary Clinton's private server mooted those efforts. Her behavior showed her chief worry was Congress, not America's enemies.

There isn't really a benevolent explanation for emails on an unclassified system containing intelligence from five different intelligence agencies (the NSA, NGIC, CIA, DIA and DNI). There are only a couple ways that classified information could have been in her e-mail. Either she was sending documents or she repeated info she had heard or read.

It is quite laborious to transfer information between the three separate computer systems I mentioned above. The systems are not linked. For example, you cannot email from one system to another. For obvious security reasons and to keep employees, accidentally or otherwise, from transferring information from one system to another, the various classified systems do not have disc drives. In most cases a thumb drive would be necessary and I don't even know if that would work.

The systems are also closely monitored to recognize any such transfer. Because it is so difficult to transfer entire memos the relatively charitable explanation for Secretary Clinton having such classified information is that she simply regurgitated information. Each line in a typical intelligence report can be classified differently as the reports are compiled from many sources of varying classification.

With so much information flowing across a Secretary of State's desk keeping the correct classification assigned to the specific nugget of info can be daunting, especially if working from memory. But because her e-mails were on an unclassified, private system it would have been easy. Nothing classified or sensitive should have made its way into her emails. If she were mulling over an information nugget, for example, about Chancellor Angela Merkel's phone conversations it would be a pretty safe guess that it was classified and had no business in her unclassified email.

However, even if there was no classified information contained in her emails the sensitive nature of her work and its exposure is extremely concerning. This concern is outside the scope of the Inspectors General reports and FBI investigation. Just about everybody has a personal e-mail, but she used hers to conduct official government business as a Secretary of State, a sitting member of the National Security Council and the nation's chief diplomat.

It has been widely reported that she ran an awful lot of her decisions by confident Sidney Blumenthal, even having him run a private intelligence network of sorts for her. She routinely forwarded his emails to staffers asking for comment, providing a running commentary on U.S. security issues and priorities for the world to see. He probably wasn't the only outside advisor.

In one e-mail she derides UK Prime Minister David Cameron as "whacky." In another, she discusses with an advisor the nature of the then unreleased UN Gladstone Report, a report that was highly critical of Israel, and the fact that she had informed President Obama, through Rahm Emanuel, of Israel's message to her. Another e-mail was an exchange with Sandy Berger, a man with his own intelligence mishandling issues, about how to handle negotiations with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Don't you think the Israelis were interested in reading advice to the Secretary of State on how their prime minister should be handled? This information would not have been classified but is very, very sensitive. It was official government business

Again, this is a point in addition to the current criminal FBI investigation about whether her e-mails contained classified information and whether she mishandled it. Regardless of the outcome of that investigation this should remain a large issue. Virtually every e-mail would have been interesting to some foreign government or another. They would have been exactly what intelligence services were looking for. It was terrible judgement on her part.

This raises an ironic point that Governor Scott Walker has made. It is virtually certain that foreign intelligence services have had better luck accessing Secretary Clinton's official business e-mails than has the U.S. Congress, despite the outstanding subpoenas and investigations. They and Mrs. Clinton are the only ones that will ever know the content of the 30,000 emails that her staff deleted. Think about that for a second. Vladimir Putin knows more about the Clinton Global Initiative, Teneo and State Department shakedown operation lining the Clintons' pockets than do the American people--by design! I'm sure Russian intelligence officers are gleefully mulling over the uses of that kompromat should Hillary become president.

In addition to possible jail and fines, the law typically stipulates forfeiting property gained from illicit activity. As is becoming clear, the Clinton Foundation, President Clinton through speeches and Teneo gained quite handsomely from Hillary Clinton's time at State, but that kind of forfeiture is unlikely.

Lowly staffers would have to worry about jail and crippling fines. I seriously doubt jail is a concern of hers. In fact, Secretary Clinton's deliberately did this in an effort to keep records away from Congress. Likewise, it is doubtful she is worried about fines. She and President Clinton have netted $100 million since leaving the White House. It will take an awfully large fine to hurt. Short of this crippling her White House ambitions I'm not sure what would, but this is Washington after all....so I am expecting nothing.

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#1. To: nolu chan (#0)

For obvious security reasons and to keep employees, accidentally or otherwise, from transferring information from one system to another, the various classified systems do not have disc drives. In most cases a thumb drive would be necessary and I don't even know if that would work.

Thumb drives were prohibited from use on all Secret and above computers in 2007 on government computers. After the wikileaks scandal you could no longer take unclassified information from a classified system and download it on a disc. The rules are even tougher now even for the FOUO/Unclass NIPR systems.

If someone wants to 'burn' a CD disk from a Secret level computer there is a long process for that to be done and only certain certified individuals can do it. Most people don't bother anymore as anything coming off a Secret computer has to be locked up in a safe.

As you know for the higher than Secret, there is hardly any 'soft copies' made anymore due to the wikileaks deal. Even hard copies of information from TS systems are closely managed in a secure area.

So yes Hitlery broke every rule I can think of.

"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-10   16:43:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: redleghunter (#1)

Maskirovka.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-08-10   17:07:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: redleghunter (#1) (Edited)

Surprisingly, HuffPo is the first source I've read that recognizes how useful even the metadata of the Xlinton email server would be. How bizarre is that?

Who is the SoS communicating with and when? How often does she reply to it? What is the time lag? Who does she communicate within but especially outside of government?

The NSA's real expertise is not merely in decryption and eavesdropping. A major field of expertise at NSA is traffic routing analysis and simple contact tracing.

Another problem is that, to communicate with other (supposedly) secure servers at various agencies, the Xlinton server would have to use cryptographic certificates that had to match those filed with the other systems. When (not if) the Russians and Chinese and Israelis got those Xlinton server crypto certificates, it could lead to all kinds of further compromises. Including the ability to impersonate Hitlery in email.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-10   17:22:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Vicomte13 (#2)

Maskirovka.

No, it was not a honeypot. It really was as amateurish as it sounds.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-10   17:25:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Vicomte13 (#2)

Maskirovka.

Good choice of a Cold War term:)

"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-10   17:40:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: TooConservative (#4)

No, it was not a honeypot. It really was as amateurish as it sounds.

Maybe. Maybe the apparent amateurishness of it and the prosecution that follows is part of the dezinformatsiya.

Or maybe it's just what it appears.

Doesn't matter either way. The Russians are not out there waiting to attack us. It's not their "thing" anymore (if it ever really was - blowing up the world never sounded like a good prospect).

Obama will use this to oust her in favor of Biden.

And it'll either be President Trump, if he takes over the GOP with the support of people like me. Or it will be President Biden. Because the rest of the seven dwarfs don't have what it takes.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-08-10   18:07:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Vicomte13 (#6)

Obama will use this to oust her in favor of Biden.

I'm not sure. Maybe he made a deal with the Xlintons for their full support in 2012 with extensive campaigning by Bill and it would blow up the Dim party to break that deal. The coronation of Hillary! in 2008 was spoiled by the upstart Obama but he wants a Dem successor to cement his legacy and the Court more than he prefers Biden to Hillary. And Biden makes enough gaffes to raise questions as to whether he could run an administration without it becoming a disaster.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-10   18:16:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: All (#0)

It has been widely reported that she ran an awful lot of her decisions by confident Sidney Blumenthal, even having him run a private intelligence network of sorts for her.

Blumenthal may have just been a go-between for Hillary and a U.S. intelligence source from the CIA or other agency. She has a server with information from 5 intelligence services. If Blumenthal gave it to Hillary, where did he get it from?

nolu chan  posted on  2015-08-10   18:35:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: nolu chan (#8)

Blumenthal may have just been a go-between for Hillary and a U.S. intelligence source from the CIA or other agency. She has a server with information from 5 intelligence services. If Blumenthal gave it to Hillary, where did he get it from?

It would be interesting to know if all those agencies were connecting with her directly on her server or if they were routed through a central classified server. Generally, you would expect they would not allow so many attack points on the exposed surfaces of their networks. After all, they know full well how common man-in-the-middle attacks are.

Some of the technical details of the server have never surfaced. What has come out sounds pretty amateurish.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-10   19:09:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: TooConservative (#7)

I'm not sure. Maybe he made a deal with the Xlintons for their full support in 2012 with extensive campaigning by Bill and it would blow up the Dim party to break that deal. The coronation of Hillary! in 2008 was spoiled by the upstart Obama but he wants a Dem successor to cement his legacy and the Court more than he prefers Biden to Hillary. And Biden makes enough gaffes to raise questions as to whether he could run an administration without it becoming a disaster.

I don't have a crystal ball either, but I think that the battle is over more than legacy. Obama's already got his legacy as the first black President, and a decent record. He brought in national health insurance, something nobody's been able to do for decades (and Lord knows they've tried). He got Bin Laden. He's gotten a lot of what he wanted.

I think that within the Democrat Party there are two main camps that both have power. One was Team Clinton, one was Team Obama. Truth is, neither has anywhere else to go outside of the Democrat Party. They can't up and run as independents. Team Obama and Team Clinton started off at dagger's point. Obama stole Hillary's White House. Obama neutralized Hillary by making her SecState. And she did herself no favors in that position.

The rest of Team Obama are largely a race-based minority, but with broad support. Team Clinton are known to be vicious, and people like Valerie Jarrett don't want to relinquish power. Hillary brings Team Clinton, but Biden doesn't have a team beyond Team Obama. Biden would have all of the support of Team Obama, and once in, would be Obama's third and fourth term. I can see him using the AG investigation to oust her, and then setting up Biden.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-08-10   19:35:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Vicomte13 (#10)

I don't have a crystal ball either, but I think that the battle is over more than legacy. Obama's already got his legacy as the first black President, and a decent record.

You said the other day people call you a democrat. Do you not understand why?

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-08-10   19:47:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: TooConservative (#9)

It would be interesting to know if all those agencies were connecting with her directly on her server

I doubt the contact was direct. Look at the Guccifer hack of Blumenthal and it appears obvious he had one or more sources inside of intelligence circles.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-08-10   19:49:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Vicomte13 (#10)

Hillary brings Team Clinton, but Biden doesn't have a team beyond Team Obama. Biden would have all of the support of Team Obama, and once in, would be Obama's third and fourth term. I can see him using the AG investigation to oust her, and then setting up Biden.

Yes, not Obama but all his staffers, some of whom wouldn't mind staying power at the WH or cabinet agencies. Big power, big money, big lobbying once they leave. A Hitlery win (or loss) ruins that for them. They might like the odds better for themselves to go with Biden. Obama isn't entirely immune to the influence of those around him. One of the problems with two-term presidents is they become the prisoners of their staff.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-10   21:10:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: nolu chan (#12)

I doubt the contact was direct. Look at the Guccifer hack of Blumenthal and it appears obvious he had one or more sources inside of intelligence circles.

I think you're right. Still, they've never been real specific. At least, not that I've noticed.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-10   21:11:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: nolu chan (#0)

So, what is all this popular NSA babble about by monitoring everyone's email account, now? Don't they monitor Clinton's emails, too? What about other government officials? Government officials have infinitly more data about the nature of sensitive information than the average American citizen, so why aren't they monitored on a priortized basis? I have an article to post about this issue.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-08-10   21:23:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: buckeroo (#15)

Their funding and oversight comes from government officials.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-08-10   22:35:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A K A Stone (#11)

You said the other day people call you a democrat. Do you not understand why?

No, I do not understand why.

Reagan did a pretty good job. Bush 41 did a decent job with the Gulf War. He blew the aftermath, but his conduct of the war was pretty good. Clinton balanced the budged and presided over a very long period of expansion. W Bush united the country reasonably well after 9/11.

I don't have a problem objectively analyzing the successes of Presidents of both parties, and I find partisans to be ridiculous in their foolish pretenses that ONLY their side ever did any good. It's ridiculous all across history, and it's ridiculous now.

I've said in the past who I voted for, and where I stand, and why. I've stated it several times. Everybody has read it. So yes, I don't understand why people think I'm a Democrat. It makes me think they are brain damaged or have a problem with reading comprehension.

Now, if there were some grand strategic advantage in being something but pretending otherwise, then perhaps I am performing a maskirovka (and doing a poor job of it). But this is a small anonymous chatroom of middle aged men. I'm saying exactly what I think, unfiltered, because I can see no reason at all why not to.

I am not and never have been a Democrat. I used to be a Republican, but I got sick of being lied to, and I'm tired of their economics.

I'm for Trump because he's not a Democrat and the Republican Establishment hates him. And because I like his ideas and attitude. If he wins, he's going the tear the Republican Party apart and turn it into something else. The current power structure will fall, and he'll close a bunch of loopholes and probably tax the hell out of the rich too. He knows where the bodies are buried, and he's not going to take any prisoners.

I like that.

He's not going to continue Republican policies on most things, because they're stupid and his policy ideas are better.

That's why I support Trump. If he were not Trump, I would prefer he run third party, because I don't like the Republican name. But I think that Trump will actually rip the GOP apart and rebuild it in his image, so I see the possibility of real CHANGE with him - the uprooting of Republican philosophy and its replacement with things that are more sensible - and that are not Democrat.

As a Third Party guy, he probably could not win, and if he did, he would not be able to reform the GOP. But as a successful President, he will be the head of the Party, and he can fire the established executives, drive Rove and his contingent onto the unemployment rolls, and install his people in change of things, and enforce different ideas, just exactly as the current country club party does.

Trump is running as a Republican. I will be voting for Trump, not the Republicans. I think Trump will remake the Republicans. And I don't think he'll take any prisoners doing it.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-08-10   22:56:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: TooConservative (#14)

Still, they've never been real specific. At least, not that I've noticed.

http://www.rt.com/usa/complete-emails-guccifer-clinton-554/

Hacked intel reports.

The intel is less than 24 hours old and its compromise endangers the source. Its leak impedes the ability to develop more sources. I think this should have been Top Secret at the time, certainly not less than Secret.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-08-10   22:57:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: nolu chan (#18)

Well, RT may not be the most credible source for info.

Unless they are admitting they hacked her server and stole her entire email stash. Then I would give them more credibility.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-11   6:03:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: TooConservative (#19)

Well, RT may not be the most credible source for info.

Unless they are admitting they hacked her server and stole her entire email stash. Then I would give them more credibility.

They are the same emails, but hacker Guccifer leaked them years ago from his hack of Blumenthal. RT published the results of the Guccifer hack. There were emails addressed to Hillary.

I find three of the four on the email release from Hillary's server. Guccifer just released them quicker than Hillary. But, if you want to see them off the Hillary server....

Go to:

https://foia.state.gov/search/results.aspx?collection=Clinton_Email

Search on "blumenthal"

Pull out the email by date.

September 12, 2012
H: Magariaf on attack on US in Libya, Sid

October 6, 2012
H: Great to see you. Drop in again. Here's Libya. Sid

December 10, 2012
Listed under December 9, 2012
H: Libya, latest Benghazi intel. Sid

The fourth I do not find, but the content would seem to indicate it should have been Top Secret and may still be considered classified, or it just has not been released yet.

February 16, 2013
Re: Algeria/Libya/Terrorism

nolu chan  posted on  2015-08-11   19:05:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: nolu chan (#20)

Two of the four emails were announced today by the investigator to have been of the highest security level and were supposedly marked secret.

And Hitlery just swore in an affidavit to a judge today that nothing was classified.

Now it can become legal.

The fun got going when Hitlery came out with her own version of Bill's old "I...did not...have sex with that server.") It was painful to watch.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-11   21:17:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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