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Title: Trump campaign claims it fired top adviser -- who says he quit
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CNN
URL Source: http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/08/polit ... ld-trump-campaign-roger-stone/
Published: Aug 8, 2015
Author: MJ Lee and Dana Bash
Post Date: 2015-08-08 20:21:33 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 17859
Comments: 174
Stone's disassociation from the Trump operation Saturday highlights the campaign's seeming lack of veteran political advisers, even as the 2016 season is ramping up in earnest. And the dispute opens a window into two different factions of the campaign: one side that wants to maintain Trump's high visibility by capitalizing on his public feuds and bombastic rhetoric, and another that wants to pull the candidate toward more disciplined political strategy. The episode caps a tumultuous few weeks for Trump's presidential campaign, which recently cut ties with two men accused of writing inflammatory Facebook posts. Trump, who is currently leading national polls, delivered an explosive performance at the first GOP debate in Cleveland Thursday, and went on to make inflammatory comments about Fox News host Megyn Kelly in an interview on CNN Friday night. "Mr. Trump fired Roger Stone last night. We have a tremendously successful campaign and Roger wanted to use the campaign for his own personal publicity. He has had a number of articles about him recently and Mr. Trump wants to keep the focus of the campaign on how to Make America Great Again," a campaign spokesperson told CNN. Stone, however, told CNN that he "categorically denies" being fired, and provided what he said was his resignation letter. "Unfortunately, the current controversies involving personalities and provocative media fights have reached such a high volume that it has distracted attention from your platform and overwhelmed your core message. With this current direction of the candidacy, I no longer can remain involved in your campaign," the letter to Trump says. Stone added: "I care about you as a friend and wish you well. Be assured I will continue to be vocal and active in the national debate to ensure our nation does not again turn to the failed and distrusted Bush/Clinton families." Trump's campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, said the team never saw Stone's letter. For his part, Stone tweeted Saturday afternoon that he "fired Trump." The Washington Post first reported that Stone was no longer a part of Trump's campaign. Matt Mackowiak, a Republican political consultant and close friend of Stone's, told CNN that Stone was deeply disappointed with Trump's debate performance Thursday. Stone, a former aide to President Richard Nixon who has known Trump for several decades, helped with the candidate's debate preparations. He had hoped that Trump would stay focused and disciplined, sticking largely to issues like illegal immigration and trade. Instead, Stone concluded that Trump had taken the debate to a "circus-like place." The working relationship between Stone and Trump became further strained when Trump made controversial comments about Kelly in an interview with CNN's Don Lemon. "You could see there was blood coming out of her eyes," Trump told Lemon. "Blood coming out of her wherever." "Calling into CNN and making outrageous comments about Megyn Kelly and making it even more of a circus than it already is, Roger just felt like he couldn't stand by him," Mackowiak said. Mackowiak also said Stone had planned to announce his resignation Saturday night, and when Trump got word, the candidate announced he had fired Stone. One Trump associate and friend also told CNN that existing tensions between Stone and Trump reached a breaking point following the candidate's explosive debate performance. "He has been disenchanted with Trump for a few weeks now," the associate said, citing Stone's perception that Trump's candidacy lacked "seriousness." According to this source, Stone was unhappy with Trump's conduct on the debate stage in Cleveland, and when Stone shared these thoughts with Trump, the billionaire businessman "didn't want to hear it." Another Republican source close to Stone said the adviser resigned in part because he grew frustrated with the campaign's refusal to focus on policy specifics and conduct polling. "Roger has been trying to press the campaign to get specific on issues, to poll, to run an actual campaign, while others in Trumpland have been egging him on to continue to engage in these political food fights like the Megyn Kelly incident," the Republican source said. Speaking with CNN's Poppy Harlow late Saturday afternoon, Stone again insisted he quit, saying he felt he "was having no impact." He said he hoped Trump would return to speaking about the "big picture" issues, such as trade and immigration, that helped fuel his rise to the top of GOP polls. But Stone refused to elaborate in greater detail about how his relationship with the campaign ruptured, saying he had "no intention about talking about internal campaign deliberations." He did say, however, that he and Trump remain friends, and although he isn't a registered Republican, said he would continue to back a Trump bid. "If I had the opportunity to vote for him in the primaries, I would," he said. "I still think he is the right man to make America great again." Poster Comment: Roger Stone is Trump's longtime political adviser and ally, going back decades. (CNN)Donald Trump's campaign said Saturday it has fired top political adviser Roger Stone -- who promptly denied being let go and insisted he had quit. "Sorry @realDonaldTrump didn't fire me- I fired Trump. Diasagree [sic] with diversion to food fight with @megynkelly away core issue messages," the tweet read.
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#1. To: All (#0)
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Stone is the second Trump adviser to leave in the last 10 days. Apparenty, Trump now only has his corporate lawyer and his campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski. And some campaign spokesbabe, well, unless she's bleeding from somewhere and can't come to the microphone. A photo of Roger Stone. Some might recall that in the Nineties, Stone was in a swingers club scandal. When he was younger, he had a physique and dressed and lived like a James Bond jetset type, the whole Playboy lifestyle thing from the Sixties and Seventies. Politico says two other Trump campaign insiders have confirmed that Stone quit and was not fired first. They also report this conversation between Trump and Stone on Friday morning. Trump: What do you mean? I won the debate. People loved it. Stone: You didn't win the debate. Trump: Yes I did. Look at the polling. Look at Drudge. Stone: The Drudge Report poll isn't a scientific poll. You won't give me the money to pay for a scientific poll. And you're off-message. Trump: There are other polls. Stone: Those are bullsh*t polls, Donald. They're not scientific polls. We need to run a professional campaign and talk about what people really care about. Trump: We're winning.
Trump is right: he is winning. Stone is an old political hack. Nixon. NIXON, for God's sake. Trump needs to stick with his instincts and carry himself forward. He had the only substantive policy proposal of the debate: health insurance common market. He needs to keep doing that: keep punching the people who need to get punched, and keep giving a policy view or two. He's forcing the GOP to decide whether or not they want to actually win the election. So far, it looks like they care more about retaining control of their party internally than winning.
More of the "very best" campaign staff that Trump has recruited. Tana Goertz, his campaign co-chair in the battleground state, said that she was not offended by Trump's suggestion that Kelly asked him tough questions because there was 'blood coming out of her wherever'. Goertz instead said the abuse is part of political debate, saying: 'If you mess with the bull you're going to get the horns, sweetheart'. Very classy, totally first class. Trump seems to be running for prez as Il Duce II, an American Mussolini. A crude man with crude associates and staff.
Snake venom causes a person to bleed from their eyes and nose. To say that a person is bleeding from their eyes and nose is to imply they're full of venom. An appropriate phrase given the circumstances. Trump merely forgot the second part. It's ridiculous that people are making such a big deal about it. I think if he meant to imply she was hormonal he would have come straight out and said, "Man, she must be on the rag".
An appropriate phrase given the circumstances. Trump merely forgot the second part. It's ridiculous that people are making such a big deal about it. Can you actually cite a single instance of a hostile interviewer being described as "bleeding from the nose"? "Bleeding from the eyes" is pretty uncommon as a phrase. But bleeding from ass or vagina both have quite a few various phrases to describe them. And Trump was talking about a woman that was being hostile to him. Connect the dots. Stop making such silly excuses for your anti-hero. At least, don't expect sane people to take you seriously. He caught himself before he went that far. Any kid over the age of ten knows what he was saying about her.
Who cares what he said or meant. He didn't break an FCC rule... just Megan's feelings. Maybe the sheep need a thicker skin and we'd be less concerned with political correctness and more concerned with fixing our economy. If Megan Kelly feels he was talking about her Vag, then maybe she haas guilty complex about asking questions like a cunt.
Maybe you should tweet your insights directly to Megyn or post it on her Facebook page (I know you're a member). Yeah, I didn't think so.
I've already posted my thoughts on the Fox News page.
No doubt, they have a lot of angry Trump supporters posting there. As far as intimidating Ailes (the "decider"), we can judge by how much angry reaction there was to FNC's obvious pro-Giuliani bias in the 2008 race, so much so that Giuliani occupied a strong frontrunner position in 2008, comparable to Trump's numbers now. And Giuliani, like Trump, is a New Yorker. And that means pretty liberal on a wide range of issues. Because they are NYCers, it's their worldview. As a longtime watcher, you know this is true. The bizarre thing to me is that Giuliani was considered by the base as too liberal and McStain was able to consolidate his NH win (with a lot of Dem votes in their open primary) and build on that to overcome Giuliani in Florida. Trump but not Giuliani? Are you kidding me? It's insane. Even Pataki looks not so dismal compared to Trump. I'm talking about their basic character as a person, not just policy (well, if Trump has any policy other than some calculated pandering to the Right who are pretending to ignore his long liberal record as a typical Manhattan tycoon).
Trump but not Giuliani? Are you kidding me? It's insane. Trump is a businessman who is willing to fight for the base rather than Giuliani who was a govt employee and talked down to the base. There is a difference. Trump is saying he sucks as a politician but he built a net worth in the billions. Trump is running on his competency as a mega business man. He can build stuff.
There is a difference. Trump is saying he sucks as a politician but he built a net worth in the billions. Maybe he can just declare the country bankrupt. He's had some practice.
Okay, Chris Wallace. "Out of hundreds of deals that I've done — hundreds! — on four occasions, I've taken advantage of the laws of this country like other people," Trump said." Four bankruptcies out of hundreds of investments? Well, forget it. If he can't be perfect, I'm not voting for him. Who should I vote for, Too Conservative? Who has a 100% record of decision- making?
#88. To: misterwhite (#87)
How about a candidate who isn't well-known for going bankrupt?
Hey! If you can't trust a compulsive liar and raging ego-maniac like Trump to tell the truth about himself,who can you trust,right?
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Stone: Donald, stop with the Megyn Kelly sh*t. It's f**king crazy. It's killing us.
#4. To: TooConservative (#1)
#6. To: Vicomte13 (#4)
A Donald Trump official leading his political campaign in Iowa has said his attacks on Fox News host Megyn Kelly are 'fair game'.
#12. To: TooConservative (#6)
#18. To: misterwhite (#12)
Snake venom causes a person to bleed from their eyes and nose. To say that a person is bleeding from their eyes and nose is to imply they're full of venom.
I think if he meant to imply she was hormonal he would have come straight out and said, "Man, she must be on the rag".
#53. To: TooConservative (#18)
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Can you actually cite a single instance of a hostile interviewer being described as "bleeding from the nose"? "Bleeding from the eyes" is pretty uncommon as a phrase.
#70. To: GrandIsland (#53)
If Megan Kelly feels he was talking about her Vag, then maybe she haas guilty complex about asking questions like a cunt.
#74. To: TooConservative (#70)
#77. To: GrandIsland (#74)
I've already posted my thoughts on the Fox News page.
#81. To: TooConservative, GrandIsland (#77)
he bizarre thing to me is that Giuliani was considered by the base as too liberal and McStain was able to consolidate his NH win (with a lot of Dem votes in their open primary) and build on that to overcome Giuliani in Florida.
#84. To: Pericles (#81)
Trump is a businessman who is willing to fight for the base rather than Giuliani who was a govt employee and talked down to the base.
#87. To: TooConservative (#84)
"Maybe he can just declare the country bankrupt. He's had some practice."
Replies to Comment # 87. Who should I vote for, Too Conservative? Who has a 100% record of decision- making?
#136. To: misterwhite (#87)
"Out of hundreds of deals that I've done — hundreds! — on four occasions, I've taken advantage of the laws of this country like other people," Trump said."
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