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Title: Trump campaign claims it fired top adviser -- who says he quit
Source: CNN
URL Source: http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/08/polit ... ld-trump-campaign-roger-stone/
Published: Aug 8, 2015
Author: MJ Lee and Dana Bash
Post Date: 2015-08-08 20:21:33 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 14669
Comments: 174

(CNN)Donald Trump's campaign said Saturday it has fired top political adviser Roger Stone -- who promptly denied being let go and insisted he had quit.

Stone's disassociation from the Trump operation Saturday highlights the campaign's seeming lack of veteran political advisers, even as the 2016 season is ramping up in earnest. And the dispute opens a window into two different factions of the campaign: one side that wants to maintain Trump's high visibility by capitalizing on his public feuds and bombastic rhetoric, and another that wants to pull the candidate toward more disciplined political strategy.

The episode caps a tumultuous few weeks for Trump's presidential campaign, which recently cut ties with two men accused of writing inflammatory Facebook posts. Trump, who is currently leading national polls, delivered an explosive performance at the first GOP debate in Cleveland Thursday, and went on to make inflammatory comments about Fox News host Megyn Kelly in an interview on CNN Friday night.

"Mr. Trump fired Roger Stone last night. We have a tremendously successful campaign and Roger wanted to use the campaign for his own personal publicity. He has had a number of articles about him recently and Mr. Trump wants to keep the focus of the campaign on how to Make America Great Again," a campaign spokesperson told CNN.

Stone, however, told CNN that he "categorically denies" being fired, and provided what he said was his resignation letter.

"Unfortunately, the current controversies involving personalities and provocative media fights have reached such a high volume that it has distracted attention from your platform and overwhelmed your core message. With this current direction of the candidacy, I no longer can remain involved in your campaign," the letter to Trump says.

Stone added: "I care about you as a friend and wish you well. Be assured I will continue to be vocal and active in the national debate to ensure our nation does not again turn to the failed and distrusted Bush/Clinton families."

Trump's campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, said the team never saw Stone's letter. For his part, Stone tweeted Saturday afternoon that he "fired Trump."

"Sorry @realDonaldTrump didn't fire me- I fired Trump. Diasagree [sic] with diversion to food fight with @megynkelly away core issue messages," the tweet read.

The Washington Post first reported that Stone was no longer a part of Trump's campaign.

Matt Mackowiak, a Republican political consultant and close friend of Stone's, told CNN that Stone was deeply disappointed with Trump's debate performance Thursday.

Stone, a former aide to President Richard Nixon who has known Trump for several decades, helped with the candidate's debate preparations. He had hoped that Trump would stay focused and disciplined, sticking largely to issues like illegal immigration and trade. Instead, Stone concluded that Trump had taken the debate to a "circus-like place."

The working relationship between Stone and Trump became further strained when Trump made controversial comments about Kelly in an interview with CNN's Don Lemon.

"You could see there was blood coming out of her eyes," Trump told Lemon. "Blood coming out of her wherever."

"Calling into CNN and making outrageous comments about Megyn Kelly and making it even more of a circus than it already is, Roger just felt like he couldn't stand by him," Mackowiak said.

Mackowiak also said Stone had planned to announce his resignation Saturday night, and when Trump got word, the candidate announced he had fired Stone.

One Trump associate and friend also told CNN that existing tensions between Stone and Trump reached a breaking point following the candidate's explosive debate performance.

"He has been disenchanted with Trump for a few weeks now," the associate said, citing Stone's perception that Trump's candidacy lacked "seriousness."

According to this source, Stone was unhappy with Trump's conduct on the debate stage in Cleveland, and when Stone shared these thoughts with Trump, the billionaire businessman "didn't want to hear it."

Another Republican source close to Stone said the adviser resigned in part because he grew frustrated with the campaign's refusal to focus on policy specifics and conduct polling.

"Roger has been trying to press the campaign to get specific on issues, to poll, to run an actual campaign, while others in Trumpland have been egging him on to continue to engage in these political food fights like the Megyn Kelly incident," the Republican source said.

Speaking with CNN's Poppy Harlow late Saturday afternoon, Stone again insisted he quit, saying he felt he "was having no impact." He said he hoped Trump would return to speaking about the "big picture" issues, such as trade and immigration, that helped fuel his rise to the top of GOP polls.

But Stone refused to elaborate in greater detail about how his relationship with the campaign ruptured, saying he had "no intention about talking about internal campaign deliberations."

He did say, however, that he and Trump remain friends, and although he isn't a registered Republican, said he would continue to back a Trump bid.

"If I had the opportunity to vote for him in the primaries, I would," he said. "I still think he is the right man to make America great again."


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#134. To: TooConservative (#68)

If they aren't working for Xlinton, they're a threat to her public appearances too.

Not really. The SS and her other bodyguards won't let those cretins get within shouting range of her,and JJ,Sharpie,and all the other Poverty Pimps will give her public cover because they want to keep those government checks rolling in.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-10   8:44:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: Pericles (#76)

he literally is horrible at it but I fucking like the guy

You may not realize it,but you highlighted WHY you like him with the 1st 4 words in the sentence above.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-10   8:47:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: misterwhite (#87)

"Out of hundreds of deals that I've done — hundreds! — on four occasions, I've taken advantage of the laws of this country like other people," Trump said."

Hey! If you can't trust a compulsive liar and raging ego-maniac like Trump to tell the truth about himself,who can you trust,right?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-10   8:50:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: sneakypete (#121)

Maybe somebody will photo shop Trumps face on the famous photo of Il Duce with that smirk on his face in uniform with the hat,and title it "El Douche"?

Brilliant. A side-by-side, Il Duce 1924 and El Douche 2015 as the captions?

Maybe a WWE spoof of Donald "The Donald" Trump vs. Vlad "the Mad Russian" Putin? You could even go shirtless since that's Vlad thing anyway.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-10   8:56:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: sneakypete (#130)

He even already has his own personal Cult of Personality. I wonder if we will be required to refer to him as "Illustrious Leader" if he is elected?

Maybe "Beloved Leader". Or "El Supremo".

You really do start to wonder what people think they will get by following this Pied Piper. How do they not see that this has to be a put-up job. The Xlintons (or the Bushes) are probably behind it.

The people who say the last thing they want is another Bush as nominee are virtually guaranteeing it will happen.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-10   9:02:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: TooConservative (#137)

Brilliant. A side-by-side, Il Duce 1924 and El Douche 2015 as the captions?

That was my thought.

Maybe a WWE spoof of Donald "The Donald" Trump vs. Vlad "the Mad Russian" Putin? You could even go shirtless since that's Vlad thing anyway.

I love it! Especially if there were a video that showed Trumps bodyguards getting in the ring to fight Putin's bodyguards,because we all know "The Donald" will never personally fight anyone physically,and Putin would kick his ass in a micro-second.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-10   9:06:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: sneakypete (#129)

Trump is a life-long Dim,and only became a Republican because he can now run for president without pissing off any of his Dim friends in NYC.

He was a Nixon-era Republican. Certainly one of the old northeast liberal Republican crowd.

He started flirting with a third-party run as a Reform candidate or an indy candidate back in the Nineties. Then he became a Dim during the Bush years but says he voted for the Stain in '08 and then changed to GOP registration (again) in 2009. At least that's my recollection. Someone (TMZ?) did a piece on his history and published all his voter registration documents in New York going back decades to back it up.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-10   9:07:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: TooConservative (#138)

You really do start to wonder what people think they will get by following this Pied Piper. How do they not see that this has to be a put-up job. The Xlintons (or the Bushes) are probably behind it.

I think most of them are just so disgusted by "politics as usual" and the usual worthless suspects running for office they would support practically anyone they see as an outsider.

Which is where they are making their mistake. Trump is anything but a outsider. He has been a player behind the scenes in Dim politics since birth,thanks to his grandfather and father. He might as well be a Roosevelt or a Kennedy.

I suspect the common thought is "That's going to happen anyhow,so no harm caused by supporting that creep". Sadly,they are probably right on that one.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-10   9:11:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: sneakypete (#139)

I've been surprised by the utter fascination with Trump's hair. Even Romney's silky coif never got so much attention. Trump's hair is an object of extreme public fascination. It's so mysterious apparently. And there are an endless variety of opinions about it, much like Trump himself.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-10   9:16:44 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: TooConservative (#142)

I've been surprised by the utter fascination with Trump's hair.

I don't think it is a case of fascination as much as it is a visual shorthand adjective used to describe him so that people who don't follow politics or the media very closely will immediately know who you are talking about.

You say "dyed orange possum hair",and everybody,even school children know who you are talking about.

Like when you say "Lady Lindsey" everybody knows it's Graham, "Fat boy" they know you are talking about Christie,or "nasty evil old fat bitch",everybody knows you are talking about Bubbette!.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-10   9:22:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: sneakypete (#143)

Google Images has an entire section of Donald Trump hair pictures. They are further broken down into Trump hair subcategories with a Tutorial category (how to do a four-way Donald Trump comb-over/comb-under) and so on.

TIME:

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-10   9:39:59 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: sneakypete, Fred Mertz, buckeroo (#143)

You may recall in 2011 when Trump was big on WWE. You may have thought I was kidding about Trump and professional wrestling.

Trump shaved off Vince McMahon's hair after The Donald physically attacked and punched him in the head.

Very classy stuff. Presidential material. Way too principled to play cheap tricks on the public like a P.T. Barnum.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-10   9:48:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: sneakypete (#128) (Edited)

Well,once you give him your money,it becomes HIS money.

You're so right.

If quizzed by the media about taking donations after saying he wouldn't, Donald will just explain he had a lot of devoted people getting angry because he wouldn't take their donations so, in order to placate this overwhelming demand by the public, he has reluctantly agreed to accept their money after all as a true Man of the People. And it has been a humbling experience for Donald to realize just how deeply the American public loves him.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-10   9:51:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: sneakypete (#143)

I don't think it is a case of fascination as much as it is a visual shorthand adjective used to describe him so that people who don't follow politics or the media very closely will immediately know who you are talking about.

You say "dyed orange possum hair",and everybody,even school children know who you are talking about.

Like when you say "Lady Lindsey" everybody knows it's Graham, "Fat boy" they know you are talking about Christie,or "nasty evil old fat bitch",everybody knows you are talking about Bubbette!.

Kind of like when I say fag lover everyone knows it is you.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-08-10   10:04:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: sneakypete (#129)

Trump is a life-long Dim,and only became a Republican because he can now run for president without pissing off any of his Dim friends in NYC.

You're a liar. Take the day off.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-08-10   10:06:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: misterwhite, TooConservative, nolu chan (#36)

"But bleeding from ass or vagina both have quite a few various phrases to describe them."

But none of those phrases start with "Bleeding from the eyes and ...". YOU connect the dots. Trump wasn't going in that direction. Unlike your dirty mind.

Firstly, nope, none of those phrases start with "bleeding from the eyes and..."

The desperation of those who want Trump OUT of the GOP, OUT of the political arena, and OUT of the whistle-blowing business is irrational, illogical, and only serves...the Mind-Reading Gestapo. To presume Trump was referring to menstrual bleeding took a GIANT leap of faith from the wishful thinking, and the most cynical, dirty minds. This BS is now waaaay out of hand, the cred of those who added 1 + 1 = 3 is getting shredded.

But there's an important war to be won against the "terror" waged *by* "Teabaggers," Conservatives, and Whistle-Blowers like Donald Trump. And also, "The War On Women" -- it's at least a two-fer.

This meme and incident prove that the GOPe will stop at NOTHING to to leap into bed with the sociopaths at FOX News and ANY media willing to demonize the aforementioned "terrorists."

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-10   10:07:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: sneakypete (#123)

That's just pathetic. Do you blow him,also?

Inappropriate comment.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-08-10   10:10:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: TooConservative (#137)

"Brilliant. A side-by-side, Il Duce 1924 and El Douche 2015 as the captions?"

Nobody, I mean nobody, does Il Duce better than Il Douche.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-10   10:12:05 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: sneakypete (#129)

We've talked about this before. Don't lie about stuff that you have already been debunked on. I don't care for liars.

www.thesmokinggun.com/doc...ump-a-republican-for-now- 908431g Quit lying about what you have been shown to be a lie. Then I wont do this to you.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-08-10   10:16:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: misterwhite (#151)

Nobody, I mean nobody, does Il Duce better than Il Douche.

Yeah, it's too obvious. Of course it's already been done to death. In 37 languages probably.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-10   10:18:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: sneakypete (#152)

I'm in a good mood today. So just quit making stuff up you know isn't true. Please. So I changed my mind already as I really don't like giving you a time out.

Just be honest in your rhetoric.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-08-10   10:26:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: TooConservative (#140)

He started flirting with a third-party run as a Reform candidate or an indy candidate back in the Nineties. Then he became a Dim during the Bush years but says he voted for the Stain in '08 and then changed to GOP registration (again) in 2009. At least that's my recollection. Someone (TMZ?) did a piece on his history and published all his voter registration documents in New York going back decades to back it up.

I'd bet all that switching back and forth as the wind direction changes changed nothing about his viewpoints,political or personal.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-10   12:30:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: TooConservative (#145)

Very classy stuff. Presidential material. Way too principled to play cheap tricks on the public like a P.T. Barnum.

True dat.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-10   12:32:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: A K A Stone (#147)

Kind of like when I say fag lover everyone knows it is you.

No,because they all understand and hear the envy in your voice.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-10   12:34:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: A K A Stone (#148)

You're a liar. Take the day off.

I hate to tell you this,but Santa ain't real,either.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-10   12:35:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: misterwhite (#151)

Nobody, I mean nobody, does Il Duce better than Il Douche.

True,you almost want to see a DNA test made,don't you?

Still,emotionally,politically, and intellectually, Trump is a better match.

Mussolini was a pretty bright guy that wasn't afraid to work. Nobody but black supremacists has ever said Obomber shared those traits.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-10   12:38:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: A K A Stone (#152)

We've talked about this before. Don't lie about stuff that you have already been debunked on. I don't care for liars.

No,you don't care for people that make fun of your crush on The Donald.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-10   12:39:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: A K A Stone (#154)

Just be honest in your rhetoric.

Ok,I am going to ask the same of you. Two simple questions.

1: Do you REALLY believe that Trump puts what is best for America ahead of what is best for Trump?

2: Do you REALLY think a control freak like Trump that is obsessed with his personal weatlh is going to be willing to put his entire financial world in the hands of a blind trust for the 4 to 8 years he would be in office>?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-10   12:43:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: sneakypete (#161)

1: Do you REALLY believe that Trump puts what is best for America ahead of what is best for Trump?

They are one and the same because The Donald is America!

C'mon, ask a hard question.     : )

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-10   13:01:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: sneakypete (#161)

Ok,I am going to ask the same of you. Two simple questions.

1: Do you REALLY believe that Trump puts what is best for America ahead of what is best for Trump?

2: Do you REALLY think a control freak like Trump that is obsessed with his personal weatlh is going to be willing to put his entire financial world in the hands of a blind trust for the 4 to 8 years he would be in office>?

1. Yes. They aren't necessarily different. If business is good for him it is good for us all.

2.There is no law requiring him to put his company in a blind trust.

I'd expect he would let his kids run it. You know Donald Jr and Eric and I forget his daughters name.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-08-10   13:19:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: A K A Stone (#163)

I'd expect he would let his kids run it. You know Donald Jr and Eric and I forget his daughters name.

I think her name is Donaldina.

Or am I just making that up? I can't recall.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-10   13:26:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: A K A Stone (#163) (Edited)

2.There is no law requiring him to put his company in a blind trust.

I think there is. Seems like I read about all the other presidents doing that.

I'd expect he would let his kids run it.

Not a chance. He might let them dip their toes in the water with decisions after consulting him,but now way in hell is he giving up control.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-10   14:45:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: A K A Stone, sneakypete, hondo68, buckeroo, TooConservative (#163)

2.There is no law requiring him to put his company in a blind trust.

I think this needs further discussion for information purposes. I don't know the laws, rules or protocols. I think finances and business ties should not create a conflict of interest if a candidate is elected.

Somehow Cheney distanced himself from Halliburton when he became Veep, then started a war that benefited them greatly. JEB! did something recently by stepping down from some chairman of the board positions so he could run. Like I said, I'm interested in what is proper because I'm not sure.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-08-10   14:46:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: TooConservative, A K A Stone, Vicomte13, tomder55 (#164)

I'd expect he would let his kids run it. You know Donald Jr and Eric and I forget his daughters name. I think her name is Donaldina.

Or am I just making that up? I can't recall.

It appears the heir apparent for Trump's fortunes will be his daughter. I heard somewhere she is well educated and a 'shark' like her father on business deals, but with a whole lot more judgement and brains:) A lot more hair too. I would say she takes after her mom a bit more than The Donald:

Ivanka Marie Trump

Trump attended The Chapin School in New York until age 15,[1] then transferred to and graduated from Choate Rosemary Hall in Wallingford, Connecticut.[2] She spent two years at Georgetown University, then transferred to the Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania, graduating cum laude in 2004 with a B.S. in Economics.

Of course the shameless choice of photo above is so that TC will even consider reading this post:)

"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-10   14:59:09 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: Fred Mertz (#166)

Like I said, I'm interested in what is proper because I'm not sure.

If it's not the law,it should be,and there should be severe penalties for violating it.

Not that any US President will ever face any consequences for anything he has ever done. The Ruling Parties just won't allow it to happen.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-10   15:02:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: redleghunter (#167)

Of course the shameless choice of photo above is so that TC will even consider reading this post:)

Seems to me that she has a lot to smile about.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-10   15:06:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: TooConservative (#145)

You may recall in 2011 when Trump was big on WWE. You may have thought I was kidding about Trump and professional wrestling.

Trump shaved off Vince McMahon's hair after The Donald physically attacked and punched him in the head.

I don't keep up with WWE, but this primary election cycle reminds me of professional wrestling - they've got me glued to the headlines to see who will survive the long campaign. While it likely is already decided by the men behind the curtain.

That WWE Wrestle Mania event looked like it had a packed crowd too.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-08-10   15:21:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: sneakypete (#165)

2.There is no law requiring him to put his company in a blind trust. I think there is. Seems like I read about all the other presidents doing that.

I think they do that because they are afraid of the media saying they have a conflict of interest. Wusses.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-08-10   19:30:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: sneakypete (#165)

Not a chance. He might let them dip their toes in the water with decisions after consulting him,but now way in hell is he giving up control.

And you know that because?

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-08-10   19:31:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: sneakypete (#168)

If it's not the law,it should be,and there should be severe penalties for violating it.

Talk about a control freaks.

I don't know if it is the law I'm just going with my gut.

I'm pretty sure I'm correct though.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-08-10   19:35:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: A K A Stone (#172)

Not a chance. He might let them dip their toes in the water with decisions after consulting him,but now way in hell is he giving up control.

And you know that because?

Because he is a control freak that thinks he is the smartest man in the universe.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-10   20:55:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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