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Title: Trump campaign claims it fired top adviser -- who says he quit
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URL Source: http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/08/polit ... ld-trump-campaign-roger-stone/
Published: Aug 8, 2015
Author: MJ Lee and Dana Bash
Post Date: 2015-08-08 20:21:33 by Tooconservative
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Stone's disassociation from the Trump operation Saturday highlights the campaign's seeming lack of veteran political advisers, even as the 2016 season is ramping up in earnest. And the dispute opens a window into two different factions of the campaign: one side that wants to maintain Trump's high visibility by capitalizing on his public feuds and bombastic rhetoric, and another that wants to pull the candidate toward more disciplined political strategy. The episode caps a tumultuous few weeks for Trump's presidential campaign, which recently cut ties with two men accused of writing inflammatory Facebook posts. Trump, who is currently leading national polls, delivered an explosive performance at the first GOP debate in Cleveland Thursday, and went on to make inflammatory comments about Fox News host Megyn Kelly in an interview on CNN Friday night. "Mr. Trump fired Roger Stone last night. We have a tremendously successful campaign and Roger wanted to use the campaign for his own personal publicity. He has had a number of articles about him recently and Mr. Trump wants to keep the focus of the campaign on how to Make America Great Again," a campaign spokesperson told CNN. Stone, however, told CNN that he "categorically denies" being fired, and provided what he said was his resignation letter. "Unfortunately, the current controversies involving personalities and provocative media fights have reached such a high volume that it has distracted attention from your platform and overwhelmed your core message. With this current direction of the candidacy, I no longer can remain involved in your campaign," the letter to Trump says. Stone added: "I care about you as a friend and wish you well. Be assured I will continue to be vocal and active in the national debate to ensure our nation does not again turn to the failed and distrusted Bush/Clinton families." Trump's campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, said the team never saw Stone's letter. For his part, Stone tweeted Saturday afternoon that he "fired Trump." The Washington Post first reported that Stone was no longer a part of Trump's campaign. Matt Mackowiak, a Republican political consultant and close friend of Stone's, told CNN that Stone was deeply disappointed with Trump's debate performance Thursday. Stone, a former aide to President Richard Nixon who has known Trump for several decades, helped with the candidate's debate preparations. He had hoped that Trump would stay focused and disciplined, sticking largely to issues like illegal immigration and trade. Instead, Stone concluded that Trump had taken the debate to a "circus-like place." The working relationship between Stone and Trump became further strained when Trump made controversial comments about Kelly in an interview with CNN's Don Lemon. "You could see there was blood coming out of her eyes," Trump told Lemon. "Blood coming out of her wherever." "Calling into CNN and making outrageous comments about Megyn Kelly and making it even more of a circus than it already is, Roger just felt like he couldn't stand by him," Mackowiak said. Mackowiak also said Stone had planned to announce his resignation Saturday night, and when Trump got word, the candidate announced he had fired Stone. One Trump associate and friend also told CNN that existing tensions between Stone and Trump reached a breaking point following the candidate's explosive debate performance. "He has been disenchanted with Trump for a few weeks now," the associate said, citing Stone's perception that Trump's candidacy lacked "seriousness." According to this source, Stone was unhappy with Trump's conduct on the debate stage in Cleveland, and when Stone shared these thoughts with Trump, the billionaire businessman "didn't want to hear it." Another Republican source close to Stone said the adviser resigned in part because he grew frustrated with the campaign's refusal to focus on policy specifics and conduct polling. "Roger has been trying to press the campaign to get specific on issues, to poll, to run an actual campaign, while others in Trumpland have been egging him on to continue to engage in these political food fights like the Megyn Kelly incident," the Republican source said. Speaking with CNN's Poppy Harlow late Saturday afternoon, Stone again insisted he quit, saying he felt he "was having no impact." He said he hoped Trump would return to speaking about the "big picture" issues, such as trade and immigration, that helped fuel his rise to the top of GOP polls. But Stone refused to elaborate in greater detail about how his relationship with the campaign ruptured, saying he had "no intention about talking about internal campaign deliberations." He did say, however, that he and Trump remain friends, and although he isn't a registered Republican, said he would continue to back a Trump bid. "If I had the opportunity to vote for him in the primaries, I would," he said. "I still think he is the right man to make America great again." Poster Comment: Roger Stone is Trump's longtime political adviser and ally, going back decades. (CNN)Donald Trump's campaign said Saturday it has fired top political adviser Roger Stone -- who promptly denied being let go and insisted he had quit. "Sorry @realDonaldTrump didn't fire me- I fired Trump. Diasagree [sic] with diversion to food fight with @megynkelly away core issue messages," the tweet read.
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#105. To: Fred Mertz (#101)
The only difference it made is that now people can look at the public records and see who you politically supported. And we have not yet enacted laws to make it illegal to fire people based on their political affiliation. If we are going to have involuntary disclosure of private political contributions, then we need to make it illegal for employers to fire people based on their politics, as a First Amendment matter.
It is anti Christian. Everything about the democrats is anti christian. The fruit of your labor is yours. The Bible teaches a tithe of 10 percent. Not a tax of 50 plus percent for some people. You're surely wrong on this one. No doubt.
I think so, but it is so long ago I can't be certain. I think I have one of those Ronald Reagan signed pictures - mass reproduced for donors - somewhere in one of those basement boxes. It could have been for donating to the RNC. Like I said, boy was I dumb.
The fruit of your labor is yours. The Bible teaches a tithe of 10 percent. Not a tax of 50 plus percent for some people. You're surely wrong on this one. No doubt. Social welfare is mandated by God throughout Scripture. It was always the state and the King's responsibility and it still is. Republican beliefs about money are idolatrous, and they abandon God's commandment of social welfare to serve their idol.
Don't want to jump in but will add a couple of mites:) The 10% tithe should be seen within the context of the Jubilees every 7 years. I am not one to advocate a Mosaic theocracy to run the US. But we learn a lot from the OT and NT on how God expects His ekklesia to treat one another and non-believers in need. I will add there is strong evidence that we are all to work for a living and provide for ourselves and our families. No free rides in the Bible for those who are able of body and mind to work. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
As individuals we are supposed to help those in need. But when the government taxes you so much. You can't always do that. Why should someone who is struggling to make ends meet for their own family. Have to support someone who is able to provide for themselves. Because that is what the democrats are for. They are thieves.
What beliefs that Republicans have are idolatrous? What scripture are you referring to to make your "point"?
I disagree. In both the OT and NT working to support self and family is a bedrock principle. Biden and the Dems support welfare for able bodied people who can work. Welfare in the US is abused and corrupt. There are millions of Americans on welfare while we have immigrants flowing in to take jobs the Americans won't do. In OT Israel people who could not support their families sold themselves to servitude for six years to pay off debt and gain some income. Basically they worked to get food and clothing for their family. They did not sit in homes refusing to work and collecting income. That's the brutal truth of the situation. There are Americans who need assistance who cannot physically or mentally work. That is the focus of the Jewish and Christian charity. Not someone who bought a $500K home and could only afford a $100k home, then foreclosed and is destitute. As with the prodigal son, such should return home to family for restitution. So the Bible does not support able bodied people from not working and receive income from others. It is rather easy for the government to sort out who is in need. But they won't do so because the able of body vote. 2 Thessalonians 3: 6 In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers and sisters, to keep away from every believer who is idle and disruptive and does not live according to the teaching you received from us. 7 For you yourselves know how you ought to follow our example. We were not idle when we were with you, 8 nor did we eat anyone’s food without paying for it. On the contrary, we worked night and day, laboring and toiling so that we would not be a burden to any of you. 9 We did this, not because we do not have the right to such help, but in order to offer ourselves as a model for you to imitate. 10 For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: “The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.” 11 We hear that some among you are idle and disruptive. They are not busy; they are busybodies. 12 Such people we command and urge in the Lord Jesus Christ to settle down and earn the food they eat. 13 And as for you, brothers and sisters, never tire of doing what is good. 14 Take special note of anyone who does not obey our instruction in this letter. Do not associate with them, in order that they may feel ashamed. 15 Yet do not regard them as an enemy, but warn them as you would a fellow believer. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
For Jews. Not Christians. Tithing was the law under the Old Covenant that passed away with the crucifixion of Jesus. Here is a typical treatment of the subject of tithing in scripture. Only two mentions in the New Testament, neither indicates that tithing was required of the early Christian churches. Grace Ministries: Is Tithing Required in the New Covenant?
Maybe maybe not. I'm not sure.
11 We hear that some among you are idle and disruptive. They are not busy; they are busybodies. 12 Such people we command and urge in the Lord Jesus Christ to settle down and earn the food they eat. 13 And as for you, brothers and sisters, never tire of doing what is good. 14 Take special note of anyone who does not obey our instruction in this letter. Do not associate with them, in order that they may feel ashamed. 15 Yet do not regard them as an enemy, but warn them as you would a fellow believer. Unrefutable. Checkmate.
Of course not. But our capitalist system, dominated by the Republican and Democrat Party, have sent our jobs to China and Indonesia, to India and Korea and Japan. There are millions upon millions of Americans who WANT TO WORK, but cannot find work that will sustain themselves and their families, because nobody will hire them. Nobody will hire them BECAUSE "free" traders have used the political system to find the cheapest labor price - and imported the labor that can't be outsourced - in order to maximize the profits to a handful of capitalists. In 1976, 50% of the nation's wealth was in the hands of the top 20%. Today, 85% is in the hands of the top 10%. Idolators say that by saying this I am looking to "steal". No. THOSE PEOPLE STOLE to concentrate that wealth. They did not get it through "work". They got it through buying politicians who passed laws that systematically stripped Americans of jobs because we are "too expensive", and shipping the jobs overseas, or opening the border and transporting in millions of illegals. That is what happened, and everybody KNOWS that is what happened if they think about it. If somebody tells you that that's not what happened, he is a liar, and liars are damned by God. See Revelation. So, we have a system in which the rulers - the very rich and their bribed politicians, hold the American people underwater and drown them economically, so they CANNOT GET WORK IF THEY WANT IT, and the work they can get cannot provide for their families. And then you get these dogs, these filthy idolators, who blame the victims, blame the poor struggling people who have been drowned by corruption and laws that throw millions out of work. People have the right to the fruits of their LABOR, after paying taxes to God, but nobody as the right to the fruits of INTEREST ON MONEY, because that is a sin, and nobody has the right to the fruits of theft, which is what it is when men with money corrupt politicians to favor policies that crush out American industry and replace the workers here with foreigners here and there, solely because the foreigners are unprotected and work for peanuts. All of that wealth accumulation IS NOT THE FRUIT OF LABOR. The people at the top got it through the sin of usury, and the sin of theft. It is entirely right, just and godly to force restitution of theft, and to deprive thieves and usurers and idolators of the fruits of their illegal and immoral profits. But even then, you don't here me calling "Off with their heads!" No. I simply demand that, if we're going to allow these crony capitalists to make money by charging usury and crushing out jobs, that the social safety network then must be created, by taxing away their wealth, to pay for the food, housing, medicine and education of all of those people that the usurers and corrupt thieves have driven out of work and home. It's as simple as that. Either you crush out usury, which is a sin, and you crush out the money corruption that causes a few to seek profit at the expense of the ABILITY of Americans to work - you impose rules that prevent those things OR, if you will not do that, then you impose fines, in the form of taxes, on those top one percenters who, through their usury and corruption, have beggared their brothers, sisters and neighbors. The super-rich in America did not get there through honest hard work. They got their through usury and political corruption. Their massive concentration of wealth sucks the oxygen out of the room, puts people out of work so that millions upon millions CANNOT PROVIDE FOR THEMSELVES. THERE ARE NO JOBS, and this is the PRODUCT of the policies that the super-rich have imposed, and NOT because people are "lazy" or "stupid". The people have been ROBBED by theft and usury - corruption that has been imposed by the wealth through the law. That is what happened. That is the truth. And it is sin, it is siding with evil, to refuse to face the truth. "Well, all that's true, but it's still wrong to redistribute that stolen wealth to make a safety net for the people who were robbed." That is the Republican argument. It is evil. It is wrong. It is from Satan. It is not Christian, and the people who persist in it, in spite of the truth, are agents of hell, not Christians at all. I am simply tired of hearing it. We have to have a social safety net because our government is corrupt and lets the wealthy set rules in a way that literally has crushed out millions of jobs and redistributed 35% of the national wealth to a handful of people in the space of 30 years. That is not "hard work". That is theft, borne of deceit, in the service of money. It's idolatry, it is sin. And social welfare is the only answer to address the hideous want that this has plunged millions of people into. There is no other way. And these "Christians" are not even PROPOSING another way. They blame the victims of theft and usury. They lie, calling them "lazy" and other names. Their mouths spew lies. They are agents of hell, and they need to be faced and cast out from the community of the faithful, because what they preach is idolatry of money and power. Evil, wicked men, not men of God. Perhaps they are deluded, but delusion only goes so far. God eventually reached down and opened Saul's eyes, yes, but until he did, Saul was an evil follower of Satan, and he deserved death. Only by repentance did he become a child of God, and even then, because of his thoroughly evil past and his despicable past acts, many never accepted him - and God never criticized them in Scripture for not accepting him. Instead, God saw too it that he was sent to preach to people whom he had NOT harmed, and God left him wounded, with a thorn in his flesh, his whole life. And God made him go through the terror of a bloody execution, just as he himself had done to Christians. Paul was redeemed, but his redemption did not cancel out his past acts, and he still paid for his bloody, foul murders by being himself hauled out and bloodily murdered. Paul repented of his evil. But these "Christians" who hate poor people and who worship at the altar of money, of usury, of theft, they don't even repent. They don't even think they are wrong. And they hector the good. I am not a "socialist". I speak the words that God said. The "Christians" who don't like that are not Christians at all. They just think they are. That's the way it is. It is a terrible thing that we have to fight so, but we do. Millions of people need a social safety net because they have been robbed by the government through its laws. They will perish without that safety net or suffer terribly. They CANNOT just "go get jobs" because the centerpiece of the robbery was putting them out of work for cheap pagan foreign labor. "Christians" denying Christians the ability to provide for themselves pursuing the savings found by employing pagans who are little better than slaves in their own country. It is inexcusable, and Christians - the real kind - need to man up now and stop making excuses for it. And stop blaming the victims. To blame the victims here is a lie, a demonstrable lie. And lies are damned. The King was required to provide social welfare. We had a revolution. WE are the King now. It falls upon us, then, to provide for our brothers, sisters, neighbors. We cannot shirk it. And we cannot lie and pretend that redistributive taxation, which is at the top taking the fruits of USURY and CORRUPTION and redistributing them back to the very people who were robbed - we cannot pretend that this is "theft", because it manifestly IS NOT.
Come on that is a load of crap. You can work at McDonalds and live better then most people throughtout history. Also more to the point. Nobody owes anyone a job. Create your own job. You can make money if you try. The people in Jesus's day didn't have it as easy as people today and they were expected to provide for themselves. Also Jesus's words are timeless. God knew what the world would be like in the future. He still said if you are idle and don't work you don't eat. I'm not talking about the disabled or crippled. They should be taken care of by the free will giving of good people.
Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Donald Trump?
I'm not blaming the victim. You make good points about the export of jobs, yet jobs still exist. I know of two friends who work well below their skill sets for less money than they made a few years back. They could live off of welfare but don't. Because there are jobs out there to keep hands busy and support families. Most choose the path of least resistance and that is condemned in the Bible too. When we sift the wheat from chaff in the USA, truly needy families pale in comparison to poverty stricken parts of the world. Most Americans know that and focus their charity outside the USA. Why? Because they know the federal government will support people in this country who can work and won't. If you are correct and there are no jobs to employ those of able body, then why not bring back the works programs which FDR put in place? If you get your support from the federal government then do some work for that support. For example you are an out of work electrician, do that until a job opens in a postal office or city hall? Meets the requirement to work for your own bread. A smaller example is the Gospel Mission home my friend runs. They house former drug addicts, convicts and homeless trying to change their lot in life. The mission home works to find them jobs but until that happens they work on projects in the mission home. From administrative work, to carpentry, computer networking, janitorial work and in some cases work to get medical licences reinstated. They eat from the table of the church and if they choose attend services. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
I still have mine of Dean Martin when he ran for President!! :o A very apt observation. He even has the same self-satisfied smirk on his face as Il Duce. Maybe somebody will photo shop Trumps face on the famous photo of Il Duce with that smirk on his face in uniform with the hat,and title it "El Douche"? If I had photo shop it would already be done. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Desperation is never pretty. Or do you think like-long NYC denizen and trust fund child Trump has experience with snake bites? Maybe one of his bodyguards or servants was bitten by a snake? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
You mean he voted for them? Oh, wait. He wasn't a Congressman at the time, he was a businessman. That's just pathetic. Do you blow him,also? Or maybe you don't understand the definition of "supported"? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
You are speaking about the carney freak with the orange hair and her in the same sentence,and SHE is the one that is unbalanced????? Un-freaking believable! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Kinda reminds you of Jim Rob and Bush-Bot Republic,doesn't it? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Ahhh,you must be a Muslim. They think menstrual periods are dirty,also. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I can't wait for some reporter to ask him about this during a tv interview,and watch him having a hissy fit over it. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Well,once you give him your money,it becomes HIS money. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Trump is a life-long Dim,and only became a Republican because he can now run for president without pissing off any of his Dim friends in NYC. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Just think,if "The Donald" is elected,North Koreans will be making fun of OUR leader,and have standing to do so. Who else could make Kim Jong-un look sane and moderate by comparison? Hell,Trump makes him look to be modest by comparison. He even already has his own personal Cult of Personality. I wonder if we will be required to refer to him as "Illustrious Leader" if he is elected? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Just out of curiosity,what with you being a macho man that hates Islam and thinks they are afraid of you,now that you are retired from the cops,why aren't you wearing a Army uniform and serving in the Muddle East? Go over there and show them who's the boss! You're not one of those "All hat,no horse" cowboys,are you? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when itÂ’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
EVERYBODY that supported and still supports Boy Jorge's invasion to save the Sauds? Do I win anything for having the correct answer? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Absolutely! My writing essentially the same thing during the build up to "Protect Saudi Arabia by invading Iraq" was what finally got me booted for life from FR. The Bush Bots were all getting the vapors,including Jim Rob. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Not really. The SS and her other bodyguards won't let those cretins get within shouting range of her,and JJ,Sharpie,and all the other Poverty Pimps will give her public cover because they want to keep those government checks rolling in. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
You may not realize it,but you highlighted WHY you like him with the 1st 4 words in the sentence above. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Hey! If you can't trust a compulsive liar and raging ego-maniac like Trump to tell the truth about himself,who can you trust,right? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Brilliant. A side-by-side, Il Duce 1924 and El Douche 2015 as the captions? Maybe a WWE spoof of Donald "The Donald" Trump vs. Vlad "the Mad Russian" Putin? You could even go shirtless since that's Vlad thing anyway.
Maybe "Beloved Leader". Or "El Supremo". You really do start to wonder what people think they will get by following this Pied Piper. How do they not see that this has to be a put-up job. The Xlintons (or the Bushes) are probably behind it. The people who say the last thing they want is another Bush as nominee are virtually guaranteeing it will happen.
That was my thought. Maybe a WWE spoof of Donald "The Donald" Trump vs. Vlad "the Mad Russian" Putin? You could even go shirtless since that's Vlad thing anyway. I love it! Especially if there were a video that showed Trumps bodyguards getting in the ring to fight Putin's bodyguards,because we all know "The Donald" will never personally fight anyone physically,and Putin would kick his ass in a micro-second. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
He was a Nixon-era Republican. Certainly one of the old northeast liberal Republican crowd. He started flirting with a third-party run as a Reform candidate or an indy candidate back in the Nineties. Then he became a Dim during the Bush years but says he voted for the Stain in '08 and then changed to GOP registration (again) in 2009. At least that's my recollection. Someone (TMZ?) did a piece on his history and published all his voter registration documents in New York going back decades to back it up.
I think most of them are just so disgusted by "politics as usual" and the usual worthless suspects running for office they would support practically anyone they see as an outsider. Which is where they are making their mistake. Trump is anything but a outsider. He has been a player behind the scenes in Dim politics since birth,thanks to his grandfather and father. He might as well be a Roosevelt or a Kennedy. I suspect the common thought is "That's going to happen anyhow,so no harm caused by supporting that creep". Sadly,they are probably right on that one. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I've been surprised by the utter fascination with Trump's hair. Even Romney's silky coif never got so much attention. Trump's hair is an object of extreme public fascination. It's so mysterious apparently. And there are an endless variety of opinions about it, much like Trump himself.
I don't think it is a case of fascination as much as it is a visual shorthand adjective used to describe him so that people who don't follow politics or the media very closely will immediately know who you are talking about. You say "dyed orange possum hair",and everybody,even school children know who you are talking about. Like when you say "Lady Lindsey" everybody knows it's Graham, "Fat boy" they know you are talking about Christie,or "nasty evil old fat bitch",everybody knows you are talking about Bubbette!. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Google Images has an entire section of Donald Trump hair pictures. They are further broken down into Trump hair subcategories with a Tutorial category (how to do a four-way Donald Trump comb-over/comb-under) and so on. TIME:
You may recall in 2011 when Trump was big on WWE. You may have thought I was kidding about Trump and professional wrestling. Trump shaved off Vince McMahon's hair after The Donald physically attacked and punched him in the head. Very classy stuff. Presidential material. Way too principled to play cheap tricks on the public like a P.T. Barnum.
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#106. To: Vicomte13 (#103)
Their view of social welfare is Christian.
#107. To: A K A Stone (#104)
Did you donate to Reagan? If you did you made a difference.
#108. To: A K A Stone (#106)
It is anti Christian. Everything about the democrats is anti christian.
#109. To: Vicomte13, A K A Stone (#108)
#110. To: Vicomte13 (#108)
Social welfare is mandated by God throughout Scripture.
#111. To: Vicomte13 (#108)
Republican beliefs about money are idolatrous
#112. To: Vicomte13, A K A Stone (#103)
My view on Biden, and Democrats in general, is that they are better on economics in general. Their view of social welfare is Christian.
#113. To: A K A Stone (#106)
The Bible teaches a tithe of 10 percent.
#114. To: TooConservative (#113)
For Jews. Not Christians. Tithing was the law under the Old Covenant that passed away with the crucifixion of Jesus.
#115. To: redleghunter, vicmonte13 (#112)
6 In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers and sisters, to keep away from every believer who is idle and disruptive and does not live according to the teaching you received from us. 7 For you yourselves know how you ought to follow our example. We were not idle when we were with you, 8 nor did we eat anyone’s food without paying for it. On the contrary, we worked night and day, laboring and toiling so that we would not be a burden to any of you. 9 We did this, not because we do not have the right to such help, but in order to offer ourselves as a model for you to imitate. 10 For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: “The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.”
#116. To: redleghunter (#109)
I will add there is strong evidence that we are all to work for a living and provide for ourselves and our families. No free rides in the Bible for those who are able of body and mind to work.
#117. To: Vicomte13 (#116)
There are millions upon millions of Americans who WANT TO WORK, but cannot find work that will sustain themselves and their families, because nobody will hire them.
#118. To: Vicomte13 (#116)
The super-rich in America did not get there through honest hard work. They got their through usury and political corruption.
#119. To: Vicomte13, A K A Stone (#116)
#120. To: Fred Mertz, A K A Stone, sneakypete, redleghunter (#107)
I think I have one of those Ronald Reagan signed pictures - mass reproduced for donors - somewhere in one of those basement boxes.
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#121. To: TooConservative (#6)
Trump seems to be running for prez as Il Duce II, an American Mussolini.
#122. To: misterwhite (#12)
Snake venom causes a person to bleed from their eyes and nose. To say that a person is bleeding from their eyes and nose is to imply they're full of venom.
#123. To: misterwhite (#17)
"Trump supported the big bank bailouts. Trump supported the Kelo decision."
#124. To: buckeroo (#29)
Megyn Kelly was unfair and unbalanced; Trump picked upped on it quickly, too.
#125. To: TooConservative, A K A Stone (#33)
Maybe you want LF to become an all-Trump-all-the-time forum.
#126. To: misterwhite (#36)
Trump wasn't going in that direction. Unlike your dirty mind
#127. To: Fred Mertz (#39)
He brags so much about his wealth and success that I can't see very many of the little people donating to his campaign.
#128. To: TooConservative (#42)
What about his promise to self-fund himself entirely?
#129. To: misterwhite (#43)
Show America Fox can hate Republicans just as much as the other networks!
#130. To: buckeroo, TooConservative (#52)
Trump is a phreak of nature and can not run the nation. He has consistently demonstrated nothing more than a BIG MOUTH.
#131. To: GrandIsland (#59)
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
#132. To: misterwhite, *Military or Vets Affairs* (#61)
Show of hands. Who wants to wait for another 9-11?
#133. To: TooConservative (#63)
We pursued the regime change agenda that was formalized in the late Nineties against Saddam. Nothing more. The ruling classes had plentiful information that Saddam was in no way connected to the 9/11 attacks. Saddam was used as a whipping boy to hide the extent of Wahhabist ideology exported across the region in the 9/11 attack. And that threat has not subsided
#134. To: TooConservative (#68)
If they aren't working for Xlinton, they're a threat to her public appearances too.
#135. To: Pericles (#76)
he literally is horrible at it but I fucking like the guy
#136. To: misterwhite (#87)
"Out of hundreds of deals that I've done — hundreds! — on four occasions, I've taken advantage of the laws of this country like other people," Trump said."
#137. To: sneakypete (#121)
Maybe somebody will photo shop Trumps face on the famous photo of Il Duce with that smirk on his face in uniform with the hat,and title it "El Douche"?
#138. To: sneakypete (#130)
He even already has his own personal Cult of Personality. I wonder if we will be required to refer to him as "Illustrious Leader" if he is elected?
#139. To: TooConservative (#137)
Brilliant. A side-by-side, Il Duce 1924 and El Douche 2015 as the captions?
#140. To: sneakypete (#129)
Trump is a life-long Dim,and only became a Republican because he can now run for president without pissing off any of his Dim friends in NYC.
#141. To: TooConservative (#138)
You really do start to wonder what people think they will get by following this Pied Piper. How do they not see that this has to be a put-up job. The Xlintons (or the Bushes) are probably behind it.
#142. To: sneakypete (#139)
#143. To: TooConservative (#142)
I've been surprised by the utter fascination with Trump's hair.
#144. To: sneakypete (#143)
#145. To: sneakypete, Fred Mertz, buckeroo (#143)
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