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Title: Trump campaign claims it fired top adviser -- who says he quit
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URL Source: http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/08/polit ... ld-trump-campaign-roger-stone/
Published: Aug 8, 2015
Author: MJ Lee and Dana Bash
Post Date: 2015-08-08 20:21:33 by Tooconservative
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Views: 17732
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Stone's disassociation from the Trump operation Saturday highlights the campaign's seeming lack of veteran political advisers, even as the 2016 season is ramping up in earnest. And the dispute opens a window into two different factions of the campaign: one side that wants to maintain Trump's high visibility by capitalizing on his public feuds and bombastic rhetoric, and another that wants to pull the candidate toward more disciplined political strategy. The episode caps a tumultuous few weeks for Trump's presidential campaign, which recently cut ties with two men accused of writing inflammatory Facebook posts. Trump, who is currently leading national polls, delivered an explosive performance at the first GOP debate in Cleveland Thursday, and went on to make inflammatory comments about Fox News host Megyn Kelly in an interview on CNN Friday night. "Mr. Trump fired Roger Stone last night. We have a tremendously successful campaign and Roger wanted to use the campaign for his own personal publicity. He has had a number of articles about him recently and Mr. Trump wants to keep the focus of the campaign on how to Make America Great Again," a campaign spokesperson told CNN. Stone, however, told CNN that he "categorically denies" being fired, and provided what he said was his resignation letter. "Unfortunately, the current controversies involving personalities and provocative media fights have reached such a high volume that it has distracted attention from your platform and overwhelmed your core message. With this current direction of the candidacy, I no longer can remain involved in your campaign," the letter to Trump says. Stone added: "I care about you as a friend and wish you well. Be assured I will continue to be vocal and active in the national debate to ensure our nation does not again turn to the failed and distrusted Bush/Clinton families." Trump's campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, said the team never saw Stone's letter. For his part, Stone tweeted Saturday afternoon that he "fired Trump." The Washington Post first reported that Stone was no longer a part of Trump's campaign. Matt Mackowiak, a Republican political consultant and close friend of Stone's, told CNN that Stone was deeply disappointed with Trump's debate performance Thursday. Stone, a former aide to President Richard Nixon who has known Trump for several decades, helped with the candidate's debate preparations. He had hoped that Trump would stay focused and disciplined, sticking largely to issues like illegal immigration and trade. Instead, Stone concluded that Trump had taken the debate to a "circus-like place." The working relationship between Stone and Trump became further strained when Trump made controversial comments about Kelly in an interview with CNN's Don Lemon. "You could see there was blood coming out of her eyes," Trump told Lemon. "Blood coming out of her wherever." "Calling into CNN and making outrageous comments about Megyn Kelly and making it even more of a circus than it already is, Roger just felt like he couldn't stand by him," Mackowiak said. Mackowiak also said Stone had planned to announce his resignation Saturday night, and when Trump got word, the candidate announced he had fired Stone. One Trump associate and friend also told CNN that existing tensions between Stone and Trump reached a breaking point following the candidate's explosive debate performance. "He has been disenchanted with Trump for a few weeks now," the associate said, citing Stone's perception that Trump's candidacy lacked "seriousness." According to this source, Stone was unhappy with Trump's conduct on the debate stage in Cleveland, and when Stone shared these thoughts with Trump, the billionaire businessman "didn't want to hear it." Another Republican source close to Stone said the adviser resigned in part because he grew frustrated with the campaign's refusal to focus on policy specifics and conduct polling. "Roger has been trying to press the campaign to get specific on issues, to poll, to run an actual campaign, while others in Trumpland have been egging him on to continue to engage in these political food fights like the Megyn Kelly incident," the Republican source said. Speaking with CNN's Poppy Harlow late Saturday afternoon, Stone again insisted he quit, saying he felt he "was having no impact." He said he hoped Trump would return to speaking about the "big picture" issues, such as trade and immigration, that helped fuel his rise to the top of GOP polls. But Stone refused to elaborate in greater detail about how his relationship with the campaign ruptured, saying he had "no intention about talking about internal campaign deliberations." He did say, however, that he and Trump remain friends, and although he isn't a registered Republican, said he would continue to back a Trump bid. "If I had the opportunity to vote for him in the primaries, I would," he said. "I still think he is the right man to make America great again." Poster Comment: Roger Stone is Trump's longtime political adviser and ally, going back decades. (CNN)Donald Trump's campaign said Saturday it has fired top political adviser Roger Stone -- who promptly denied being let go and insisted he had quit. "Sorry @realDonaldTrump didn't fire me- I fired Trump. Diasagree [sic] with diversion to food fight with @megynkelly away core issue messages," the tweet read.
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Stone is the second Trump adviser to leave in the last 10 days. Apparenty, Trump now only has his corporate lawyer and his campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski. And some campaign spokesbabe, well, unless she's bleeding from somewhere and can't come to the microphone. A photo of Roger Stone. Some might recall that in the Nineties, Stone was in a swingers club scandal. When he was younger, he had a physique and dressed and lived like a James Bond jetset type, the whole Playboy lifestyle thing from the Sixties and Seventies. Politico says two other Trump campaign insiders have confirmed that Stone quit and was not fired first. They also report this conversation between Trump and Stone on Friday morning. Trump: What do you mean? I won the debate. People loved it. Stone: You didn't win the debate. Trump: Yes I did. Look at the polling. Look at Drudge. Stone: The Drudge Report poll isn't a scientific poll. You won't give me the money to pay for a scientific poll. And you're off-message. Trump: There are other polls. Stone: Those are bullsh*t polls, Donald. They're not scientific polls. We need to run a professional campaign and talk about what people really care about. Trump: We're winning.
"The Donald" is just so gosh-darn wonderful that NOBODY would ever quit working for him!
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
In addition to being an egomaniac, Trump is a control freak. I can't imagine him being president...dictator maybe.
Trump is right: he is winning. Stone is an old political hack. Nixon. NIXON, for God's sake. Trump needs to stick with his instincts and carry himself forward. He had the only substantive policy proposal of the debate: health insurance common market. He needs to keep doing that: keep punching the people who need to get punched, and keep giving a policy view or two. He's forcing the GOP to decide whether or not they want to actually win the election. So far, it looks like they care more about retaining control of their party internally than winning.
Now that Stone is off Team Trump, we have a total nobody with a poor record as his campaign manager. (Corey Lewandowski) His other primary surrogate is Michael Cohen, his main corporate lawyer and VP at the Trump Organization. It only devolved from there. In the early morning hours on Friday, his Twitter account tweeted that Kelly was “not very good or professional”and retweeted anti-Kelly tweets from supporters, including one calling her a “bimbo.” Trump’s deputy and surrogate, Michael Cohen, retweeted a tweet from a Trump fan (@hawaiiluvstrump) after the debate that included the hashtag “boycottmegynkelly” and the message “we can gut her.” Trump: "bimbo". Lawyer: "we can gut her". This is, BTW, the same "lawyer" who is on record as saying recently that a man (Trump) cannot rape his own wife. Beyond his obvious incompetence as a lawyer in such a statement, when he gets called out for lying or for the kind of crap he tweets around, Cohen always resorts to saying that he's just a Trump employee, not part of the campaign. I guess if Megyn Kelly is "bleeding from somewhere" that it's okay to "gut her" as well. Oh, but Cohen is just a Trump employee, nothing more. Trump has some lovely associates. For all of Trump's bluster, I think Forbes is correct when they insist that Trump is worth no more than $5 billion and that his liquid assets (cash on hand) is in the range of $300M. Which is not enough to win the nomination, let alone the general election. I think you probably know most of this already and simply like the idea of a GOP defeat a lot more than you actually want Trump to be prez. But what if Trump does run third-party and his Blue state audience only hurts Hitlery and the Dims? It is not an impossible outcome at all. It might even be the likely outcome. Trump's biggest fanbois are working class people in the liberal eastern seaboard states.
More of the "very best" campaign staff that Trump has recruited. Tana Goertz, his campaign co-chair in the battleground state, said that she was not offended by Trump's suggestion that Kelly asked him tough questions because there was 'blood coming out of her wherever'. Goertz instead said the abuse is part of political debate, saying: 'If you mess with the bull you're going to get the horns, sweetheart'. Very classy, totally first class. Trump seems to be running for prez as Il Duce II, an American Mussolini. A crude man with crude associates and staff.
Are you on your period today? That would explain your nonsense.
So who's gonna be the moderator for the next GOP debate.... Jerry Springer?
You get so angry when I post info about Trump's statements, history and his so-called campaign staff. At some point, you'll have to ask yourself why you are supporting a clown that forces you to defend so much amateurism and being an obnoxious blowhard. Don't you deserve a better candidate than Trump?
Trump would do just fine. Cruz would too. Except Cruz isn't as good on the ec economy. He supported the trade deal. I prefer Trump to Hillary every day of the week. You on the other hand would sit out and let Hillary win because she is basically Bush in drag.
Trump supported the big bank bailouts. Trump supported the Kelo decision. You can't say the same for Cruz. I don't see why exactly you think Trump is better than Cruz. Cruz has had some problems of his own with running his mouth a little too much but he is a much more credible candidate than Trump. Trump does draw more support from Cruz than from any other GOP candidate, a perfect illustration of how supporting Trump now leads to a Bush victory after Florida in the same way that all the frontrunners-of-the-week in 2012 did nothing to stop Romney from the nomination, they just delayed his nomination and made Romney weaker in the general election, giving Obama an easy victory.
Snake venom causes a person to bleed from their eyes and nose. To say that a person is bleeding from their eyes and nose is to imply they're full of venom. An appropriate phrase given the circumstances. Trump merely forgot the second part. It's ridiculous that people are making such a big deal about it. I think if he meant to imply she was hormonal he would have come straight out and said, "Man, she must be on the rag".
What's obnoxious is...a amateurish, blowhard of a divisive, destructive President who believes he is King...and the Dem Party AND Republican Party acting as if he IS King. After careful consideration, the giant CLOWN CAR ACT that has actually been the Republican Party....has been FIRED. You are familiar with the definition of "insanity", right? How can you possibly STILL believe this process, TC? The parties have colluded in protecting obvious oligarchical monopoly of power. The GOP doesn't care about policies that affect their constituencies. And you can't see that? The USA isn't even a nation anymore, it's a Corporation. It's CEO is...The President. We've see it over and over again -- corporate heads and media get summoned to the White Hut to discuss....exactly how to best SCREW us while making the Prez and DC politics look...well, sane. Trump provides an alternative to...the Same Old Sh*t. Donald Trump threatens this entire SCAM.
Cruz is better on some things and Trump is better on some things. They are both better better then everyone else running. Cruz supports NSA to much. He supported the Iraq war didn't he? Trump didn't. You didn't either did you?
Megan Kelly that fag pretend marriage supporter did behave like some type of Viki Viking berserker. I notice that Wallace is pretty much getting a pass for his behavior. He was ap appalling too. The evil smirk on his face when he asked Trump questions. Screw that asshole too.
Yes there were frontrunners for a week. A week not two months. This is more like Bush in 1999 when he was the frontrunner the whole time. That is a more proper analogy. Since Trump has been front runner longer then anyone in 2012 except Romney.
Cruz would be a good choice ... if he was eligible to be President. Alas, he's foreign born. "Trump supported the big bank bailouts. Trump supported the Kelo decision." You mean he voted for them? Oh, wait. He wasn't a Congressman at the time, he was a businessman. Your shocking revelation is that a businessman supported those decisions? Gasp! How could he?
An appropriate phrase given the circumstances. Trump merely forgot the second part. It's ridiculous that people are making such a big deal about it. Can you actually cite a single instance of a hostile interviewer being described as "bleeding from the nose"? "Bleeding from the eyes" is pretty uncommon as a phrase. But bleeding from ass or vagina both have quite a few various phrases to describe them. And Trump was talking about a woman that was being hostile to him. Connect the dots. Stop making such silly excuses for your anti-hero. At least, don't expect sane people to take you seriously. He caught himself before he went that far. Any kid over the age of ten knows what he was saying about her.
I didn't realize women bled from their eyes when they were on their periods. Thanks for the scientific advancement.
So maybe Trump was saying Bush was giving it to her up the ass?
Just my phrase. Cain lasted for over a month. Gingrich about the same. And Santorum as the rear guard pick of anyone-but-Romney voters. But in the end, Romney overcame them all easily. The longer you guys diddle yourselves with Trump's latest crude and indefensible remarks, the more easy it will be for Bush to consolidate his fundraising and deep party elite support to seize the nomination. If you intend to stop Bush, you need a real and credible candidate now. Or you'll waste your time on Trump who will be forced out of the race (or run third party) and Bush will be the nominee, leading to the Bush/Xlinton match we all dread.
I am getting a clearer picture of you. A metrosexual beta.
How about she was all butt-hurt from her humiliations by Trump? Maybe Teh Donald was the one who left her bleeding from the ass. I think that the correct surmise of Trump's insult was "she was on the rag toward me". That is what he meant but didn't have the guts to just finish saying in public.
I'm scoring hits and you know it. That's why you have to resort to crude insults, hoping to silence me.
Trump's not doing any Fox appearances today. Ha! With friends like them ...
You're just an amusing typical GOPe type. If I wanted to silence you. I'd just push a button.
I believe 4 of the first 5 Republican primary states ended up voting for Obama. So what kind of Republican candidate did you think we'd get? The kind where 8 million Republican voters stayed home on election night.
If he is still number one at the next Fox debate. He should skip it and nobody will watch it.
So what? Megyn beggd him on into a meaningless discussion; moreover, she did not do so with any other candidate despite the topic. Let us put it plainly for all to know: Megyn Kelly was unfair and unbalanced; Trump picked upped on it quickly, too.
I think two (IA, NV) are caucus states. NH (open primary) and SC (closed primary) had primaries. And FL moved its election up illegally and awarded its delegates illegally (by RNC rules). The early states are annoying in how the primaries are run. They're all pretty corrupt.
Oh My Gawd!
If Trump was the GOP nominee, libmedia and the Dems and Hitlery would go crazy with their War On Womyn meme. If Donald Drumpf cannot handle a few factual questions in his first debate, he isn't ready for primetime. And he never was. And there's no room for improvement because Trump is too cheap to hire real campaign talent and too arrogant to take their advice. If Trump only has $300M in liquid assets (Forbes, other sources), he won't be able to self-fund a full campaign. What has surprised me is that he is trying to run for prez spending nothing. Even Perot could cough up $50 million or so.
You probably will. Never slowed me down at TOS or LP. Maybe you want LF to become an all-Trump-all-the-time forum.
No it didn't. States can have their primaries any time they want to. The RNC doesn't dictate what is illegal.
He has apparently cowed the morning crew at FNC. Recall his regular Monday appearances on FNC's morning show for years. The hard news FNC people are rallying around Kelly, as are all the other GOP candidates. Even Cruz.
Why is that necessary? "And Trump was talking about a woman that was being hostile to him." Unless you're a sexist, so what? Do you think she wants to be treated like a serious reporter or as a woman? She can't step into the political arena, and when things get uncomfortable hide behind her gender. "But bleeding from ass or vagina both have quite a few various phrases to describe them." But none of those phrases start with "Bleeding from the eyes and ...". YOU connect the dots. Trump wasn't going in that direction. Unlike your dirty mind.
You probably will. Never slowed me down at TOS or LP. Except for the fact that you are one of many individuals I have never deleted your p your posts. Banned you. Or gave you a timeout. Unlike say buckaroo. Don't intend to either. You carry yourself well. You are civil. That is your pers personality. They are good traits. I couldn't see myself ever banning you, cons considering they way you act. I may rip you a lot lately. But I don't dislike you. Ok maybe sometimes you ir irritate me. More lately. But that is ok. Have a good day. I'm going to go swim in the Gulf of Mexico.
Trump is begging the American People for a little help as his tin can is open for a few bucks now. See the little "donate" button on his web page --> https://www.donaldjtrump.com/?
He brags so much about his wealth and success that I can't see very many of the little people donating to his campaign.
While it is kind of a muddy process, Florida is assigned a date that it cannot set earlier for its primary. This is to prevent the usual first states (IA/NH/NV/SC) from continuing to move their primary/caucus events earlier and earlier. Otherwise, people in those states would be voting in December or October as other states keep trying to jump the line. Florida also broke the rule by announcing the results in delegates as winner-take-all. All the state parties agreed to the RNC formula that only some of the early states get to run winner-take-all contests and that Florida must use proportional representation. These are matters to which all the state parties agree as part of the debates, primaries and convention system. In both 2008 and 2012, Florida was penalized half of its delegates. As it turned out, they did seat them anyway. Priebus and the RNC are determined that it will not happen again in 2016. No date-jumping, no winner-take-all for Florida. Every state does hold its caucus/primary independently. But they follow RNC rules if they want their delegates fully accredited to the convention which is the only place they can cast their vote for the party's nominee. Legally, Florida lost half of their delegates in the last two elections. Had Santorum or another challenger like Gingrich gotten close enough to winning the nomination, they would have had half of Florida's delegates thrown out of the convention. To do anything else with Florida, the first big state, would be to allow Florida total control over who the GOP nominates for prez.
Sounds sweet. I'm a little jealous. This weekend, I recorded Jaws (a very funny movie) and Sharknado I, Sharknado II, and Sharknado III. So watch out for sharks. Especially sharks flying around in tornadoes biting people.
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Stone: Donald, stop with the Megyn Kelly sh*t. It's f**king crazy. It's killing us.
#2. To: TooConservative (#0)
#3. To: TooConservative (#0)
According to this source, Stone was unhappy with Trump's conduct on the debate stage in Cleveland, and when Stone shared these thoughts with Trump, the billionaire businessman "didn't want to hear it."
#4. To: TooConservative (#1)
#5. To: Vicomte13 (#4)
After the debate, Trump said Kelly “behaved very nasty to me.”
#6. To: Vicomte13 (#4)
A Donald Trump official leading his political campaign in Iowa has said his attacks on Fox News host Megyn Kelly are 'fair game'.
#7. To: TooConservative (#6)
#8. To: Fred Mertz (#3)
#9. To: A K A Stone (#7)
Are you on your period today? That would explain your nonsense.
#10. To: TooConservative (#9)
Don't you deserve a better candidate than Trump?
#11. To: A K A Stone (#10)
Trump would do just fine. Cruz would too. Except Cruz isn't as good on the ec economy. He supported the trade deal.
#12. To: TooConservative (#6)
#13. To: TooConservative, A K A Stone (#9)
At some point, you'll have to ask yourself why you are supporting a clown that forces you to defend so much amateurism and being an obnoxious blowhard.
#14. To: TooConservative (#11)
I don't see why exactly you think Trump is better than Cruz.
#15. To: misterwhite (#12)
#16. To: TooConservative (#11)
frontrunners-of-the-week
#17. To: TooConservative (#11)
"You can't say the same for Cruz."
#18. To: misterwhite (#12)
Snake venom causes a person to bleed from their eyes and nose. To say that a person is bleeding from their eyes and nose is to imply they're full of venom.
I think if he meant to imply she was hormonal he would have come straight out and said, "Man, she must be on the rag".
#19. To: TooConservative (#18)
Can you actually cite a single instance of a hostile interviewer being described as "bleeding from the nose"? "Bleeding from the eyes" is pretty uncommon as a phrase. But bleeding from ass or vagina both have quite a few various phrases to describe them. And Trump was talking about a woman that was being hostile to him.
#20. To: TooConservative (#18)
But bleeding from ass or vagina
#21. To: A K A Stone (#16)
Yes there were frontrunners for a week. A week not two months.
#22. To: TooConservative (#21)
Trump's latest crude and indefensible remarks
#23. To: A K A Stone (#20)
So maybe Trump was saying Bush was giving it to her up the ass?
#24. To: A K A Stone (#22)
I am getting a clearer picture of you. A metrosexual beta.
#25. To: A K A Stone (#15)
Screw that asshole too.
#26. To: TooConservative (#24)
I'm scoring hits and you know it. That's why you have to resort to crude insults, hoping to silence me.
#27. To: TooConservative (#21)
"But in the end, Romney overcame them all easily."
#28. To: misterwhite (#25)
Trump's not doing any Fox appearances today. Ha!
#29. To: TooConservative (#23)
I think that the correct surmise of Trump's insult was "she was on the rag toward me". That is what he meant but didn't have the guts to just finish saying in public.
#30. To: misterwhite (#27)
I believe 4 of the first 5 Republican primary states ended up voting for Obama. So what kind of Republican candidate did you think we'd get?
#31. To: A K A Stone, TooConservative (#26)
If I wanted to silence you. I'd just push a button.
#32. To: buckeroo (#29)
So what? Megyn beggd him on into a meaningless discussion;
#33. To: A K A Stone (#26)
If I wanted to silence you. I'd just push a button.
#34. To: TooConservative (#30)
And FL moved its election up illegally
#35. To: misterwhite (#25)
Trump's not doing any Fox appearances today. Ha!
#36. To: TooConservative (#18)
"Can you actually cite a single instance of a hostile interviewer being described as "bleeding from the nose"?
#37. To: TooConservative (#33)
If I wanted to silence you. I'd just push a button.
#38. To: TooConservative (#32)
#39. To: buckeroo (#38)
#40. To: A K A Stone (#34)
No it didn't. States can have their primaries any time they want to. The RNC doesn't dictate what is illegal.
#41. To: A K A Stone (#37)
Have a good day. I'm going to go swim in the Gulf of Mexico.
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