Earlier this evening, CNN’s Don Lemon interviewed Donald Trump about the debate on Fox News Channel last night, and set off another Trump-related tempest. After noting that Kelly pushed Trump during the debate, and that she “pushed a lot of people” besides Trump, Lemon asked, “What is it with you and Megyn Kelly?” Trump’s reply was, er … colorful, to say the least [emphasis mine]:
TRUMP: Well, I just don’t respect her as a journalist, I have no respect for her. I don’t think she’s very good, I think she’s highly overrated. But when I came out there, you know — what am I doing? I’m not getting paid for this. I go out there, and they start saying this stuff [garbled]. But you know, I didn’t know there’d be 24 million people. I knew it was going to be a big crowd because I get crowds, I get ratings. They call me the ratings machine. So I have, you know, she gets out and she starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions, and you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her … wherever. But in my opinion, she was off base.
Kelly did ask Trump tough questions in last night’s debate, but she asked tough questions of Marco Rubio on abortion too, and of other candidates on stage as well. As the front-runner, Trump should have expected tough questions, especially given his track record of supporting nearly every progressive idea at one time or another, including Hillary Clinton being President. Kelly also asked Trump about his remarks about women, which appears to have particularly rankled him — and pushed him into validating Kelly’s premise in asking those questions in the first place. After all, it’s not often when a major party candidate takes a shot at a woman by reminding everyone of her menstrual cycle. I’m certain that will really impress women about their place in the Republican Party.
Trump was scheduled to speak at the Red State Gathering tomorrow, in the final slot at the event. Not long after these remarks, event organizer Erick Erickson announced that he had withdrawn the invitation:
I have rescinded my invitation to Mr.Trump. While I have tried to give him great latitude, his remark about Megyn Kelly was a bridge too far
That will undoubtedly anger some Trump supporters, but after last night’s debate performance and his thin-skinned whining afterward, I wonder if that group wasn’t already in decline. This might fire up the die-hard Trump troops, but suggesting that a journalist went after his target-rich record only because she was menstruating should be a disqualifier for most voters. It’s vastly worse than anything Todd Akin said, and will almost certainly have media outlets demanding responses from the other Republican candidates. It’s practically tailor-made for Democrats to hoist up the Republican War On Women banner, especially Hillary Clinton.
Get ready for plenty of Team Trump dog-in-the-manger, sour-grapes quotes in the morning, if not overnight. There may be some legitimate anger among a small group of RSG15 attendees tomorrow who wanted to see Trump at this event, but Erick has a solid case for not wanting to have this overshadow the event tomorrow, with more presidential candidates on hand to make their pitches. Erick will almost certainly address this in the morning, and we’ll see what the fallout is over the rest of the day.
Update: Carly Fiorina appears to be the first Republican candidate to respond to Trump’s remarks, perhaps fittingly so (via Twitchy):
That’s interesting, because Fiorina actually deflected a Trump question at her presser today at RSG15 by asking why the media wasn’t calling out Obama for his offensive comments about opponents of the Iran deal. Not this time, apparently.
But I also think that while Mr. Trump resonates with a lot of people with his bluntness, including me to a degree, there are just real lines of decency a person running for President should not trust.
His comment was inappropriate. It is unfortunate to have to disinvite him. But I just don’t want someone on stage who gets a hostile question from a lady and his first inclination is to imply it was hormonal. It just was wrong.
I have invited Megyn Kelly to attend in Donald Trump’s place tomorrow night.
Well, that would be interesting. We’ll see if she can swing that.
Carly Fiorina: "I'm the new rising star Lion-ess of GOP Presidential candidates!"
This broad Fiorina is a hologram. A fake. Wolf in sheeps' clothing. A hedge for Jeb. A totally manufactured candidate who is OBVIOUSLY following a script. She's just as manufactured a product as is the fake outrage against Trump. The Megyn Kelly-led "War on Women!" meme, and the un-holy matrimony of FOX News to the effete GOPe is now exposed to the world. How will Republican voters react to this manipulation?
Q: Is there ANYTHING that either FOX News or the GOPe do that isn't contrived, staged bullsh*t?? Their relationship isn't much different than the symbiosis of MSNBC and the Dem Party.
This broad Fiorina is a hologram. A fake. Wolf in sheeps' clothing. A hedge for Jeb. A totally manufactured candidate who is OBVIOUSLY following a script.
Lib, you.re usually on target. but this time you are dead wrong.
Lib, you.re usually on target. but this time you are dead wrong.
On Fiorina?
Gary, her past is subversive. Don't take my word for it, research it and the issues she's supported in the past. That she's already come out and dissed Trump was designed to portray her as the feminine voice of reason. She IS being supported behind the scenes as back up to Jeb.
Her NEW image, her NEW words of NEW wisdom are scripted and manufactured. Don't be fooled into buying the Fiorina Fenomenena. Yes, she sounds good...TOO good. Where's she been all this time?? She's a Trojan Horse.
Her NEW image, her NEW words of NEW wisdom are scripted and manufactured. Don't be fooled into buying the Fiorina Fenomenena. Yes, she sounds good...TOO good. Where's she been all this time??
Where's she been all this time?
Taking additional acting lessons. She's starting out her new acting talents with a new script in a role that offers her the opportunity to portray herself as president.
Taking additional acting lessons. She's starting out her new acting talents with a new script in a role that offers her the opportunity to portray herself as president.
Exactly. Carly Fiorina is ACTING.
GOPe's Hollywood Central called her in for a total "Make-Over." All she had to do they presumed was attend GOPe finishing-school to address her former looks, script, and role.
I don't even doubt that her PTB-GOPe handlers believe they've found their new "star." She apparently passed the audition with flying colors when she lectured the "Neanderthal" Trump while siding with innocent, delicate flower, Megyn Kelly. Ergo Fiorina's feminist bonafides were reinforced and established in this fake "war against women." Best of all -- now (phew!!) the GOP has a woman in their race, proving that it's not the establishment Republicans that hate women -- only the kooky, newbie conservative wing.
Best of all -- now (phew!!) the GOP has a woman in their race, proving that it's not the establishment Republicans that hate women -- only the kooky, newbie conservative wing.
You Trumpsters, following Teh Donald's lead, have made Megyn Kelly the litmus test.
We'll see how that works out for you.
Trump has lost all his media contracts and his Trump ties deal with Macy's and other connections he had developed over the years. He probably feels he has nothing left to lose now.
I haven't found out if Kelly took Trump's spot at RSG (which I doubted) or who they did get to make the big Saturday evening keynote address for them after they disinvited Trump.
Not really. A financial magazine a couple of weeks ago put his actual net assets at between 2 and 3 billion.
Nothing to sneeze at for sure,but Trump is the only one claiming 10 billion,and he does that by tricks like claiming his name alone (Brand/Trademark) is worth $4 billion.
The Donald can't move his lips without lying. He is such a narcissist that he makes Bill Clinton look shy and modest by comparison.
And the magazine's guess would be better than Trump's... why?
Because they not only sift through public records to determine net worth,but they also have no reason to lie about it.
What magazine? And the public records of an organization like Trump's can only be guestimated from the public records. The magazines have to swag it. Trump has the real numbers.
Because they not only sift through public records to determine net worth,but they also have no reason to lie about it.
What magazine?
I have forgotten,but it was mentioned on a thread here on LF.
And the public records of an organization like Trump's can only be guestimated from the public records. The magazines have to swag it. Trump has the real numbers.
Are you SERIOUSLY trying to claim Trump is more trustworthy when talking about his wealth than anyone else you could mention?
Are you SERIOUSLY trying to claim Trump is more trustworthy when talking about his wealth than anyone else you could mention?
Are you SERIOUSLY claiming that some magazine you can't identify has better information about Trump's finances that Trump?
I did not say he was more trustworthy when talking about his wealth, I said he is the sole source for the accurate information. It is not possible to review public records and get a complete picture of his finances.
On Wednesday, Trump filed his financial disclosure forms. His campaign said Trump’s net worth exceeds $10 billion. They used capital letters.
Others disagree. Wealth-X, a consulting firm, puts Trump’s net worth at $4.5 billion.Forbes says the real estate tycoon-turned-reality star-turned-presidential hopeful is worth $4 billion. And the magazine estimates that Trump’s net worth has dropped by at least $125 million since he announced his presidential run a month ago. Author Timothy O’Brien famously estimated Trump’s net worth was as little as $125 million. Trump sued for libel, but the case was thrown out by the judge.
Who’s right? It’s hard to tell based on what Trump has disclosed so far. In his statement on Wednesday, Trump said he had income of $362 million last year. That didn’t included dividends or other capital gains. After taxes, that’s $217 million. If Trump were a stock, for him to be worth $10 billion, he would have a price-to-earnings ratio of 46. Facebook FB -0.03% has a p/e that’s roughly equivalent to that. But the social network’s cash flow is rising by 40% a year. Trump’s, likely, is not.
It appears to be somewhere between $125M and $10B.
Are you SERIOUSLY claiming that some magazine you can't identify has better information about Trump's finances that Trump?
No,I am saying it is impossible for Trump to tell the truth about his money. His ego demands he at least double the amount when talking about it because he thinks it makes him look smarter.
By a conservative estimate, he has a shitload of money.
Yeah but he isn't building a real campaign organization.
Trump appears to be just as stingy about spending his cash as Perot was. Some experts think that if Perot had made an effort with another $50-$100 million, he would have won the presidency.
The 13th amendment talks about involuntary servitude. If you take the words to mean what they say without lawyer spin it forbids it. Right or wrong that is what the text of the 13th amendment says.
I'm just commenting on what I honestly to believe the text of the 13th amendment to say.
AFAIK,that IS what it says,but like everything else in life,you need context.
Don't forget that the people who wrote and passed the Bill of Rights were also the very same people who said every American male over the age of 17 and under the age of 45 (?) is a member of the militia and subject to be called to active duty.
I have no doubt there is ample documentation of the letters they sent to one another explaining why the militia isn't Un-Constituional.
Don't forget that the people who wrote and passed the Bill of Rights were also the very same people who said every American male over the age of 17 and under the age of 45 (?) is a member of the militia and subject to be called to active duty.
I have no doubt there is ample documentation of the letters they sent to one another explaining why the militia isn't Un-Constituional.
I'm a literalist on words in the constitution. I want them literally obeyed. Not some lawyer twisting of words. That is why my position is what it is.
If the 13th amendment is worded incorrectly. It should be repealed and replaced with something better. But as it stands it says what it says.
I'm a literalist on words in the constitution. I want them literally obeyed. Not some lawyer twisting of words. That is why my position is what it is.
CONTEXT!
Freedom isn't free,and those who aren't willing to fight for it will not remain free. If you are not a free people,no words written or spoken anywhere by anyone else have any meaning because YOU will not be able to speak YOUR truth.
If you are not willing to fight to defend your country and your freedoms,you won't maintain either.
I'm GUESSING the Founding Fathers thought that was so obvious it didn't need explaining. I guess in their day it was a lot more obvious than it is today.
