Earlier this evening, CNN’s Don Lemon interviewed Donald Trump about the debate on Fox News Channel last night, and set off another Trump-related tempest. After noting that Kelly pushed Trump during the debate, and that she “pushed a lot of people” besides Trump, Lemon asked, “What is it with you and Megyn Kelly?” Trump’s reply was, er … colorful, to say the least [emphasis mine]:
TRUMP: Well, I just don’t respect her as a journalist, I have no respect for her. I don’t think she’s very good, I think she’s highly overrated. But when I came out there, you know — what am I doing? I’m not getting paid for this. I go out there, and they start saying this stuff [garbled]. But you know, I didn’t know there’d be 24 million people. I knew it was going to be a big crowd because I get crowds, I get ratings. They call me the ratings machine. So I have, you know, she gets out and she starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions, and you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her … wherever. But in my opinion, she was off base.
Kelly did ask Trump tough questions in last night’s debate, but she asked tough questions of Marco Rubio on abortion too, and of other candidates on stage as well. As the front-runner, Trump should have expected tough questions, especially given his track record of supporting nearly every progressive idea at one time or another, including Hillary Clinton being President. Kelly also asked Trump about his remarks about women, which appears to have particularly rankled him — and pushed him into validating Kelly’s premise in asking those questions in the first place. After all, it’s not often when a major party candidate takes a shot at a woman by reminding everyone of her menstrual cycle. I’m certain that will really impress women about their place in the Republican Party.
Trump was scheduled to speak at the Red State Gathering tomorrow, in the final slot at the event. Not long after these remarks, event organizer Erick Erickson announced that he had withdrawn the invitation:
I have rescinded my invitation to Mr.Trump. While I have tried to give him great latitude, his remark about Megyn Kelly was a bridge too far
That will undoubtedly anger some Trump supporters, but after last night’s debate performance and his thin-skinned whining afterward, I wonder if that group wasn’t already in decline. This might fire up the die-hard Trump troops, but suggesting that a journalist went after his target-rich record only because she was menstruating should be a disqualifier for most voters. It’s vastly worse than anything Todd Akin said, and will almost certainly have media outlets demanding responses from the other Republican candidates. It’s practically tailor-made for Democrats to hoist up the Republican War On Women banner, especially Hillary Clinton.
Get ready for plenty of Team Trump dog-in-the-manger, sour-grapes quotes in the morning, if not overnight. There may be some legitimate anger among a small group of RSG15 attendees tomorrow who wanted to see Trump at this event, but Erick has a solid case for not wanting to have this overshadow the event tomorrow, with more presidential candidates on hand to make their pitches. Erick will almost certainly address this in the morning, and we’ll see what the fallout is over the rest of the day.
Update: Carly Fiorina appears to be the first Republican candidate to respond to Trump’s remarks, perhaps fittingly so (via Twitchy):
That’s interesting, because Fiorina actually deflected a Trump question at her presser today at RSG15 by asking why the media wasn’t calling out Obama for his offensive comments about opponents of the Iran deal. Not this time, apparently.
But I also think that while Mr. Trump resonates with a lot of people with his bluntness, including me to a degree, there are just real lines of decency a person running for President should not trust.
His comment was inappropriate. It is unfortunate to have to disinvite him. But I just don’t want someone on stage who gets a hostile question from a lady and his first inclination is to imply it was hormonal. It just was wrong.
I have invited Megyn Kelly to attend in Donald Trump’s place tomorrow night.
Well, that would be interesting. We’ll see if she can swing that.
I guess that lets you off the hook be default,doesn't it?
he 13th amendment talks about involuntary servitude. If you take the words to mean what they say without lawyer spin it forbids it.
Anyone that isn't willing to fight for their country if called up doesn't deserve to have a country.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
You are full of crap on this one. Anyone that purposely exposes themselves to enemy fire over and over qualifies as a hero.
Nope. That is PC. Everyone gets a trophy thinking.
A hero is someone like the charachter Rambo when he was in Viet Nam.
Your ignorance is stunning.
Do you get all your knowledge from your teebee and movies?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Much of the Army and Marines do that. That does not make them all heroes.
Of course it does.
What trump said was that getting captured did not make McCain a hero.
No,that is the spin you Trump Turnips are trying to put on it. He CLEARLY stated that McLunatic wasn't a hero because he was a POW,and that the people he considered to be the heroes were the ones that weren't captured.
Which I guess qualifies Trump and all the other draft-dodgers are heroes because none of them were ever captured,were they?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
You are full of crap on this one. Anyone that purposely exposes themselves to enemy fire over and over qualifies as a hero.
Nope. That is PC. Everyone gets a trophy thinking.
More ignorance. Everybody in the military that did expose themselves to enemy fire over and over DID get a "trophy" in one form or another. It came in the form of an awards and decorations. Some just recognized the risk you exposed yourself to,like Air Medals,CIB's,CMB's,etc,etc,etc,and some were higher level awards that recognized individual acts of courage.
You woldn't know this because you never served,and you don't even really care about it other than to cover up for your own personal "hero",the trust fund draft dodger.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
If I were a draft dodger I would not be retired military. nolu chan, USN, Ret.
Which means you never saw any combat.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Also I'm sure you served honorably. I'd also like to apologize to you a while back when I said you only served because you wanted to kill people. That was wrong. I'm sorry.
He DID serve honorably,even if incompetently,prior to being shot down,but once his wounds were treated and he was out of the hospital,he violated his oath as member of the US military and gave aid and comfort to the enemy. He even gave anti-American interviews to communist newspapers and it is said he also made radio broadcasts encouraging soldiers to refuse to fight. I never heard any of the radio broadcasts and have never talked to anyone who did either,so I am not so sure that was true,but the rest was.
And I do cut him some slack for telling the NVA his daddy was a Admiral so he could get better medical treatment right after he was captured. Anyone in that position that doesn't try to get better medical treatment is a fool. It's not the same thing as exposing military secrets.
He was also a pretty lousy pilot by all reports. None of which takes away from the courage he exhibited by taking off and landing on a carrier deck at sea,and floying off into the face of some pretty intense AAA fire to drop his bombs. I don't give a damn who you are,that takes stones.
You might want to take note of this because it will probably be the only good thing you will ever see me write about McLunatic.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Sadly,we have devolved to the point where we really only have one party,with two branches competing for power but seeking the same goals when in office.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I'm just commenting on what I honestly to believe the text of the 13th amendment to say.
AFAIK,that IS what it says,but like everything else in life,you need context.
Don't forget that the people who wrote and passed the Bill of Rights were also the very same people who said every American male over the age of 17 and under the age of 45 (?) is a member of the militia and subject to be called to active duty.
I have no doubt there is ample documentation of the letters they sent to one another explaining why the militia isn't Un-Constituional.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I don't,other than what your post tell me about what is important to you.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Don't forget that the people who wrote and passed the Bill of Rights were also the very same people who said every American male over the age of 17 and under the age of 45 (?) is a member of the militia and subject to be called to active duty.
I have no doubt there is ample documentation of the letters they sent to one another explaining why the militia isn't Un-Constituional.
I'm a literalist on words in the constitution. I want them literally obeyed. Not some lawyer twisting of words. That is why my position is what it is.
If the 13th amendment is worded incorrectly. It should be repealed and replaced with something better. But as it stands it says what it says.
I'd also like to apologize to you a while back when I said you only served because you wanted to kill people. That was wrong. I'm sorry.
Thank you for the apology,but it isn't really necessary. I recognized it was a "heat of the moment" thing when I read it.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Now you are telling us that people who don't serve honorably are heroes.
In some cases,yes. People aren't machines that are programmed to only think and react one way.
You have to recognize the positive things people do as well as recognize the bad they do.
For example,Benedict Arnold was a hero to the American cause before he became a traitor.
Are there any Nazi heroes?
Oh,hell YEAH! Otto Skorzeny,the guy that led the raid to rescue Mussolini,for example. There were many,many German WW-2 heroes. I even knew and served with a few in the US Army in the 60's. It came as a shock to me to see people standing in the same formation as me during a IG inspection wearing Iron Crosses on their uniforms.
I never knew him personally,but Lauri Törni/Larry Throne was one of these people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauri_T%C3%B6rni
Fought against the Red Army and earned Finlands highest decoration for courage when the Soviets invaded Finland,and when the Nazi's finally won,he escaped to Germany and enlisted in their army as a Private so he could go off and kill more communists,and was awarded several medals for courage by the Nazi's.
He died when the helicopter he was riding in crashed into the jungle while returning from inserting a recon team behind enemy lines in Laos.
Some of the VN people we worked with in VN had fought with the NVA against the French,and then helped us fight against the Vietnamese communists when they invaded the south.
Courage doesn't have a nationality or belong to any one group.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I'm a literalist on words in the constitution. I want them literally obeyed. Not some lawyer twisting of words. That is why my position is what it is.
CONTEXT!
Freedom isn't free,and those who aren't willing to fight for it will not remain free. If you are not a free people,no words written or spoken anywhere by anyone else have any meaning because YOU will not be able to speak YOUR truth.
If you are not willing to fight to defend your country and your freedoms,you won't maintain either.
I'm GUESSING the Founding Fathers thought that was so obvious it didn't need explaining. I guess in their day it was a lot more obvious than it is today.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
If they tried to draft me for Iraq I would have a problem with that.
Truthfully,I have serious problems with ANY American being sent to fight in the Muddle East.
Having said that,soldiers aren't the ones who decides who and where they fight. It is the politicians that make these decisions.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
What trump said was that getting captured did not make McCain a hero.
No,that is the spin you Trump Turnips are trying to put on it. He CLEARLY stated that McLunatic wasn't a hero because he was a POW,and that the people he considered to be the heroes were the ones that weren't captured.
What Trump said, in quotes: What trump said was that getting captured did not make McCain a hero.
“He’s not a war hero. He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”
What Trump said, in quotes: What trump said was that getting captured did not make McCain a hero.
“He’s not a war hero. He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”
Nice spin. He essentially said what I claimed,and the spin was "being captured doesn't make you a hero."
No,what makes you a hero is purposely putting yourself in a position where you can be wounded,killed,or captured because you are going into combat against an armed enemy.
AND.....,as a draft dodger,that bucket of vomit doesn't get to make those judgements.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Not claiming to have seen combat can be added to my not claiming to be a lawyer.
People like you and Trump talking about who are heroes and who aren't remind me of virgins talking about sex. Lots of theories,but you don't really have a clue about the reality you are making judgement calls about.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
[nolu chan #442]Nice spin. He essentially said what I claimed,and the spin was "being captured doesn't make you a hero."
“He’s not a war hero. He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”
[sneakypete #444] No,what makes you a hero is purposely putting yourself in a position where you can be wounded,killed,or captured because you are going into combat against an armed enemy.
It would appear that the Army defines Navy heroes with their own unique definition not shared by the Navy. Below you describe your hero in terms of being an incompetent pilot who violated his oath and, gave aid and comfort to the enemy, and encouraged soldiers to refuse to fight. I observed no uprising of his fellow POWs coming to his defense.
Perhaps according to unique Army standards, Bowe Bergdahl is a hero. It appears the only requirement is "putting yourself in a position where you can be wounded,killed,or captured because you are going into combat against an armed enemy." Bergdahl went to Afghanistan.
[A K A Stone #415] I'll add this. John McCain served honorably.
[sneakypete #428] Actually,he didn't.
He DID serve honorably,even if incompetently,prior to being shot down,but once his wounds were treated and he was out of the hospital,he violated his oath as member of the US military and gave aid and comfort to the enemy. He even gave anti-American interviews to communist newspapers and it is said he also made radio broadcasts encouraging soldiers to refuse to fight. I never heard any of the radio broadcasts and have never talked to anyone who did either,so I am not so sure that was true,but the rest was.
And I do cut him some slack for telling the NVA his daddy was a Admiral so he could get better medical treatment right after he was captured. Anyone in that position that doesn't try to get better medical treatment is a fool. It's not the same thing as exposing military secrets.
He was also a pretty lousy pilot by all reports. None of which takes away from the courage he exhibited by taking off and landing on a carrier deck at sea,and floying off into the face of some pretty intense AAA fire to drop his bombs. I don't give a damn who you are,that takes stones.
You might want to take note of this because it will probably be the only good thing you will ever see me write about McLunatic.
People like you and Trump talking about who are heroes and who aren't remind me of virgins talking about sex. Lots of theories,but you don't really have a clue about the reality you are making judgement calls about.
People like you making judgments for Navy standards of heroes, or flight deck operations, and asserting at once that someone gave aid and comfort to the enemy and is a hero -- I'm underwhelmed. Stick with your Army stories.
It would appear that the Army defines Navy heroes with their own unique definition not shared by the Navy.
It would also appear that you are full of shit.
Below you describe your hero in terms of being an incompetent pilot who violated his oath and, gave aid and comfort to the enemy, and encouraged soldiers to refuse to fight. I observed no uprising of his fellow POWs coming to his defense.
And now you are lying by editing. I CLEARLY stated what made him a hero was the things he did BEFORE he was captured.
Perhaps according to unique Army standards, Bowe Bergdahl is a hero. It appears the only requirement is "putting yourself in a position where you can be wounded,killed,or captured because you are going into combat against an armed enemy." Bergdahl went to Afghanistan.
I guess to somebody that thinks riding around on a boat at sea is dangerous would think that way.
Point 1. Bowe Bergdahl did not volunteer to go into combat,and did everything he could do to avoid going into combat,including deserting.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
People like you making judgments for Navy standards of heroes, or flight deck operations, and asserting at once that someone gave aid and comfort to the enemy and is a hero -- I'm underwhelmed.
That's because you are a professional fool that is pimping Trump.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Am I a hero. I sometimes work on high places. I could fall and hurt myself.
Poor bay-bay!
Where do you want me to send your "Cold War Veteran" baseball cap?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
No,what makes you a hero is purposely putting yourself in a position where you can be wounded,killed,or captured because you are going into combat against an armed enemy.
Shit, I did that 5 days a week for 20 years. V&T stops, Bar fight calls, domestics and assaults in progress. By your definition, a skyscraper window washer is a hero.
A hero is someone that places him/her in danger for their country, community or fellow peers.
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Below you describe your hero in terms of being an incompetent pilot who violated his oath and, gave aid and comfort to the enemy, and encouraged soldiers to refuse to fight. I observed no uprising of his fellow POWs coming to his defense.
And now you are lying by editing. I CLEARLY stated what made him a hero was the things he did BEFORE he was captured.
I guess the truth hurts.
I quoted your #428 in full minus only the tag line. Here is is again, in full, with the tag line.
He DID serve honorably,even if incompetently,prior to being shot down,but once his wounds were treated and he was out of the hospital,he violated his oath as member of the US military and gave aid and comfort to the enemy. He even gave anti-American interviews to communist newspapers and it is said he also made radio broadcasts encouraging soldiers to refuse to fight. I never heard any of the radio broadcasts and have never talked to anyone who did either,so I am not so sure that was true,but the rest was.
And I do cut him some slack for telling the NVA his daddy was a Admiral so he could get better medical treatment right after he was captured. Anyone in that position that doesn't try to get better medical treatment is a fool. It's not the same thing as exposing military secrets.
He was also a pretty lousy pilot by all reports. None of which takes away from the courage he exhibited by taking off and landing on a carrier deck at sea,and floying off into the face of some pretty intense AAA fire to drop his bombs. I don't give a damn who you are,that takes stones.
You might want to take note of this because it will probably be the only good thing you will ever see me write about McLunatic.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
You said, "He DID serve honorably,even if incompetently,prior to being shot down...."
You continued, "but once his wounds were treated and he was out of the hospital,he violated his oath as member of the US military and gave aid and comfort to the enemy."
You continued, "He even gave anti-American interviews to communist newspapers and it is said he also made radio broadcasts encouraging soldiers to refuse to fight."
At my #446, I observed:
It would appear that the Army defines Navy heroes with their own unique definition not shared by the Navy. Below you describe your hero in terms of being an incompetent pilot who violated his oath and, gave aid and comfort to the enemy, and encouraged soldiers to refuse to fight. I observed no uprising of his fellow POWs coming to his defense.
Now you claim: "I CLEARLY stated what made him a hero was the things he did BEFORE he was captured."
What you said was, "He DID serve honorably,even if incompetently,prior to being shot down...." Your words, not mine.
You claimed, "He was also a pretty lousy pilot by all reports. None of which takes away from the courage he exhibited by taking off and landing on a carrier deck at sea,and floying off into the face of some pretty intense AAA fire to drop his bombs. I don't give a damn who you are,that takes stones."
I observed that Bowe Bergdahl put himself in a position of greater danger on the front lines in Afghanistan. Therefore, by Army standards he appears to qualify as a hero and I observed:
Perhaps according to unique Army standards, Bowe Bergdahl is a hero. It appears the only requirement is "putting yourself in a position where you can be wounded,killed,or captured because you are going into combat against an armed enemy." Bergdahl went to Afghanistan.
I will also observe that service members in the states sitting around, who have some nut job with a gun walk up and shoot them are now heroes and get a purple heart. They are unfortunate victims who were in the wrong place at the wrong time. The family of every member of the military who dies in the line of service should be well compensated and taken care of without the need for a make believe heroism award.
I guess to somebody that thinks riding around on a boat at sea is dangerous would think that way.
Working on the flight deck is very dangerous. Think about working on a flight deck when incompetent pilots are trying to land. Think about a jet turning and you getting blown overboard by the jet wash. Think of being on the deck when an aircraft restraining cable snaps. Being on the Pueblo was dangerous. Being on the Liberty, Thresher, Scorpion, Iowa, Cole, Stark or Forrestal was deadly.
The SEALs are Americas elite unit. They and the Corpsmen who accompany them regularly go to hazardous duty.
Just because you do not know, submarines are boats,. The surface navy has ships. Stick with talking about the Army and stop revealing your ignorance of the Navy.
Bowe Bergdahl was not drafted. He enlisted. He volunteered. He was not dragged to Afghanistan in handcuffs. He deserted after he was there. He enlisted in 2008. He deployed to Afghanistan in May 2009. He got himself lost on June 30, 2009. He had excellent evals before he left and was advanced to Sergeant in captivity. He's not my typical hero, but by your definition he counts as one. Deal with it.
People like you making judgments for Navy standards of heroes, or flight deck operations, and asserting at once that someone gave aid and comfort to the enemy and is a hero -- I'm underwhelmed.
That's because you are a professional fool that is pimping Trump.
You must be an amateur fool then. And I am not pimping Trump, but observing that he is in the lead and Bush is in the weeds.
