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Title: Trump out at #RSG15; Update: Fiorina to Trump: “There. Is. No. Excuse.”
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URL Source: http://hotair.com/archives/2015/08/07/breaking-trump-out-at-rsg15/
Published: Aug 7, 2015
Author: Ed Morrissey
Post Date: 2015-08-08 10:22:08 by Tooconservative
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Comments: 479
Earlier this evening, CNN’s Don Lemon interviewed Donald Trump about the debate on Fox News Channel last night, and set off another Trump-related tempest. After noting that Kelly pushed Trump during the debate, and that she “pushed a lot of people” besides Trump, Lemon asked, “What is it with you and Megyn Kelly?” Trump’s reply was, er … colorful, to say the least [emphasis mine]: TRUMP: Well, I just don’t respect her as a journalist, I have no respect for her. I don’t think she’s very good, I think she’s highly overrated. But when I came out there, you know — what am I doing? I’m not getting paid for this. I go out there, and they start saying this stuff [garbled]. But you know, I didn’t know there’d be 24 million people. I knew it was going to be a big crowd because I get crowds, I get ratings. They call me the ratings machine. So I have, you know, she gets out and she starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions, and you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her … wherever. But in my opinion, she was off base. Kelly did ask Trump tough questions in last night’s debate, but she asked tough questions of Marco Rubio on abortion too, and of other candidates on stage as well. As the front-runner, Trump should have expected tough questions, especially given his track record of supporting nearly every progressive idea at one time or another, including Hillary Clinton being President. Kelly also asked Trump about his remarks about women, which appears to have particularly rankled him — and pushed him into validating Kelly’s premise in asking those questions in the first place. After all, it’s not often when a major party candidate takes a shot at a woman by reminding everyone of her menstrual cycle. I’m certain that will really impress women about their place in the Republican Party. Trump was scheduled to speak at the Red State Gathering tomorrow, in the final slot at the event. Not long after these remarks, event organizer Erick Erickson announced that he had withdrawn the invitation: I have rescinded my invitation to Mr.Trump. While I have tried to give him great latitude, his remark about Megyn Kelly was a bridge too far — Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) August 8, 2015 That will undoubtedly anger some Trump supporters, but after last night’s debate performance and his thin-skinned whining afterward, I wonder if that group wasn’t already in decline. This might fire up the die-hard Trump troops, but suggesting that a journalist went after his target-rich record only because she was menstruating should be a disqualifier for most voters. It’s vastly worse than anything Todd Akin said, and will almost certainly have media outlets demanding responses from the other Republican candidates. It’s practically tailor-made for Democrats to hoist up the Republican War On Women banner, especially Hillary Clinton. Get ready for plenty of Team Trump dog-in-the-manger, sour-grapes quotes in the morning, if not overnight. There may be some legitimate anger among a small group of RSG15 attendees tomorrow who wanted to see Trump at this event, but Erick has a solid case for not wanting to have this overshadow the event tomorrow, with more presidential candidates on hand to make their pitches. Erick will almost certainly address this in the morning, and we’ll see what the fallout is over the rest of the day. Update: Carly Fiorina appears to be the first Republican candidate to respond to Trump’s remarks, perhaps fittingly so (via Twitchy): Mr. Trump: There. Is. No. Excuse. — Carly Fiorina (@CarlyFiorina) August 8, 2015 I stand with @megynkelly. — Carly Fiorina (@CarlyFiorina) August 8, 2015 That’s interesting, because Fiorina actually deflected a Trump question at her presser today at RSG15 by asking why the media wasn’t calling out Obama for his offensive comments about opponents of the Iran deal. Not this time, apparently. Update: Erick has an explanation up at RedState: But I also think that while Mr. Trump resonates with a lot of people with his bluntness, including me to a degree, there are just real lines of decency a person running for President should not trust. His comment was inappropriate. It is unfortunate to have to disinvite him. But I just don’t want someone on stage who gets a hostile question from a lady and his first inclination is to imply it was hormonal. It just was wrong. I have invited Megyn Kelly to attend in Donald Trump’s place tomorrow night. Well, that would be interesting. We’ll see if she can swing that.
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#351. To: redleghunter (#350)
Couldn't you argue the same if there were only a few candidates? Different open primary years for presidential elections tend to attract a fair number of candidates. This is one reason why Romney had so few real challengers of any caliber but McStain had quite a few that were more credible. A non-incumbent election tends to bring out every candidate that ever had a hankering to run. The Dims suppressed that this time by collaring all their tycoons and the libmedia and making it clear that Hitlery was the nominee, no matter what. And Trump will ultimately guarantee Bush the GOP nomination.
The Big Picture is that he is a life-long Dim and resident of NYC,and he's in it for himself because he doesn't care about anyone else. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I think the Country Club Republicans that own the RNC and the Dims were hoping for Lady Lindsey to get the nomination. It's the alleged Republicans "turn" to occupy the WH,and Lady Lindsey is someone they can all do business with because he's a in the closet homo,and can be blackmailed. And that is assuming he isn't a Dim in Republican clothing to start with. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
A bad bet and poor strategy if true on their part. No one likes Lady Lindsey. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Politics has become a game played by infantile hyperverbal narcissists who derive a career appealing to a nation of moron narcissists. Serious adulthood is being universally phased out. People with IQs 85 are now convinced they are geniuses and are entitled to according entitlements.
And why didn't the Dims blackmail him when he served as the House's prosecutor in impeaching Bill Clinton after the Starr report was submitted?
They do. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Probably because they didn't have to ,and he would be more useful in the future if they didn't. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Don't make me go into a yukon/Gatlin rant on rabid CTers... : )
Don't make me go into a yukon/Gatlin rant on rabid CTers... : ) It's not a theory if there is an actual plan,and WTH would they push Lady Lindsey to stick up for Bubba Bill when Bubba Bill was in no danger anyhow? Better to hold him in reserve. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Are you SERIOUSLY claiming that some magazine you can't identify has better information about Trump's finances that Trump? I did not say he was more trustworthy when talking about his wealth, I said he is the sole source for the accurate information. It is not possible to review public records and get a complete picture of his finances. Forbes estimated his net worth at $4B. http://fortune.com/2015/07/17/donald-trump-net-worth-calculator/ Others disagree. Wealth-X, a consulting firm, puts Trump’s net worth at $4.5 billion. Forbes says the real estate tycoon-turned-reality star-turned-presidential hopeful is worth $4 billion. And the magazine estimates that Trump’s net worth has dropped by at least $125 million since he announced his presidential run a month ago. Author Timothy O’Brien famously estimated Trump’s net worth was as little as $125 million. Trump sued for libel, but the case was thrown out by the judge. Who’s right? It’s hard to tell based on what Trump has disclosed so far. In his statement on Wednesday, Trump said he had income of $362 million last year. That didn’t included dividends or other capital gains. After taxes, that’s $217 million. If Trump were a stock, for him to be worth $10 billion, he would have a price-to-earnings ratio of 46. Facebook FB -0.03% has a p/e that’s roughly equivalent to that. But the social network’s cash flow is rising by 40% a year. Trump’s, likely, is not. It appears to be somewhere between $125M and $10B.
And don't confuse arrogance with honesty. Ah, when he is the only one in the history of debates to tell the truth about political donations, he is still a liar because his motives were impure. Personally, I never believe someone who has made billions is stupid. Arrogant? Of course he is. Arrogance flashes off Trump like a neon sign. That's part of the Trump brand. If the corporate fat cats are buying favors with donations, the question becomes what are the politicians selling that is worth the donations? Trump was smart enough to stick to wedding attendances. In the midst of his schtick, few seem to have noticed that he did not say what else he got for his donations.
True but you know how he likes to blame them for everything even if they didn't do it... Now the issue is how many people will believe what he said and how many people will just Very brave of you to way out on a limb like that. : )
It seems there was some grand plan to shove a GOPe candidate down our throats by having so many primary candidates. Seems not everything is going to plan and that upsets the apple cart some. Yes it was quite amusing and now I wonder what "dirt" will be dug up in the next few months by the establishment to discredit Trump and grease the skids for the Oscar Mayor Weiner Boy "Jebby Poo"??? I'm not so sure about that... Speaking of narcissists... http://www.lightshouse.org/all-about-narcissists.html#axzz3iRvV7J3Z You can thank the school system for teaching them that they are special when they actually aren't... You realize your knee-jerk reaction is wrong. Of course, I am not the one who claimed their results are scientific, as opposed to the unscientific flash polls. Why a poll using the internet must be any less scientific than a poll using the telephone is not explained. A disadvantage of phone polling is that random calls to cell phone numbers from phone banks are frowned upon. http://www.pewresearch.org/methodology/u-s-survey-research/sampling/ Pew Research Center is engaged in an ongoing program of research on non-probability sampling to determine what its potential may be for the types of research that we conduct. Our largest effort in this arena is a collaboration with SurveyMonkey and Westat. In our collaboration, each of the three organizations involved in this work has conducted a survey drawing on a common core of measures. SurveyMonkey conducted a survey of its non-probability panel, Westat conducted a survey with a probability sample of U.S. households selected using address-based sampling and Pew Research Center conducted a survey with its probability-based American Trends Panel. Additional comparisons are available from Pew Research Center telephone surveys. [...] In 2014, The New York Times and CBS News used online non-probability survey panels from UK-based research firm YouGov as part of their election polling efforts, and NBC News and SurveyMonkey have been conducting occasional joint polls of this variety.
No one likes Lady Lindsey. But you have to remember they think "ALL" the voters are stupid... [deleted by nc]
[sneakypete at #325] A financial magazine a couple of weeks ago put his actual net assets at between 2 and 3 billion. The source of the $2-3B claim is unknown, and I failed to find it. I found Forbes at $4.1B, Wealth-X, a consulting firm that puts Trump’s net worth at $4.5 billion, and author Timothy O’Brien's estimate of $125 million. Adding Pete's figure, and Trump's figure, it is either $125M, $2B, $3B, $4.1B, $4.5B, or $10B. The figures I supplied all had a source. The $2-3B is unsourced. Putting them all together says any estimate is a guess, largely influenced by what information is available and how various assets are valued. Critics would like to value the Trump brand at $0. Trump would like to value it at a few billion. If $10B is generous, $2-3B is an unsourced lowball figure.
As far as running and self-funding a billion dollar campaign (or assuming his huge 98% name recognition is worth half that amount alone as far as running for prez), what are Trump's actual liquid assets? I've read $300-$400 million. That might be barely enough, given that both parties are expected to spend in the $1.5-$2 billion range. As far as the GOP nomination, Bush has $120M now and told his big donors to keep at $1M or less for now. Bush could conceivably raise a half billion just on a primary race against Trump.
Don't know if you've seen this one or not... http://therealdeal.com/issues_articles/the-8-billion-dollar-man/ No,I am saying it is impossible for Trump to tell the truth about his money. His ego demands he at least double the amount when talking about it because he thinks it makes him look smarter. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Most are. I have talked with people that admitted to voting for Boy Jorge because they thought they were voting for his father,which is another mystery. Why would anyone want to vote for Poppy again? I have also gotten into arguments with people who REMEMBER Nixon going to prison for breaking into the Watergate complex,and they also remember him starting the VN war. Nothing you can say or do will convince them otherwise. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Trump has claimed his brand is worth $4 Billion. I think he is trying to increase it's worth by running for President. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I was thinking today about Herman Cain becoming the frontrunner for a month in 2012 and how he stuck to his scheduled book promotion tour even as he was buying some ads on Limbaugh and other syndicated outlets. It became obvious he never thought about campaigning seriously and it was all just his book tour. And I had a thought. What if Trump is staging the biggest and most elaborate book promotion deal ever seen? : ) Anyone heard what the title of Trump's campaign book will be? How about "Trump: I Really Am The Greatest"?
It can only be an estimate. He's not holding stocks and cash. His net worth varies over time and the vast bulk of his fortune is in real estate. He's not going to actually sell it to prove its actual worth on the open market. This is why I think Trump's cash on hand is the more important number as far as his ability to match the tycoons backing the other candidates. Adelson is worth $37B. The Koch brothers, $80B. There are a number of others that Trump can't just outspend on a whim.
That might be barely enough, given that both parties are expected to spend in the $1.5-$2 billion range. You just keep holding out for Trump running out of liquid assets or credit.
By a conservative estimate, he has a shitload of money.
You really think Trump would take on debt to run for prez? I can't see that happening. Well, having done the book title, I'm now wondering about his campaign theme song. How about Sinatra's "I Did It My Way".
Yeah but he isn't building a real campaign organization. Trump appears to be just as stingy about spending his cash as Perot was. Some experts think that if Perot had made an effort with another $50-$100 million, he would have won the presidency.
Forbes says Trump claims his brand is worth $3.3B, and they value it at $128M. By all estimateds, Trump has a shitload of money.
You really think he will run out of money?
With no real campaign organization he is leading. What does that say about real campaign organizations?
Some experts, so called, thought Trump's campaign would crater after he said becoming a POW was not heroic.
I doubt he can (or will be willing to) try to outspend the Adelsons, the Kochs, the Marriotts and all the other tycoons that will be funding the GOP race. The more Trump poses a threat, the more quickly they unite, most likely behind Bush.
I think Perots problem was he dropped out of the race for a bit. If he hadn't done that he may not have won but he would have had even more votes.
Very true. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest It seems there was some grand plan to shove a GOPe candidate down our throats by having so many primary candidates. Seems not everything is going to plan and that upsets the apple cart some.
#352. To: Liberator (#345)
Set aside you hatred of Trump for a moment and look at THE BIG PICTURE.
#353. To: redleghunter (#350)
It seems there was some grand plan to shove a GOPe candidate down our throats
#354. To: sneakypete (#353)
I think the Country Club Republicans that own the RNC and the Dims were hoping for Lady Lindsey to get the nomination. It's the alleged Republicans "turn" to occupy the WH,and Lady Lindsey is someone they can all do business with because he's a in the closet homo,and can be blackmailed.
#355. To: redleghunter (#350)
It is quite comical to watch professional narcissists go at it. Especially when they don't realize they are narcissists:)
#356. To: sneakypete (#353)
I think the Country Club Republicans that own the RNC and the Dims were hoping for Lady Lindsey to get the nomination. It's the alleged Republicans "turn" to occupy the WH,and Lady Lindsey is someone they can all do business with because he's a in the closet homo,and can be blackmailed.
#357. To: redleghunter (#354)
No one likes Lady Lindsey.
#358. To: TooConservative (#356)
And why didn't the Dims blackmail him when he served as the House's prosecutor in impeaching Bill Clinton after the Starr report was submitted?
#359. To: sneakypete (#358)
Probably because they didn't have to ,and he would be more useful in the future if they didn't.
#360. To: TooConservative (#359)
Probably because they didn't have to ,and he would be more useful in the future if they didn't.
#361. To: sneakypete (#338)
Are you SERIOUSLY trying to claim Trump is more trustworthy when talking about his wealth than anyone else you could mention?
On Wednesday, Trump filed his financial disclosure forms. His campaign said Trump’s net worth exceeds $10 billion. They used capital letters.
#362. To: sneakypete (#336)
How many of them are stupid enough to admit they are one of the crooks gaming the system?
#363. To: Liberator (#341)
But I WILL say that the GOPe ARE responsible for growing a gubmint leviathan.
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#364. To: Liberator (#345)
Trump JUST exposed AND CONFIRMED the entire GOP-Dem system as rigged 100%, revealed politicians are ONLY whores-for-hire, WHILE exposing the collusion of the Media, the Dems, AND Establishment GOP...
??? “Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#365. To: nolu chan (#361)
It appears to be somewhere between $125M and $10B.
#366. To: redleghunter (#350)
It is quite comical to watch professional narcissists go at it. Especially when they don't realize they are narcissists:)
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#367. To: redleghunter (#350)
I have to agree that some 'light' was shed on the whole corrupt collusion (party elites and media). I don't think Trump meant for that to happen.
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#368. To: redleghunter (#350)
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#369. To: rlk (#355)
People with IQs 85 are now convinced they are geniuses and are entitled to according entitlements.
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#370. To: TooConservative, Liberator (#347)
You realize this is largely self-selected online polling? Not real polling
Pew Research Center study of non-probability sampling
#371. To: redleghunter (#354)
A bad bet and poor strategy if true on their part.
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#372. To: TooConservative (#365)
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#373. To: TooConservative, sneakypete (#365)
It appears to be somewhere between $125M and $10B.
Very brave of you to way out on a limb like that. : )
#374. To: nolu chan (#373)
Adding Pete's figure, and Trump's figure, it is either $125M, $2B, $3B, $4.1B, $4.5B, or $10B.
#375. To: nolu chan, Too Conservative, sneakypete (#373)
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#376. To: nolu chan (#361)
Are you SERIOUSLY claiming that some magazine you can't identify has better information about Trump's finances that Trump?
#377. To: CZ82 (#371)
But you have to remember they think "ALL" the voters are stupid...
#378. To: nolu chan (#373)
Critics would like to value the Trump brand at $0. Trump would like to value it at a few billion.
#379. To: sneakypete, nolu chan, redleghunter, A K A Stone (#378)
I think he is trying to increase it's worth by running for President.
#380. To: sneakypete (#378)
Trump has claimed his brand is worth $4 Billion.
#381. To: TooConservative (#374)
As far as running and self-funding a billion dollar campaign (or assuming his huge 98% name recognition is worth half that amount alone as far as running for prez), what are Trump's actual liquid assets? I've read $300-$400 million.
#382. To: sneakypete (#376)
No,I am saying it is impossible for Trump to tell the truth about his money.
#383. To: nolu chan (#381)
You just keep holding out for Trump running out of liquid assets or credit.
#384. To: nolu chan (#382)
By a conservative estimate, he has a shitload of money.
#385. To: sneakypete (#378)
Trump has claimed his brand is worth $4 Billion.
Below we break down what Trump says he is worth v. what we at Forbes estimate he is truly worth. The major difference: his brand. Trump claims that his brand and brand-related deals are worth some $3.3 billion. We value his brand at just $125 million; we give him another $128 million in management fees for Trump-branded hotels. Another major discrepancy is golf courses: Trump has been advocating for a valuation for his chain of American golf courses as high as $800 million. Independent valuation experts tell us our figure of $200 million is much closer to the mark. The other difference is properties under development. Trump claims nearly $300 million here; we don’t give properties full build-out value until they’re actually fully built and running.
#386. To: TooConservative (#383)
You really think Trump would take on debt to run for prez?
#387. To: TooConservative (#384)
Yeah but he isn't building a real campaign organization.
#388. To: TooConservative (#384)
Some experts think that if Perot had made an effort with another $50-$100 million, he would have won the presidency.
#389. To: nolu chan (#386)
You really think he will run out of money?
#390. To: nolu chan, tooconservative (#388)
Some experts think that if Perot had made an effort with another $50-$100 million, he would have won the presidency.
#391. To: nolu chan (#382)
By a conservative estimate, he has a shitload of money.
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