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Title: Trump out at #RSG15; Update: Fiorina to Trump: “There. Is. No. Excuse.”
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URL Source: http://hotair.com/archives/2015/08/07/breaking-trump-out-at-rsg15/
Published: Aug 7, 2015
Author: Ed Morrissey
Post Date: 2015-08-08 10:22:08 by Tooconservative
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Earlier this evening, CNN’s Don Lemon interviewed Donald Trump about the debate on Fox News Channel last night, and set off another Trump-related tempest. After noting that Kelly pushed Trump during the debate, and that she “pushed a lot of people” besides Trump, Lemon asked, “What is it with you and Megyn Kelly?” Trump’s reply was, er … colorful, to say the least [emphasis mine]: TRUMP: Well, I just don’t respect her as a journalist, I have no respect for her. I don’t think she’s very good, I think she’s highly overrated. But when I came out there, you know — what am I doing? I’m not getting paid for this. I go out there, and they start saying this stuff [garbled]. But you know, I didn’t know there’d be 24 million people. I knew it was going to be a big crowd because I get crowds, I get ratings. They call me the ratings machine. So I have, you know, she gets out and she starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions, and you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her … wherever. But in my opinion, she was off base. Kelly did ask Trump tough questions in last night’s debate, but she asked tough questions of Marco Rubio on abortion too, and of other candidates on stage as well. As the front-runner, Trump should have expected tough questions, especially given his track record of supporting nearly every progressive idea at one time or another, including Hillary Clinton being President. Kelly also asked Trump about his remarks about women, which appears to have particularly rankled him — and pushed him into validating Kelly’s premise in asking those questions in the first place. After all, it’s not often when a major party candidate takes a shot at a woman by reminding everyone of her menstrual cycle. I’m certain that will really impress women about their place in the Republican Party. Trump was scheduled to speak at the Red State Gathering tomorrow, in the final slot at the event. Not long after these remarks, event organizer Erick Erickson announced that he had withdrawn the invitation: I have rescinded my invitation to Mr.Trump. While I have tried to give him great latitude, his remark about Megyn Kelly was a bridge too far — Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) August 8, 2015 That will undoubtedly anger some Trump supporters, but after last night’s debate performance and his thin-skinned whining afterward, I wonder if that group wasn’t already in decline. This might fire up the die-hard Trump troops, but suggesting that a journalist went after his target-rich record only because she was menstruating should be a disqualifier for most voters. It’s vastly worse than anything Todd Akin said, and will almost certainly have media outlets demanding responses from the other Republican candidates. It’s practically tailor-made for Democrats to hoist up the Republican War On Women banner, especially Hillary Clinton. Get ready for plenty of Team Trump dog-in-the-manger, sour-grapes quotes in the morning, if not overnight. There may be some legitimate anger among a small group of RSG15 attendees tomorrow who wanted to see Trump at this event, but Erick has a solid case for not wanting to have this overshadow the event tomorrow, with more presidential candidates on hand to make their pitches. Erick will almost certainly address this in the morning, and we’ll see what the fallout is over the rest of the day. Update: Carly Fiorina appears to be the first Republican candidate to respond to Trump’s remarks, perhaps fittingly so (via Twitchy): Mr. Trump: There. Is. No. Excuse. — Carly Fiorina (@CarlyFiorina) August 8, 2015 I stand with @megynkelly. — Carly Fiorina (@CarlyFiorina) August 8, 2015 That’s interesting, because Fiorina actually deflected a Trump question at her presser today at RSG15 by asking why the media wasn’t calling out Obama for his offensive comments about opponents of the Iran deal. Not this time, apparently. Update: Erick has an explanation up at RedState: But I also think that while Mr. Trump resonates with a lot of people with his bluntness, including me to a degree, there are just real lines of decency a person running for President should not trust. His comment was inappropriate. It is unfortunate to have to disinvite him. But I just don’t want someone on stage who gets a hostile question from a lady and his first inclination is to imply it was hormonal. It just was wrong. I have invited Megyn Kelly to attend in Donald Trump’s place tomorrow night. Well, that would be interesting. We’ll see if she can swing that.
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#324. To: nativist nationalist (#271)
ICYMI, Prescott's father Samuel Bush, Jeb's grandpappy, served on the board of a Federal Reserve Bank and had close ties to the Rockefellers and Harrimans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_P._Bush Samuel P. Bush, father of Senator Prescott Bush, grandfather of President G.H.W Bush, great grandpappy of President George W. Bush and Governor John Ellis (Jeb) Bush. Bush was the first president of the Ohio Manufacturers Association, and cofounder of Scioto Country Club and Columbus Academy. He was an avid sports enthusiast and a skilled carpenter. Political prominence In the spring of 1918, banker Bernard Baruch was asked to reorganize the War Industries Board as the U.S. prepared to enter World War I, and placed several prominent businessmen to key posts. Bush became chief of the Ordnance, Small Arms, and Ammunition Section, with national responsibility for government assistance to and relations with munitions companies. Bush served on the board of the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland (as well as of the Huntington National Bank of Columbus). In 1931, he was appointed to Herbert Hoover's President's Committee for Unemployment Relief, chaired by Walter S. Gifford, then-President of AT&T. He was once recommended to serve on the board of the Reconstruction Finance Corporation, but Hoover did not feel he was sufficiently known nationally.
And the magazine's guess would be better than Trump's... why? Because they not only sift through public records to determine net worth,but they also have no reason to lie about it. You know Trump is lying if his lips are moving. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
You just say stupid shit that isn't true all the time. Because you think you are clever. Trumps words moved and he said he wouldn't run third party if he won the nomination. You called that a lie. Which shows you are quite the fool We know you're lying when your fingers are typing. Example. You said you were going to vote for Bernie Sanders. Then you lied and said you didn't say that.
Well,it does show somebody is a fool. We know you're lying when your fingers are typing. Example. You said you were going to vote for Bernie Sanders. Once again you are lying,but even Bernie Sanders would be a better president than that gasbag Trump. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
The former Commodore Hotel, now the four-star Grand Hyatt is hardly rental housing. It is on East 42nd St. between Lex and Park Place, next to Grand Central Station, and within walking distance of Times Square and the Empire State Building. This was the renovation subject to the 40 year abatement on property taxes. The below article includes before and after images. Changing that from the 1919 Commodore to the 4-star 1980 Grand Hyatt made a small fortune for NYC. Only the property taxes were abated. They couldn't make much from the previous bankrupt owner. This is not unusual for major corporate investments now. http://www.timeshutter.com/image/commodore-hotel-new-york The original Commodore opened on January 28, 1919. It was designed by Warren & Wetmore, and was part of a project known as Terminal City that was conceived to bring hotel and office buildings to the area around Grand Central Station. All were owned by the New York State Realty and Terminal Company, a division of the New York Central Railroad—a company in which Cornelius Vanderbilt (a.k.a. the Commodore) had a controlling interest. The Bowman-Biltmore Hotels Corporation leased the property, designed the hotel’s interior, and ran it. Bowman-Biltmore's own Herbert R. Stone oversaw the decor of all 2,000 rooms, including the lobby, which was also the single largest room of the day. It had modern low ceilings and an indoor waterfall. By 1929, Bowman-Biltmore was also running the adjacent Biltmore Hotel and the nearby Roosevelt Hotel, which gave them access to all the northeast corridor railroad passenger traffic in and out of New York City. With such a pedigree, it’s only fitting that the hotel ended up in the hands of Donald Trump. He bought it in 1977, when its railroad company owner was bankrupt. Trump decided to completely rebuild the hotel. The first few floors were gutted down to their steel frame. The architects left the exterior bricks of the Commodore in place, covering them with the reflective glass skin. The hotel re-opened in 1980 as the Grand Hyatt New York.
I wouldn't jump that far ahead. I do not know who his opponent would be, and he may not be nearly as strong in the general as in the primary season. But if the GOPe screws him over as the only way to clear a path for their chosen son, they may well wind up with The Donald on another ticket. Like with Perot, his supporters would like a chance to vote for their guy, and against the GOPe. Matt Taibbi explained it well. Party insiders ganged up on Trump in the first GOP debate, but the tactic may backfire By Matt Taibbi Last night's debate was the funniest political program in our nation's history. Nothing really comes close. There have been moments, obviously. Bush ducking a shoe. Admiral Stockdale saying "Who am I? Why am I here?" Sarah Palin being interviewed while a man in the background beheaded turkeys was a classic. But for comic staying power and sheer WTF factor last night's debate went beyond 11. By my count there were over a dozen genuine laugh-out-loud moments. Mike Huckabee bringing pimps into a presidential debate for the first time ever was a landmark moment. Jeb Bush's attempt at a one-liner, "They call me Veto Corrleone," made millions of adults cringe at the same time. Then there was Megyn Kelly's brain-busting toss to commercial near the end: KELLY: We have to stand you by, because after the break, we're going to let the candidates make their closing statements, their final thoughts, and… God. [...] There was clearly an effort last night by Republican party interests to knock Trump off his frontrunner pedestal. We saw ambush tactics from the start. Bret Baier started the whole thing off by asking the candidates to promise they wouldn't run on a third-party ticket. Trump declined, highlighting his non-Republican-ness. Megyn Kelly followed up by asking Trump to defend his record of calling women "fat pigs" and "disgusting animals" and then made his probable inability to score female votes in a race against Hillary part of her question. Later questions targeted Trump's heretical views on abortion and health care, and his history of donating money to the likes of Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi. No other candidate got anything near this kind of treatment in the debate. A more typical question was Baier softballing Mike Huckabee, asking: "Is the government simply too big for any one person, even a Republican, to shrink?" [...] Trump is now also seeing a wave of punditry pieces flowing in from traditional conservative outlets slamming his campaign. The National Review's Jonah Goldberg wrote a long piece this month, "Trump fans, it's time for an intervention." [...] Meanwhile, Rich Lowry at the Review called the debate a "fabulously awful" night for Trump. He slobbered over the rest of the field. He said Bush "made no mistakes, " Christie was "forceful," Carson was "winsome," Kasich "more of a presence than I would have thought," and Huckabee was "incapable of having a bad debate." Meanwhile, Fox contributor Charles Krauthammer gleefully declared the debate to be the "end of Trump," saying that he looked "lost." [...] Trump's followers are a gang of pissed-off nativists who are tired of being laughed at, belittled, dismissed, and told who to vote for. So it seems incredible that the Republican establishment thinks it's going to get rid of Trump by laughing at, belittling and dismissing him, and telling his voters who they should be picking. These hysterical critics are making one of the world's most irredeemable bullies look persecuted and like a victim, a difficult feat. The desperation to get rid of him may just feed more and more into the right wing base's crazy victim complex, and in turn get Trump even more support. The numbers aren't out yet, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if the debate last night didn't have exactly the opposite impact that Krauthammer and Frank Luntz and the rest of those clowns thinks it had. [...]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SurveyMonkey Doing polls for NBC and raking in $113M annual revenue is pretty good for not a top outfit.
It seemed just the other way around. I can almost hear them talking into Bret Baier's ear telling him to cut from this subject. by Mike Whitney Last night’s FOX News GOP Presidential Debate Extravaganza featured the most riveting two minute political exchange ever heard on national television. During a brief colloquy between Republican frontrunner Donald Trump and Fox moderator Brett Baier, the pugnacious casino magnate revealed the appalling truth about the American political system, that the big money guys like Trump own the whole crooked contraption lock, stock, and barrel, and that, the nation’s fake political leaders do whatever they’re told to do. Without question, it was most illuminating commentary to ever cross the airwaves. Here’s the entire exchange direct from the transcript: TRUMP: As far as single payer, it works in Canada. It works incredibly well in Scotland. It could have worked in a different age, which is the age you’re talking about here. What I’d like to see is a private system without the artificial lines around every state. I have a big company with thousands and thousands of employees. And if I’m negotiating in New York or in New Jersey or in California, I have like one bidder. Nobody can bid. You know why? Because the insurance companies are making a fortune because they have control of the politicians, of course, with the exception of the politicians on this stage. (uneasy laughter) But they have total control of the politicians. They’re making a fortune. Get rid of the artificial lines and you will have…yourself great plans… BAIER: Mr. Trump, it’s not just your past support for single-payer health care. You’ve also supported a host of other liberal policies….You’ve also donated to several Democratic candidates, Hillary Clinton included, and Nancy Pelosi. You explained away those donations saying you did that to get business-related favors. And you said recently, quote, “When you give, they do whatever the hell you want them to do.” TRUMP: You’d better believe it. BAIER: — they do? TRUMP: If I ask them, if I need them, you know, most of the people on this stage I’ve given to, just so you understand, a lot of money. TRUMP: I will tell you that our system is broken. I gave to many people, before this, before two months ago, I was a businessman. I give to everybody. When they call, I give. And do you know what? When I need something from them two years later, three years later, I call them, they are there for me. And that’s a broken system. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What did you get from Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi? TRUMP: Well, I’ll tell you what, with Hillary Clinton, I said be at my wedding and she came to my wedding. You know why? She didn’t have a choice because I gave. I gave to a foundation that, frankly, that foundation is supposed to do good. I didn’t know her money would be used on private jets going all over the world. It was. BAIER: Hold on…..We’re going to — we’re going to move on.” (Transcript: Read the Full Text of the Primetime Republican Debate, Time) There it is, two glorious minutes of pure, unalloyed truth on national television. How often does that happen? How often does a fatcat billionaire-insider appear on TV and announce that the whole system is a big-fat scam run by crooks and patsies? Never, that’s when. But that’s what Trump did last night. And that’s why the clatter of ruthless miscreants who run the system behind the smokescreen of fake politicians are sharpening their knives right now before Manhattan’s rogue elephant does even more damage to their precious system. Just think about what the man said. He not only explained that the whole system is rigged (Baier: “And when you give, they do whatever the hell you want them to do.”…TRUMP: “You’d better believe it.”), he also said that the politicians will do whatever they’re told to do. (TRUMP: Well, …with Hillary Clinton, I said be at my wedding and she came to my wedding. You know why? She didn’t have a choice because I gave.”) Doesn’t that confirm your darkest suspicions about the way the system really works, that money talks and that elections are just a way to get the sheeple to rubber-stamp a corrupt, fraudulent system? Of course, it does. So, let’s summarize: Moneybags capitalist loudmouth explains to 80 million dumbfounded Americans watching prime time TV, that the system is a total fraud, that the big money runs everything, and that even he thinks the system is broken. How do you beat that? Seriously, my wife and I were laughing and high-fiving and like we just won the lottery. Thanks for that, Don. We owe you one.
Because they not only sift through public records to determine net worth,but they also have no reason to lie about it. What magazine? And the public records of an organization like Trump's can only be guestimated from the public records. The magazines have to swag it. Trump has the real numbers.
The last time the base was this fed up was in 1992 when Ross Perot ran third party and collected nearly 20 million votes. I see no sign the GOP is especially interested. They are more interested in recruiting and funding challengers to Tea Party members of Congress who won't toe the line dictated by the open borders Chamber of Commerce.
It's upscale rental housing,but still rental housing. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Trump: "I can totally make that pledge, if I am the nominee, I will not run as an independent." He promised nothing. Obviously, if he is the GOP nominee then he really is unlikely to just dump the GOP and then run third party. You'd think the crowd would have started laughing at his "pledge".
I'll give you a half-point on that one because what Trump was really doing was bragging about his wealth and power more than he was complaining about a broken system. How often does a fatcat billionaire-insider appear on TV and announce that the whole system is a big-fat scam run by crooks and patsies? How many of them are stupid enough to admit they are one of the crooks gaming the system? And don't confuse arrogance with honesty. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
They do online surveys, not actual polling. I'm a little surprised you don't seem to recognize the difference. SurveyMonkey provides data collection, data analysis, brand management, and consumer marketing for Facebook, Virgin America, Salesforce.com, Samsung, and Kraft Foods, among others.[9] As of 2015, SurveyMonkey has 25 million users completing 90 million surveys a month. The company was named to the Forbes Unicorn List in 2015. [10]
What magazine? I have forgotten,but it was mentioned on a thread here on LF. And the public records of an organization like Trump's can only be guestimated from the public records. The magazines have to swag it. Trump has the real numbers. Are you SERIOUSLY trying to claim Trump is more trustworthy when talking about his wealth than anyone else you could mention? Do you work for Trump? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
For some reason he thinks the changes are immediate... It takes time for these things to all shake out which gives him the ammunition for his argument. Since the tax hike didn't hurt the economy immediately there must be another reason the economy went to schitt, and it will be a Republicans fault somehow... Never, that’s when. But that’s what Trump did last night. And that’s why the clatter of ruthless miscreants who run the system behind the smokescreen of fake politicians are sharpening their knives right now before Manhattan’s rogue elephant does even more damage to their precious system. Just think about what the man said. He not only explained that the whole system is rigged...he also said that the politicians will do whatever they’re told to do. HA! And that is exactly why what Trump has a accomplished is a noble thing of beauty, and it makes him a hero of We The People -- YES, HERO! The entire impenetrable system, wall of silence, the rigging of elections and policy decisions, the insider snickering at the ignorance of We The Peasants -- EXPOSED! It took a fed-up Insider and fellow narcissist, rampaging like a bull in a china shop to do it: Donald Trump. So either one can applaud Trump's unprecedented gesture and cheer on his further dismantling and exposure of the elites' FIX, OR support business as usual.
Commies are NEVER at fault for destroying capitalism. *snicker* But I WILL say that the GOPe ARE responsible for growing a gubmint leviathan. THAT itself helped dilute the Private Sector during the last 20 years -- while creating millions high-paying, unnecessary drone-jobs for mostly fellow socialists.
I see no sign the GOP is especially interested. Don't you mean, "GOPe"??
It's upscale rental housing,but still rental housing. LOL! Pete, you're a piece of work. The freakin' FOUR-STAR GRAND HYATT = "Rental Housing"? Bwaahaa!!
I do not know who his opponent would be, and he may not be nearly as strong in the general as in the primary season. But if the GOPe screws him over as the only way to clear a path for their chosen son, they may well wind up with The Donald on another ticket. Like with Perot, his supporters would like a chance to vote for their guy, and against the GOPe. I concur with your assessment and projected scenario completely. The GOPe is screwed either way, but as long as Trump helped expose and destroy the secret GOP-Dem Uniparty orgy and severely weaken the Establishment Republican reputation, I'm pleased. I'd rather gamble Trump somehow leads a Third Party rather than the status quo Uniparty charade. As to "President Trump," I'm tweaking the nipples of the anti-Trumpettes. ;-)
Who freakin' cares about "trustworthiness" of wealth figures in the context of the overall revelations? Trump JUST exposed AND CONFIRMED the entire GOP-Dem system as rigged 100%, revealed politicians are ONLY whores-for-hire, WHILE exposing the collusion of the Media, the Dems, AND Establishment GOP... But here YOU and others are, whining about the sprig of parsley on your plate of aged, prime filet mignon. Trump is no saint. But he blew the whistle on the system. Yes, a billionaire -- but who other than someone totally entrenched within the elite would be believed? Set aside you hatred of Trump for a moment and look at THE BIG PICTURE. Because of Donald Trump's dangerous, personally risky honesty, you've, we've all just witnessed the biggest scandal in political history. The elites' door was kicked in.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SurveyMonkey Doing polls for NBC and raking in $113M annual revenue is pretty good for not a top outfit. No, not a dignified moniker at all, but 'Survey Monkey' is apparently WELL respected AND yes -- a "top outfit" as far as polling goes. Some monikers sound dignified and true. Like "Planned Parenthood," which indeed does plan un-Parenthood via state-sanctioned "in utero" executions.
You realize this is largely self-selected online polling? Not real polling. But it is a lot cheaper for NBC and they can peddle this crap just as easily as they already peddle their more expensive conventional biased phone polls. This is a corporate cloud-based version of PollDaddy.
For some reason he thinks the changes are immediate... It takes time for these things to all shake out which gives him the ammunition for his argument. Since the tax hike didn't hurt the economy immediately there must be another reason the economy went to schitt, and it will be a Republicans fault somehow... Thus, my comments these macro economic issues are a lot more complex than pundits frame them. Reagan cut taxes, but he and Congress also held increases in government spending well below the growth of GDP. Success Bush II cut taxes but went on a war and social programs spending spree. Failure. He spent more than the growth. Again even that is scratching the surface as wars, natural disasters, and industry flux and crashes contribute to or decline from a recovery. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
But I WILL say that the GOPe ARE responsible for growing a gubmint leviathan. THAT itself helped dilute the Private Sector during the last 20 years -- while creating millions high-paying, unnecessary drone-jobs for mostly fellow socialists. Agree. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
I have to agree that some 'light' was shed on the whole corrupt collusion (party elites and media). I don't think Trump meant for that to happen. It just happened by the elite confronting him trying to bruise his ego and Trump reacting as he always does...defending his ego. It is quite comical to watch professional narcissists go at it. Especially when they don't realize they are narcissists:) It seems there was some grand plan to shove a GOPe candidate down our throats by having so many primary candidates. Seems not everything is going to plan and that upsets the apple cart some. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Couldn't you argue the same if there were only a few candidates? Different open primary years for presidential elections tend to attract a fair number of candidates. This is one reason why Romney had so few real challengers of any caliber but McStain had quite a few that were more credible. A non-incumbent election tends to bring out every candidate that ever had a hankering to run. The Dims suppressed that this time by collaring all their tycoons and the libmedia and making it clear that Hitlery was the nominee, no matter what. And Trump will ultimately guarantee Bush the GOP nomination.
The Big Picture is that he is a life-long Dim and resident of NYC,and he's in it for himself because he doesn't care about anyone else. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I think the Country Club Republicans that own the RNC and the Dims were hoping for Lady Lindsey to get the nomination. It's the alleged Republicans "turn" to occupy the WH,and Lady Lindsey is someone they can all do business with because he's a in the closet homo,and can be blackmailed. And that is assuming he isn't a Dim in Republican clothing to start with. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
A bad bet and poor strategy if true on their part. No one likes Lady Lindsey. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Politics has become a game played by infantile hyperverbal narcissists who derive a career appealing to a nation of moron narcissists. Serious adulthood is being universally phased out. People with IQs 85 are now convinced they are geniuses and are entitled to according entitlements.
And why didn't the Dims blackmail him when he served as the House's prosecutor in impeaching Bill Clinton after the Starr report was submitted?
They do. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Probably because they didn't have to ,and he would be more useful in the future if they didn't. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Don't make me go into a yukon/Gatlin rant on rabid CTers... : )
Don't make me go into a yukon/Gatlin rant on rabid CTers... : ) It's not a theory if there is an actual plan,and WTH would they push Lady Lindsey to stick up for Bubba Bill when Bubba Bill was in no danger anyhow? Better to hold him in reserve. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Are you SERIOUSLY claiming that some magazine you can't identify has better information about Trump's finances that Trump? I did not say he was more trustworthy when talking about his wealth, I said he is the sole source for the accurate information. It is not possible to review public records and get a complete picture of his finances. Forbes estimated his net worth at $4B. http://fortune.com/2015/07/17/donald-trump-net-worth-calculator/ Others disagree. Wealth-X, a consulting firm, puts Trump’s net worth at $4.5 billion. Forbes says the real estate tycoon-turned-reality star-turned-presidential hopeful is worth $4 billion. And the magazine estimates that Trump’s net worth has dropped by at least $125 million since he announced his presidential run a month ago. Author Timothy O’Brien famously estimated Trump’s net worth was as little as $125 million. Trump sued for libel, but the case was thrown out by the judge. Who’s right? It’s hard to tell based on what Trump has disclosed so far. In his statement on Wednesday, Trump said he had income of $362 million last year. That didn’t included dividends or other capital gains. After taxes, that’s $217 million. If Trump were a stock, for him to be worth $10 billion, he would have a price-to-earnings ratio of 46. Facebook FB -0.03% has a p/e that’s roughly equivalent to that. But the social network’s cash flow is rising by 40% a year. Trump’s, likely, is not. It appears to be somewhere between $125M and $10B.
And don't confuse arrogance with honesty. Ah, when he is the only one in the history of debates to tell the truth about political donations, he is still a liar because his motives were impure. Personally, I never believe someone who has made billions is stupid. Arrogant? Of course he is. Arrogance flashes off Trump like a neon sign. That's part of the Trump brand. If the corporate fat cats are buying favors with donations, the question becomes what are the politicians selling that is worth the donations? Trump was smart enough to stick to wedding attendances. In the midst of his schtick, few seem to have noticed that he did not say what else he got for his donations.
True but you know how he likes to blame them for everything even if they didn't do it... Now the issue is how many people will believe what he said and how many people will just
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestJEB's bankster grandfather helped to finance the Nazi party.
In 1901, Bush returned to Columbus to be General Manager of Buckeye Steel Castings Company, which manufactured railway parts. The company was run by Frank Rockefeller, the brother of oil magnate John D. Rockefeller, and among its clients were the railroads controlled by E. H. Harriman. The Bush and Harriman families would be closely associated at least until the end of World War II. In 1908, Rockefeller retired and Bush became president of Buckeye, a position he would hold until 1927, becoming one of the top industrialists of his generation.
#325. To: nolu chan (#321)
A financial magazine a couple of weeks ago put his actual net assets at between 2 and 3 billion.
#326. To: sneakypete (#325)
You know Trump is lying if his lips are moving.
#327. To: A K A Stone (#326)
Trumps words moved and he said he wouldn't run third party if he won the nomination. You called that a lie. Which shows you are quite the fool
#328. To: sneakypete, Liberator (#289)
Or maybe you think NYC gives 40 YEAR tax exemptions to everyone building rental housing?
The Commodore Hotel, right next door to Grand Central Station, is still there, although you’d never recognize it today. The black glass Grand Hyatt New York is actually the Commodore, rebuilt by Donald Trump.
#329. To: Liberator (#290)
The Top Three represent giving the Finger to business/politics as usual, and complete rejection of the usual fake choices. The jig is up. Trump will be declared "dead and buried" two years into his Presidency.
Republican Assault on Trump May Only Make Him Stronger
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August 7, 2015
#330. To: TooConservative, Liberator (#250)
Yeah, Survey Monkey sounds like a real top outfit. ‹/sarcasm›
#331. To: sneakypete (#325)
Trump’s Triumph: Billionaire Blowhard Exposes Fake Political System
August 7, 2015
Counterpunch FOX News Brett Baier (talking to Trump): Now, 15 years ago, you called yourself a liberal on health care. You were for a single-payer system, a Canadian-style system. Why were you for that then and why aren’t you for it now?
#332. To: sneakypete (#325)
And the magazine's guess would be better than Trump's... why?
#333. To: nolu chan (#320)
If the GOPe puts someone at the top of the ticket who is not clearly committed to doing something about illegal immigrants, the GOP will lose.
#334. To: nolu chan (#328)
The former Commodore Hotel, now the four-star Grand Hyatt is hardly rental housing.
#335. To: A K A Stone (#326)
Trumps words moved and he said he wouldn't run third party if he won the nomination. You called that a lie. Which shows you are quite the fool
#336. To: nolu chan (#331)
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There it is, two glorious minutes of pure, unalloyed truth on national television. How often does that happen?
#337. To: nolu chan (#330)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SurveyMonkey
SurveyMonkey is an online survey[6] development cloud-based ("software as a service") company, founded in 1999 by Ryan Finley. SurveyMonkey provides free, customizable surveys, as well as a suite of paid back-end programs that include data analysis, sample selection, bias elimination, and data representation tools.[7] In addition to providing free and paid plans for individual users, SurveyMonkey offers more large-scale enterprise options for companies interested in data analysis, brand management, and consumer-focused marketing.[8] Since releasing its enterprise in 2013, business-focused services, SurveyMonkey has grown dramatically, opening a new headquarters in downtown Palo Alto.[4]
#338. To: nolu chan (#332)
Because they not only sift through public records to determine net worth,but they also have no reason to lie about it.
#339. To: redleghunter (#142)
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#340. To: nolu chan, sneakypete (#331)
How often does a fatcat billionaire-insider appear on TV and announce that the whole system is a big-fat scam run by crooks and patsies?
#341. To: CZ82, redleghunter, Pericles (#339)
...the economy went to schitt, and it will be a Republicans fault somehow...
#342. To: TooConservative, nolu chan (#333)
("If the GOPe puts someone at the top of the ticket who is not clearly committed to doing something about illegal immigrants, the GOP will lose.")
#343. To: sneakypete, nolu chan (#334)
The former Commodore Hotel, now the four-star Grand Hyatt is hardly rental housing.
#344. To: nolu chan (#329)
I wouldn't jump that far ahead [on a Trump Presidency].
#345. To: sneakypete, nolu chan, rlk, Vicomte13, A K A Stone, CZ82, redleghunter, TooConservative (#338)
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Are you SERIOUSLY trying to claim Trump is more trustworthy when talking about his wealth than anyone else you could mention?
#346. To: nolu chan, TooConservative (#330)
Yeah, Survey Monkey sounds like a real top outfit. ‹/sarcasm›
#347. To: Liberator (#346)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SurveyMonkey
#348. To: CZ82 (#339)
#349. To: Liberator, CZ82 (#341)
Commies are NEVER at fault for destroying capitalism. *snicker*
#350. To: Liberator, sneakypete, nolu chan, rlk, Vicomte13, A K A Stone, CZ82 (#345)
Set aside you hatred of Trump for a moment and look at THE BIG PICTURE. Because of Donald Trump's dangerous, personally risky honesty, you've, we've all just witnessed the biggest scandal in political history. The elites' door was kicked in.
#351. To: redleghunter (#350)
It seems there was some grand plan to shove a GOPe candidate down our throats by having so many primary candidates. Seems not everything is going to plan and that upsets the apple cart some.
#352. To: Liberator (#345)
Set aside you hatred of Trump for a moment and look at THE BIG PICTURE.
#353. To: redleghunter (#350)
It seems there was some grand plan to shove a GOPe candidate down our throats
#354. To: sneakypete (#353)
I think the Country Club Republicans that own the RNC and the Dims were hoping for Lady Lindsey to get the nomination. It's the alleged Republicans "turn" to occupy the WH,and Lady Lindsey is someone they can all do business with because he's a in the closet homo,and can be blackmailed.
#355. To: redleghunter (#350)
It is quite comical to watch professional narcissists go at it. Especially when they don't realize they are narcissists:)
#356. To: sneakypete (#353)
I think the Country Club Republicans that own the RNC and the Dims were hoping for Lady Lindsey to get the nomination. It's the alleged Republicans "turn" to occupy the WH,and Lady Lindsey is someone they can all do business with because he's a in the closet homo,and can be blackmailed.
#357. To: redleghunter (#354)
No one likes Lady Lindsey.
#358. To: TooConservative (#356)
And why didn't the Dims blackmail him when he served as the House's prosecutor in impeaching Bill Clinton after the Starr report was submitted?
#359. To: sneakypete (#358)
Probably because they didn't have to ,and he would be more useful in the future if they didn't.
#360. To: TooConservative (#359)
Probably because they didn't have to ,and he would be more useful in the future if they didn't.
#361. To: sneakypete (#338)
Are you SERIOUSLY trying to claim Trump is more trustworthy when talking about his wealth than anyone else you could mention?
On Wednesday, Trump filed his financial disclosure forms. His campaign said Trump’s net worth exceeds $10 billion. They used capital letters.
#362. To: sneakypete (#336)
How many of them are stupid enough to admit they are one of the crooks gaming the system?
#363. To: Liberator (#341)
But I WILL say that the GOPe ARE responsible for growing a gubmint leviathan.
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#364. To: Liberator (#345)
Trump JUST exposed AND CONFIRMED the entire GOP-Dem system as rigged 100%, revealed politicians are ONLY whores-for-hire, WHILE exposing the collusion of the Media, the Dems, AND Establishment GOP...
??? “Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
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