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Title: Trump out at #RSG15; Update: Fiorina to Trump: “There. Is. No. Excuse.”
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URL Source: http://hotair.com/archives/2015/08/07/breaking-trump-out-at-rsg15/
Published: Aug 7, 2015
Author: Ed Morrissey
Post Date: 2015-08-08 10:22:08 by Tooconservative
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Earlier this evening, CNN’s Don Lemon interviewed Donald Trump about the debate on Fox News Channel last night, and set off another Trump-related tempest. After noting that Kelly pushed Trump during the debate, and that she “pushed a lot of people” besides Trump, Lemon asked, “What is it with you and Megyn Kelly?” Trump’s reply was, er … colorful, to say the least [emphasis mine]: TRUMP: Well, I just don’t respect her as a journalist, I have no respect for her. I don’t think she’s very good, I think she’s highly overrated. But when I came out there, you know — what am I doing? I’m not getting paid for this. I go out there, and they start saying this stuff [garbled]. But you know, I didn’t know there’d be 24 million people. I knew it was going to be a big crowd because I get crowds, I get ratings. They call me the ratings machine. So I have, you know, she gets out and she starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions, and you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her … wherever. But in my opinion, she was off base. Kelly did ask Trump tough questions in last night’s debate, but she asked tough questions of Marco Rubio on abortion too, and of other candidates on stage as well. As the front-runner, Trump should have expected tough questions, especially given his track record of supporting nearly every progressive idea at one time or another, including Hillary Clinton being President. Kelly also asked Trump about his remarks about women, which appears to have particularly rankled him — and pushed him into validating Kelly’s premise in asking those questions in the first place. After all, it’s not often when a major party candidate takes a shot at a woman by reminding everyone of her menstrual cycle. I’m certain that will really impress women about their place in the Republican Party. Trump was scheduled to speak at the Red State Gathering tomorrow, in the final slot at the event. Not long after these remarks, event organizer Erick Erickson announced that he had withdrawn the invitation: I have rescinded my invitation to Mr.Trump. While I have tried to give him great latitude, his remark about Megyn Kelly was a bridge too far — Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) August 8, 2015 That will undoubtedly anger some Trump supporters, but after last night’s debate performance and his thin-skinned whining afterward, I wonder if that group wasn’t already in decline. This might fire up the die-hard Trump troops, but suggesting that a journalist went after his target-rich record only because she was menstruating should be a disqualifier for most voters. It’s vastly worse than anything Todd Akin said, and will almost certainly have media outlets demanding responses from the other Republican candidates. It’s practically tailor-made for Democrats to hoist up the Republican War On Women banner, especially Hillary Clinton. Get ready for plenty of Team Trump dog-in-the-manger, sour-grapes quotes in the morning, if not overnight. There may be some legitimate anger among a small group of RSG15 attendees tomorrow who wanted to see Trump at this event, but Erick has a solid case for not wanting to have this overshadow the event tomorrow, with more presidential candidates on hand to make their pitches. Erick will almost certainly address this in the morning, and we’ll see what the fallout is over the rest of the day. Update: Carly Fiorina appears to be the first Republican candidate to respond to Trump’s remarks, perhaps fittingly so (via Twitchy): Mr. Trump: There. Is. No. Excuse. — Carly Fiorina (@CarlyFiorina) August 8, 2015 I stand with @megynkelly. — Carly Fiorina (@CarlyFiorina) August 8, 2015 That’s interesting, because Fiorina actually deflected a Trump question at her presser today at RSG15 by asking why the media wasn’t calling out Obama for his offensive comments about opponents of the Iran deal. Not this time, apparently. Update: Erick has an explanation up at RedState: But I also think that while Mr. Trump resonates with a lot of people with his bluntness, including me to a degree, there are just real lines of decency a person running for President should not trust. His comment was inappropriate. It is unfortunate to have to disinvite him. But I just don’t want someone on stage who gets a hostile question from a lady and his first inclination is to imply it was hormonal. It just was wrong. I have invited Megyn Kelly to attend in Donald Trump’s place tomorrow night. Well, that would be interesting. We’ll see if she can swing that.
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Carly Fiorina: "I'm the new rising star Lion-ess of GOP Presidential candidates!" This broad Fiorina is a hologram. A fake. Wolf in sheeps' clothing. A hedge for Jeb. A totally manufactured candidate who is OBVIOUSLY following a script. She's just as manufactured a product as is the fake outrage against Trump. The Megyn Kelly-led "War on Women!" meme, and the un-holy matrimony of FOX News to the effete GOPe is now exposed to the world. How will Republican voters react to this manipulation? Q: Is there ANYTHING that either FOX News or the GOPe do that isn't contrived, staged bullsh*t?? Their relationship isn't much different than the symbiosis of MSNBC and the Dem Party.
In her rather miserable 2010 CA Senate campaign, she was adamantly pro-choice and on the global hotting side. She was, in fairness, just recovering from surgery and breast cancer and had just lost an adopted daughter. I think she has prepared for and wants to be the new Palin, an attack dog that can defy the usual War On Women themes. She is a much better prepared candidate now than she was in her 2010 race or in her role in 2012 as a highly placed Romney surrogate. Given that she is appealing to the GOP party establishment, it's no surprise she's demoing her willingness to go on the attack yet again.
She was, in fairness, just recovering from surgery and breast cancer and had just lost an adopted daughter. In fairness, why should her personal her problems have played into her life philosophy? In order to be "fair"?? What proof have we that she's sincerely suddenly changed her mind on those two hot-button issues that are traditionally DEM red meat requisites? I think she has prepared for and wants to be the new Palin, an attack dog that can defy the usual War On Women themes. That portrayal appears to be the narrative/script for the time being. But now she's just defied her defiance of the "War on Women" theme by going after Trump. That didn't take long. She is a much better prepared candidate now than she was in her 2010 race or in her role in 2012 as a highly placed Romney surrogate. Yup, I agree wholeheartedly. Fiorina polished inside and outside, and seems to have attended finishing school for GOPe Candidates. Given that she is appealing to the GOP party establishment, it's no surprise she's demoing her willingness to go on the attack yet again. But THIS time, her handlers have jumped on the "Destroy-Trump!" bandwagon, which undoubtedly endears her to the RNC. My impression: Fiorina seems...almost TOO polished, too smooth, too confident. And NOW she can play off and exploit the "War on Women" card and not be treated "meanly" during the campaign. How utterly reptilian AND brilliant!
It is a clever strategy, certainly obvious enough. Donald made an unforced error, Fiorina swoops in to capitalize on it. I saw a number of political consultants who think that Fiorina won both debates on Thursday. No one at the main debate had as good a night as she had in the 5pm debate. Then she raced to PMSNBC and kicked Chrissy Matthews in the balls. So she's on a roll and will definitely make the cut for the main debate upcoming on CNN. Where she can slice and dice Teh Donald to his face for a big audience. Let's imagine how that might go. She attacks him for chummy phone calls with Bill Xlinton and for saying he might run third-party. He makes some angry retort about her tenure as HP CEO. She then says something acidic in return and finishes with, "I hope you don't think I'm bleeding from...somewhere like you said about Megan Kelly, you crude buffoon."
The DNC is probably trying to figure out how they got upstaged with the "Trump plan." They probably see Trump in the race as a master stroke of RNC strategery:) I heard they are now delaying their first debate. Wonder is Vasserman Sholtz is looking for a lightening rod:) As it stands all the Dim candidates are boring. Not good "television."
You know they're trying to script up ways to tar the entire GOP with Trump. Media to any GOP nominee: "Why did you not confront Donald Trump's hate speech toward Mexicans or even Megan Kelly? Aren't you part of the GOP's War On Womyn?" Etc.
Is Trump the tar on the GOP or is the GOP the tar on Trump?
Trump is just Trump, same as ever. He has always been only about himself. Being a New Yorker, he considers the GOP just a line among a few dozen others on the NY state ballot, probably has no idea it isn't like that elsewhere in the country. I think Trump is actually pretty naive about America generally, probably the worst in either field. Donald Trump's life is all about excluding the 99% entirely.
Talking like a Democrat there, Hoss! The GOP is a failed ideological party. I say this as a former Republican. Most party supporters kind of know this. Why? 8 years of Clinton prosperity in contrast to what went on in the Bush 8 years showed - at least subliminally - many Republicans probably had their political "faith" shaken by what happened. Of course these very same GOP members they have been saying all these talking points for years and are stuck in the faith but deep down inside they view their ideology like a failed religion. Sort of how pagans must have felt in the late Roman empire. They still sacrificed at the altar out of habit and tradition but deep down inside they know it is an empty faith.
When Clinton was President the economy was still running on Reagans fumes left in the gas tank. By the time Bush became President the Clinton Stench was already taking hold.
No, that is bullshit and a wilful forgetting of history. The fact that Bush was president in between Clinton and Reagan is forgotten by you? What engine do you know that runs on fumes for 4 years? In any case, Clinton era economy showed that raising taxes has zero effect on an economy. Gingrich and most Republicans screamed that the raising of taxes would tank the economy and that did not happen. Bush came in and cut taxes and the economy sank regardless.
Your talking points deep political commentary is paper thin. I will again mention Bubba was restrained by a GOP dominated House and Senate. Which means he taxed high in the first two years, lost the Dem House majority and was not able to raise taxes the final 6 years. Add to that a GOP balanced budget. If not for the Gingrich Congress, Bubba would have spent us into the same oblivion that Bush 2 and Obola did. The success of Bubba was not raising taxes, which later he said he did too much, but realizing the new GOP congress was not going away and looking for things he could do to increase his legacy. For example the reform of welfare he signed into law. Of course Obola blotted out that accomplishment of Bubba-Gingrich. Stop reading those DC area textbooks. National economics are a lot more complex than we all think. And takes years to figure out all the dynamics. A good explanation here: As for Gingrich, he was quite accurate when he said the economy did better in the '90s after the Republicans took control of Congress, in particular after the '97 tax cuts. In fact, the Gross Domestic Product shrank in the first year after the Clinton tax hikes to an annual rate of 2.9 percent down from 1992's 3.4 percent. That's right: the economy as measured by GDP was better the year before Clinton took office and raised taxes than it was the year after. By far the best years under Clinton came after the Republican tax cuts when the GDP grew annually by 4.5 percent, 4.4 percent, 4.8 percent, and 4.1 percent from 1997 to 2000. The best job creation also occurred after the Republicans took over Congress with less than seven million new jobs created in 1993 and 1994 compared to over sixteen million in the next six years. As for the fiscal impact of the Clinton tax hikes, the left always ignores that we ran budget deficits in his first term. It was only after the Republican tax cuts that surpluses occurred. As for the stock market, Gingrich was of course correct that it did far better after the Republicans took over Congress than the two years when the Democrats controlled everything: I explained this all on Willie's horrible thread where you made the same claims. You did not respond to the data. Here's the entire piece: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/12/09/newt- gingrich-schools-lawrence-odonnell-clinton-tax-hikes
This prediction did not happen. Clearly the economic theory failed to meet the prediction. This contradiction between the official ideology and the facts is what I propose has destroyed confidence in GOP's current ideology on a subliminal level. This I think is the real reason Clinton was deeply hated by the GOP. Clinton was a conservative Democrat more than any in recent history yet he was hated. Why? He exposed the other side's operating thesis as a lie.
You have comprehension issues or just don't read my posts? You have twice responded to me with clips of refuted positions. Also check the time line. Was Newt House speaker in 93? What happened in 94 after the tax increases? How many balanced budgets happened after 95? Look at those balanced budgets and the tax reductions in them that Clinton signed into law. Basically just read everything I posted and you will see O'Donnel never got an apology and was taken to school by Gingrich.
Inflation and unemployment went down despite a tax increase. Sounds like the GOP doom and gloom over a tax increase is a false theory. Unemployment keeps falling. in 1998 it was below 5% all with high taxes especially on the rich. How is this possible per GOP ideology? 1999 Unemployment is at 4.5% - that is like saying pretty much everyone is working. Bush, jr gets elected and cuts taxes and instead of growth or steadiness the economy collapses. Again proving the GOP thesis on taxes and job growth is bullshit. http://www.1990sflashback.com/1993/economy.asp Inflation: 2.9% Consumer Price Index: 144.5 Unemployment: 7.5% http://www.1990sflashback.com/1994/economy.asp Inflation: 2.7% Consumer Price Index: 148.2 Unemployment: 6.9%
Some tweeting about Trump via Mediaite: Come Saturday morning, a few of Fiorina’s fellow GOP candidates offered their tweeted support for her statements and for Kelly. Perhaps the most surprising was the brief vote of confidence from Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker: I agree with @CarlyFiorina, there’s no excuse for Trump’s comments. Stand with @MegynKelly. -SW — Scott Walker (@ScottWalker) August 8, 2015 Former Texas Governor Rick Perry, a frequent verbal combatant of Trump’s, also chimed in with some harsh words for the businessman: .@realDonaldTrump's attack on @megynkelly proves once again that he does not have the temperament to be President. https://t.co/eEp4Zk7uds — Rick Perry (@GovernorPerry) August 8, 2015 A little less surprising was Senator Lindsey Graham, who not only voiced his support for Fiorina and Kelly, but also shared a few choice comments about Trump: .@RealDonaldTrump unrelenting & offensive comments about @MegynKelly puts the @GOP at a crossroads w/Mr. Trump — Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) August 8, 2015 .@GOP – it is better to risk losing w/out @RealDonaldTrump than trying to win w/him — Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) August 8, 2015 .@RealDonaldTrump comments are not worthy of the office he is seeking nor consistent w/the leadership we should expect from POTUS — Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) August 8, 2015 Graham even went so far as to commend Erick Erickson‘s decision to rescind Trump’s invitation to the RedState gathering in Atlanta on Saturday: I applaud Erick Erickson & @RedState for doing the right thing when they disinvited @RealDonaldTrump — Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) August 8, 2015 Even Senator Ted Cruz, one of candidates most friendly to Trump on the trail, spoke out on the matter: Cruz tells reporters “every Republican candidate should treat everyone with respect,” Kelly is “terrific journalist.” Then… (1/2) — daveweigel (@daveweigel) August 8, 2015 However, he quickly added a caveat: … Cruz chastises media for asking. "I'm not going to engage the back and forth on personalities. I get that's what the media loves.” (2/2) — daveweigel (@daveweigel) August 8, 2015 The real fun begins when one digs a little deeper into Twitter’s cesspool of asinine political commentary and trolling. Such is especially the case when surveying the responses of professed social media conservatives. Many support Fiorina’s stance, albeit with the occasional reservation: RT @carlyfiorina: I stand with @megynkelly. — Byron York (@ByronYork) August 8, 2015 I too, after much deliberation, stand with @megynkelly. — David Harsanyi (@davidharsanyi) August 8, 2015 I stand with @megynkelly and @EWErickson #DumpTrump #RSG15 — Katie Pavlich (@KatiePavlich) August 8, 2015 The only #Republican candidate to stand up against .@realDonaldTrump. “@CarlyFiorina: I stand with @megynkelly.” #Trump — Victoria Brownworth (@VABVOX) August 8, 2015 And we stand with you. RT@CarlyFiorina: I stand with @megynkelly. — Carl Gustav (@CaptYonah) August 8, 2015 Others, however, throw their hats into the Trump-branded ring without fail: Yep. I stand with @realDonaldTrump. If Megyn Kelly wants to dish it out & bring personal agenda to a debate, she should be able to take it. — Lauren Michelle (@NYCVixen) August 8, 2015 I’m very sorry to hear this Katie. If you stand w/ @megynkelly I no longer can stand with you. Regretfully so https://t.co/J86Q3OAgp2 — Johanna (@C0nservativeGal) August 8, 2015 megyn kelly stands with Debbie Wasserman Schultz. i don’t stand with megyn. — Mark (@mark85nh) August 8, 2015 Via @CarlyFiorina: I stand with @megynkelly. @realDonaldTrump @DanScavino #Are U worried Mr. Trump will out debate you?? Don’t worry he will — Drew Hanson (@johnnyreb1864) August 8, 2015 @CarlyFiorina terrible decision to stand with a media personality. Terrible. They will flip on you.. Aim higher. — Jayne Patton (@JaynePatton) August 8, 2015 Of course it wouldn’t be the bat sh*t-crazy end of Twitter without at least one conspiracy theorist in the mix: @CarlyFiorina @megynkelly Trump is a plant by the Clinton’s to ensure Hillary wins. He’ll run 3rd party and hand her the White House. — Ryan Schumacher (@NoChillRyan) August 8, 2015
From the c words faceshit page Faye Wall You owe your viewers an apology for your performance last night Kelly ! What Kelly ! What a shame . 1,692 · Yesterday at 11:45am .. 58 Replies · 5 mins . Shana Doty Disappointed in your performance last night. Totally disappointed. I guess EVER ON guess EVER ONE does have an agenda 1,303 · Yesterday at 11:30am .. 50 Replies · 6 mins . Diane Sroka Benjamin Fox had a chance to educate the public last night. Instead you played go you played gotcha politics. MSNBC could have done better. Huge audience and you blew it. 7 blew it. 7,023 · Yesterday at 11:27am .. 279 Replies · 1 hr . Charles Franco Fox and you were the losers last night Megyn, not Trump. 937 · Yesterday at 11:28am .. 14 Replies · 14 mins . Jack Schnitz Last night was Megyn Kelly's audition for MSNBC. 3,765 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 74 Replies · 1 hr . Shauna Baldy 9 out of 10 Americans now dislike Megyn Kelly. {the other 1 still loves obama}..... Well done Fox, well done Megyn, your attempts to hurt Trump backfired, and now more than ever, Americans are on his side. "Oopsie" on your part!!!! Sham part!!!! Shame on you for no...See More 908 · Yesterday at 1:55pm · Edited .. 48 Replies · 1 hr . Rick Germain You really bought into the whole Democrat "War on Women" falsehood, Megyn Kelly. Took you for smarter than that. Sad and disappointed. 3,110 · Yesterday at 11:27am .. 89 Replies · 26 mins . Elaine D Love Megan bought and paid for by the establishment. So disappointed 2,837 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 110 Replies · 5 hrs . Mary Walker Still haven't outgrown that high school mean girl phase, huh? You ruined what c ruined what could have been an epic debate last night. 2,818 · Yesterday at 11:27am .. 117 Replies · 34 mins . Victor Cropp You're a disgrace. I hope you enjoy all the backlash from implementing implementing your "secret plan" to embarrass the front runner. Trump 2016! 706 · Yesterday at 11:26am .. 22 Replies · 4 mins . KarenMarie Saracino It should not be so obvious that you hate Donald Trump. In a one on one a one on one interview, ok , but as a debate moderator.... It was very Candy Crowley. 6 Crowley. 694 · Yesterday at 11:30am .. 11 Replies · 6 hrs . Joshua Galle Megyn, here is what I sent your executives this morning at 2:15am following the debates, and then sent as open letter all over social media. I've tracked 7,500+ likes or shares this far and google analytics show you took a bashing from your prior foll...See More 4,031 · Yesterday at 11:35am .. 554 Replies · 29 mins . Bryce Lambley You were rotten last night. Blew it completely. Had a chance to educate the p educate the public and instead were petty and childish. What a ruined opportunity, opportunity, and it's going to be hard to get your respect back. It is NOT ABOUT YOU. So ABOUT YOU. Sorry, but so disappointed in your behavior last night. 671 · Yesterday at 11:41am .. 7 Replies · 5 hrs . Fran Jasmine Very disappointed... 675 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 10 Replies · 5 hrs . M Daniel Lewis Our nation is pushing 20 trillion in debt, Iran is getting nukes, ISIS is chopping off Americans heads and burning people alive in cages, our government is paying an agency to chop up and sell the body parts of aborted babies and YOU are asking a candidate to address an imaginary war on women issue created by the Democratic Party? Shame on you kelly 2,518 · Yesterday at 11:29am .. 111 Replies · 29 mins . Alexander Carr Won't be following fox news or megyn Kelly anymore after last night. Disapp night. Disappointed 613 · Yesterday at 11:40am .. 6 Replies · 1 hr . Kendall Smith you looked good but you went after DT too hard backlash will be brutal on bot brutal on both you and him! I thought you were more fair and balanced than that! 1,811 · Yesterday at 11:29am · Edited .. 78 Replies · 4 hrs . Kevin Wilson Megyn, the listeners sure are bashing you about last night. I hope you have a re you have a response to the criticism on tonight's show. Don't act like A Clinton and t Clinton and think we don't deserve an answer. 585 · Yesterday at 11:35am .. 24 Replies · 1 hr . Jeff Navarro You disappointed me last night. Unexceptable behavior. 2,234 · Yesterday at 11:27am .. 77 Replies · 6 hrs . David S Ficco Definitely not fair and balanced last night. Very dissappointed dissappointed.... 518 · Yesterday at 11:33am .. 4 Replies · 1 hr . Keith Peterka Sorry Megan you were the Democrats and Establishment mobster. Very disappointed in the lack of professionalism. 524 · Yesterday at 11:26am .. 19 Replies · 1 hr . Rob Shooer Megyn Kelly proved to be no better than any MSNBC "journalist" looking to ask the gotcha question. Her questions were weighted against certain candidates, and it's time for her to just go to CNN where her style of journalism is advocated. Her question to Trump about women could have been a legitimate one, had she not added her own acusations, spin and slant. She's objective? Ha! 505 · Yesterday at 11:34am · Edited .. 8 Replies · 1 hr . James Eberle After last nights questions by Megyn Kelly on the debates, I have decided to Unfriend her on FaceBook. No class Megyn, Very disappointed in the lack of professionalism. 524 · Yesterday at 11:26am .. 19 Replies · 1 hr . Rob Shooer Megyn Kelly proved to be no better than any MSNBC "journalist" looking to ask the gotcha question. Her questions were weighted against certain candidates, and it's time for her to just go to CNN where her style of journalism is advocated. Her question to Trump about women could have been a legitimate one, had she not added her own acusations, spin and slant. She's objective? Ha! 505 · Yesterday at 11:34am · Edited .. 8 Replies · 1 hr . James Eberle After last nights questions by Megyn Kelly on the debates, I have decided to Unfriend her on FaceBook. No class Megyn, NO CLASS! 1,929 · Yesterday at 11:29am .. 128 Replies · 1 hr . RexandLinda McAdam Very disappointed in your performance last night. I have been a fa looking to ask the gotcha question. Her questions were weighted against certain candidates, and it's time for her to just go to CNN where her style of journalism is advocated. Her question to Trump about women could have been a legitimate one, had she not added her own acusations, spin and slant. She's objective? Ha! 505 · Yesterday at 11:34am · Edited .. 8 Replies · 1 hr . James Eberle After last nights questions by Megyn Kelly on the debates, I have decided to Unfriend her on FaceBook. No class Megyn, NO CLASS! 1,929 · Yesterday at 11:29am .. 128 Replies · 1 hr . RexandLinda McAdam Very disappointed in your performance last night. I have been a fan for a long time, but will probably take a break from your show for a while. Pr candidates, and it's time for her to just go to CNN where her style of journalism is advocated. Her question to Trump about women could have been a legitimate one, had she not added her own acusations, spin and slant. She's objective? Ha! 505 · Yesterday at 11:34am · Edited .. 8 Replies · 1 hr . James Eberle After last nights questions by Megyn Kelly on the debates, I have decided to Unfriend her on FaceBook. No class Megyn, NO CLASS! 1,929 · Yesterday at 11:29am .. 128 Replies · 1 hr . RexandLinda McAdam Very disappointed in your performance last night. I have been a fan for a long time, but will probably take a break from your show for a while. Prior to the debate the viewers were told that all would get the same amo journalism is advocated. Her question to Trump about women could have been a legitimate one, had she not added her own acusations, spin and slant. She's objective? Ha! 505 · Yesterday at 11:34am · Edited .. 8 Replies · 1 hr . James Eberle After last nights questions by Megyn Kelly on the debates, I have decided to Unfriend her on FaceBook. No class Megyn, NO CLASS! 1,929 · Yesterday at 11:29am .. 128 Replies · 1 hr . RexandLinda McAdam Very disappointed in your performance last night. I have been a fan for a long time, but will probably take a break from your show for a while. Prior to the debate the viewers were told that all would get the same amount of time. This did not happen. The questions were not as "fair or balanced legitimate one, had she not added her own acusations, spin and slant. She's objective? Ha! 505 · Yesterday at 11:34am · Edited .. 8 Replies · 1 hr . James Eberle After last nights questions by Megyn Kelly on the debates, I have decided to Unfriend her on FaceBook. No class Megyn, NO CLASS! 1,929 · Yesterday at 11:29am .. 128 Replies · 1 hr . RexandLinda McAdam Very disappointed in your performance last night. I have been a fan for a long time, but will probably take a break from your show for a while. Prior to the debate the viewers were told that all would get the same amount of time. This did not happen. The questions were not as "fair or balanced" as promised. 465 · Yesterday at 11:30am .. 2 Replie objective? Ha! 505 · Yesterday at 11:34am · Edited .. 8 Replies · 1 hr . James Eberle After last nights questions by Megyn Kelly on the debates, I have decided to Unfriend her on FaceBook. No class Megyn, NO CLASS! 1,929 · Yesterday at 11:29am .. 128 Replies · 1 hr . RexandLinda McAdam Very disappointed in your performance last night. I have been a fan for a long time, but will probably take a break from your show for a while. Prior to the debate the viewers were told that all would get the same amount of time. This did not happen. The questions were not as "fair or balanced" as promised. 465 · Yesterday at 11:30am .. 2 Replies · 5 hrs . Mike Webb I'm really disappointed in you and Fox. 1,765 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 48 Replies · 4 hrs . decided to Unfriend her on FaceBook. No class Megyn, NO CLASS! 1,929 · Yesterday at 11:29am .. 128 Replies · 1 hr . RexandLinda McAdam Very disappointed in your performance last night. I have been a fan for a long time, but will probably take a break from your show for a while. Prior to the debate the viewers were told that all would get the same amount of time. This did not happen. The questions were not as "fair or balanced" as promised. 465 · Yesterday at 11:30am .. 2 Replies · 5 hrs . Mike Webb I'm really disappointed in you and Fox. 1,765 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 48 Replies · 4 hrs . Cheryl Simpson There were more important questions than his ancient tiff with Rosie... 1,751 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 41 Replies · 2 hrs . Ale Cardenas been a fan for a long time, but will probably take a break from your show for a while. Prior to the debate the viewers were told that all would get the same amount of time. This did not happen. The questions were not as "fair or balanced" as promised. 465 · Yesterday at 11:30am .. 2 Replies · 5 hrs . Mike Webb I'm really disappointed in you and Fox. 1,765 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 48 Replies · 4 hrs . Cheryl Simpson There were more important questions than his ancient tiff with Rosie... 1,751 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 41 Replies · 2 hrs . Ale Cardenas Nuñez Not "fair and balanced" Very disappointed! 424 · Yesterday at 11:32am while. Prior to the debate the viewers were told that all would get the same amount of time. This did not happen. The questions were not as "fair or balanced" as promised. 465 · Yesterday at 11:30am .. 2 Replies · 5 hrs . Mike Webb I'm really disappointed in you and Fox. 1,765 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 48 Replies · 4 hrs . Cheryl Simpson There were more important questions than his ancient tiff with Rosie... 1,751 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 41 Replies · 2 hrs . Ale Cardenas Nuñez Not "fair and balanced" Very disappointed! 424 · Yesterday at 11:32am .. 9 Replies . Joan Hunter Incredi amount of time. This did not happen. The questions were not as "fair or balanced" as promised. 465 · Yesterday at 11:30am .. 2 Replies · 5 hrs . Mike Webb I'm really disappointed in you and Fox. 1,765 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 48 Replies · 4 hrs . Cheryl Simpson There were more important questions than his ancient tiff with Rosie... 1,751 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 41 Replies · 2 hrs . Ale Cardenas Nuñez Not "fair and balanced" Very disappointed! 424 · Yesterday at 11:32am .. 9 Replies . Joan Hunter Incredibly difficult to find the "fair & balanced" during the debate last night balanced" as promised. 465 · Yesterday at 11:30am .. 2 Replies · 5 hrs . Mike Webb I'm really disappointed in you and Fox. 1,765 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 48 Replies · 4 hrs . Cheryl Simpson There were more important questions than his ancient tiff with Rosie... 1,751 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 41 Replies · 2 hrs . Ale Cardenas Nuñez Not "fair and balanced" Very disappointed! 424 · Yesterday at 11:32am .. 9 Replies . Joan Hunter Incredibly difficult to find the "fair & balanced" during the debate last night. Very, very disappointed! 1,597 · Yesterday at 11:28am .. 29 Replies · 51 mins . Jenny Cason Crowson Classless act last night. Very disappointed in your behavior. 412 · Yesterday at 11:36am .. 1 Reply . Rosie... 1,751 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 41 Replies · 2 hrs . Ale Cardenas Nuñez Not "fair and balanced" Very disappointed! 424 · Yesterday at 11:32am .. 9 Replies . Joan Hunter Incredibly difficult to find the "fair & balanced" during the debate last night. Very, very disappointed! 1,597 · Yesterday at 11:28am .. 29 Replies · 51 mins . Jenny Cason Crowson Classless act last night. Very disappointed in your behavior. 412 · Yesterday at 11:36am .. 1 Reply . Jeff Koffron Very disappointed in your performance last night Megyn. Sorry but you had a real chance to promote the Republican Party and bring positive notice to our candidates and, instead, you choose to be catty and disrespectful, pushing your own agenda to the forefront. Reall debate last night. Very, very disappointed! 1,597 · Yesterday at 11:28am .. 29 Replies · 51 mins . Jenny Cason Crowson Classless act last night. Very disappointed in your behavior. 412 · Yesterday at 11:36am .. 1 Reply . Jeff Koffron Very disappointed in your performance last night Megyn. Sorry but you had a real chance to promote the Republican Party and bring positive notice to our candidates and, instead, you choose to be catty and disrespectful, pushing your own agenda to the forefront. Really like your show but really, really disappointed last night. 400 · Yesterday at 11:44am .. 13 Replies · 2 mins . Gary O'Flynn No Christmas card f behavior. 412 · Yesterday at 11:36am .. 1 Reply . Jeff Koffron Very disappointed in your performance last night Megyn. Sorry but you had a real chance to promote the Republican Party and bring positive notice to our candidates and, instead, you choose to be catty and disrespectful, pushing your own agenda to the forefront. Really like your show but really, really disappointed last night. 400 · Yesterday at 11:44am .. 13 Replies · 2 mins . Gary O'Flynn No Christmas card for you this year, Megan. Last night was a 'typical' media butcher job on the people you don't personally like. So much for fair and balanced. 406 · you had a real chance to promote the Republican Party and bring positive notice to our candidates and, instead, you choose to be catty and disrespectful, pushing your own agenda to the forefront. Really like your show but really, really disappointed last night. 400 · Yesterday at 11:44am .. 13 Replies · 2 mins . Gary O'Flynn No Christmas card for you this year, Megan. Last night was a 'typical' media butcher job on the people you don't personally like. So much for fair and balanced. 406 · Yesterday at 11:32am .. 5 Replies . to our candidates and, instead, you choose to be catty and disrespectful, pushing your own agenda to the forefront. Really like your show but really, really disappointed last night. 400 · Yesterday at 11:44am .. 13 Replies · 2 mins . Gary O'Flynn No Christmas card for you this year, Megan. Last night was a 'typical' media butcher job on the people you don't personally like. So much for fair and balanced. 406 · Yesterday at 11:32am .. 5 Replies . Michael Moran So when is the Kelly File moving to MSNBC? 1,624 · Yeste pushing your own agenda to the forefront. Really like your show but really, really disappointed last night. 400 · Yesterday at 11:44am .. 13 Replies · 2 mins . Gary O'Flynn No Christmas card for you this year, Megan. Last night was a 'typical' media butcher job on the people you don't personally like. So much for fair and balanced. 406 · Yesterday at 11:32am .. 5 Replies . Michael Moran So when is the Kelly File moving to MSNBC? 1,624 · Yesterday at 11:30am .. 64 Replies · 2 hrs . really disappointed last night. 400 · Yesterday at 11:44am .. 13 Replies · 2 mins . Gary O'Flynn No Christmas card for you this year, Megan. Last night was a 'typical' media butcher job on the people you don't personally like. So much for fair and balanced. 406 · Yesterday at 11:32am .. 5 Replies . Michael Moran So when is the Kelly File moving to MSNBC? 1,624 · Yesterday at 11:30am .. 64 Replies · 2 hrs . Candace Lausman Kollath Disappointed in your ambush of Trump. It was below you, &'probably elevated him in the polls. Happy? 1,442 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. a 'typical' media butcher job on the people you don't personally like. So much for fair and balanced. 406 · Yesterday at 11:32am .. 5 Replies . Michael Moran So when is the Kelly File moving to MSNBC? 1,624 · Yesterday at 11:30am .. 64 Replies · 2 hrs . Candace Lausman Kollath Disappointed in your ambush of Trump. It was below you, &'probably elevated him in the polls. Happy? 1,442 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 69 Replies · 2 hrs . Keri Trefny You were to for fair and balanced. 406 · Yesterday at 11:32am .. 5 Replies . Michael Moran So when is the Kelly File moving to MSNBC? 1,624 · Yesterday at 11:30am .. 64 Replies · 2 hrs . Candace Lausman Kollath Disappointed in your ambush of Trump. It was below you, &'probably elevated him in the polls. Happy? 1,442 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 69 Replies · 2 hrs . Keri Trefny You were totally disgusting last night! Check out social media out about you and your performance ! Alot of your viewers you lost last night !...See More 404 · Yesterday at 11:27am .. 8 Replies . Constantine Rojas Soriao Megyn Kelly has never been that tough &'probably elevated him in the polls. Happy? 1,442 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 69 Replies · 2 hrs . Keri Trefny You were totally disgusting last night! Check out social media out about you and your performance ! Alot of your viewers you lost last night !...See More 404 · Yesterday at 11:27am .. 8 Replies . Constantine Rojas Soriao Megyn Kelly has never been that tough on her illegal alien guest, Jose Antonio Vargas so why start on our Dear Leader Donald Trump? Trump is an American citizen. Why so much hate on your fellow patriots? Why so much love with a criminal who isn't suppose to be here? 401 · Yesterday at 11:26am .. 12 Replies · 3 hrs . Greg Peyton Megyn Kelly, YOU'RE FIRED.... 1,860 · Yesterday at 11:57am · Edited .. alien guest, Jose Antonio Vargas so why start on our Dear Leader Donald Trump? Trump is an American citizen. Why so much hate on your fellow patriots? Why so much love with a criminal who isn't suppose to be here? 401 · Yesterday at 11:26am .. 12 Replies · 3 hrs . Greg Peyton Megyn Kelly, YOU'RE FIRED.... 1,860 · Yesterday at 11:57am · Edited .. 79 Replies · 4 hrs . Dennis Gonzales At the top of my list were: the economy, the 18 trillion dollar debt, beheadings, radrica much love with a criminal who isn't suppose to be here? 401 · Yesterday at 11:26am .. 12 Replies · 3 hrs . Greg Peyton Megyn Kelly, YOU'RE FIRED.... 1,860 · Yesterday at 11:57am · Edited .. 79 Replies · 4 hrs . Dennis Gonzales At the top of my list were: the economy, the 18 trillion dollar debt, beheadings, radrical Islam, Obama's trampling on the constitution, and the rampant corruption in Wash DC, After Kelly opened the debate with her question to Trump, I did not realize the more important question facing the nation was Trump's name calling of Rosie Odonnell ! ! ! 1,652 · Yesterday at 11:29am .. 78 Replies · 1 hr . debt, beheadings, radrical Islam, Obama's trampling on the constitution, and the rampant corruption in Wash DC, After Kelly opened the debate with her question to Trump, I did not realize the more important question facing the nation was Trump's name calling of Rosie Odonnell ! ! ! 1,652 · Yesterday at 11:29am .. 78 Replies · 1 hr . Edmond Sarpong You could have done better. You pissed the rampant corruption in Wash DC, After Kelly opened the debate with her question to Trump, I did not realize the more important question facing the nation was Trump's name calling of Rosie Odonnell ! ! ! 1,652 · Yesterday at 11:29am .. 78 Replies · 1 hr . Edmond Sarpong You could have done better. You pissed me off with the Trump questions 379 · Yesterday at 11:26am .. question to Trump, I did not realize the more important question facing the nation was Trump's name calling of Rosie Odonnell ! ! ! 1,652 · Yesterday at 11:29am .. 78 Replies · 1 hr . Edmond Sarpong You could have done better. You pissed me off with the Trump questions 379 · Yesterday at 11:26am .. 7 Replies · 1 hr . Susan Biroc You are a nation was Trump's name calling of Rosie Odonnell ! ! ! 1,652 · Yesterday at 11:29am .. 78 Replies · 1 hr . Edmond Sarpong You could have done better. You pissed me off with the Trump questions 379 · Yesterday at 11:26am .. 7 Replies · 1 hr . Susan Biroc You are a falling star after your display last night. I hope Trump gets in. Funny thing Megyn.... before the debate started hubby and I said to each other... wouldn't Megyn make a great press secretary to Trump? No questions 379 · Yesterday at 11:26am .. 7 Replies · 1 hr . Susan Biroc You are a falling star after your display last night. I hope Trump gets in. Funny thing Megyn.... before the debate started hubby and I said to each other... wouldn't Megyn make a great press secretary to Trump? Now most of your fans can't stand you after your pitiful, arrogant unprofessionalism reared it's ugly head. 359 · Yesterday at 11:33am .. gets in. Funny thing Megyn.... before the debate started hubby and I said to each other... wouldn't Megyn make a great press secretary to Trump? Now most of your fans can't stand you after your pitiful, arrogant unprofessionalism reared it's ugly head. 359 · Yesterday at 11:33am .. 19 Replies · 37 mins . Sherri Shelby Springer You dis each other... wouldn't Megyn make a great press secretary to Trump? Now most of your fans can't stand you after your pitiful, arrogant unprofessionalism reared it's ugly head. 359 · Yesterday at 11:33am .. 19 Replies · 37 mins . Sherri Shelby Springer You disappointed me last night 1,327 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 2 your fans can't stand you after your pitiful, arrogant unprofessionalism reared it's ugly head. 359 · Yesterday at 11:33am .. 19 Replies · 37 mins . Sherri Shelby Springer You disappointed me last night 1,327 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 23 Replies · 10 hrs . Cindi Kalla Lesnick So unprofession it's ugly head. 359 · Yesterday at 11:33am .. 19 Replies · 37 mins . Sherri Shelby Springer You disappointed me last night 1,327 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 23 Replies · 10 hrs . Cindi Kalla Lesnick So unprofessional with a 'performance' of a kindergartener...smh......Apparently the 'plan' that was put in place to deal with someone who didn't go along with the rules was geared at the wrong person.........backfired bigtime .... 328 · Yesterday at 11:30am .. 2 Replies · 6 kindergartener...smh......Apparently the 'plan' that was put in place to deal with someone who didn't go along with the rules was geared at the wrong person.........backfired bigtime .... 328 · Yesterday at 11:30am .. 2 Replies · 6 hrs . Andrew Klatt For whatever it's worth to you, yo with someone who didn't go along with the rules was geared at the wrong person.........backfired bigtime .... 328 · Yesterday at 11:30am .. 2 Replies · 6 hrs . Andrew Klatt For whatever it's worth to you, your performance during last night's debate is resulting in me removing yo person.........backfired bigtime .... 328 · Yesterday at 11:30am .. 2 Replies · 6 hrs . Andrew Klatt For whatever it's worth to you, your performance during last night's debate is resulting in me removing you from my Facebook, and also, me never tuning in to watch your program. Your agenda last night was very transparent, and this is a huge black eye to the FoxNews network. 326 · Yest night's debate is resulting in me removing you from my Facebook, and also, me never tuning in to watch your program. Your agenda last night was very transparent, and this is a huge black eye to the FoxNews network. 326 · Yesterday at 11:26am .. 5 Replies · 6 hrs . never tuning in to watch your program. Your agenda last night was very transparent, and this is a huge black eye to the FoxNews network. 326 · Yesterday at 11:26am .. 5 Replies · 6 hrs . Susan Brosmer Barrier Was more an interrogation then debate quest transparent, and this is a huge black eye to the FoxNews network. 326 · Yesterday at 11:26am .. 5 Replies · 6 hrs . Susan Brosmer Barrier Was more an interrogation then debate questions Megyn. Every 'question' was prefaced with a derogatory statement about the candidate. A member of the audience had to bring up the status of veterans to you! Very disappointed. 304 · Yesterday at 11:40am Every 'question' was prefaced with a derogatory statement about the candidate. A member of the audience had to bring up the status of veterans to you! Very disappointed. 304 · Yesterday at 11:40am .. 3 Replies . Debbie Kirby Super dis A member of the audience had to bring up the status of veterans to you! Very disappointed. 304 · Yesterday at 11:40am .. 3 Replies . Debbie Kirby Super disappointed in your display last night. 1,263 · Yesterday at 11:24am .. disappointed. 304 · Yesterday at 11:40am .. 3 Replies . Debbie Kirby Super disappointed in your display last night. 1,263 · Yesterday at 11:24am .. 48 Replies · 7 hrs . Gregory Rehak Your fired after last night! Fair and balanced yea right 267 · Yesterday at 11:44am .. 3 Replies · 1 hr . Scot Garland Megyn Kelly you totally blew it 255 · Yesterday at 11:44am .. Erica M Stewart Saddened by your commentary last night. Deeply disappointed in all three of you. 536 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 8 Replies . all three of you. 536 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 8 Replies . Heather Feather YOUR remarks to Donald J. Trump last night were VERY unprofessional and despicable. I think you owe him and the American people an apo unprofessional and despicable. I think you owe him and the American people an apology...frown emoticon 251 · Yesterday at 11:29am .. 23 apology...frown emoticon 251 · Yesterday at 11:29am .. 23 Replies · 1 hr . Randy Bowen Megyn Kelly, I lost all respect for you last night. 705 · Yesterday at 11:33am .. 11 Replies . Tom LaLumiere Was it walking down this corridor that you decided to abandon the role of Moderator and conduct role of Moderator and conduct an ambush instead? 239 · Yesterday at 11:32am .. 1 Reply . Brent Wilson Megyn Kelly - Sad that you chose to attack people rather than just ask ask the important questions. You guys tried to set Trump up from the very first que question. What happened to fair and balanced? 227 · Yesterday at 11:42am
“This was more of an inquisition than it was a debate,” Graham said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” on Friday morning. “It was a missed opportunity to talk about things that really mattered.” Graham charged that debate moderators Bret Baier, Chris Wallace and Megyn Kelly were particularly unfair in their questioning of Trump, the outspoken billionaire who is leading many GOP polls. “At the end of the day, ask the man a question that explains his position and his solutions rather than a ten-minute question that describes him as the biggest bastard on the planet,” Graham quipped.
It's nonsense. Trump doesn't even have a campaign now that Roger Stone has left him. No one can seriously think that Trump was going to get the nomination without libmedia going after him tooth and nail on his three divorces, his history of outrageous remarks, his four bankruptcies (including some outright swindles of middle class home buyers).
Sounds like No financials, no FEC, McCain comments sunk him, etc. Yep Trump has no campaign because some guy got fired. Do you really believe the nonsense you spout? Because it is almost always wrong when it is political.
We'll see how long Trump lasts. We've had exactly one debate. Like most diehard supporters of a frontrunner in a primary campaign, you mostly want to declare the race is over and that your candidate is the nominee long before unreliable Iowa has held its corrupt and largely phony caucuses. And after Trump flames out, we'll all get the same line of "inevitability" from the Bush camp. In fact, Trump's presence in the race is helping Bush to secure the nomination and keeping alternatives to Bush from getting money and campaign attention. The Trumpsters of 2015 are no more convincing than the Cainiacs or the Gin-grinches of 2011. And the result will be the same. Enjoy it while it lasts. Which won't be much longer because you have a lousy and undisciplined candidate that likes to shoot his mouth off and who has no real staff that have ever run a successful state campaign, let alone have any experience in a national campaign (not even a losing national campaign). People always say they're sick of politicians and want someone else. And yet, given the choice, they almost always pick the smoothest professional politician. There are rare exceptions, like Berlusconi of Italy (who may evenutally return to power after conviction for tax fraud and an underage sex scandal). Hard to find any other examples where some outsider tycoon has won an election in a major country. Berlusconi has an advantage in that Italy is so grossly corrupt and mismanaged, even more obviously to voters than America suffers from its own pols.
You've cried wolf to many times to be taken seriously.
I'm patient. Teh Donald already has (or soon will) pull the pin and then jump on his own grenade. It is his nature.
Here is why I say you are clueless. You don't understand how pissed people are at the government. Trump voters aren't going to abandon him. Do you not unders understand that? There may be a few that do a tiny sliver, very tiny. Once you understand that you might make better predictions about the future. It really is that simple. I like him. I like his F U attitude towards as assholes. So again the lesson is. Trump supporters aren't going to abandon him. No ma matter what. Megan Kelly and Eric Ericson are damaged goods now. Their expiration date is coming up real soon.
Trump is an arrogant snob. He would otherwise be cleaning latrines in some business sector building if it wasn't for his daddy.
He did have a good father. Who taught him well. So well that he surpassed his father father. I guess you support the government taking away the inheritance that fathers work for for to pass on to their family. You're kind of like Karl Marx. You really don't have a clue or any solutions. You just whine a lot.
Trump's father was one of the biggest slumlords in NYC. As a major real estate mogul, he wielded substantial political power as well. After Donald graduated from Wharton, his father gave him a rundown slum property in the Midwest and the financing to remodel it and make it a success. That was how Donald started out. He did gravitate toward casinos and luxury properties, now with big country clubs as part of a package deal. In other words, his real customers and associates are the 1%ers. I doubt Trump has ever spent any time with anyone who isn't at least a millionaire. People like him arrange their schedules and affairs so they never meet or have any contact with their landscapers and the people who clean their houses. Trump is in the top 1% of the 1%, going by his own claims. That you try to portray him as some humble man of the people would be laughable if it weren't so pathetic.
You are parroting clueless assholes. Being in the rental business is a legitimate business. There is nothing wrong with with providing housing for low income families. Since you know so much about his father. Tell me about 5 of the houses he rented out. Tell me for how much and I want pictures of the houses and the insides. Otherwise you are just lying again.
Hooey. Frederick Christ Trump owned 27,000 properties in NYC. Other than a handful of respectable flagship properties, these were overwhelmingly in low-income areas and were neglected properties. He was a slumlord in NYC back in the years when NYC teetered on bankruptcy, suffering high crime.
So you can't document you can only parrot. You should have nolu chan give you some advice on how to document your claims.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump Donald Trump [excerpt - citations omitted] In 1971, Trump moved to Manhattan and became involved in larger building projects and used attractive architectural design to win public recognition. He made plans to acquire and develop the old Penn Central for $60 million with no money down. Later, with the help of a 40-year tax abatement from the New York City government, he turned the bankrupt Commodore Hotel into the Grand Hyatt and created The Trump Organization. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Trump Fred Trump [excerpt - citations omitted] In the late 1920s, Trump began building single-family houses in Queens, which were sold for $3,990 each. By the mid-1930s in the middle of the Great Depression, he helped pioneer the concept of supermarkets with the Trump Market in Woodhaven, which advertised "Serve Yourself and Save!", becoming an instant hit. After only a year Trump sold it for a tidy profit to the King Kullen supermarket chain. During World War II, Trump built barracks and garden apartments for U.S. Navy personnel near major shipyards along the East Coast, including Chester, Pennsylvania, Newport News, Virginia, and Norfolk, Virginia. After the war he expanded into middle-income housing for the families of returning veterans, building Shore Haven in Bensonhurst in 1949, and Beach Haven near Coney Island in 1950 (a total of 2,700 apartments). In 1963 he built the 3,800-apartment Trump Village in Coney Island, competing with Lefrak City in Queens. Trump went on to build and operate affordable rental housing via large apartment complexes in New York City, including more than 27,000 low-income multifamily apartments and row houses in the neighborhoods of Coney Island, Bensonhurst, Sheepshead Bay, Flatbush, and Brighton Beach in Brooklyn, and Flushing and Jamaica Estates in Queens. In 1968 his 22-year-old son Donald Trump joined his company Trump Management Co., becoming president in 1974, and renaming it The Trump Organization in 1980. In the mid-1970s he lent his son money, allowing him to go into the real estate business in Manhattan, while he stuck to Brooklyn and Queens. "It was good for me," he later commented. "You know, being the son of somebody, it could have been competition to me. This way, I got Manhattan all to myself." Although a self-made millionaire, Trump was known for his frugality, saving unused nails, doing his own extermination work and mixing his own floor cleaners. Nevertheless, he insisted on buying a new Navy Cadillac every three years, with license plate "FCT". By the time of his death, Trump was estimated to have amassed a fortune worth $250 to $300 million.
A bit different than how Hitlery's fortune was made; OR, the Kenyan in Chief. Or the Bushes. OR the entire elite political class.
No,identical. It was all made from making deals with the government for tax breaks and low or no interest loans. You even point that out yourself in the quote. Why can't you see this?
Why can't you see this? Because I'm obvious not shorting, sniffing, popping, guzzling whatever *you're* on. Seriously -- are you able to READ Trump's bio?? If you actually believe what Trump has accomplished to earn their fortune is NO different than Hitlery, the Kenyan in Chief, or Bushes, then you'd better switch psychiatrists. Your sense of reality is shot.
Seriously -- are you able to READ Trump's bio?? Yes. I can even understand it. The family wealth came from sweetheart deals with politicians and payoffs to them and building inspectors. Or maybe you think NYC gives 40 YEAR tax exemptions to everyone building rental housing?
#291. To: sneakypete (#289)
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YOU claimed the means to Trump's wealth was "identical" to the aforementioned thieves. No matter WHAT you believe, the Trumps BUILT stuff. That mean they EARNED at minimum SOME of their wealth (as opposed to the others, who "earned" ZERO wealth.) Still standing by your original statement?
The former Commodore Hotel, now the four-star Grand Hyatt is hardly rental housing. It is on East 42nd St. between Lex and Park Place, next to Grand Central Station, and within walking distance of Times Square and the Empire State Building. This was the renovation subject to the 40 year abatement on property taxes. The below article includes before and after images. Changing that from the 1919 Commodore to the 4-star 1980 Grand Hyatt made a small fortune for NYC. Only the property taxes were abated. They couldn't make much from the previous bankrupt owner. This is not unusual for major corporate investments now. http://www.timeshutter.com/image/commodore-hotel-new-york The original Commodore opened on January 28, 1919. It was designed by Warren & Wetmore, and was part of a project known as Terminal City that was conceived to bring hotel and office buildings to the area around Grand Central Station. All were owned by the New York State Realty and Terminal Company, a division of the New York Central Railroad—a company in which Cornelius Vanderbilt (a.k.a. the Commodore) had a controlling interest. The Bowman-Biltmore Hotels Corporation leased the property, designed the hotel’s interior, and ran it. Bowman-Biltmore's own Herbert R. Stone oversaw the decor of all 2,000 rooms, including the lobby, which was also the single largest room of the day. It had modern low ceilings and an indoor waterfall. By 1929, Bowman-Biltmore was also running the adjacent Biltmore Hotel and the nearby Roosevelt Hotel, which gave them access to all the northeast corridor railroad passenger traffic in and out of New York City. With such a pedigree, it’s only fitting that the hotel ended up in the hands of Donald Trump. He bought it in 1977, when its railroad company owner was bankrupt. Trump decided to completely rebuild the hotel. The first few floors were gutted down to their steel frame. The architects left the exterior bricks of the Commodore in place, covering them with the reflective glass skin. The hotel re-opened in 1980 as the Grand Hyatt New York.
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#25. To: Liberator (#3)
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This broad Fiorina is a hologram. A fake. Wolf in sheeps' clothing. A hedge for Jeb.
#38. To: TooConservative (#25)
In her rather miserable 2010 CA Senate campaign, she was adamantly pro-choice and on the global hotting side.
#41. To: Liberator (#38)
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But THIS time, her handlers have jumped on the "Destroy-Trump!" bandwagon, which undoubtedly endears her to the RNC. My impression: Fiorina seems...almost TOO polished, too smooth, too confident. And NOW she can play off and exploit the "War on Women" card and not be treated "meanly" during the campaign. How utterly reptilian AND brilliant!
#89. To: TooConservative (#41)
#92. To: redleghunter (#89)
The DNC is probably trying to figure out how they got upstaged with the "Trump plan." They probably see Trump in the race as a master stroke of RNC strategery:)
#94. To: TooConservative (#92)
You know they're trying to script up ways to tar the entire GOP with Trump.
#97. To: Pericles (#94)
Is Trump the tar on the GOP or is the GOP the tar on Trump?
#100. To: TooConservative (#97)
I think Trump is actually pretty naive about America generally, probably the worst in either field. Donald Trump's life is all about excluding the 99% entirely.
#103. To: Pericles (#100)
Most party supporters kind of know this. Why? 8 years of Clinton prosperity in contrast to what went on in the Bush 8 years showed - at least subliminally - many Republicans probably had their political "faith" shaken by what happened.
#107. To: Excalibur (#103)
When Clinton was President the economy was still running on Reagans fumes left in the gas tank. By the time Bush became President the Clinton Stench was already taking hold.
#142. To: Pericles, Excalibur, liberator, GarySpFc, CZ82, tomder55, TooConservative (#107)
In any case, Clinton era economy showed that raising taxes has zero effect on an economy. Gingrich and most Republicans screamed that the raising of taxes would tank the economy and that did not happen. Bush came in and cut taxes and the economy sank regardless.
#145. To: redleghunter, Excalibur, liberator, GarySpFc, CZ82, tomder55, TooConservative, Vicomte13 (#142)
"'The tax increase will kill jobs and lead to a recession, and the recession will force people out of work and onto unemployment, and actually increase the deficit.' That’s Newt Gingrich in 1993 on the Clinton tax increase."
#154. To: Pericles (#145)
This prediction did not happen. Clearly the economic theory failed to meet the prediction.
#156. To: redleghunter (#154)
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Also check the time line. Was Newt House speaker in 93? What happened in 94 after the tax increases?
#157. To: Pericles, Vicomte13, redleghunter (#156)
Conservative Twitter Split Over Carly Fiorina’s Support for Megyn Kelly
Carly Fiorina took to Twitter to express her displeasure with Donald Trump‘s post-debate comments about Megyn Kelly‘s incessant “bleeding” on Friday night. Specifically, she said Trump had no excuse, and that she would “stand with Megyn Kelly.” Many across the political spectrum have voiced their support for both Fiorina and Kelly. However, the annals of conservative social media are visibly split on the matter.
#168. To: TooConservative (#157)
#203. To: A K A Stone (#168)
Among those who agree with Cohen about the tenor of questioning is … Trump nemesis Lindsey Graham? Huh?
#210. To: nolu chan (#203)
“At the end of the day, ask the man a question that explains his position and his solutions rather than a ten-minute question that describes him as the biggest bastard on the planet,” Graham quipped.
#212. To: TooConservative (#210)
It's nonsense. Trump doesn't even have a campaign now that Roger Stone has left him.
#213. To: A K A Stone (#212)
#215. To: TooConservative (#213)
And after Trump flames out
#216. To: A K A Stone (#215)
You've cried wolf to many times to be taken seriously.
#217. To: TooConservative (#216)
I'm patient. Teh Donald already has (or soon will) pull the pin and then jump on his own grenade.
#218. To: A K A Stone (#217)
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It really is that simple. I like him. I like his F U attitude towards as assholes.
#219. To: buckeroo (#218)
Trump is an arrogant snob. He would otherwise be cleaning latrines in some business sector building if it wasn't for his daddy.
#221. To: A K A Stone (#219)
He did have a good father. Who taught him well. So well that he surpassed his father father.
#222. To: TooConservative (#221)
gave him a rundown slum property
#226. To: A K A Stone (#222)
Tell me about 5 of the houses he rented out. Tell me for how much and I want pictures of the houses and the insides. Otherwise you are just lying again.
#230. To: TooConservative, nolu chan (#226)
#236. To: A K A Stone, TooConservative (#230)
Trump began his career at his father's real estate company, Elizabeth Trump and Son, which focused on middle-class rental housing in Brooklyn, Queens, and Staten Island. One of Trump's first projects, while he was still in college, was the revitalization of the foreclosed Swifton Village apartment complex in Cincinnati, Ohio, which his father had purchased for $5.7 million in 1962. The Trumps became involved in the project and with a $500,000 investment, turned the 1,200-unit complex with a 66 percent vacancy rate to 100 percent occupancy within two years. In 1972, the Trump Organization sold Swifton Village for $6.75 million. Donald's involvement with the project was to perform some landscaping and menial labor.
In 1920 at age 15, Trump went into the real estate development and construction business, forming Elizabeth Trump & Son Co. with his mother, who was an active partner, writing the checks. Their success allowed him to send his younger brother John George Trump (1907-1985) to Brooklyn Polytechnic Institute, then to Columbia University for his master's, and to Massachusetts Institute of Technology for his Ph.D. After attempting to work together, building a couple of houses together, John switched to electrical engineering, going on to partner with Robert J. Van de Graaff and build one of the first million-volt X-ray generators.
#279. To: nolu chan, A K A Stone, TooConservative, sneakypete (#236)
In 1971, [Donald] Trump moved to Manhattan and became involved in larger building projects and used attractive architectural design to win public recognition. He made plans to acquire and develop the old Penn Central for $60 million with no money down. Later, with the help of a 40-year tax abatement from the New York City government, he turned the bankrupt Commodore Hotel into the Grand Hyatt and created The Trump Organization.
#285. To: Liberator (#279)
A bit different than how Hitlery's fortune was made; OR, the Kenyan in Chief. Or the Bushes. OR the entire elite political class.
#288. To: sneakypete (#285)
No,identical. It was all made from making deals with the government for tax breaks and low or no interest loans. You even point that out yourself in the quote.
#289. To: Liberator (#288)
Because I'm obvious not shorting, sniffing, popping, guzzling whatever *you're* on.
Replies to Comment # 289.
#328. To: sneakypete, Liberator (#289)
Or maybe you think NYC gives 40 YEAR tax exemptions to everyone building rental housing?
The Commodore Hotel, right next door to Grand Central Station, is still there, although you’d never recognize it today. The black glass Grand Hyatt New York is actually the Commodore, rebuilt by Donald Trump.
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