Earlier this evening, CNNs Don Lemon interviewed Donald Trump about the debate on Fox News Channel last night, and set off another Trump-related tempest. After noting that Kelly pushed Trump during the debate, and that she pushed a lot of people besides Trump, Lemon asked, What is it with you and Megyn Kelly? Trumps reply was, er colorful, to say the least [emphasis mine]:
TRUMP: Well, I just dont respect her as a journalist, I have no respect for her. I dont think shes very good, I think shes highly overrated. But when I came out there, you know what am I doing? Im not getting paid for this. I go out there, and they start saying this stuff [garbled]. But you know, I didnt know thered be 24 million people. I knew it was going to be a big crowd because I get crowds, I get ratings. They call me the ratings machine. So I have, you know, she gets out and she starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions, and you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever. But in my opinion, she was off base.
Kelly did ask Trump tough questions in last nights debate, but she asked tough questions of Marco Rubio on abortion too, and of other candidates on stage as well. As the front-runner, Trump should have expected tough questions, especially given his track record of supporting nearly every progressive idea at one time or another, including Hillary Clinton being President. Kelly also asked Trump about his remarks about women, which appears to have particularly rankled him and pushed him into validating Kellys premise in asking those questions in the first place. After all, its not often when a major party candidate takes a shot at a woman by reminding everyone of her menstrual cycle. Im certain that will really impress women about their place in the Republican Party.
Trump was scheduled to speak at the Red State Gathering tomorrow, in the final slot at the event. Not long after these remarks, event organizer Erick Erickson announced that he had withdrawn the invitation:
I have rescinded my invitation to Mr.Trump. While I have tried to give him great latitude, his remark about Megyn Kelly was a bridge too far
That will undoubtedly anger some Trump supporters, but after last nights debate performance and his thin-skinned whining afterward, I wonder if that group wasnt already in decline. This might fire up the die-hard Trump troops, but suggesting that a journalist went after his target-rich record only because she was menstruating should be a disqualifier for most voters. Its vastly worse than anything Todd Akin said, and will almost certainly have media outlets demanding responses from the other Republican candidates. Its practically tailor-made for Democrats to hoist up the Republican War On Women banner, especially Hillary Clinton.
Get ready for plenty of Team Trump dog-in-the-manger, sour-grapes quotes in the morning, if not overnight. There may be some legitimate anger among a small group of RSG15 attendees tomorrow who wanted to see Trump at this event, but Erick has a solid case for not wanting to have this overshadow the event tomorrow, with more presidential candidates on hand to make their pitches. Erick will almost certainly address this in the morning, and well see what the fallout is over the rest of the day.
Update: Carly Fiorina appears to be the first Republican candidate to respond to Trumps remarks, perhaps fittingly so (via Twitchy):
Thats interesting, because Fiorina actually deflected a Trump question at her presser today at RSG15 by asking why the media wasnt calling out Obama for his offensive comments about opponents of the Iran deal. Not this time, apparently.
But I also think that while Mr. Trump resonates with a lot of people with his bluntness, including me to a degree, there are just real lines of decency a person running for President should not trust.
His comment was inappropriate. It is unfortunate to have to disinvite him. But I just dont want someone on stage who gets a hostile question from a lady and his first inclination is to imply it was hormonal. It just was wrong.
I have invited Megyn Kelly to attend in Donald Trumps place tomorrow night.
Well, that would be interesting. Well see if she can swing that.
Trump doesn't even have a campaign now that Roger Stone has left him.
Is THAT the new meme already?
Suddenly ALL those who support and will support President Trump will now fret and abandon him? OH MY!! Trump is in trouble!! His campaign is in tatters and dysfunctional, unable to carry on in a forceful way!! Lol -- seriously...
Trump will merely audition and hire THE best consultants and be even MORE dangerous to the GOPe cartel. If there's anything you can be sure Donald Trump does MUCH better than any one else out in this field, it's creating a focused, winning team. This is a man whose reputation and honor is on the line. With no sugar daddies to worry about, no lobbyist whores to pay, no political feelings and "good friends on the other side of the aisle" to hurt, the GOPe has good reason to fear him. He'll go for the throat -- unlike ANY one else in the field.
The propagandist media -- in the employ of BOTH the Dems AND GOPe will have to works twice as hard to demonize him and dismiss his creds. Gonna be a bloody campaign.
It's nonsense. Trump doesn't even have a campaign now that Roger Stone has left him.
At this stage, no one can rationally deny that Trump not only has a campaign, he is leading by double digits, and the GOPe candidates are all in single digits.
You Trumpsters, following Teh Donald's lead, have made Megyn Kelly the litmus test.
"Trumpsters"?? LOL
You've got it backwards; The media and Megyn Kelly have been exposed as being shills for the Establishment Republican cartel, AND having TRIED to play the public for fools. It is THEY who have failed a litmus test of credibility.
Trump has lost all his media contracts and his Trump ties deal with Macy's and other connections he had developed over the years. He probably feels he has nothing left to lose now.
Macy's? One more dead and dying brick and mortar corpse.
Down and out and going for broke? Trump?? DOES he really feel as if he's got nothing left to lose?? Chyeah -- I could see that. After all his assets are only around $10 billion. And everyone has abandoned him. Oh wait -- you're...serious?? Oh, ok.
MEMO: The dynamo Donald Trump is his own "media." His own brand. He's STILL kicking azz in the polls. People not normally interested in politics now ARE. Because of Donald Trump. He was the SOLE reason FOX News' narcissists drew 24 million to a debate that normally draws 3 million. With Trump's contacts, assets, and friend (no, not EVERYONE underestimates or opposes Donald Trump for the fake "War on Women" meme) he will remain VERY much alive and THE main talk about town.
Bummer, eh?
I haven't found out if Kelly took Trump's spot at RSG (which I doubted) or who they did get to make the big Saturday evening keynote address for them after they disinvited Trump.
Kelly is in a LOSE-LOSE situation whether she shows up or doesn't. Her rep is dashed and smashed. She played personal, and she played whore to the GOPe. RSG and Erickson are also in LOSE-LOSE position; They look petty, cowardly, vindictive, and spiteful -- just like Megyn Kelly. Just like the GOPe.
The damage to the cred of these parties can not be undone. Proven to most people who've followed this ongoing joke is that the media and political parties (the GOPe) are dishonest brokers of the truth while also proving without any doubt that they COLLUDE and CONSPIRE to sabotage certain candidates. And NOW the serfs know.
At this stage, no one can rationally deny that Trump not only has a campaign, he is leading by double digits, and the GOPe candidates are all in single digits.
Scientific Poll, NBC/Survey Monkey, August 7-8, ± 3.4%
In comparison to other Republicans in California, her Senate election result was not all that bad. There are few Republican success stories in California.
It appears that once again, predictions of his political death have been premature.
It is not just that Trump is in first, but Cruz and Carson are in second and third, and they are the only ones in double figures. The people are giving the middle finger to the GOPe. Freezing The Donald out on Saturday should give him another few points.
It appears that once again, predictions of his political death have been premature.
It is not just that Trump is in first, but Cruz and Carson are in second and third, and they are the only ones in double figures. The people are giving the middle finger to the GOPe. Freezing The Donald out on Saturday should give him another few points.
Polls don't mean "diddly-squat" in this country, chan. That was a silly comment. The nation tightens the political field just a day before an election not a year and half before an election.
Polls don't determine the mood of the people. People deermine the mood of the polls and as a result you can't make a meaningful estimate of any results about a "poll" other than some exilerating thrill, like "a tingling down your leg" comment.
She apparently passed the audition with flying colors when she lectured the "Neanderthal" Trump while siding with innocent, delicate flower, Megyn Kelly.
Nah, she passed her audition months ago when she went after Hillary. She is the GOPe designated hitter because she can do it without the party being labeled as sexist. She would be a good fit for the GOPe ticket's VP attack dog slot.
Polls don't mean "diddly-squat" in this country, chan. That was a silly comment. The nation tightens the political field just a day before an election not a year and half before an election.
You are in the wrong election cycle. This is the cycle for the primary elections.
Scientific Poll, NBC/Survey Monkey, August 7-8, ± 3.4%
Yeah, Survey Monkey sounds like a real top outfit. /sarcasm
I also recall the complete failure of polling in both the British and Israeli elections in the last year.
We really should not take polls at face value. Even Nate Silver is admitting there are fundamental problems with measuring public opinion in modern polling. Including the obvious fact that people deliberately lie to pollsters sometimes (but not all the time). Maddening.
She is the GOPe designated hitter because she can do it without the party being labeled as sexist. She would be a good fit for the GOPe ticket's VP attack dog slot.
If the nominee is Kasich, she'd be a good pick. Or Rubio to help in FL.
If the nominee was Walker, Kasich to bring OH or Rubio to court FL.
She has a chance at the VP nod if they think her role as attack dog on Hillary! is more valuable in key states than Kasich bringing OH or Rubio bringing FL would be.
I kinda assume the nominee will be either Bush or Walker. So you start looking at needing to bring along key states because of the electoral map advantage that the Dims have had with Obama (240+ EC votes, at least 40 more than the GOP).
After all his assets are only around $10 billion. And everyone has abandoned him. Oh wait -- you're...serious?? Oh, ok.
MEMO: The dynamo Donald Trump is his own "media." His own brand. He's STILL kicking azz in the polls. People not normally interested in politics now ARE. Because of Donald Trump. He was the SOLE reason FOX News' narcissists drew 24 million to a debate that normally draws 3 million.
Forbes says an honest assessment is more like half of that, about $5 billion. And his liquid assets appear in the range of $300M. Other reporting is to take Trump's 10 billion, cut it in half, then cut in quarters; IOW more like 1.2-2 billion. But that is if he actually liquidated his holdings. And any liquidation would likely drive down the value of his other assets. Any selloff of a major fortune or even large holdings of valuable stocks works this way when you liquidate them in a short time frame.
I think Forbes probably has it about right. He made $5 billion in assets after 4 bankruptcies.
Because of Donald Trump. He was the SOLE reason FOX News' narcissists drew 24 million to a debate that normally draws 3 million.
Even the 5pm debate of the GOP junior varsity drew 6 million, I read. So the main event, with or without Trump, would have drawn double that, considering the high level of interest in the GOP primaries. Even Obama encouraged Dems to watch it.
I saw Trump trying to pretend to CNN's Tapper today that they wouldn't have gotten 2 million without him. What an arrogant blowhard.
Well, he does have that 10B in assets and Melania, and he is crushing in the polls.
Yeah, just like Giuliani and Hitlery were back in 2007.
And do you recall the Second Coming of Fred Thompson, our Lord and savior, also in 2007? Bet he wishes he had his L&O gig back.
Trump doesn't have the nomination yet. In fact, there is considerable history of the big early frontrunner totally imploding or losing to somebody that no one expected to get anywhere close to the nomination. It's how the voters seem to punish their early favorite.
It slays me that Trump gets to 26% in a few wacky polls and his supporters think it's time to just give him the nomination by acclaim. It's creepy, like the Hitlery supporters in the Dim party.
I don't even doubt that her PTB-GOPe handlers believe they've found their new "star." She apparently passed the audition with flying colors when she lectured the "Neanderthal" Trump while siding with innocent, delicate flower, Megyn Kelly.
Ok,you are a Trump fan. We get it.
As The Donald so modestly says,those of us who disagree with his pompous proclamations are "losers".
A title I proudly wear when bestowed by that gasbag Dim.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
You Trumpsters, following Teh Donald's lead, have made Megyn Kelly the litmus test.
We'll see how that works out for you.
Not going to wear well when The Donald sees he can't win,so he bows out of the race "because they are all losers,and I don't want to be associated with losers",and then throws his support behind the Dim candidate.
Seems to me like lot of people are going to have lots of trouble looking into the mirror the morning after that happens. Face it,this shithead is Perot without the charm,intelligence,and business experience. He is nothing but a typical spoiled and pampered NYC trust fund denizen that inherited over $200 million in cash as well as 15,000 rental properties in NYC,and thinks that makes him smart and a "winner".
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Suddenly ALL those who support and will support President Trump
PRESIDENT Trump??????
Did I miss the election?
Let me ask you this,do you REALLY think a power mad control freak like Trump will turn all his business dealings over to be managed by a blind trust for 4 years if he is elected?
If your honest answer is an unreserved "Yes",it is a waste of time to try to talk reason with you.
Trump will merely audition and hire THE best consultants ...
Who will by be definition,since he is the smartest man in the world according to him,consultants that just happen to agree with him.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Let me ask you this,do you REALLY think a power mad control freak like Trump will turn all his business dealings over to be managed by a blind trust for 4 years if he is elected?
Very astute question petey. I hadn't thought of that.
Not really. A financial magazine a couple of weeks ago put his actual net assets at between 2 and 3 billion.
Nothing to sneeze at for sure,but Trump is the only one claiming 10 billion,and he does that by tricks like claiming his name alone (Brand/Trademark) is worth $4 billion.
The Donald can't move his lips without lying. He is such a narcissist that he makes Bill Clinton look shy and modest by comparison.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I also recall the complete failure of polling in both the British and Israeli elections in the last year.
Why is this a surprise to anyone? Polling companies are like any other companies in business. They want to remain in business and profit,and the way to do this is to please the people that hire them by telling them what they want to hear.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
She has a chance at the VP nod if they think her role as attack dog on Hillary!
That's assuming the Dims don't find a subtle way of knocking Bubbette! out of the race before the primaries.
They MIGHT go with Biden because they proved with Goober Gore that a candidate that is an actual idiot doesn't bother them,but I suspect they are looking for somebody smarter than a tomato plant,but that can still be trusted.
I honestly can't even guess who it would be at this point,but it seems pretty clear to me the movers and shakers in the Dim Party want to dump Bubbette!
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Face it,this shithead is Perot without the charm,intelligence,and business experience.
It's possible. But he has an insatiable need for public validation of him as a great man. He is more emotionally needy than most puppies. It could just be that his personality is driven to do this, now, finally, before it's too late. He's already pretty old so this is his last chance to make some big public splash.
You really don't have a clue or any solutions. You just whine a lot.
He acts a lot lot like Yukon; spamming the same kind of crap. It must have been easy for him to guess Yukon's password since they have such similar patterns of thought.
Forbes says an honest assessment is more like half of that, about $5 billion.
Have you ever noticed that every one of the rabid Trump supporters always mention the "he's worth $10 Billion!" mantra,just like it means something valuable?
If anything it means the reverse because unlike Perot who earned his way to the Billionaire neighborhood,Trump was a shelted and protected trust fund child from multi-millionaire familIes in NYC and has never accomplished anything on his own in his entire life. He inherited over $200 million back in a time when that would probably be worth the equivalent of $2 billion today,plus 15,000 pieces of rental property in NYC.
He not only doesn't know anything about the lives of the working lower classes or the managing middle classes,he doesn't even care about them because they are "losers" that weren't smart enough to inherit mega-wealth like him.
In his entire life all he has accomplished is buying existing companies,putting his name on them,and then driving them into bankruptcy while skipping away with the investors money. He has not created one single job other than in tax accounting. All he has done is destroy companines,life savings,and end jobs for the working class.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Trump doesn't have the nomination yet. In fact, there is considerable history of the big early frontrunner totally imploding or losing to somebody that no one expected to get anywhere close to the nomination.
The INSTANT he begins to suspect he's not going to win the nomination he is going to drop out and claim he is quitting because "The Republicans are all losers,and I don't want to be associated with losers."
He is a spoiled child in an adult's body.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Very astute question petey. I hadn't thought of that.
Thanks. It's the first thing I thought of because it is who he is.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
In his entire life all he has accomplished is buying existing companies,putting his name on them,and then driving them into bankruptcy while skipping away with the investors money.
He has built some but not terribly successfully.
He's bet big, lost big and, due to bankruptcy laws, managed to accumulate billions from a decent fortune he inherited. Like Romney, Trump was born on third base and hit a home run. But Romney never went bankrupt or anywhere close to it.
I had reservations about Romney but, financially, he was pretty responsible. Especially compared to a Trump.
Trump will merely audition and hire THE best consultants ...
He could start with a new coiffure sylist.
Not going to happen. This is "The Donald" you are speaking of. His massive ego tells him that people make fun of his hair because they are jealous of it because it is the perfect style and only "losers" wouldn't want to have hair like that if they could.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Trump's father was one of the biggest slumlords in NYC. As a major real estate mogul, he wielded substantial political power as well.
A whore for JEB like you has business preaching about someone else ancestors. JEB's bankster grandfather helped to finance the Nazi party. This was the kind of housing that resulted.
The INSTANT he begins to suspect he's not going to win the nomination he is going to drop out and claim he is quitting because "The Republicans are all losers,and I don't want to be associated with losers."
What will happen when he realizes he won't win any primaries and will be humiliated.
At that point it will be "Screw you guys, I'm going home". Or to pull a Perot for his own petty vengeance (or to cut sweet deals with Xlinton allies in NYC).
Recall Warren Buffet and how his public pleas to "please raise my income taxes that I never pay and will never pay" and suddenly Buffet's BN railway has another decade of transcontinental oil transport contracts with no competition from some nasty Keystone Pipeline. Very lucrative for old Warren.
But he has an insatiable need for public validation of him as a great man. He is more emotionally needy than most puppies. It could just be that his personality is driven to do this, now, finally, before it's too late. He's already pretty old so this is his last chance to make some big public splash.
No doubt about you being right about all that,and I took all that into consideration and balanced it against his fear of public failure and humiliation for failing,and don't think there is a chance of him risking that embarrassment. Don't forget,his who sense of self is built around the illusion of success,intelligence,and always winning. Being a "winner" is as important to him as oxygen.
He's going to bail the very instant it looks like he's not going to win or the public start to turn on him because the one thing he can't stand is to be thought of as a loser. "Losers" are other people,people who disagree with him because HE is ALWAYS a "winner".
He's more insecure than the typical 13 year old girl.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Being a "winner" is as important to him as oxygen.
His need for validation is almost pathological. In part, he is self-promoting but it's much more than that. He wants to feel the nation loves him personally, as a human being. He craves it.
It's kind of rare but a small number of people have light flyaway hair even into old age. Donald compensates by using more hairspray than most drag queens go through in a month. And it doesn't always work.
Thanks for doing the dirty work again, Chan -- research.
Good stuff. Trump's dad was quite the entrepreneur. His was also the type background that a son could look back on with pride of and for his family. That translates into an appreciation of America at its middle class roots:
The Trumps became involved in the project and with a $500,000 investment, turned the 1,200-unit complex with a 66 percent vacancy rate to 100 percent occupancy within two years. In 1972, the Trump Organization sold Swifton Village for $6.75 million. Donald's involvement with the project was to perform some landscaping and menial labor.
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In 1971, [Donald] Trump moved to Manhattan and became involved in larger building projects and used attractive architectural design to win public recognition. He made plans to acquire and develop the old Penn Central for $60 million with no money down. Later, with the help of a 40-year tax abatement from the New York City government, he turned the bankrupt Commodore Hotel into the Grand Hyatt and created The Trump Organization.
A bit different than how Hitlery's fortune was made; OR, the Kenyan in Chief. Or the Bushes. OR the entire elite political class.