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Title: Trump out at #RSG15; Update: Fiorina to Trump: “There. Is. No. Excuse.”
Source: HotAir
URL Source: http://hotair.com/archives/2015/08/07/breaking-trump-out-at-rsg15/
Published: Aug 7, 2015
Author: Ed Morrissey
Post Date: 2015-08-08 10:22:08 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 95079
Comments: 479

Earlier this evening, CNN’s Don Lemon interviewed Donald Trump about the debate on Fox News Channel last night, and set off another Trump-related tempest. After noting that Kelly pushed Trump during the debate, and that she “pushed a lot of people” besides Trump, Lemon asked, “What is it with you and Megyn Kelly?” Trump’s reply was, er … colorful, to say the least [emphasis mine]:

TRUMP: Well, I just don’t respect her as a journalist, I have no respect for her. I don’t think she’s very good, I think she’s highly overrated. But when I came out there, you know — what am I doing? I’m not getting paid for this. I go out there, and they start saying this stuff [garbled]. But you know, I didn’t know there’d be 24 million people. I knew it was going to be a big crowd because I get crowds, I get ratings. They call me the ratings machine. So I have, you know, she gets out and she starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions, and you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her … wherever. But in my opinion, she was off base.

Kelly did ask Trump tough questions in last night’s debate, but she asked tough questions of Marco Rubio on abortion too, and of other candidates on stage as well. As the front-runner, Trump should have expected tough questions, especially given his track record of supporting nearly every progressive idea at one time or another, including Hillary Clinton being President.  Kelly also asked Trump about his remarks about women, which appears to have particularly rankled him — and pushed him into validating Kelly’s premise in asking those questions in the first place. After all, it’s not often when a major party candidate takes a shot at a woman by reminding everyone of her menstrual cycle. I’m certain that will really impress women about their place in the Republican Party.

Trump was scheduled to speak at the Red State Gathering tomorrow, in the final slot at the event. Not long after these remarks, event organizer Erick Erickson announced that he had withdrawn the invitation:

That will undoubtedly anger some Trump supporters, but after last night’s debate performance and his thin-skinned whining afterward, I wonder if that group wasn’t already in decline. This might fire up the die-hard Trump troops, but suggesting that a journalist went after his target-rich record only because she was menstruating should be a disqualifier for most voters. It’s vastly worse than anything Todd Akin said, and will almost certainly have media outlets demanding responses from the other Republican candidates. It’s practically tailor-made for Democrats to hoist up the Republican War On Women banner, especially Hillary Clinton.

Get ready for plenty of Team Trump dog-in-the-manger, sour-grapes quotes in the morning, if not overnight. There may be some legitimate anger among a small group of RSG15 attendees tomorrow who wanted to see Trump at this event, but Erick has a solid case for not wanting to have this overshadow the event tomorrow, with more presidential candidates on hand to make their pitches. Erick will almost certainly address this in the morning, and we’ll see what the fallout is over the rest of the day.

Update: Carly Fiorina appears to be the first Republican candidate to respond to Trump’s remarks, perhaps fittingly so (via Twitchy):

That’s interesting, because Fiorina actually deflected a Trump question at her presser today at RSG15 by asking why the media wasn’t calling out Obama for his offensive comments about opponents of the Iran deal. Not this time, apparently.

Update: Erick has an explanation up at RedState:

But I also think that while Mr. Trump resonates with a lot of people with his bluntness, including me to a degree, there are just real lines of decency a person running for President should not trust.

His comment was inappropriate. It is unfortunate to have to disinvite him. But I just don’t want someone on stage who gets a hostile question from a lady and his first inclination is to imply it was hormonal. It just was wrong.

I have invited Megyn Kelly to attend in Donald Trump’s place tomorrow night.

Well, that would be interesting. We’ll see if she can swing that.

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#232. To: buckeroo (#231)

All he can influence are "silly little wipers of other people' bottoms," to quote Monty Python.

I'm surprised that so many lower middle class folks fall for his PT Barnum act; Stone included.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-08-09   11:06:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#233. To: Fred Mertz (#232)

I'm surprised that so many lower middle class folks fall for his PT Barnum act; Stone included.

Let me ask you a serious question, Fred. Did you see anyone on that stage or any political stage that captures the idea of "leadership" that can mend this broken nation?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-08-09   11:17:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#234. To: buckeroo (#233)

Unfortunately, no. A handful might fill the role of figure head, but not a true leader IMO.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-08-09   11:20:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#235. To: Fred Mertz (#234)

Unfortunately, no. A handful might fill the role of figure head, but not a true leader IMO.

EXACTLY!

The nation has lost vision about its own leadership to drive the nation. Why? As an opinion because America is on a downward spiral of neglect not just by so-called leaders and potential leaders BECAUSE we are not leading ourselves as was envisioned by the founders of this nation. The nation was built upon individual determinism; not washed down high-lighted hair by a Trump or ruby red lipstick by a Kelly.

The nation's electoral process is a mess because just about any tom, dick or harry can pretend to be a leader in this political atmosphere but the people don't even know what a leader is is ... so how can they vote for a true leader? The place is FUCKED UPPED.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-08-09   11:31:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#236. To: A K A Stone, TooConservative (#230)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump

Donald Trump

[excerpt - citations omitted]

Trump began his career at his father's real estate company, Elizabeth Trump and Son, which focused on middle-class rental housing in Brooklyn, Queens, and Staten Island. One of Trump's first projects, while he was still in college, was the revitalization of the foreclosed Swifton Village apartment complex in Cincinnati, Ohio, which his father had purchased for $5.7 million in 1962. The Trumps became involved in the project and with a $500,000 investment, turned the 1,200-unit complex with a 66 percent vacancy rate to 100 percent occupancy within two years. In 1972, the Trump Organization sold Swifton Village for $6.75 million. Donald's involvement with the project was to perform some landscaping and menial labor.

In 1971, Trump moved to Manhattan and became involved in larger building projects and used attractive architectural design to win public recognition. He made plans to acquire and develop the old Penn Central for $60 million with no money down. Later, with the help of a 40-year tax abatement from the New York City government, he turned the bankrupt Commodore Hotel into the Grand Hyatt and created The Trump Organization.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Trump

Fred Trump

[excerpt - citations omitted]

In 1920 at age 15, Trump went into the real estate development and construction business, forming Elizabeth Trump & Son Co. with his mother, who was an active partner, writing the checks. Their success allowed him to send his younger brother John George Trump (1907-1985) to Brooklyn Polytechnic Institute, then to Columbia University for his master's, and to Massachusetts Institute of Technology for his Ph.D. After attempting to work together, building a couple of houses together, John switched to electrical engineering, going on to partner with Robert J. Van de Graaff and build one of the first million-volt X-ray generators.

In the late 1920s, Trump began building single-family houses in Queens, which were sold for $3,990 each. By the mid-1930s in the middle of the Great Depression, he helped pioneer the concept of supermarkets with the Trump Market in Woodhaven, which advertised "Serve Yourself and Save!", becoming an instant hit. After only a year Trump sold it for a tidy profit to the King Kullen supermarket chain.

During World War II, Trump built barracks and garden apartments for U.S. Navy personnel near major shipyards along the East Coast, including Chester, Pennsylvania, Newport News, Virginia, and Norfolk, Virginia. After the war he expanded into middle-income housing for the families of returning veterans, building Shore Haven in Bensonhurst in 1949, and Beach Haven near Coney Island in 1950 (a total of 2,700 apartments). In 1963 he built the 3,800-apartment Trump Village in Coney Island, competing with Lefrak City in Queens.

Trump went on to build and operate affordable rental housing via large apartment complexes in New York City, including more than 27,000 low-income multifamily apartments and row houses in the neighborhoods of Coney Island, Bensonhurst, Sheepshead Bay, Flatbush, and Brighton Beach in Brooklyn, and Flushing and Jamaica Estates in Queens. In 1968 his 22-year-old son Donald Trump joined his company Trump Management Co., becoming president in 1974, and renaming it The Trump Organization in 1980. In the mid-1970s he lent his son money, allowing him to go into the real estate business in Manhattan, while he stuck to Brooklyn and Queens. "It was good for me," he later commented. "You know, being the son of somebody, it could have been competition to me. This way, I got Manhattan all to myself."

Although a self-made millionaire, Trump was known for his frugality, saving unused nails, doing his own extermination work and mixing his own floor cleaners. Nevertheless, he insisted on buying a new Navy Cadillac every three years, with license plate "FCT". By the time of his death, Trump was estimated to have amassed a fortune worth $250 to $300 million.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-08-09   12:00:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#237. To: rlk, sneakypete (#188)

(Where's she [Fiorina] been all this time?)

Taking additional acting lessons. She's starting out her new acting talents with a new script in a role that offers her the opportunity to portray herself as president.

Exactly. Carly Fiorina is ACTING.

GOPe's Hollywood Central called her in for a total "Make-Over." All she had to do they presumed was attend GOPe finishing-school to address her former looks, script, and role.

I don't even doubt that her PTB-GOPe handlers believe they've found their new "star." She apparently passed the audition with flying colors when she lectured the "Neanderthal" Trump while siding with innocent, delicate flower, Megyn Kelly. Ergo Fiorina's feminist bonafides were reinforced and established in this fake "war against women." Best of all -- now (phew!!) the GOP has a woman in their race, proving that it's not the establishment Republicans that hate women -- only the kooky, newbie conservative wing.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-09   12:04:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#238. To: Liberator (#237)

Best of all -- now (phew!!) the GOP has a woman in their race, proving that it's not the establishment Republicans that hate women -- only the kooky, newbie conservative wing.

You Trumpsters, following Teh Donald's lead, have made Megyn Kelly the litmus test.

We'll see how that works out for you.

Trump has lost all his media contracts and his Trump ties deal with Macy's and other connections he had developed over the years. He probably feels he has nothing left to lose now.

I haven't found out if Kelly took Trump's spot at RSG (which I doubted) or who they did get to make the big Saturday evening keynote address for them after they disinvited Trump.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-09   12:19:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#239. To: TooConservative (#210)

Trump doesn't even have a campaign now that Roger Stone has left him.

Is THAT the new meme already?

Suddenly ALL those who support and will support President Trump will now fret and abandon him? OH MY!! Trump is in trouble!! His campaign is in tatters and dysfunctional, unable to carry on in a forceful way!! Lol -- seriously...

Trump will merely audition and hire THE best consultants and be even MORE dangerous to the GOPe cartel. If there's anything you can be sure Donald Trump does MUCH better than any one else out in this field, it's creating a focused, winning team. This is a man whose reputation and honor is on the line. With no sugar daddies to worry about, no lobbyist whores to pay, no political feelings and "good friends on the other side of the aisle" to hurt, the GOPe has good reason to fear him. He'll go for the throat -- unlike ANY one else in the field.

The propagandist media -- in the employ of BOTH the Dems AND GOPe will have to works twice as hard to demonize him and dismiss his creds. Gonna be a bloody campaign.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-09   12:21:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#240. To: TooConservative (#210)

It's nonsense. Trump doesn't even have a campaign now that Roger Stone has left him.

At this stage, no one can rationally deny that Trump not only has a campaign, he is leading by double digits, and the GOPe candidates are all in single digits.

http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=41244

Scientific Poll, NBC/Survey Monkey, August 7-8, ± 3.4%

Trump 23%, Cruz 13%, Carson 11%, Fiorina 8%, Rubio 8%

Bush, Walker, Paul, Huckabee, Kasich, Perry, Christie, and all others trail behind that top five.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-08-09   12:28:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#241. To: TooConservative (#238)

You Trumpsters, following Teh Donald's lead, have made Megyn Kelly the litmus test.

"Trumpsters"?? LOL

You've got it backwards; The media and Megyn Kelly have been exposed as being shills for the Establishment Republican cartel, AND having TRIED to play the public for fools. It is THEY who have failed a litmus test of credibility.

Trump has lost all his media contracts and his Trump ties deal with Macy's and other connections he had developed over the years. He probably feels he has nothing left to lose now.

Macy's? One more dead and dying brick and mortar corpse.

Down and out and going for broke? Trump?? DOES he really feel as if he's got nothing left to lose?? Chyeah -- I could see that. After all his assets are only around $10 billion. And everyone has abandoned him. Oh wait -- you're...serious?? Oh, ok.

MEMO: The dynamo Donald Trump is his own "media." His own brand. He's STILL kicking azz in the polls. People not normally interested in politics now ARE. Because of Donald Trump. He was the SOLE reason FOX News' narcissists drew 24 million to a debate that normally draws 3 million. With Trump's contacts, assets, and friend (no, not EVERYONE underestimates or opposes Donald Trump for the fake "War on Women" meme) he will remain VERY much alive and THE main talk about town.

Bummer, eh?

I haven't found out if Kelly took Trump's spot at RSG (which I doubted) or who they did get to make the big Saturday evening keynote address for them after they disinvited Trump.

Kelly is in a LOSE-LOSE situation whether she shows up or doesn't. Her rep is dashed and smashed. She played personal, and she played whore to the GOPe. RSG and Erickson are also in LOSE-LOSE position; They look petty, cowardly, vindictive, and spiteful -- just like Megyn Kelly. Just like the GOPe.

The damage to the cred of these parties can not be undone. Proven to most people who've followed this ongoing joke is that the media and political parties (the GOPe) are dishonest brokers of the truth while also proving without any doubt that they COLLUDE and CONSPIRE to sabotage certain candidates. And NOW the serfs know.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-09   12:45:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#242. To: nolu chan, TooConservative (#240)

At this stage, no one can rationally deny that Trump not only has a campaign, he is leading by double digits, and the GOPe candidates are all in single digits.

Scientific Poll, NBC/Survey Monkey, August 7-8, ± 3.4%

Trump 23%, Cruz 13%, Carson 11%, Fiorina 8%, Rubio 8%

Ooops.

And notably, Cruz is #2...while Carly (Hollywood FX) Fiorina has risen to 8%. Jeb? Trying to climb out of a crypt.

:-(

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-09   12:48:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#243. To: rlk, Liberator (#188)

Where's she [Fiorina] been all this time?

The People's Democratic Republic of California.

In comparison to other Republicans in California, her Senate election result was not all that bad. There are few Republican success stories in California.

Carly Fiorina won the GPO Sentate primary in 2010 and ran against incumbent Barbara Boxer in 2010, gaining 42% of the vote, Boxer 52%. Fiorina got 4.2M votes in a midterm election for senate.

In 2012, Romney got 37% of the vote in California. Romney got 4.8M votes in a presidential election.

In 2008, McCain got 37% of the vote in California. McCain got 5M in a presidential election.

In 1984, Reagan drew 5.4M in California. (Mondale 3.9M)

In 1988, G.H.W. Bush drew 5M in California. (Dukakis 4.7M)

In 1992, G.H.W. Bush drew 3.6M in California. (Clinton 5.1M)

In 1996, Bob Dole drew 3.8M in California.(Clinton 5.1M)

In 2000, W drew 4.6M in California. (Gore 5.9M)

In 2004, W drew 5.5M in California. (John Kerry 6.7M)

In 2006, Arnold won 4.8M in California for governor (Phil Angelides 3.3M)

nolu chan  posted on  2015-08-09   12:58:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#244. To: TooConservative, Liberator (#238)

He probably feels he has nothing left to lose now.

Well, he does have that 10B in assets and Melania, and he is crushing in the polls.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-08-09   13:00:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#245. To: Liberator (#242)

It appears that once again, predictions of his political death have been premature.

It is not just that Trump is in first, but Cruz and Carson are in second and third, and they are the only ones in double figures. The people are giving the middle finger to the GOPe. Freezing The Donald out on Saturday should give him another few points.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-08-09   13:04:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#246. To: nolu chan (#245)

It appears that once again, predictions of his political death have been premature.

It is not just that Trump is in first, but Cruz and Carson are in second and third, and they are the only ones in double figures. The people are giving the middle finger to the GOPe. Freezing The Donald out on Saturday should give him another few points.

Polls don't mean "diddly-squat" in this country, chan. That was a silly comment. The nation tightens the political field just a day before an election not a year and half before an election.

Polls don't determine the mood of the people. People deermine the mood of the polls and as a result you can't make a meaningful estimate of any results about a "poll" other than some exilerating thrill, like "a tingling down your leg" comment.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-08-09   13:08:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#247. To: Liberator, rlk, sneakypete (#237)

She apparently passed the audition with flying colors when she lectured the "Neanderthal" Trump while siding with innocent, delicate flower, Megyn Kelly.

Nah, she passed her audition months ago when she went after Hillary. She is the GOPe designated hitter because she can do it without the party being labeled as sexist. She would be a good fit for the GOPe ticket's VP attack dog slot.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-08-09   13:11:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#248. To: buckeroo (#246)

Polls don't mean "diddly-squat" in this country, chan. That was a silly comment. The nation tightens the political field just a day before an election not a year and half before an election.

You are in the wrong election cycle. This is the cycle for the primary elections.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-08-09   13:12:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#249. To: nolu chan (#248)

OK, Lindsey Graham and et. al., is a cycle of power today and Über Alles!

buckeroo  posted on  2015-08-09   13:23:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#250. To: Liberator (#242)

Scientific Poll, NBC/Survey Monkey, August 7-8, ± 3.4%

Yeah, Survey Monkey sounds like a real top outfit. ‹/sarcasm

I also recall the complete failure of polling in both the British and Israeli elections in the last year.

We really should not take polls at face value. Even Nate Silver is admitting there are fundamental problems with measuring public opinion in modern polling. Including the obvious fact that people deliberately lie to pollsters sometimes (but not all the time). Maddening.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-09   13:41:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#251. To: nolu chan (#247)

She is the GOPe designated hitter because she can do it without the party being labeled as sexist. She would be a good fit for the GOPe ticket's VP attack dog slot.

If the nominee is Kasich, she'd be a good pick. Or Rubio to help in FL.

If the nominee was Walker, Kasich to bring OH or Rubio to court FL.

She has a chance at the VP nod if they think her role as attack dog on Hillary! is more valuable in key states than Kasich bringing OH or Rubio bringing FL would be.

I kinda assume the nominee will be either Bush or Walker. So you start looking at needing to bring along key states because of the electoral map advantage that the Dims have had with Obama (240+ EC votes, at least 40 more than the GOP).

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-09   13:46:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#252. To: Liberator (#241)

After all his assets are only around $10 billion. And everyone has abandoned him. Oh wait -- you're...serious?? Oh, ok.

MEMO: The dynamo Donald Trump is his own "media." His own brand. He's STILL kicking azz in the polls. People not normally interested in politics now ARE. Because of Donald Trump. He was the SOLE reason FOX News' narcissists drew 24 million to a debate that normally draws 3 million.

Forbes says an honest assessment is more like half of that, about $5 billion. And his liquid assets appear in the range of $300M. Other reporting is to take Trump's 10 billion, cut it in half, then cut in quarters; IOW more like 1.2-2 billion. But that is if he actually liquidated his holdings. And any liquidation would likely drive down the value of his other assets. Any selloff of a major fortune or even large holdings of valuable stocks works this way when you liquidate them in a short time frame.

I think Forbes probably has it about right. He made $5 billion in assets after 4 bankruptcies.

Because of Donald Trump. He was the SOLE reason FOX News' narcissists drew 24 million to a debate that normally draws 3 million.

Even the 5pm debate of the GOP junior varsity drew 6 million, I read. So the main event, with or without Trump, would have drawn double that, considering the high level of interest in the GOP primaries. Even Obama encouraged Dems to watch it.

I saw Trump trying to pretend to CNN's Tapper today that they wouldn't have gotten 2 million without him. What an arrogant blowhard.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-09   13:54:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#253. To: nolu chan (#244)

Well, he does have that 10B in assets and Melania, and he is crushing in the polls.

Yeah, just like Giuliani and Hitlery were back in 2007.

And do you recall the Second Coming of Fred Thompson, our Lord and savior, also in 2007? Bet he wishes he had his L&O gig back.

Trump doesn't have the nomination yet. In fact, there is considerable history of the big early frontrunner totally imploding or losing to somebody that no one expected to get anywhere close to the nomination. It's how the voters seem to punish their early favorite.

It slays me that Trump gets to 26% in a few wacky polls and his supporters think it's time to just give him the nomination by acclaim. It's creepy, like the Hitlery supporters in the Dim party.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-09   14:00:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#254. To: Liberator (#237) (Edited)

I don't even doubt that her PTB-GOPe handlers believe they've found their new "star." She apparently passed the audition with flying colors when she lectured the "Neanderthal" Trump while siding with innocent, delicate flower, Megyn Kelly.

Ok,you are a Trump fan. We get it.

As The Donald so modestly says,those of us who disagree with his pompous proclamations are "losers".

A title I proudly wear when bestowed by that gasbag Dim.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-09   15:17:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#255. To: TooConservative (#238)

You Trumpsters, following Teh Donald's lead, have made Megyn Kelly the litmus test.

We'll see how that works out for you.

Not going to wear well when The Donald sees he can't win,so he bows out of the race "because they are all losers,and I don't want to be associated with losers",and then throws his support behind the Dim candidate.

Seems to me like lot of people are going to have lots of trouble looking into the mirror the morning after that happens. Face it,this shithead is Perot without the charm,intelligence,and business experience. He is nothing but a typical spoiled and pampered NYC trust fund denizen that inherited over $200 million in cash as well as 15,000 rental properties in NYC,and thinks that makes him smart and a "winner".

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-09   15:21:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#256. To: Liberator (#239) (Edited)

Suddenly ALL those who support and will support President Trump

PRESIDENT Trump??????

Did I miss the election?

Let me ask you this,do you REALLY think a power mad control freak like Trump will turn all his business dealings over to be managed by a blind trust for 4 years if he is elected?

If your honest answer is an unreserved "Yes",it is a waste of time to try to talk reason with you.

Trump will merely audition and hire THE best consultants ...

Who will by be definition,since he is the smartest man in the world according to him,consultants that just happen to agree with him.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-09   15:25:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#257. To: sneakypete (#256)

Let me ask you this,do you REALLY think a power mad control freak like Trump will turn all his business dealings over to be managed by a blind trust for 4 years if he is elected?

Very astute question petey. I hadn't thought of that.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-08-09   15:28:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#258. To: sneakypete, Liberator (#256)

Trump will merely audition and hire THE best consultants ...

He could start with a new coiffure sylist.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-08-09   15:29:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#259. To: nolu chan (#244)

Well, he does have that 10B in assets

Not really. A financial magazine a couple of weeks ago put his actual net assets at between 2 and 3 billion.

Nothing to sneeze at for sure,but Trump is the only one claiming 10 billion,and he does that by tricks like claiming his name alone (Brand/Trademark) is worth $4 billion.

The Donald can't move his lips without lying. He is such a narcissist that he makes Bill Clinton look shy and modest by comparison.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-09   15:34:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#260. To: TooConservative (#250)

I also recall the complete failure of polling in both the British and Israeli elections in the last year.

Why is this a surprise to anyone? Polling companies are like any other companies in business. They want to remain in business and profit,and the way to do this is to please the people that hire them by telling them what they want to hear.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-09   15:37:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#261. To: TooConservative (#251)

She has a chance at the VP nod if they think her role as attack dog on Hillary!

That's assuming the Dims don't find a subtle way of knocking Bubbette! out of the race before the primaries.

They MIGHT go with Biden because they proved with Goober Gore that a candidate that is an actual idiot doesn't bother them,but I suspect they are looking for somebody smarter than a tomato plant,but that can still be trusted.

I honestly can't even guess who it would be at this point,but it seems pretty clear to me the movers and shakers in the Dim Party want to dump Bubbette!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-09   15:41:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#262. To: sneakypete (#255)

Face it,this shithead is Perot without the charm,intelligence,and business experience.

It's possible. But he has an insatiable need for public validation of him as a great man. He is more emotionally needy than most puppies. It could just be that his personality is driven to do this, now, finally, before it's too late. He's already pretty old so this is his last chance to make some big public splash.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-09   15:41:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#263. To: buckeroo (#258)

He could start with a new coiffure sylist.

I admire his hair.

Imgur: Things that Donald Trump looks like.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-09   15:43:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#264. To: TooConservative (#263)

ROTFL

buckeroo  posted on  2015-08-09   15:46:44 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#265. To: A K A Stone (#219)

You really don't have a clue or any solutions. You just whine a lot.

He acts a lot lot like Yukon; spamming the same kind of crap. It must have been easy for him to guess Yukon's password since they have such similar patterns of thought.

nativist nationalist  posted on  2015-08-09   15:48:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#266. To: TooConservative (#252)

Forbes says an honest assessment is more like half of that, about $5 billion.

Have you ever noticed that every one of the rabid Trump supporters always mention the "he's worth $10 Billion!" mantra,just like it means something valuable?

If anything it means the reverse because unlike Perot who earned his way to the Billionaire neighborhood,Trump was a shelted and protected trust fund child from multi-millionaire familIes in NYC and has never accomplished anything on his own in his entire life. He inherited over $200 million back in a time when that would probably be worth the equivalent of $2 billion today,plus 15,000 pieces of rental property in NYC.

He not only doesn't know anything about the lives of the working lower classes or the managing middle classes,he doesn't even care about them because they are "losers" that weren't smart enough to inherit mega-wealth like him.

In his entire life all he has accomplished is buying existing companies,putting his name on them,and then driving them into bankruptcy while skipping away with the investors money. He has not created one single job other than in tax accounting. All he has done is destroy companines,life savings,and end jobs for the working class.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-09   15:48:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#267. To: TooConservative (#253)

Trump doesn't have the nomination yet. In fact, there is considerable history of the big early frontrunner totally imploding or losing to somebody that no one expected to get anywhere close to the nomination.

The INSTANT he begins to suspect he's not going to win the nomination he is going to drop out and claim he is quitting because "The Republicans are all losers,and I don't want to be associated with losers."

He is a spoiled child in an adult's body.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-09   15:51:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#268. To: Fred Mertz (#257)

Very astute question petey. I hadn't thought of that.

Thanks. It's the first thing I thought of because it is who he is.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-09   15:54:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#269. To: sneakypete (#266)

In his entire life all he has accomplished is buying existing companies,putting his name on them,and then driving them into bankruptcy while skipping away with the investors money.

He has built some but not terribly successfully.

He's bet big, lost big and, due to bankruptcy laws, managed to accumulate billions from a decent fortune he inherited. Like Romney, Trump was born on third base and hit a home run. But Romney never went bankrupt or anywhere close to it.

I had reservations about Romney but, financially, he was pretty responsible. Especially compared to a Trump.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-09   15:55:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#270. To: buckeroo (#258)

Trump will merely audition and hire THE best consultants ...

He could start with a new coiffure sylist.

Not going to happen. This is "The Donald" you are speaking of. His massive ego tells him that people make fun of his hair because they are jealous of it because it is the perfect style and only "losers" wouldn't want to have hair like that if they could.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-09   15:56:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#271. To: TooConservative (#221)

Trump's father was one of the biggest slumlords in NYC. As a major real estate mogul, he wielded substantial political power as well.

A whore for JEB like you has business preaching about someone else ancestors. JEB's bankster grandfather helped to finance the Nazi party. This was the kind of housing that resulted.

nativist nationalist  posted on  2015-08-09   15:58:12 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#272. To: sneakypete (#267)

The INSTANT he begins to suspect he's not going to win the nomination he is going to drop out and claim he is quitting because "The Republicans are all losers,and I don't want to be associated with losers."

What will happen when he realizes he won't win any primaries and will be humiliated.

At that point it will be "Screw you guys, I'm going home". Or to pull a Perot for his own petty vengeance (or to cut sweet deals with Xlinton allies in NYC).

Recall Warren Buffet and how his public pleas to "please raise my income taxes that I never pay and will never pay" and suddenly Buffet's BN railway has another decade of transcontinental oil transport contracts with no competition from some nasty Keystone Pipeline. Very lucrative for old Warren.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-09   15:59:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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