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Title: Trump out at #RSG15; Update: Fiorina to Trump: “There. Is. No. Excuse.”
Source: HotAir
URL Source: http://hotair.com/archives/2015/08/07/breaking-trump-out-at-rsg15/
Published: Aug 7, 2015
Author: Ed Morrissey
Post Date: 2015-08-08 10:22:08 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 95388
Comments: 479

Earlier this evening, CNN’s Don Lemon interviewed Donald Trump about the debate on Fox News Channel last night, and set off another Trump-related tempest. After noting that Kelly pushed Trump during the debate, and that she “pushed a lot of people” besides Trump, Lemon asked, “What is it with you and Megyn Kelly?” Trump’s reply was, er … colorful, to say the least [emphasis mine]:

TRUMP: Well, I just don’t respect her as a journalist, I have no respect for her. I don’t think she’s very good, I think she’s highly overrated. But when I came out there, you know — what am I doing? I’m not getting paid for this. I go out there, and they start saying this stuff [garbled]. But you know, I didn’t know there’d be 24 million people. I knew it was going to be a big crowd because I get crowds, I get ratings. They call me the ratings machine. So I have, you know, she gets out and she starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions, and you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her … wherever. But in my opinion, she was off base.

Kelly did ask Trump tough questions in last night’s debate, but she asked tough questions of Marco Rubio on abortion too, and of other candidates on stage as well. As the front-runner, Trump should have expected tough questions, especially given his track record of supporting nearly every progressive idea at one time or another, including Hillary Clinton being President.  Kelly also asked Trump about his remarks about women, which appears to have particularly rankled him — and pushed him into validating Kelly’s premise in asking those questions in the first place. After all, it’s not often when a major party candidate takes a shot at a woman by reminding everyone of her menstrual cycle. I’m certain that will really impress women about their place in the Republican Party.

Trump was scheduled to speak at the Red State Gathering tomorrow, in the final slot at the event. Not long after these remarks, event organizer Erick Erickson announced that he had withdrawn the invitation:

That will undoubtedly anger some Trump supporters, but after last night’s debate performance and his thin-skinned whining afterward, I wonder if that group wasn’t already in decline. This might fire up the die-hard Trump troops, but suggesting that a journalist went after his target-rich record only because she was menstruating should be a disqualifier for most voters. It’s vastly worse than anything Todd Akin said, and will almost certainly have media outlets demanding responses from the other Republican candidates. It’s practically tailor-made for Democrats to hoist up the Republican War On Women banner, especially Hillary Clinton.

Get ready for plenty of Team Trump dog-in-the-manger, sour-grapes quotes in the morning, if not overnight. There may be some legitimate anger among a small group of RSG15 attendees tomorrow who wanted to see Trump at this event, but Erick has a solid case for not wanting to have this overshadow the event tomorrow, with more presidential candidates on hand to make their pitches. Erick will almost certainly address this in the morning, and we’ll see what the fallout is over the rest of the day.

Update: Carly Fiorina appears to be the first Republican candidate to respond to Trump’s remarks, perhaps fittingly so (via Twitchy):

That’s interesting, because Fiorina actually deflected a Trump question at her presser today at RSG15 by asking why the media wasn’t calling out Obama for his offensive comments about opponents of the Iran deal. Not this time, apparently.

Update: Erick has an explanation up at RedState:

But I also think that while Mr. Trump resonates with a lot of people with his bluntness, including me to a degree, there are just real lines of decency a person running for President should not trust.

His comment was inappropriate. It is unfortunate to have to disinvite him. But I just don’t want someone on stage who gets a hostile question from a lady and his first inclination is to imply it was hormonal. It just was wrong.

I have invited Megyn Kelly to attend in Donald Trump’s place tomorrow night.

Well, that would be interesting. We’ll see if she can swing that.

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#89. To: TooConservative (#41)

The DNC is probably trying to figure out how they got upstaged with the "Trump plan." They probably see Trump in the race as a master stroke of RNC strategery:)

I heard they are now delaying their first debate. Wonder is Vasserman Sholtz is looking for a lightening rod:)

As it stands all the Dim candidates are boring. Not good "television."

"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-08   14:34:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Vicomte13 (#44)

LOL Vic, "O" won't be in the same room as The Donald.

"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-08   14:36:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: redleghunter, nativist nationalist (#77)

We are at only the beginning of the nomination cycle. Kind of has the feel of a new season of WWE. Culminating in the 2016 election akin to Wrestlemania.

Hulk Hogan -- as a white male and symbol of male power -- was coincidentally singled out as ANOTHER political sacrificial victim on the altar of the "War on Womym."

The Hulkster: "take you vitamins, eat your veggies and pray!!" Lol...

I go back to the WWF -- the golden age of cartoonish "professional" wrestling. But, oh yeah; The feel is WWE/WWF-ish. It's time to remove the clown-cars, feathery boas, and mid-ring screeching from the political arena and resume 'adult" business as usual: IOW, the SAME EXACT stuff...only buried in the smokey backrooms and basement of the the elites' sanctuaries and out of view of the public.

Trump dares expose THAT stuff and blow the lid off of the mirage that politics is NOT the WWF. Except that it is, only wearing blue suits, referring to Tea Party conservatives as %$#@! expletives, and whoring out the blood American vets, servicemen, AND America. Neatly. Silently. In Private.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-08   14:44:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: redleghunter (#89)

The DNC is probably trying to figure out how they got upstaged with the "Trump plan." They probably see Trump in the race as a master stroke of RNC strategery:)

You know they're trying to script up ways to tar the entire GOP with Trump.

Media to any GOP nominee: "Why did you not confront Donald Trump's hate speech toward Mexicans or even Megan Kelly? Aren't you part of the GOP's War On Womyn?"

Etc.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-08   14:45:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: TooConservative (#0)

I don't respect FOX news nor the main stream GOP party so this is no shock to me. The rest of the so called conservative (not you per say) have to deal with what you are witnessing.

Pericles  posted on  2015-08-08   14:45:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: TooConservative (#92)

You know they're trying to script up ways to tar the entire GOP with Trump.

Is Trump the tar on the GOP or is the GOP the tar on Trump?

Pericles  posted on  2015-08-08   14:46:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: redleghunter, TooConservative (#89)

I heard they are now delaying their first debate. Wonder is Vasserman Sholtz is looking for a lightening rod:)

That depends on what the GOPe, FOX News, Megyn Kelly and Fiorina have of their collective pink sleeve.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-08   14:46:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: redleghunter (#84)

Trump was the lightening rod and that allowed other candidates to crack from their shells earlier than we would expect. Except Bush of course who played his cards safe and stuck with the script.

Exactly.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-08   14:49:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Pericles (#94)

Is Trump the tar on the GOP or is the GOP the tar on Trump?

Trump is just Trump, same as ever. He has always been only about himself.

Being a New Yorker, he considers the GOP just a line among a few dozen others on the NY state ballot, probably has no idea it isn't like that elsewhere in the country.

I think Trump is actually pretty naive about America generally, probably the worst in either field. Donald Trump's life is all about excluding the 99% entirely.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-08   14:49:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Excalibur (#83)

LOL -- I'd seen that. It's hilarious.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-08   14:50:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: nativist nationalist (#45)

Bingo

"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-08   14:53:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: TooConservative (#97)

I think Trump is actually pretty naive about America generally, probably the worst in either field. Donald Trump's life is all about excluding the 99% entirely.

Talking like a Democrat there, Hoss!

The GOP is a failed ideological party. I say this as a former Republican.

Most party supporters kind of know this. Why? 8 years of Clinton prosperity in contrast to what went on in the Bush 8 years showed - at least subliminally - many Republicans probably had their political "faith" shaken by what happened.

Of course these very same GOP members they have been saying all these talking points for years and are stuck in the faith but deep down inside they view their ideology like a failed religion. Sort of how pagans must have felt in the late Roman empire. They still sacrificed at the altar out of habit and tradition but deep down inside they know it is an empty faith.

Pericles  posted on  2015-08-08   14:58:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: TooConservative (#97)

Trump is just Trump, same as ever. He has always been only about himself.

Assume Trump is about Trump. But even if true, his legit words and anger over the illegal invasion and Sanctuary Cities did MORE to bring attention and address the problem than the last 6 1/2 years of GOP under Boehner and McConnell. Speaking of which -- are both Boehner and McConnell representing their own selfish interests, OR just the interests of their pimps?

Don't tell me Jeb has ever been about anything BUT himself. Same of both Dubya and Poppy. Proof is in the pudding.

I think Trump is actually pretty naive about America generally, probably the worst in either field. Donald Trump's life is all about excluding the 99% entirely.

So naive that he's hit on the hot-button of many Americans, trouncing the GOP field in the polls before the GOPe colluded with FOX News to shut him down.

Trump has demonstrated in word that he IS in tune with the world -- the 99% -- and not as naive or informed as you'd like to believe.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-08   14:59:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: nativist nationalist (#45)

Ruperts RINO babes remind me of the line from the Don Henly song "Dirty Laundry:"

We got the bubble-headed-bleach-blond who
Comes on at five
She can tell you 'bout the plane crash with a gleam
In her eye
It's interesting when people die
Give us dirty laundry...

Worth repeating #Megyn Kelly

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-08   15:03:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Pericles (#100)

Most party supporters kind of know this. Why? 8 years of Clinton prosperity in contrast to what went on in the Bush 8 years showed - at least subliminally - many Republicans probably had their political "faith" shaken by what happened.

When Clinton was President the economy was still running on Reagans fumes left in the gas tank. By the time Bush became President the Clinton Stench was already taking hold.

Excalibur  posted on  2015-08-08   15:16:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: TooConservative (#56)

On some occasions Trump appears to have recognized he's gone too far. In April, he retweeted, then deleted, a tweet that read, "If Hillary Clinton can't satisfy her husband what makes her think she can satisfy America?"

Very crude but an accurate assessment.

His comments on attractive women winning on his show is also accurate. Do you think Meg Kelly would have a plum job at Fox and her time slot if she was smart, accomplished and homely? Not.

Perhaps that is what sets Trump off when Kelly asks him questions. He knows.

"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-08   15:20:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: TooConservative (#81)

Certainly, she self-promotes. (Like Trump doesn't?)

Kelly -- like most of these "news reporters" are NOT supposed to BE the "news." She -- like they -- are supposed to REPORT it.

A lot of insiders think that she was auditioning to become the main anchor at ABCNNBCBS. The salary for that is over $30 million....there are obvious openings and Kelly's agent would be well aware of them.

Hadn't heard of that theory, but now...it ALL makes sense, doesn't it?

So, yes, Kelly may have an agenda. A yuge paycheck and the power of being a network anchor, independent of Fox News.

I'm sooo glad that Kelly's fortune and stock will rise on the ashes of an America she helped burn to the ground. This bimbo (who's used her ass-ets as...ASSETS) has ZERO integrity. She crossed several lines while whoring her way into Babylon.

Her condescending "What does God say to you" line of questioning to select candidates will never be forgotten by people like me. Of course THAT attitude and question must have gotten all the secular, homofascist, atheist alphabet execs into a orgasmic tizzy.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-08   15:23:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Pericles (#100)

The GOP is a failed ideological party. I say this as a former Republican.

They're going the way of the Whigs. The Whigs cucked themselves to the democrats, who wanted cheap labor, and the political advantage. They made a habit of betraying Whig voters, and Whig voters found a new party. That's how the GOP rose, and that why it is falling now. It has ignored the lessons of history, and is now being damned to repeat history. Whatever else; it is nice to see the suffering of RINO's and cuckservatives.

nativist nationalist  posted on  2015-08-08   15:24:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Excalibur (#103)

When Clinton was President the economy was still running on Reagans fumes left in the gas tank. By the time Bush became President the Clinton Stench was already taking hold.

No, that is bullshit and a wilful forgetting of history. The fact that Bush was president in between Clinton and Reagan is forgotten by you? What engine do you know that runs on fumes for 4 years?

In any case, Clinton era economy showed that raising taxes has zero effect on an economy. Gingrich and most Republicans screamed that the raising of taxes would tank the economy and that did not happen. Bush came in and cut taxes and the economy sank regardless.

Pericles  posted on  2015-08-08   15:26:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Liberator (#101)

Trump has demonstrated in word that he IS in tune with the world -- the 99% -- and not as naive or informed as you'd like to believe.

Seems like he has established a game plan based upon Angelo Codevilla's "Country Party." GOP thought they could keep selling anti-freeze labeled as wine and never lose market share.

nativist nationalist  posted on  2015-08-08   15:27:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: redleghunter (#78)

You still a Trump supporter?

More than ever.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-08-08   15:30:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: redleghunter (#104)

Very crude but an accurate assessment.

Even if true, I don't think America wants a prez that talks like that.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-08   15:32:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: nativist nationalist (#106) (Edited)

hey're going the way of the Whigs. The Whigs cucked themselves to the democrats, who wanted cheap labor, and the political advantage. They made a habit of betraying Whig voters, and Whig voters found a new party. That's how the GOP rose, and that why it is falling now. It has ignored the lessons of history, and is now being damned to repeat history. Whatever else; it is nice to see the suffering of RINO's and cuckservatives.

Good observation but I would say the GOP died as a party when the Great Depression happened.

The American people of that time blamed the Republicans both for Prohibition and for the Great Depression. By the early 20th century the two party system was cemented into place. That one called itself Democratic and Republican was just an identifier of one of the two parties. So even though the GOP died, it lived on as being the "other" party on the ballot as part of our two party system.

After WW2, the GOP won again by being Democrat light with Eisenhower, but lost big time again. The racial politics of the south allowed Nixon to steal white Dixiecrat votes and Reagan continued that via Reagan Democrats but that is about it. The GOP kind of clawed itself back but it won the Congress via gerrymandering - Less people voted for Republicans over all than Democrats.

The Republicans still sound like it's a party arguing over things I see in 1970s reruns of Archie Bunker. It is like they got fixated on issues that were all the rage in the 1970s and like some crazy homeless person just keeps repeating the same argument they had with someone over 40 years ago and continue arguing with this imaginary person while they collect cans.

It is 2014 and the Republican talk radio just sounds like it is arguing some right vs left issue from a 1970s Archie Bunker episode.

Pericles  posted on  2015-08-08   15:34:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: TooConservative, redleghunter (#110)

Even if true, I don't think America wants a prez that talks like that.

Americans don't know what they want. That is why God created advertising.

Pericles  posted on  2015-08-08   15:36:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Liberator (#105)

I'm sooo glad that Kelly's fortune and stock will rise on the ashes of an America she helped burn to the ground.

Personally, I would have picked Greta instead.

But Kelly was given Hannity's slot to try to improve demographics with younger women. FNC has been a channel for old men. Horny old men from rural areas who like to watch women read the news in low-cut dresses with a high hemline.     : )

Even so, all these media types are always colluding with their agent to strategize their careers. They flip from one network to another. Look at how Beck left CNN to come to FNC for their first afternoon talk show.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-08   15:38:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Pericles, TooConservative, Vicomte13 (#100)

The GOP is a failed ideological party. I say this as a former Republican.

Failed because the globalist country club cabal throttled the party and divided it into TWO parties. Anyone who not gotten that memo by now is...in a coma.

Deep down inside they [Republicans] know it [Republicanism] is an empty faith.

If there's an "empty faith," is the the Scientology of political parties -- The Democrat Party, a cult which votes and thinks monolithicly, and does exactly what they're told -- like L. Ron Hubbard's Cult.

Their party platform is actually the disbelief in a deity (yet they worship themselves and others within their cult. ); Their "holy" sacrament is abortion; In brief, their creed is, "Gimme your preborn baby and body parts to sell; We pledge their blood-money to our Master, The Beast of the Underworld. We steal your tax-money and even help finance the Holy Abortion Industry...BUT defend the rights of lions and tiger and bears to live -- OH MY!"

Dems are the vilest, lowest, most evil beings of God's good earth. Remove abortion from the equation, and these people still remain illogical, self-absorbed, vile, vicious, evil, divisive, covetous, and liars.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-08   15:39:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Liberator (#101)

trouncing the GOP field in the polls before the GOPe colluded with FOX News to shut him down.

to TRY to shut him down. He's not shut down if the people react to that lynch mob with leaving Fox and telling Megyn Kelly to STFU every time they see her.

They're after him. Support him MORE. And when they belittle Trump, and belittle Trump supporters, belittle them back.

Be sure to use words that they find "offensive" - they're aiming to control the language and control you by controlling the language. Hit them back and make them retreat from you. Do not concede any ground, any where. Enough. Take the stand and shout them down. They try to intimidate, yell louder, shout them down, Do not let them flap their shit traps to speak their conniving words. If they are so easily frightened, then scare the living shit out of them.

Trump is still very much in the game.

He meant NOSE. He bloodied her NOSE. Carla Fiorina hyperventilated from her skirt - not Presidential material. She was a useless failure of an executive and gets her panties in a wad IMAGINING slurs against women that are not there.

A whiny, useless person, who was useless as a mere corporate executive. Shut her up. Shut them down. Give them nothing.

Trump is in the game. And people like it, like him, and think that people who whine about talking about giving a reporterette a bloody nose are pussies.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-08-08   15:40:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Liberator (#114)

Remove abortion from the equation, and these people still remain illogical, self-absorbed, vile, vicious, evil, divisive, covetous, and liars.

Remove abortion from the picture, and I see a Democrat party that presses for universal education, health insurance, retirement, and that so far has gotten us Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare, the GI Bill, the VA Loan, and weekends.

So I'd say that it's too bad that the Democrats are babykillers, because absent that, they would be the best party to represent the middle class. Crony capitalists never have had anyone but themselves at heart.

But, alas, Democrats ARE babykilling ghouls, so they're not acceptable. It's a shame. It means nobody is acceptable.

Trump, at least, tells it like it is. In the absence of any good parties, I at least somebody who doesn't try to blow sunshine up my ass.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-08-08   15:44:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: TooConservative (#110)

Even if true, I don't think America wants a prez that talks like that.

Well boo hoo for the ones who don't. They need to man up and grow thicker skins.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-08-08   15:45:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: nativist nationalist (#108)

Seems like he has established a game plan based upon Angelo Codevilla's "Country Party." GOP thought they could keep selling anti-freeze labeled as wine and never lose market share.

HA! Yeah...

The GOP will continue doing that -- lying, bullying, betraying, poisoning us and the nation. And serving us a big fat elephant turd on a paper plate and reminding us to stop complaining.

BUSH, McCONNELL, BOEHNER: "SHADDUP!! The MENU is MUCH worse over in the Dem Party."

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-08   15:46:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Vicomte13 (#115)

He meant NOSE. He bloodied her NOSE.

So you think it's fine for a man to talk about giving a woman a bloody nose? Seriously?

Stop trying to excuse the inexcusable. You know exactly what he meant.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-08   15:52:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: redleghunter, TooConservative, nativist nationalist, Vicomte13 (#104)

His comments on attractive women winning on his show is also accurate. Do you think Meg Kelly would have a plum job at Fox and her time slot if she was smart, accomplished and homely? Not.

Perhaps that is what sets Trump off when Kelly asks him questions. He knows.

+100

Trump is an insider who knows all the secrets of the elites and just how loudly money talks. Eye-candy who can exploit their charms and editorialize and fake being a conservative like Kelly are a dime a dozen.

Trump's biggest sin: betraying the secret insider pinky-shake of the 1%'ers. And THAT is the reason the elites are stampeding him. Hopefully monied elite like him will be bold enough to break the fraternity of evil that binds them.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-08   15:53:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: TooConservative (#81)

A lot of insiders think that she was auditioning to become the main anchor at ABCNNBCBS.

LOL! The bimbo has about as much chance of landing an anchor job as Whorealdo does.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-08-08   16:01:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: TooConservative (#119) (Edited)

So you think it's fine for a man to talk about giving a woman a bloody nose? Seriously?

Stop trying to excuse the inexcusable. You know exactly what he meant.

Yes. Women are equal nowadays. When a woman stands up to you toe to toe to try to take you out, you beat the shit out her verbally just exactly as she will do to you. And if she hits you, you take her out physically.

They are not prissy little creatures, they say they don't want to be treated as prissy little creatures, they are, in fact, often manipulative, temperamental nasty bitches who deserve to be slapped down verbally just exactly like men - and they never hesitate to do it.

Celtic women - French, Irish, Scots, etc, have always been fierce and difficult. Megyn Kelly is not some tender little damsel in distress. She came out there to have a fistflght with Donald Trump. She did. And she's been empowered by it. She and Fiorina. When women run things, it's always a miserable fucking disaster.

No.

Donald meant her nose. I would've meant her cunt.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-08-08   16:04:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Vicomte13 (#115)

He's not shut down if the people react to that lynch mob with leaving Fox and telling Megyn Kelly to STFU every time they see her.

Yep, true. Megyn is taking heaps of criticism -- she couldn't have expected the degree or volume of impassioned disappointment and contempt.

That said...does a fallen tree in a forest make a sound if no one hears it? Expect a black-out of Trump by a collusive media. The kook Beck and the Blaze had sworn NOT to even mention Trump's name before the debate.

They're after him. Support him MORE. And when they belittle Trump, and belittle Trump supporters, belittle them back.

It's an interesting dynamic, isn't it? The depth of Trump's support and relating to the 99% is incredibly under-estimated by the media as well as the RNC/GOPe.

Be sure to use words that they find "offensive" - they're aiming to control the language and control you by controlling the language. Hit them back and make them retreat from you. Do not concede any ground, any where. Enough. Take the stand and shout them down. They try to intimidate, yell louder, shout them down, Do not let them flap their shit traps to speak their conniving words. If they are so easily frightened, then scare the living shit out of them.

Lol -- with ya, Vic. Nice to see we're standing shoulder to shoulder on this. It transcends simple politics. This is a war of attrition; Over principle. And of free speech. And against lies winning over truth.

Trump is still very much in the game....

He meant NOSE. He bloodied her NOSE. Carla Fiorina hyperventilated from her skirt - not Presidential material. She was a useless failure of an executive and gets her panties in a wad IMAGINING slurs against women that are not there.

Fiorina has been consulted on how exactly to spin this ambiguous statement to their advantage. That spin will be reinforced jointly by the new Axis of Evil -- GOPe, Dems, and MSM. Her artillery offensive is based SOLELY from under her skirt. Correctamundo.

Trump is in the game. And people like it, like him, and think that people who whine about talking about giving a reporterette a bloody nose are pussies.

Lol...this has got you goin'! Giddy up, Vic! Trump won't make this easy for them.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-08   16:06:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Vicomte13 (#116)

Remove abortion from the picture, and I see a Democrat party that presses for universal education, health insurance, retirement, and that so far has gotten us Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare, the GI Bill, the VA Loan, and weekends.

They've used that spending NOT out of compassion, but as weapons of personal and party POWER.

Some of those items are earned, some designed as a safety net...but NEVER as an ENTITLEMENT. They provide Exibit A is to why the USA is $19 TRILLION in debt; It's just not sustainable. Someone is profiteering, and it ain't the above people. It's lobbyists, those businesses and politicians who've been overcharging on the increased numbers of lazy, parasitic, generation welfare slobs...And those whose pensions for the leftist/socialist cademe and goob drones rake in upwards of $50k+ with Platinum health insurance. bennies. Some retirement bennies start at age 45 or so. Gimme a break.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-08   16:13:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: Liberator, TooConservative, Vicomte13 (#114)

e GOP is a failed ideological party. I say this as a former Republican. Failed because the globalist country club cabal throttled the party and divided it into TWO parties. Anyone who not gotten that memo by now is...in a coma.

Deep down inside they [Republicans] know it [Republicanism] is an empty faith.

If there's an "empty faith," is the the Scientology of political parties -- The Democrat Party, a cult which votes and thinks monolithicly, and does exactly what they're told -- like L. Ron Hubbard's Cult.

OK, one more time because you don't get the point. Republican conservatives deep down inside have a crisis of faith regarding the economic ideology of the Republican party.

All the bad things the GOP party said would happen under Clinton in terms of the economy did not happen - the economy was booming.

All the good things that should have happened to the economy after W Bush passed tax cuts, etc did not happen and the economy sank when trickle down should have worked because the rich had more of their money to spend and people had more of their money to spend.

Obama passes a tax increase and now we are passing the economic level Romney said his tax cuts would take us to. Big business was given tax cuts but they cut wages or held back on raises to people since Reagan's 1980s. So no trickle down.

What this amounts to is Republican base members thinking they need to sacrifice an animal at the altar or the sun won't shine the next day. One day they don't sacrifice the animal and the sun rises anyway. They realize that the sacrifice has zero to do with the rising or setting of the sun but continue to do it out if habit - meanwhile no one mentions this out loud but deep sown inside they know their sacrifice to the sun god is meaningless. That takes its toll on the true believers psyche. It has to.

Pericles  posted on  2015-08-08   16:15:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: TooConservative, Vicomte13 (#119)

So you think it's fine for a man to talk about giving a woman a bloody nose? Seriously?

I believe in "Equality" -- don't you?

NEWSFLASH: Women start fights, are murderers and assault people too. Sometimes there are consequences. Just sayin'.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-08   16:15:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: Vicomte13, TooConservative (#122) (Edited)

So you think it's fine for a man to talk about giving a woman a bloody nose? Seriously? Stop trying to excuse the inexcusable. You know exactly what he meant.

Yes. Women are equal nowadays.

I am probably rationalizing Trump's boorish behavior (and I am a supporter) but if women want to be treated as equals and not like children (their pre suffrage legal status) then they can be metaphorically punched bloody. Politics is a blood sport it is said, is it not?

The thing with Trump is that he is saying, I may talk like this but I am a highly competent business man/man of action. I will fix problems - I am a problem solver.

Steve Jobs is praised as some sort of genius - and he was in a way. But he was also a complete asshole and boor as well. But if he ran for president his talents are so great that it outweighs having poor manners. Same kind of thinking people have with Trump. He has poor table manners but he will fix stuff.

Also, here is the unsaid truth that the GOP is freaking over - ideologues don't solve shit. If ideology says 2+2 must equal 5 then an ideologue will never really fix a problem where the answer is 4.

So deep down many Republicans must be thinking this. Trump will fix this and because he is not a true conservative all that bullshit we know is conservative ideological bullshit ideology (like capitalism's love of free trade is good for American jobs) won't get in his way.

Pericles  posted on  2015-08-08   16:20:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: Pericles (#125)

OK, one more time because you don't get the point. Republican conservatives deep down inside have a crisis of faith regarding the economic ideology of the Republican party.

All the bad things the GOP party said would happen under Clinton in terms of the economy did not happen - the economy was booming.

An economy, freedom and business atmosphere STILL basking in the policies of Reagan and Poppy Bush. Reagan's policies made the US a powerhouse during the 80s midway thru the 90s. Yes, REAGAN.

Klintoon's 8 years of over-officiousness, over-regulations, and anti-business policies soon helped jettison American factories and business to China. HELLO.

0buma passes a tax increase and now we are passing the economic level Romney said his tax cuts would take us to.

And where is that? To hell in a hand-basket?? Two socialists whose nonsensical policies are devastating the US economy is NOT a surprise.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-08   16:22:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Liberator (#128) (Edited)

An economy, freedom and business atmosphere STILL basking in the policies of Reagan and Poppy Bush. Reagan's policies made the US a powerhouse during the 80s midway thru the 90s. Yes, REAGAN.

A debtor nation is not an economic power house indicator. That is like saying you are rich because you live off my credit cards.

Clinton raised taxes and the economy boomed. He used the raised taxes from a booming economy to balance the budget. Bush, jr cut taxes and gave all the American people a refund because individual Americans know what is best with how to use their money and their credit card bills rose and the economy sank anyways. Reagan actually cut taxes and had to raise them again. No windfall in revenue came from cutting taxes - it did not somehow grow revenue from investments or some such.

Pericles  posted on  2015-08-08   16:27:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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