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Published: Aug 6, 2015
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Post Date: 2015-08-06 20:56:58 by Rufus T Firefly
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The Fox talking heads declared Carly Fiorina the winner of the consolation prize d debate, Part I She did well - we'll see.
HEADLINE! HEADLINE! TRUMP GRIMACED
TRUMP GRIMACED I think Jeb! may have farted shamelessly. He's pandering to the Farto-American vote.
Kasich - big government republican. Strike 3 - he's outta there.
Illegal Immigration - act of love. If Jebster wasn't a Bush, he'd be outta t there, too.
1st break - Trump's still standing
File this under you can't make this stuff....Rand Paul attacking Trump for not pledging to support the REP nominee if not Trump or not pledging not to run 3rd party if Trump doesn't get the nomination. Really? I wonder if he has ever talked with his Dad about this, the Wizard Paul.
потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Paul is crossed off my list. He comes across as a creepy asshole.
Now Kasich is trying to ride Trump's coattails
Ah oh - Walker flip-flopper.
Scott Walker is looking good.
Cruz is probably the smartest guy in the room. Too bad he'll never be elected POTUS (funny lookin', doncha know)
His demeanor comes off as genuine.
(funny lookin', doncha know) Cruz is the 2nd smartest - forgot Ben Carson
At this point I could support Walker - but to get the nomination he'd have to be corr corrupted. It's a catch-22 situation
I'm not getting it on my Free-TV airwaves. Did I miss anything?
It's on Fox
Little dustup there between Crispy and Paul
Softball question to the Jebster - Gift from Murdoch
Both very bright in their fields. Cruz as a top grad of Princeton and Harvard Law is probably got the edge in raw brains. Unless you need brain surgery in which case you'll think Carson is smarter. : )
Carson gets a question - FINALLY. I like his answer about doing what we have to do to win a war
Ron Paul did not run for the GOP nomination in '88. He went LP first. Nor did he run third-party when he could have after he lost the 2008 and the 2012 nomination fight, even though he was widely urged to do so and both LP and CP were ready to dual-nominate him. Rand looked a little desperate to land a blow on Trump, admittedly. He didn't help himself. But his dad has nothing to do with it.
I have ROKU, am getting audio on Fox, but can not get any video, on ROKU, or on line. Sounded like Paul just punched Christie pretty good.
Si vis pacem, para bellum
It ain't on my local Fox affiliate. I was dying to see it. If I'm dying I'm lying. How's Donald doing?
The server is busy but you can try this stream. http://www.livenewschat.eu/the-republican-debates-live-stream/?ref=story It took me a minute or two to get a connection so it would stream but it runs well if you just wait for it to get going.
Donald's still standing. It's on Cable or satellite - Fox News
Scott Walker has an easygoing low-key style. It is easy to like him. The bar is set low, nothing dramatic. I think people get very comfortable with him. Walker is apparently the main pick of the Tea folk. They unified behind him early and have mostly stuck with him. Some of the Tea types who supported Cruz and Paul have gone with Trump now but Walker kept hold of his.
He got hit between the eyes with a 2x4 in the very first question. And he wasn't ready for the one question he had to know they would ask. Donald was a deer in the headlights for about 10 seconds. Then he realized how bad he looked and tried to backpedal. Too late. He was caught. Clever of the moderators but kinda underhanded. OTOH, who is Trump to complain that someone has played some media hardball? Trump is a media shark himself. No one is going to consider him a victim.
DrewM at AoS is convinced Kasich will be Bush's running mate. Depressing, eh? A lot of others seem to think that is the natural ticket because the GOP must win FL and they must win OH or they can't win at all. Much as I dislike Bush and Kasich, I'm not totally convinced they are wrong. The Dems get 242 electoral votes if they just flip off their voters and don't even campaign. So the EC is slanted against the GOP.
He could have definitely answered it better. You know, though, that if a "Cruz" were the nominee, you'd have some gop-e pe people that would be supporting the democrat. Remember when Colin Powell - who claims to be a republican - couldn't even support his "friend" John McLunatic?
I just downsized my Comcast package down to just 20 channels... and the debate isn't one of them. I'll watch it on YouTube... but Facebook already reports that Fox (and Megan Kelly) aren't being fair to the Donald.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Fox looks at Trump as the skunk in the hen house.
Huckabee isn't doing to bad either.
He's terrible on illegals, though. And while I'm an old fart who will be drawing SS pretty soon myself, the Huckster's plan on not touching a broken system is unrealistic.
Why did Trump interrupt to assure the audience that he opposed the Iraq war in 2004? What, along with John Kerry? We invaded Iraq in early 2003. Did Trump want Bush to just yank them out a year later? I don't recall Trump saying anything like that. Even Vox is ridiculing Trump's statement. It was as incoherent as Jeb!'s statement about Dumbya's Iraq war.
He'll never get the money or attention. In a crowded field, he'll have even less chance than he did in the 2008 field. But Huckabee is just likeable to a lot of people. It's not hard to see why. He's a bit of a people pleaser, like another Arkansas pol, Bill Xlinton. I think Walker has an edge in youth, being low-key, having the right demeanor, perceived by voters as "approachable", "cares about people like me", etc. The usual polling benchmarks.
I saw Rubio in the warm-up a few days ago. He seems pretty sharp with those Vulcan ears.
He seems pretty sharp with those Vulcan ears. He looks more Romulan than Vulcan, don't you think? He gave up on the big hair and has gone slicked-back. It works well because his hair was thinning and receding. Going slick conceals the thinness and lets him do a tiny combover in the front. Same with Jeb! and his hair. They must have the same stylist. Walker has that hopeless bald spot but he's from Wisconsin and he's comfortable with it. : ) Rand's hair looks a little less like a mop. Maybe his wife made him stop cutting his own hair in the shower. What a cheapskate. I like the intangibles as much as the issues.
Check my #25 to Fred. The streaming worked for me but I had to wait almost 2 minutes for it to start streaming and it looked dead until the video suddenly appeared and started playing smoothly. Not sure if it worked for Fred or not.
Why does it take 3 sentences to ask 1 question? Why do the moderators have to frame the questions from the liberal side of the aisle? War on women? Like this is a real thing in America.
What state was Jebby a governor of ?
Si vis pacem, para bellum
He refused to say that he would support the REP nominee if it wasn't him. That's chicken sh*t then, now and always. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
I hope you have seen Dollar Donald for what he is and x'd him as well. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Ben Carson would be at or near the top of my list if he weren't a True Believer Fundie. I just can't vote to make someone president that believes in magic and miracles. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Fred,I'm betting it will be on YouTube by the morning. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I don't know of a Jebby. Jeb Bush though was guvnah of Florida when Terry Schiavo was allowed to die of thirst. I think he was also guvnah when Elian Gonzalez was taken by jackbooted SWAT team members from his family in Floriduh.
http://www.drudgereport.com/now.htm **DRUDGE POLL** WHO WON THE FIRST REPUBLICAN DEBATE '16? BUSH 2.59% (4,684 votes) CARSON 10.25% (18,531 votes) CHRISTIE 1.44% (2,605 votes) CRUZ 15.54% (28,105 votes) HUCKABEE 3.52% (6,361 votes) KASICH 4.97% (8,987 votes) PAUL 9.52% (17,215 votes) RUBIO 9.76% (17,659 votes) TRUMP 37.84% (68,433 votes) WALKER 4.57% (8,288 votes) Total Votes: 180,868
JEB played it safe and looked uncomfortable when stating things he did not believe. Does that make sense:) I missed the earlier debate. Was that on PMSNBC? "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
I think Cruz, Kasich and Rubio did fine. Huck got in a few good lines to remind them he was still there. Walker did a good job promoting his record but was a bit somnolent. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
True. But he steadily refused any urging to run third-party and explained it was futile, given the built-in advantages the two parties create for themselves to exclude third parties. A third party faces big hurdles just to get on all the state ballots and much of their money and time is spent on that while the bigwigs pour massive funding into the two parties, increasing their advantage further. Not endorsing your party's nominee is not the same as running third party after participating in a party's nomination process. And for all the whining over Ron Paul not endorsing the Stain or Romney, do you think it would have made any difference? Of course not. You're just whining to hear yourself whine over something you know full well would have made no difference in the 2008 or 2012 election.
Jeb recited answers. His team obviously made lists of every possible question and drilled Bush on them, right down to the exact phrasing he should use. Bush delivered his lines like an amateur actor, mostly in a flat voice. You could tell he was reciting. It had all the drama of a bad amateur theater production. Bush was a total snoozer. On FNC at 4pm CST in the same hall.
Fox moderators really wanted to knock out Trump early in the going. He got the toughest treatment given he has a big mouth.
"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Under the camera light I got the impression Rand has a tupee. Can't confirm this.
"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Mrs. RLH crossed off Jeb after she heard his name mentioned along with common core. His answer trying to wiggle out of it doomed him with her even more. Mrs. RLH is president of my son's school PTA:) Interesting to get her perspective given she hates these debates. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Ok yes Trump started out terrible but had some moments where he was 100% correct. One was that the moderators wouldn't be talking about illegal immigration if he did not make a stink about it. He's right.
"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
C'mon. A self-selected PollDaddy poll? You don't recall when I demonstrated how easy it is to slam PollDaddy polls with Bash scripting, back at LP? A very fine expose on how easy it is for techie types to manipulate self-selected online polls. I think Trump hurt himself. Maybe a 5% drop in the polls. I'd say that Cruz recovered some voters from him. And Huck helped himself with Iowa voters, especially the Fair Tax voters that loved him so much in 2008. I think Rubio lost ground and is wishing he hadn't given up his senate seat to run for prez. Rubio may be heading for the JV debate next time around. He's great at soaring Peggy Noonan speeches at a convention but not good at a debate. Paul was a wash (helped himself with younger voters, probably lost some older voters), Walker mostly a wash and a little boring, Kasich a yawn (but probably helped himself a little), Christie thinks he did great but I thought he looked like a bully again. I think Trump was the night's biggest loser, along with Rubio and Bush. Carson and Huckabee and Cruz (and Fiorina) were the biggest winners and move up and get more fundraising. The rest didn't hurt or help themselves much either way.
Walker is going bald too early in his political career. He won't survive SNL in the general election:)
"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Cross them all off the list Pete. They are all Christians who believe in Christ and His miracles. It should tell you something that the smartest man on stage is also a believer. There's always Hitlery. She's not a "fundy.":) "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Cruz has been hardline on immigration throughout. So Trump was bombastic and got a lot of media attention but immigration would definitely have surfaced, even without Donald Trump raving about Mexican rapists. Trump took a major hit from each of the moderators. Baier hit him right off with the third-party question. Wallace hit him with his bankruptcies. Kelly tried to hit him with the you're-mean-to-girls crap and he mostly brushed that off but she definitely got him good when she asked how long he has been a Republican (which he dodged and weaved but never admitted his registration as a Republican only goes back to 2009. I noticed that in the Hannity post-debate interviews, Trump's hair had lost its 4-way combover plastered with industrial-quality hairspray. His hair was falling all over his forehead in cute bangs, making him look like an old, blonde and angry version of Twiggy (not that you're old enough to know who she was). Trump was thrown way off his game. He was sputtering, almost incoherent by the time he gave his closing.
I thought someone said Chris Matthews was a moderator at that one. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
I think his general style and personality carries him past his little Hair Club For Men problem. But I could be wrong. I know a lot of GOP women like Rubio for no reason they can articulate. And, other than the quarter-size bald spot at the back of his head, he looks good with his new combover moussed look. But I recall that both Dan Quayle and Paul Ryan were supposed to be total chick magnets and how that didn't work out so well.
Yes women don't miss those terrible comb overs. The Mrs. pointed it out immediately in the Hannity segment.
"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
No. Martha Blondelowcut and Bill Hemmer. They seemed a little lightweight to me but did okay, I guess. However, Carly Fiorina apparently left her victory at the 4pm debate and went on Matthews' show and tore him to shreds. Maybe we'll have some video tomorrow. No need to wait, HA has it up. HotAir: Video: Carly Fiorina’s attack on Hillary leaves Chris Matthews speechless
They kinda ganged up on him with Common Core. Bush was ready but not ready enough. His wooden rote answers sounded weak. It was one of the few moments where I thought Bush seemed remarkably lifelike. Otherwise, a robotic corpse.
It is being replayed on CNN and Fox News. The one who really did well was Fiorina in the early debate. She scooped up over 80% of the first place votes. I just heard on the radio that Fiorina left her debate notes at hotel and winged it. Fox (GOP central) has been dumping on Trump. He appears to be dominating a poll at Drudge. His performance could go either way. Megyn Kelly went out of her way to make things difficult for Trump, but had some difficult questions for all. I thought Cruz, Kasich and Walker did ok. I thought Rubio would do better. Jeb and Rubio seemed too scripted. Christie and Paul did not help each other, and Paul should have left Trump alone. Carson had a good closing. Huckabee had some good laugh lines.
She shut Matthews up. He cut and ran.
I'm not sure he ran but he knew he'd met his match. She didn't fall for his gotchas, went on offensive against Hitlery and was relatively immune to the usual PMSNBC War On Women attack memes he was trying to peddle. She's no half-baked Palin. She is much improved as a candidate since her 2010 Senate run.
Another self-selected poll. Worthless.
Or so they claim for career purposes. The difference is that Carson really and truly believes. It should tell you something that the smartest man on stage is also a believer. That even smart people can be wrong? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
He's not used to sharing the limelight or having to justify what he says. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
She handled him amazingly well.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Missed the main event . Carly Fiorina showed that she had a strong command of foreign policy as well as economic issues ,and that she belongs at the adult table . Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
I would take that as a sign he either doesn't really know much of anything or he was lying his ass off or both. Ahhh yes support the nimrod that the establishment nominates, where has that thought process gotten this country in the last 80 years?? Where did you pick up that $5 word at? :) 8 years of O'bunghole... and maybe even a Shitlary Clinton. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Yes she did !! Good for her! Si vis pacem, para bellum
I was impressed with Carly Fiorina, as well. Not only the debate itself, but the way she handled Chris Matthews. My only concern - when she ran for the Senate in CA, how did she lose to perhaps the only woman in politics stupider than Nancy Pelosi (i.e. Boxer)? If she WERE to be the nominee, she would be running against the worlds SMARTEST woman, doncha know? (sarcasm tag /off)
She's a staunch Methodist and a believer who has a Bible Study circle. Pete will have to cross her of his list too.
That's pretty close to my observations as well. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Why are you so convinced Ben Carson is wrong about his faith? "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Where did you pick up that $5 word at? :) Archbishop Stepinac HS in NY:) Had a buddy on the basketball team who always slept in AP History class and that word came up quite often from a Fr. Quinn. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Pete will have to cross her of his list too. I would love to attend one of those Bible studies:) What exactly is a 'staunch" Methodist these days? I'm sure she is not the original Wesleyan Methodist. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
He is not his dad.
looking for a cabinet post. He knows he is not on the short list for VP, but hopes for a cushy cabinet post, to build his g0vt pension. What he doesn't understand is that under a President Trump, there will be no cushy cabinet post.
But Xlinton will be looking for some so-called republicans to fill her regime. Perhaps he can pull a "Chuck Hagel" and put in his application there
Why are you so convinced Ben Carson is wrong about his faith? When did I ever say anyone was wrong to have faith? I just happen to personally believe the whole "God" thing is nothing more than a scam,but I have never tried to claim people don't have a right to believe what they want to believe as long as they aren't harming anyone. I also don't want a "True Believer" in anything but the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights sitting in the WH,and will NOT vote for one because a True Believer will put his religious beliefs ahead of everything else,and that is the kind of crap that leads to religious slavery and Holy Wars. You go ahead and vote for anyone you want,but I will never vote for a funidie of any faith. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I am still not impressed by Cruz's stage ability. He is smart and probably a great court lawyer but he is trying to dumb it down and seem sincere (does he look like that always with the attempt to make an earnest face or is that an act?). Anyway, as a marketing guy myself I see Cruz as Joe Isuzu.... The rest kind of did as good as I expected and I think Dr Carson redeemed himself in my eyes. For a long time, this very smart neurosurgeon always sounded like a retard Freeper - and not know the Baltic countries were in NATO would just have me wondering if he was really smart or just an affirmative action doctor? But last night Carson spoke in a way that redeemed him in my eyes. He is a smart guy but knows jack about foreign policy and politics so he was copying talk show radio points (like Trump did). Also, why are we calling these debates "debates" - they are question and answer sessions. Trump did OK - no knockout tonight by him on the others but I think he won't be hurt too much by how new he was to the process. Chris Christie's support for the Patriot Act and mentioning 9/10 and 9/11 over and over made me sick. I fucking hate Republicans invoking 9/11 after the shit those morons did under retard Bush. Paul had it right - get a warrant from a judge you fat piece of shit. Paul seemed combative but that is not his strength. Oh, and Bush looked puzzled. Like he was not expecting it to be this hard or something.
For all practical purposes Bubbette! has been crossed off of all my positive lists since she entered college. IMHO she would make an excellent crash test dummy for the National Highway Safety Act people. After all,she has plenty of padding and she is definitely a dummy. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
What about JEB? He's a close family friend,and their families have been doing business together ever since Bubba was the Governor of Ark. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
The same way she tore Hewlett Packard to shreds as CEO. That woman is a smooth talking dud who rides a meticulously groomed public image but has accomplished nothing of substance. She's the biggest destructive con person of the lot and is dangerous.
Paul had good positions but he was way too eager to jump in on the attack, especially going after Trump right out of the gate as a Xlinton puppet. Christie, like most of the others, want to declare war on Rand Paul and anyone who doesn't want to invade Syria/Iraq/Iran. The GOP is delusional if they think they will win by promising more wars in the Mideast. The public will not sign up for it. Inasmuch as Rand Paul is the only GOP candidate who isn't promising war, he did okay. But I doubt he gained many votes last night so the debate did nothing to move him up the list.
I agree with you - at least you saw it like I did - Paul was eager to jump in but it does not always work for him - not his style. Trump needs to prepare more. Just bar room talk about building Mexican walls (which I support) is not enough. Debates never sway me because I am political junkie and already have my mind made up unless the person is a drooling idiot on stage. Trump being anti-free trade and saying so on TV really made me feel good. I am an old school conservative and patriot even when I am doing my anti-American trolling. I fucking hate the idea of open borders and free trade. It's become a GOP ideology because they are so pro business it hurts but it was not always the case.
They're kind of dumb. Does anyone imagine that our presidents are hosting a debating society in the White Hut? I was surprised at how brazen the GOP candidates were in promising a ground invasion of Syria and a second invasion of Iraq. How can they possibly think they can win the general election when the voters are so opposed to more Mideast wars? Only a 9/11-style attack could move the public to support the foreign policy of the Stain/Lieberman/Graham/Krauthammer and the other neocon belligerents. I'm not sure even another 9/11 could get the public on board for another Mideast war. They sound way too eager to find any pretext to invade the Mideast again.
Several of our founding fathers who were devoted Christians and who later became President did not seem to have a problem with the US Constitution. So not seeing a strong case for your point. The spirit of the American Revolution had its roots in the First Great Awakening. No holy wars ensued from that. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
For some reason my tablet no longer likes playing videos (even with a Flash Player update) even on YouTube. However, was able to view the above on the MSNBC site. Wow...She did not squirm or deflect and went right at it on Hardball. Which means it was not scripted and she knows what she is talking about. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Download the Penguin browser if on an android. Plays flash. You have to pay a one time fee though.
Thanks will give it a try. Went to the company help site and there is a message there that Adobe Flash no longer supports Android devices. I'm sure they will figure it out. If not, I know what's going on my birthday/Christmas list this year...an iPad:) "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Thanks will give it a try. Went to the company help site and there is a message there that Adobe Flash no longer supports Android devices. I'm sure they will figure it out. If not, I know what's going on my birthday/Christmas list this year...an iPad:) I wrote Penguin but it is Puffin. http://www.puffinbrowser.com/index.php What's new in Puffin 4 Puffin World, Smart Search Tags, Better Flash Player, and even faster speed. Plus existing amazing features: Download-to-Cloud feature, Theater mode for Flash videos and games, all new Color Themes, brand new User Interface, and Add-ons supports.
I think the biggest word I learned in HS was gonads!!
All 950 million Android devices can be compromised by sending a single invisible MMS message to corrupt the texting/photo feature. Various other exploits on Android are making it look like a terrible platform for security. /. sez: "We've already looked at the Stagefright vulnerability, discovered by Zimperium, and shown what can be done to deal with it. Affecting up to 95 percent of Android devices, the vulnerability has led to Google and Samsung announcing monthly security updates. Now the mobile security company has released additional details about how the exploit works. To help explain the vulnerability, a video has been produced which uses a Stagefright demonstration to illustrate it in action. Zimperium has also released an Android app that checks devices for the vulnerability." You can see a video demonstrating exactly how it can take over your phone invisibly. Zimperium has a free app to test if your Android device is vulnerable. My Galaxy S3 was vulnerable to the app (when I pretended to allow it to do what it wanted to do on my rooted custom-ROMmed S3). Otherwise, I have disabled MMS entirely a year back. I always suspected it. These kinds of horrible elementary exploits recall the IE6 scandal with the JPG, GIF and BMP format. You may recall your computer could get taken over by a malicious web JPG or BMP or GIF picture. Google and Samsung are so nervous they have finally committed to monthly security updates for all Android devices. Long long overdue. So you'll get patches now with newer devices and Google's own Nexus products getting the best and fastest patches. Older Androids won't benefit. But it's not just Android. ./ sez: "Security researcher Christopher Domas has demonstrated a method of installing a rootkit in a PC's firmware that exploits a feature built into every x86 chip manufactured since 1997. The rootkit infects the processor's System Management Mode, and could be used to wipe the UEFI or even to re-infect the OS after a clean install. Protection features like Secure Boot wouldnt help, because they too rely on the SMM to be secure." So every Windows (and Mac and Linux x86) machine is vulnerable to a rootkit attack that can survive reboots and even formatting your system drive. A couple of very serious Mac vulnerabilities against root takeover have also surfaced in the last few weeks. So security is terrible across the board. Now, do I actually need to discuss whether using an obscure third-party browser with a roll-yer-own version of Adobe Flash player is a good idea? You'd be surprised how many techies, celebs and top corporate players are going back to dumb flip phones and dumping their smartphones. BTW, you might check on those iPads/iPhones before you buy one for Flash. They don't like Flash either. However, Apple does have a pretty solid YouTube client but you can't just run any old Flash website on Apple's devices. And few people want to because Flash is just so vulnerable. That's why you have to update it every week. Much like WinXP, you just can't fix it technically.
More security info just in the last 24 hours. Things are moving very fast in security threats now. Firefox responded to a major threat in under 24 hours. What about your car and home? A rare bit of good news. Israelis says they can protect any Windows machine from zero-day exploits, an astonishing claim. It appears this is some kind of Windows clone.
I would love to see a real debate. You're right - these things we look at every election cycle are NOT debates. While it probably wouldn't have worked last night - too many players - a real debate where the candidates challenge each other (with little moderator interruption) would be revealing and educational. It would work with 2 or 3 candidates. I would have loved to be at one of the Lincoln/Douglas debates. I wonder if they could have dumbed it down to the point where it would have made for good TV, though
I would love to see a real debate. You're right - these things we look at every election cycle are NOT debates. I think debates are a hold over from earlier times - I mean real debates like in college. The earliest elections did not have the actual candidate campaigning because it was seen as too unseemly. You had surrogates do that for the candidate. It was bad form to praise yourself and say you are better than the other guy. We are entering a more crass phase of election styles.
It boggles me this security feature is still not fixed. Is it because Windows needs a backdoor into your copy.
LOL. I think they $1,000 word I learned in sophmore year was 'lugubrious.' Had a hard time working that one in for general conversation down the road:) "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
You could do an afternoon debate, ask serious policy questions, have a formal debate system, let pairs face off with a main argument on a topic and then pepper each other with questions. The only problem is that lawyers would excel. And Ted Cruz would demonstrate why he was a Princeton/Harvard debate champ. But would it make him a better president. Our presidents are elected to act on their own judgment, not to debate the cabinet on policy. This is why presidents don't debate the cabinet. They set policy and tell the cabinet to implement it.
True.
Somebody from middle America who's registered with a Methodist Church, believes in God, and runs a Bible Study?
Which is why Trump is my guy. His instincts seem right, and he really doesn't care if he offends people.
Yikes!
"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Given your background, I can see why you might think that formal debating skills shouldn't be the primary means of selecting a prez. : )
I actually am kind of cowering and shielding my eyes from shocking news bits when I visit ./ or Ars Technica these days. Lots of bad tech news, very little good tech news.
Was really surprised the Clinton News Network (CNN) reported this on their website:
"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
A Fox spokeswoman confirmed the problems and said "an unprecedented, overwhelming demand caused server issues in the debate live stream." The above may explain why some folks had issues streaming the video last night of the debate. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
They're green with envy over the ratings. I think they're worried that the RNC might just cancel the libmedia GOP primary debates entirely. They already dumped Candy Crowley, a hasty forced retirement. I think Reince Priebus had some words with them.
That EU server I posted the link to worked but it took a long long time to negotiate a connection to the servers. It was being hammered, not just in the States but worldwide. There is intense interest in whether the GOP might field a candidate that can defeat Hitlery. A lot of people who don't want another helping of what Obama has dished out for 8 years. Not that they love the GOP, they just don't like what America has been doing.
Maybe, but I certainly always enjoy watching anyone slapping Chris Matthews around!
Si vis pacem, para bellum
Yes. That is exactly what they do on a daily basis. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
The fact that they helped write it and grew up in a period when claiming to be a True Believer was pretty much mandatory may have had something to do with that. So not seeing a strong case for your point. Of course not,although I suspect you would if the nominee were a Muslim. Or even a Quaker or a Mormon. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
True. And there is nothing wrong with that as long as they aren't the President of the United States. Although to be completely honest I have a serious problem with Catholics that owe their first allegiance to Rome,and Jews who owe their first allegiance to Israel. IMHO,if Rome and Israel are that important to you,you need to man the bleep up and move you ass to same zip code your heart occupies. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Or even a Quaker or a Mormon. Well cross off Mormon. I stated on LP that Romney's religion would not influence my decision to vote or not vote for him. Muslim? Your right I did not vote for the Muslim presidential candidate and settled for the Mormon in 2012. Plus unlike our American Christian tradition, Islam is inherently political from its inception. Finally, we already had a Quaker President: Nixon was a Quaker. Nixon’s mother, Hannah, was a devout Quaker who instilled the faith in her husband and children. After the failure of his father’s lemon grove in Yorba Linda, California, Nixon moved with the family in 1922 to the nearby Quaker community of Whittier, which was named after one of America’s most eminent Quakers, the poet John Greenleaf Whittier. As a boy, Nixon went to Quaker meetings four times on Sundays and played the piano at church services. He enrolled at Whittier College, a Quaker institution, and attended mandatory chapel hours every day. http://www.history.com/news/10-things-you-may-not-know-about- richard-nixon "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
I miss church. I wish I had more time.
My girlfriend watched it and said that she was utterly
Jesus is God. God owns the whole world, and every person in it. He is the King, all humans are his subjects. Those who refuse to recognize his sovereign rule are rebellious subjects. He tolerates their existence. The religion of Jesus is universal; its adherents span every land, and all of the land belongs to God. Which means that every acre of land on earth is under the jurisdiction of God. The Catholic Church is God's Church on earth. The Holy Spirit was breathed into it, and lives there. Therefore, the moral jurisdiction of the Catholic Church, as God's One True Faith, properly extends over every human on earth, and over every acre of soil. Therefore, there is no "manning up" and moving to Rome. Every zip code on earth properly belongs to us. Through conversion and settlement the people of God seek to people the whole world and subdue her. Wherever we are, it all belongs to us. Where nations and cultures have erected idols that oppose God, it is our job to peacefully undermine those idols, to replace them with truth, and to fill up those lands. This takes time, and we have until the end of it. Dripping hollows out rock. So, there will be no moving. It's all ours, and in the end, our King will rule it all. And until he comes, we will be steadily pressing his borders outward, among the realms of men, and inward, in their hearts. Rome merely happens to be where the HQ tent is currently pitched. But the whole world belongs to God, and therefore I'm not conceding any of it. And particularly not my native land. We are not leaving. We are taking it over. Demographics say that the Catholics will prevail. So, I've heard your request for me to leave. But I prefer to stay and conquer.
We had TWO Quaker Presidents: Richard Nixon and Herbert Hoover.
A transcript of all the Lincoln-Douglas debates is available in the Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln, Volume 3. An searchable online version is available at the University of Michigan. It would have to be sanitized or bleeped. Lincoln - Douglas First Debate, August 21, 1858, CW 3:1-37 Lincoln - Douglas Second Debate, August 27, 1858, CW 3:38-76 Lincoln - Douglas Third Debate, September 15, 1858, CW 3:102-144 Lincoln - Douglas Fourth Debate, September 18, 1858, CW 3:145-201 Lincoln - Douglas Fifth Debate, October 7, 1858, CW 3:207-244 Lincoln - Douglas Sixth Debate, 13 October 1858, CW 3:245-283 Lincoln - Douglas Seventh Debate, October 15, 1858, CW 3:283-325
Both are chicken sh*t thinks to do if you did vie for the nomination and lost. And for all the whining over Ron Paul not endorsing the Stain or Romney, do you think it would have made any difference? Of course not. Wrongo. There are things such as character, integrity, honor, decency, etc. that do matter very much - at least in my book. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
He refused to say that he would support the REP nominee if it wasn't him. That's chicken sh*t then, now and always. Ahhh yes support the nimrod that the establishment nominates, where has that thought process gotten this country in the last 80 years?? Then why run for the nomination at all if you don't like the nimrods running it? Have some integrity, honesty, character, conjones, etc. and run 3rd party right off. Don't be a cry baby take my ball home asshole because you didn't win then pretend that it wasn't all that important to you because you really didn't want to be a member of that club anyhow. Chicken sh*t is as chicken sh*t does. And Trump is pure chicken sh*t. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Lots of folks are on the Trump band wagon. It reminds me of the Perot phenomenon. I'm watching and am careful not to attack those who are supportive of him. p.s. I share your thoughts on him.
Ditto Obama. How do you like them apples? потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
I have to disagree with that one. Anyone even remotely familiar with the history of the Catholic Church knows that for hundreds of years it functioned as a arm of government everywhere it planted roots. They even had their own courts and their own sentencing for anyone they accused of committing religious crimes. In fact,not too long ago they were still playing these brutal games in Ireland. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Therefore, there is no "manning up" and moving to Rome. Every zip code on earth properly belongs to us. Through conversion and settlement the people of God seek to people the whole world and subdue her. Uh,huh. And the difference between fundie Catholics like you and fundie Muslims is you spell "Sharia Law" differently? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Because a valid case can be made that we haven't had an actual Republican Presidential nominee since Reagan. They have all be Dims in Republican clothing. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
It reminds me of the Perot phenomenon. Trump is Perot without all the class business acumen. Perot actually created new businesses that put people to work. All Trump has ever done was bankrupt companies and put people out of work as he makes his money selling the bones. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
And the difference between fundie Catholics like you and fundie Muslims is you spell "Sharia Law" differently? No. The difference is that the content of our moral code is quite different. Their Allah permits them to marry multiple women and to beat them to keep them in line. Our Jesus permits us to marry only one, for life, as our helper and lover. Their Allah demands that they make war on all of the infidels unto the end of the world. Our Jesus commands us to be peaceful and turn the other cheek. Their Allah permits them to lie in order to advance their cause, because deception is legitimate in war, and they are always at war until the whole world is Muslim. Our Jesus commands us not to lie. Their Allah and our Jesus demand everything of us - in that sense the Muslim and the Christian are parallel. But precisely WHAT Allah demands and WHAT Jesus demands is what makes all of the difference. The Third Reich and the USA both had governments. They both had leaders, budgets and police forces. In that sense, they were very similar. But the content of their respective laws as different, and that made all the difference.
Maybe,but nobody listens,or there wouldn't have been a war with the Protestants that lasted several hundred years. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
No maybe to it. She was fired from Hewlett Packard because of incompetence. She looked te part and playacted the part, but was a disaster.
Honor and decency? You're talking about endorsing the Stain.
OK Robert, I take your word for it. Until now, I knew nothing about her, only her name and the fact that she was part of a high tech company. That was the extent of my knowledge about her. But I still liked her giving Chrissy Mathews some shit!
Si vis pacem, para bellum
Few listen. That's true. It's the tragedy of our race.
Wrongo. There are things such as character, integrity, honor, decency, etc. that do matter very much - at least in my book. Honor and decency? You're talking about endorsing the Stain. If Stain was good enough for you to be included as a front runner in the party that you wanted to win over, yes honor and decency. If the Wizard had a problem with McCain or any of the front runners in the REP Party WTF is doing running in that party other than to use the party to gain national visibility and the money that comes with that? потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Then why run for the nomination at all if you don't like the nimrods running it? Have some integrity, honesty, character, conjones, etc. and run 3rd party right off. Because a valid case can be made that we haven't had an actual Republican Presidential nominee since Reagan. They have all be Dims in Republican clothing. So run 3rd Party right off. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
That's what she is counting on. If you're not familiar with HP, their history, and haven't used their equipment, it's easy for her to strut into a room, announce she was a former CEO and pull the wool over people's eyes.
Why? Why not run as an actual Republican since no one else is? Let THEM run for a 3rd party seat. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Very correct with a minor caveat; they should be running on the Democrat ticket, it makes more sense.
How so? He's opposed to illegal immigration (and the only one on the Republican side willing to make a point of it). He favors a common market in health insurance - a market-based solution to an insurance crisis. That's better than either party has come up with to date. He talks as tough on ISIS as any Republican. He believes in business. What makes Donald Trump a Democrat? And why should a Republican like him get out of the way of those other weak sister losers up on stage with him? Donald Trump is a winner. Always has been. He's charismatic and can lead people. And does. So what is it about that that makes him not a Republican? Oh, wait, he's a winner, not a loser, he's charismatic and can lead people. Yeah, that's definitely not the Republican style.
All republicans love illegal aliens. That is why America has NAFTA and CAFTA which has created the almost 50,000,000 illegal alien immigration march into the USA. What the political punks have done is simple to explain: beg to be a Democrat to further weaken America's borders while inviting illegal aliens to vote. And, do not enforce the existing laws.
His love for the Democratic Party; it is called donations to the tune of millions of dollars.
Go! I'm sure there is some Eastern Orthodox church near you.
"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Ah yes. You are correct sir.
"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
They even had their own courts and their own sentencing for anyone they accused of committing religious crimes. In fact,not too long ago they were still playing these brutal games in Ireland. But not in the USA. "Popery" was kept in check here in the USA. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
I just saw Carly Fiorina on Chris Matthews. She is very sharp. I like her.
I meant doing more than services - like being around the church all the time. The church was my day care up to the 6th grade.
Maybe,but nobody listens,or there wouldn't have been a war with the Protestants that lasted several hundred years. Ummm I don't think it has ever stopped, the Catholics and self appointed ruling class want to keep their power. http://www.talk2action.org/story/2013/6/2/21262/88725/Front_Page/The_NeoCon_War_ Against_the_Mainline_Protestant_Churches_Continues He wasn't good enough it was only his turn. Maybe trying to do what a large portion of the population of this country want, to take back the party from all the faux conservatives... So are a lot of people in Ohio but they don't outnumber those wanting a handout so he got re-elected. It was a big issue in the early post-colonial period. Preachers like Increase Mather often inveighed against the papist hordes of Canada and the threat they posed. America has been a paranoid country from the get-go.
I recall he won 76 of 78 counties in the state. Far more popular than Perry was in Texas in his last election or Walker in WI or Jindal in LA or Bush in his last election in FL. Not that I like Kasich. But we'll hear arguments on electability with Bush (or Rubio) to carry FL and Kasich to carry OH as VP. With the Dems having an automatic vote of 240+ EC votes and the GOP in the range of 180, FL and OH (and TX) are must-win for the GOP to win the WH.
I recall he won 76 of 78 counties in the state. http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/12/ohios-kasich-ignores-legislature-on-obamacare- medicaid-funds/ Squishy as he is, Kasich is pretty popular in OH. Not easy for recent governors of either party. Kasich is closer to a moderate Dim than a conservative Republican overall. He has reformed OH to some extent, largely because it was so grossly mismanaged previously and the legislature acquiesced to Kasich, knowing they could blame him if it went south on him. As with Romney and Christie, I am a little suspicious of Republican governors hired to clean up after a liberal state has totally screwed up their state. You notice that these "fixers" leave office unpopular (Romney, Christie, Jindal, Huckabee even) and they take the hits to get necessary things done and the state's libs use the newly solvent finances of the state to embark on their next liberal spending spree. Then you have other GOP governors like Walker or Mitch Daniels who fought tough battles, reformed a mismanaged liberal state and actually grew the GOP voter base in that state and influenced other states. These are a much more effective kind of GOP pol IMO.
And thank goodness for that! The Catholic Church and The Reformation were why the Founding Fathers insisted on Freedom of Religion,and that includes freedom FROM religion. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
A AA version of Trump in a dress,but to give her credit,she probably is smarter than him. She was running HP into bankruptcy and they had to buy her out early to save the company. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
True,but at least the world has stopped them from having their own courts and boiled people to death in pots of oil. They even wore their crap out in Ireland,and I never thought I would live to see the day that happened. Now their strategy seems to be to take over the world using 3rd world immigrants to bankrupt governments,or in the case of the US flood us with 3rd world Catholics and take over by putting them on the dole and and getting voter cards for them. The Dims used welfare as a method to enslave the blacks,and now the Catholics are going to use welfare to enslave the browns so they vote for pro-Catholic candidates. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
He wasn't good enough it was only his turn. I believe we have now devolved into a One Party Nation,and the ruling class keep that a secret from the drones by making sure each branch of the ruling party gets it's turn in the WH. The Dims have had it for 8 years now,so the next president will be an alleged Republican,regardless of who the nominee ends up being. And the new president will be just one more in a long string go globalists that is no more Republican or Conservative than your pet dog. It's just a shell game. McLunatic got picked to run because he was certain to lose. Everytime Palin fell off-program and started to talk conservative his poll numbers went up,and she had to be slapped back into line again lest he actually win. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
With good reason. The people that founded this nation didn't come here because they had nothing better to do. They came her to get out of Europe and out from under the thumbs of the national churches. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Sure. But we're paranoid even when we have no reason to be. Like a herd of easily spooked heifers. And we like to think that anything that even remotely alarms us automatically justifies doing anything to other countries. Like the invasion of Iraq after 9/11. No connection between Saddam and 9/11 but the country was easily stampeded into it.
There is ALWAYS a need to be paranoid because there IS always someone out to get you if you let your guard down. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
She was running HP into bankruptcy and they had to buy her out early to save the company. She's not smarter than him. He runs a multibillion dollar company, successfully. She ran a big company into the ground. She's a flash in the pan. The only reason anybody really paid attention to her is because she's a girl. But she's a prissy girl with a big imagination. Trump talks about giving Kelley a bloody nose, and Fionrina's mind goes right for her cunt. We don't need to empower that sort of woman any more than we already have. Always aggrieved, always a bitch, always sharp tongued, and almost always wrong, almost always ascribing motives that aren't there, and making up shit men didn't say in order to try to manipulate them. She's a useless failure as an executive, and when she hears about a bloody nose, she goes on the rag. She's a pussy - screw her. (Oh, and now she's thinking about rape. No. Screw her as in "FUCK YOU", which - just to be clear for the pantywaist diaper babies who wet themselves at straw language, had not a thing to do with either sex, or rape.
So they could found their OWN national church right here, and execute people for witchcraft and other snake-handling buffoonery. That sort of idiot NEEDED to be religiously repressed and kept from speaking things and running their own churches, because when they did, they proved as nuts as they sounded and started killing people left and right. The Virginians were just here to make money. That was never about religion. Ditto for South Carolina. Ditto for New Netherland. New England was about religious fanaticism. Pennsylvania was about a peaceful form of it that's sort of silly but relatively harmless. After all, Nixon was a Quaker...
We understand you are a Catholic and don't like "girls who don't know their place." Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Really? What church would that be,and why haven't I ever heard of it? and execute people for witchcraft and other snake-handling buffoonery. Sounds to me like you are thinking of the Catholics. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
That is true. I don't. When women run things, it's always a fucking disaster.
and execute people for witchcraft and other snake-handling buffoonery. Sounds to me like you are thinking of the Catholics. Puritans. All of New England. Salem Witch trials. Whipping and hanging Quakers for being Quaker. Seeking the lives of Anne Hutchinson and the Founder of RHode Island. That's how Rhode Island got there; Protestants fleeling from Protestant religious oppressions. That's how Puritan New England got there: Protestants fleeing from Protestant religious oppression in England, and setting up their own over here. That's how Pennsylvania got there: Quaker Protestants fleeing the oppression of QUakers by English and German Protestants. It's how the Scotch Irish got their: Scottish Presbyterians fleeing bad treatment at the hands of the English Anglican Establishment (both religious and economic mistreatment). That's how the Virginia Cavaliers got there: Church of England types fleeing Puritan oppression in England once the Puritans won their civil war over there. England was not a Catholic country when they founded their colonies. They were Protestant, and they enforced brutal conformity laws on other Protestants. English America from Virginia northwards, filled up with religious refugees fleeing oppression by other English Protestants. The Catholics had been gone from English governance and social life for nearly a hundred years by that point. The only Catholics around in the British isles in any number were the Irish, and they were being murdered everywhere by the Presbyterians and then the Puritans, and just generally treated like shit by the English Anglican establishment. When the Irish Catholics came to America, THEY were ALSO fleeing religious oppression - by Protestants. English-speaking America is chock full of people who originated fleeing PROTESTANT ENGLISH and PROTESTANT GERMAN religious oppression. Catholic Oppression occurred mostly on the Continent, and those Protestants who fled it simply fled to other Protestant countries in Europe. They didn't come to America, except for French Huguenots, like some of my ancestors.
Puritans didn't found this country. They were just a cult that moved into the northeast. All of New England. Still pretty much a shit hole ran by a cult. This one is named Communism. Protestants fleeing from Protestant religious oppression in England, and setting up their own over here. Yup,the Church of England. Thanks for helping me make my point about oppressive religions and political power. England was not a Catholic country when they founded their colonies. So what? They had just overthrown the Catholic Church a few short years earlier,and their new officlal religion was ran by people who grew up Catholic and that was the only way they knew to run a church. Catholic Oppression occurred mostly on the Continent, Not true. It occurred everywhere a Catholic Church existed EXCEPT for America,and you tried and are still trying here to this very day. Look at the horrors the Catholics infliced on the peoples living in South American,Central America,and the Carribean Islands for examples of this. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
You are obsessed with fear of the Catholic Church. The future holds the sum of all of your fears, for the American Protestants, the WASPs, are dying out, and being replaced in this land by Latin Catholics. I hope you're old, because the day is coming when Catholics will predominate in this country. We've already changed the structure. it was Catholic votes, FDR's urban coalitions, that pressed through Social Security and Unemployment Benefits. We've been winning for a century. We're going to win it all in the end. And things will be better for everybody when that happens.
Nope,but since you are,I can see why you would think I am. What I AM obsessed with is personal freedoms,and personal freedoms are the enemy of all organized religions. The Catholic Church has been around longer than most of the others,and has a more documented history of abuse of power and brutality. the American Protestants, the WASPs, are dying out, and being replaced in this land by Latin Catholics. Admit it,it gives you wood to think that,doesn't it? And what sane person WOULDN'T be upset over their country being taken over by a mass of illiterate superstitious peasants with no knowledge whatsoever of our culture or history,and no interest in learning about them? I hope you're old, because the day is coming when Catholics will predominate in this country. We've already changed the structure. it was Catholic votes, FDR's urban coalitions, that pressed through Social Security and Unemployment Benefits. We've been winning for a century. We're going to win it all in the end. And things will be better for everybody when that happens. You just love being a slave,and can't wait for everyone else to be enslaved also. You are also clearly insane. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I'm simply right.
I'm simply right. See? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
He has the same problem in France with all the Muzzies they let in, won't be long and it will be known as a Western Province of the Middle Eastern Caliphate. You know maybe that's the reason he's here instead of being there?? Moved out to get away from the results of their stupid ideology but insisting it is adopted here. Kinda like those from any Leftard Ghetto moving to Texas... Nope, but since you are,I can see why you would think I am. He's sounding more and more like Meguro with every post. Guess he hasn't figured out yet that you can't hide the truth using that tactic, it just doesn't work with some people... Chances are he is here to push for illegal immigrants because he sees it as a quick route to returning the evil bastards that run the Catholic Church to power. He cares about nothing other than what is good for "Holy Mother Church". And people still wonder why I am opposed to religion in government and power for fundies of any stripe. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
You can NOT be a devout Christian of any stripe without being a leftist. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Time will tell, but, I am convinced that Donald Trump is the real thing, that he has every reason to see the nation return to capitalism.
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Ah oh - Walker flip-flopper.
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Cruz is probably the smartest guy in the room. Too bad he'll never be elected POTUS
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Cruz is the 2nd smartest - forgot Ben Carson
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Rand Paul attacking Trump for not pledging to support the REP nominee if not Trump or not pledging not to run 3rd party if Trump doesn't get the nomination. Really? I wonder if he has ever talked with his Dad about this, the Wizard Paul.
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Scott Walker is looking good.
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Donald's still standing.
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Kasich - big government republican. Strike 3 - he's outta there.
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He got hit between the eyes with a 2x4 in the very first question. And he wasn't ready for the one question he had to know they would ask.
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Huckabee isn't doing to bad either.
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He could have definitely answered it better.
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Huckabee isn't doing to bad either.
#37. To: TooConservative (#36)
#38. To: Fred Mertz (#37)
(Edited)
I saw Rubio in the warm-up a few days ago.
#39. To: GrandIsland, Fred Mertz (#31)
#40. To: Rufus T Firefly (#0)
#41. To: jeremiad (#40)
#42. To: TooConservative (#22)
Nor did he run third-party when he could have after he lost the 2008 and the 2012 nomination fight, even though he was widely urged to do so and both LP and CP were ready to dual-nominate him.
#43. To: A K A Stone (#8)
Paul is crossed off my list. He comes across as a creepy asshole.
#44. To: Rufus T Firefly (#14)
Cruz is the 2nd smartest - forgot Ben Carson
#45. To: Fred Mertz (#24)
It ain't on my local Fox affiliate. I was dying to see it.
#46. To: Stoner (#41)
#47. To: Rufus T Firefly (#0)
#48. To: TooConservative (#3)
#49. To: nolu chan (#47)
#50. To: SOSO (#42)
He refused to say that he would support the REP nominee if it wasn't him. That's chicken sh*t then, now and always.
#51. To: redleghunter (#48)
JEB played it safe and looked uncomfortable when stating things he did not believe. Does that make sense:)
I missed the earlier debate. Was that on PMSNBC?
#52. To: Rufus T Firefly (#6)
#53. To: A K A Stone (#8)
#54. To: TooConservative, liberator, tomder55, CZ82 (#27)
#55. To: Rufus T Firefly, TooConservative, A K A Stone (#32)
#56. To: nolu chan (#47)
(Edited)
**DRUDGE POLL** WHO WON THE FIRST REPUBLICAN DEBATE '16?
#57. To: TooConservative (#36)
#58. To: sneakypete (#44)
Ben Carson would be at or near the top of my list if he weren't a True Believer Fundie. I just can't vote to make someone president that believes in magic and miracles.
#59. To: redleghunter (#55)
One was that the moderators wouldn't be talking about illegal immigration if he did not make a stink about it. He's right.
#60. To: TooConservative (#51)
On FNC at 4pm CST in the same hall.
#61. To: redleghunter (#57)
Walker is going bald too early in his political career. He won't survive SNL in the general election:)
#62. To: TooConservative (#59)
#63. To: redleghunter (#60)
I thought someone said Chris Matthews was a moderator at that one.
#64. To: redleghunter (#54)
Mrs. RLH crossed off Jeb after she heard his name mentioned along with common core.
#65. To: redleghunter (#49)
#66. To: TooConservative (#63)
#67. To: nolu chan (#66)
#68. To: nolu chan (#65)
She scooped up over 80% of the first place votes.
#69. To: redleghunter (#58)
Cross them all off the list Pete. They are all Christians who believe in Christ and His miracles.
#70. To: TooConservative (#59)
Trump was thrown way off his game. He was sputtering, almost incoherent by the time he gave his closing.
#71. To: TooConservative (#63)
#72. To: redleghunter, all (#48)
I missed the earlier debate.
#73. To: TooConservative (#64)
His wooden rote answers sounded weak. It was one of the few moments where I thought Bush seemed remarkably lifelike. Otherwise, a robotic corpse.
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#74. To: SOSO, Too Conservative, Liberator, redleghunter (#42)
He refused to say that he would support the REP nominee if it wasn't him. That's chicken sh*t then, now and always.
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#75. To: redleghunter (#49)
somnolent.
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#76. To: CZ82 (#74)
where has that thought process gotten this country in the last 80 years??
#77. To: TooConservative (#63)
" Carly Fiorina . . . went on Matthews' show and tore him to shreds "
#78. To: tomder55 (#72)
Missed the main event . Carly Fiorina showed that she had a strong command of foreign policy as well as economic issues ,and that she belongs at the adult table .
#79. To: redleghunter (#58)
There's always Hitlery. She's not a "fundy.":)
#80. To: nolu chan (#65)
I thought Cruz, Kasich and Walker did ok. I thought Rubio would do better. Jeb and Rubio seemed too scripted. Christie and Paul did not help each other, and Paul should have left Trump alone. Carson had a good closing. Huckabee had some good laugh lines.
#81. To: sneakypete (#69)
That even smart people can be wrong?
#82. To: CZ82 (#75)
somnolent.
#83. To: Vicomte13, TooConservative, GarySpFc, liberator (#79)
She's a staunch Methodist and a believer who has a Bible Study circle.
#84. To: A K A Stone (#8)
#85. To: Rufus T Firefly (#9)
Now Kasich is trying to ride Trump's coattails
#86. To: BobCeleste (#85)
What he doesn't understand is that under a President Trump, there will be no cushy cabinet post.
#87. To: redleghunter (#81)
That even smart people can be wrong?
#88. To: TooConservative (#29)
(Edited)
#89. To: redleghunter (#83)
Pete will have to cross her of his list too.
#90. To: Rufus T Firefly (#86)
But Xlinton will be looking for some so-called republicans to fill her regime.
#91. To: Stoner (#77)
" Carly Fiorina . . . went on Matthews' show and tore him to shreds "
#92. To: Pericles (#88)
Chris Christie's support for the Patriot Act and mentioning 9/10 and 9/11 over and over made me sick. I fucking hate Republicans invoking 9/11 after the shit those morons did under retard Bush. Paul had it right - get a warrant from a judge you fat piece of shit. Paul seemed combative but that is not his strength.
#93. To: TooConservative (#92)
#94. To: Pericles (#93)
(Edited)
Debates never sway me because I am political junkie and already have my mind made up unless the person is a drooling idiot on stage.
#95. To: sneakypete, GarySpFc, tomder55 (#87)
I also don't want a "True Believer" in anything but the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights sitting in the WH,and will NOT vote for one because a True Believer will put his religious beliefs ahead of everything else,and that is the kind of crap that leads to religious slavery and Holy Wars.
#96. To: TooConservative (#63)
#97. To: redleghunter (#96)
For some reason my tablet no longer likes playing videos (even with a Flash Player update) even on YouTube. However, was able to view the above on the MSNBC site.
#98. To: Pericles, TooConservative (#97)
Download the Penguin browser if on an android. Plays flash. You have to pay a one time fee though.
#99. To: redleghunter, TooConservative (#98)
Download the Penguin browser if on an android. Plays flash. You have to pay a one time fee though.
#100. To: redleghunter (#82)
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#101. To: redleghunter, Pericles (#98)
(Edited)
Went to the company help site and there is a message there that Adobe Flash no longer supports Android devices. I'm sure they will figure it out. If not, I know what's going on my birthday/Christmas list this year...an iPad:)
#102. To: Pericles, redleghunter (#99)
Thursday night Mozilla released a Firefox security patch after finding a serious vulnerability that allows malicious attackers to upload files from a user's computer. The update was released about 24 hours after Mozilla learned of the flaw. In a blog post, Mozilla said, "a Firefox user informed us that an advertisement on a news site in Russia was serving a Firefox exploit that searched for sensitive files and uploaded them to a server that appears to be in Ukraine. This morning Mozilla released security updates that fix the vulnerability. All Firefox users are urged to update to Firefox 39.0.3. The fix has also been shipped in Firefox ESR 38.1.1." Samy Kamkar has built a new device called Rolljam that is about the size of a wallet and can intercept the codes used to unlock most cars and many garage doors. The device can be hidden underneath a vehicle and when the owner approaches and hits the unlock button on her key or remote, the device grabs the unique code sent by the remote and stores it for later use. The device takes advantage of an issue with the way that vehicles that use rolling codes for unlocking produce and receive those codes. Kamkar said that the device works on most vehicles and garage doors that use rolling, rather than fixed codes.
I'm almost afraid to read the tech news any more for fear of finding out about yet another major security hole in my equipment and software.
Sounds too good to be true, but Morphisec, an Israeli startup, claims to have built an unhackable version of Windows. Its not yet publicly available, a red flag if ever I saw one, but internal testing has had a 100% success rate: "In a statement for BI, Dudu Mimran, the co-founder of the company, describes this new OS version as the Windows that 'Microsoft should be doing,' explaining that, while the platform was initially designed for government use, it can be actually installed by any enterprise that wants to make sure that no hack is possible. Basically, this operating can block any zero-day attack, the founder says, thanks to the operating system randomizing all memory, which means that the hacker cannot target the computer memory and compromise the data stored on the drives."
What things memory randomization does not fix, left as an exercise for the reader.
#103. To: Pericles (#88)
Also, why are we calling these debates "debates" - they are question and answer sessions.
#104. To: Rufus T Firefly (#103)
Also, why are we calling these debates "debates" - they are question and answer sessions.
#105. To: TooConservative (#102)
#106. To: CZ82 (#100)
(Edited)
#107. To: Rufus T Firefly (#103)
While it probably wouldn't have worked last night - too many players - a real debate where the candidates challenge each other (with little moderator interruption) would be revealing and educational.
#108. To: sneakypete (#87)
a True Believer will put his religious beliefs ahead of everything else,
#109. To: redleghunter (#83)
What exactly is a 'staunch" Methodist these days?
#110. To: TooConservative (#107)
The only problem is that lawyers would excel. And Ted Cruz would demonstrate why he was a Princeton/Harvard debate champ. But would it make him a better president. Our presidents are elected to act on their own judgment, not to debate the cabinet on policy. This is why presidents don't debate the cabinet. They set policy and tell the cabinet to implement it.
#111. To: TooConservative (#102)
#112. To: Vicomte13 (#110)
Which is why Trump is my guy. His instincts seem right, and he really doesn't care if he offends people.
#113. To: redleghunter (#111)
Which is why Trump is my guy. His instincts seem right, and he really doesn't care if he offends people.
#114. To: TooConservative, *2016 The Likely Suspects* (#113)
#115. To: TooConservative, Fred Mertz (#114)
Fox made the debate available online to cable and satellite subscribers, but many users on Twitter said they had a tough time accessing it.
#116. To: redleghunter (#114)
Was really surprised the Clinton News Network (CNN) reported this on their website:
#117. To: redleghunter (#115)
#118. To: rlk (#91)
#119. To: TooConservative (#94)
Does anyone imagine that our presidents are hosting a debating society in the White Hut?
#120. To: redleghunter (#95)
Several of our founding fathers who were devoted Christians and who later became President did not seem to have a problem with the US Constitution.
#121. To: Vicomte13 (#108)
a True Believer will put his religious beliefs ahead of everything else,
#122. To: sneakypete (#120)
Of course not,although I suspect you would if the nominee were a Muslim.
#123. To: redleghunter (#122)
#124. To: Rufus T Firefly (#0)
You can post thoughts here...
disgusted by Kasich, the Ohio Governor. I don't know why.
I didn't waste my time watching any of the circus.
Actually, immediately after dinner I fell asleep.
So there are my thoughts and opinions...
#125. To: sneakypete (#121)
IMHO,if Rome and Israel are that important to you,you need to man the bleep up and move you ass to same zip code your heart occupies.
#126. To: redleghunter (#122)
#127. To: Rufus T Firefly, Pericles (#103)
I would have loved to be at one of the Lincoln/Douglas debates. I wonder if they could have dumbed it down to the point where it would have made for good TV, though
#128. To: TooConservative (#50)
Not endorsing your party's nominee is not the same as running third party after participating in a party's nomination process.
#129. To: CZ82 (#74)
#130. To: SOSO (#129)
Chicken sh*t is as chicken sh*t does. And Trump is pure chicken sh*t.
#131. To: Fred Mertz (#130)
Lots of folks are on the Trump band wagon.
#132. To: redleghunter (#122)
Plus unlike our American Christian tradition, Islam is inherently political from its inception.
#133. To: Vicomte13 (#125)
Therefore, the moral jurisdiction of the Catholic Church, as God's One True Faith, properly extends over every human on earth, and over every acre of soil.
#134. To: SOSO, CZ82 (#129)
Then why run for the nomination at all if you don't like the nimrods running it? Have some integrity, honesty, character, conjones, etc. and run 3rd party right off.
#135. To: Fred Mertz, SOSO (#130)
Lots of folks are on the Trump band wagon.
#136. To: sneakypete (#133)
Uh,huh.
#137. To: Vicomte13 (#136)
Our Jesus commands us to be peaceful and turn the other cheek.
#138. To: Stoner (#118)
Maybe, but I certainly always enjoy watching anyone slapping Chris Matthews around!
#139. To: SOSO (#128)
(Edited)
Wrongo. There are things such as character, integrity, honor, decency, etc. that do matter very much - at least in my book.
#140. To: rlk (#138)
#141. To: sneakypete (#137)
Maybe,but nobody listens,or there wouldn't have been a war with the Protestants that lasted several hundred years.
#142. To: TooConservative (#139)
#143. To: sneakypete, CZ82 (#134)
#144. To: Stoner (#140)
Until now, I knew nothing about her, only her name and the fact that she was part of a high tech company. That was the extent of my knowledge about her.
#145. To: SOSO (#143)
So run 3rd Party right off.
#146. To: sneakypete (#145)
Why? Why not run as an actual Republican since no one else is? Let THEM run for a 3rd party seat.
#147. To: buckeroo (#146)
Very correct with a minor caveat; they should be running on the Democrat ticket, it makes more sense.
#148. To: Vicomte13 (#147)
#149. To: Vicomte13 (#147)
What makes Donald Trump a Democrat?
#150. To: Pericles (#123)
#151. To: Vicomte13 (#126)
#152. To: sneakypete, TooConservative (#132)
I have to disagree with that one. Anyone even remotely familiar with the history of the Catholic Church knows that for hundreds of years it functioned as a arm of government everywhere it planted roots.
#153. To: TooConservative (#63)
#154. To: redleghunter (#150)
(Edited)
Go! I'm sure there is some Eastern Orthodox church near you.
#155. To: sneakypete (#137)
Our Jesus commands us to be peaceful and turn the other cheek.
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#156. To: SOSO (#142)
If Stain was good enough for you to be included as a front runner in the party that you wanted to win over, yes honor and decency.
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#157. To: SOSO (#142)
WTF is doing running in that party other than to use the party to gain national visibility and the money that comes with that?
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#158. To: Chuck_Wagon (#124)
My girlfriend watched it and said that she was utterly disgusted by Kasich, the Ohio Governor.
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#159. To: redleghunter (#152)
But not in the USA. "Popery" was kept in check here in the USA.
#160. To: CZ82 (#158)
(Edited)
So are a lot of people in Ohio but they don't outnumber those wanting a handout so he got re-elected.
#161. To: TooConservative (#160)
So are a lot of people in Ohio but they don't outnumber those wanting a handout so he got re-elected.
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#162. To: CZ82 (#161)
#163. To: redleghunter (#152)
But not in the USA. "Popery" was kept in check here in the USA.
#164. To: Vicomte13 (#153)
I just saw Carly Fiorina on Chris Matthews. She is very sharp. I like her.
#165. To: CZ82 (#155)
I just saw Carly Fiorina on Chris Matthews. She is very sharp. I like her.
#166. To: CZ82, SOSO (#156)
If Stain was good enough for you to be included as a front runner in the party that you wanted to win over, yes honor and decency.
#167. To: TooConservative (#159)
America has been a paranoid country from the get-go.
#168. To: sneakypete (#167)
(Edited)
With good reason. The people that founded this nation didn't come here because they had nothing better to do. They came her to get out of Europe and out from under the thumbs of the national churches.
#169. To: TooConservative (#168)
Sure. But we're paranoid even when we have no reason to be.
#170. To: sneakypete (#164)
A AA version of Trump in a dress,but to give her credit,she probably is smarter than him.
#171. To: sneakypete (#167)
They came her to get out of Europe and out from under the thumbs of the national churches.
#172. To: Vicomte13 (#170)
But she's a prissy girl with a big imagination.
#173. To: Vicomte13 (#171)
So they could found their OWN national church right here,
#174. To: sneakypete (#172)
We understand you are a Catholic and don't like "girls who don't know their place."
#175. To: sneakypete (#173)
eally? What church would that be,and why haven't I ever heard of it?
#176. To: Vicomte13 (#175)
Puritans. All of New England.
#177. To: sneakypete (#176)
#178. To: Vicomte13 (#177)
You are obsessed with fear of the Catholic Church.
#179. To: sneakypete (#178)
You are also clearly insane.
#180. To: Vicomte13 (#179)
You are also clearly insane.
#181. To: sneakypete (#178)
And what sane person WOULDN'T be upset over their country being taken over by a mass of illiterate superstitious peasants with no knowledge whatsoever of our culture or history,and no interest in learning about them?
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#182. To: sneakypete (#178)
(Edited)
You are obsessed with fear of the Catholic Church.
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#183. To: CZ82 (#181)
You know maybe that's the reason he's here instead of being there?? Moved out to get away from the results of their stupid ideology but insisting it is adopted here.
#184. To: CZ82 (#182)
He's sounding more and more like Meguro with every post.
#185. To: Rufus T Firefly (#86)
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