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Title: Anyone watching the debate? You can post thoughts here
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Published: Aug 6, 2015
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Post Date: 2015-08-06 20:56:58 by Rufus T Firefly
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#56. To: nolu chan (#47)
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C'mon. A self-selected PollDaddy poll? You don't recall when I demonstrated how easy it is to slam PollDaddy polls with Bash scripting, back at LP? A very fine expose on how easy it is for techie types to manipulate self-selected online polls. I think Trump hurt himself. Maybe a 5% drop in the polls. I'd say that Cruz recovered some voters from him. And Huck helped himself with Iowa voters, especially the Fair Tax voters that loved him so much in 2008. I think Rubio lost ground and is wishing he hadn't given up his senate seat to run for prez. Rubio may be heading for the JV debate next time around. He's great at soaring Peggy Noonan speeches at a convention but not good at a debate. Paul was a wash (helped himself with younger voters, probably lost some older voters), Walker mostly a wash and a little boring, Kasich a yawn (but probably helped himself a little), Christie thinks he did great but I thought he looked like a bully again. I think Trump was the night's biggest loser, along with Rubio and Bush. Carson and Huckabee and Cruz (and Fiorina) were the biggest winners and move up and get more fundraising. The rest didn't hurt or help themselves much either way.
Walker is going bald too early in his political career. He won't survive SNL in the general election:)
"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Cross them all off the list Pete. They are all Christians who believe in Christ and His miracles. It should tell you something that the smartest man on stage is also a believer. There's always Hitlery. She's not a "fundy.":) "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Cruz has been hardline on immigration throughout. So Trump was bombastic and got a lot of media attention but immigration would definitely have surfaced, even without Donald Trump raving about Mexican rapists. Trump took a major hit from each of the moderators. Baier hit him right off with the third-party question. Wallace hit him with his bankruptcies. Kelly tried to hit him with the you're-mean-to-girls crap and he mostly brushed that off but she definitely got him good when she asked how long he has been a Republican (which he dodged and weaved but never admitted his registration as a Republican only goes back to 2009. I noticed that in the Hannity post-debate interviews, Trump's hair had lost its 4-way combover plastered with industrial-quality hairspray. His hair was falling all over his forehead in cute bangs, making him look like an old, blonde and angry version of Twiggy (not that you're old enough to know who she was). Trump was thrown way off his game. He was sputtering, almost incoherent by the time he gave his closing.
I thought someone said Chris Matthews was a moderator at that one. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
I think his general style and personality carries him past his little Hair Club For Men problem. But I could be wrong. I know a lot of GOP women like Rubio for no reason they can articulate. And, other than the quarter-size bald spot at the back of his head, he looks good with his new combover moussed look. But I recall that both Dan Quayle and Paul Ryan were supposed to be total chick magnets and how that didn't work out so well.
Yes women don't miss those terrible comb overs. The Mrs. pointed it out immediately in the Hannity segment.
"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
No. Martha Blondelowcut and Bill Hemmer. They seemed a little lightweight to me but did okay, I guess. However, Carly Fiorina apparently left her victory at the 4pm debate and went on Matthews' show and tore him to shreds. Maybe we'll have some video tomorrow. No need to wait, HA has it up. HotAir: Video: Carly Fiorina’s attack on Hillary leaves Chris Matthews speechless
They kinda ganged up on him with Common Core. Bush was ready but not ready enough. His wooden rote answers sounded weak. It was one of the few moments where I thought Bush seemed remarkably lifelike. Otherwise, a robotic corpse.
It is being replayed on CNN and Fox News. The one who really did well was Fiorina in the early debate. She scooped up over 80% of the first place votes. I just heard on the radio that Fiorina left her debate notes at hotel and winged it. Fox (GOP central) has been dumping on Trump. He appears to be dominating a poll at Drudge. His performance could go either way. Megyn Kelly went out of her way to make things difficult for Trump, but had some difficult questions for all. I thought Cruz, Kasich and Walker did ok. I thought Rubio would do better. Jeb and Rubio seemed too scripted. Christie and Paul did not help each other, and Paul should have left Trump alone. Carson had a good closing. Huckabee had some good laugh lines.
She shut Matthews up. He cut and ran.
I'm not sure he ran but he knew he'd met his match. She didn't fall for his gotchas, went on offensive against Hitlery and was relatively immune to the usual PMSNBC War On Women attack memes he was trying to peddle. She's no half-baked Palin. She is much improved as a candidate since her 2010 Senate run.
Another self-selected poll. Worthless.
Or so they claim for career purposes. The difference is that Carson really and truly believes. It should tell you something that the smartest man on stage is also a believer. That even smart people can be wrong? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
He's not used to sharing the limelight or having to justify what he says. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
She handled him amazingly well.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Missed the main event . Carly Fiorina showed that she had a strong command of foreign policy as well as economic issues ,and that she belongs at the adult table . Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
I would take that as a sign he either doesn't really know much of anything or he was lying his ass off or both. Ahhh yes support the nimrod that the establishment nominates, where has that thought process gotten this country in the last 80 years?? Where did you pick up that $5 word at? :) 8 years of O'bunghole... and maybe even a Shitlary Clinton. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Yes she did !! Good for her! Si vis pacem, para bellum
I was impressed with Carly Fiorina, as well. Not only the debate itself, but the way she handled Chris Matthews. My only concern - when she ran for the Senate in CA, how did she lose to perhaps the only woman in politics stupider than Nancy Pelosi (i.e. Boxer)? If she WERE to be the nominee, she would be running against the worlds SMARTEST woman, doncha know? (sarcasm tag /off)
She's a staunch Methodist and a believer who has a Bible Study circle. Pete will have to cross her of his list too.
That's pretty close to my observations as well. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Why are you so convinced Ben Carson is wrong about his faith? "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Where did you pick up that $5 word at? :) Archbishop Stepinac HS in NY:) Had a buddy on the basketball team who always slept in AP History class and that word came up quite often from a Fr. Quinn. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Pete will have to cross her of his list too. I would love to attend one of those Bible studies:) What exactly is a 'staunch" Methodist these days? I'm sure she is not the original Wesleyan Methodist. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
He is not his dad.
looking for a cabinet post. He knows he is not on the short list for VP, but hopes for a cushy cabinet post, to build his g0vt pension. What he doesn't understand is that under a President Trump, there will be no cushy cabinet post.
But Xlinton will be looking for some so-called republicans to fill her regime. Perhaps he can pull a "Chuck Hagel" and put in his application there
Why are you so convinced Ben Carson is wrong about his faith? When did I ever say anyone was wrong to have faith? I just happen to personally believe the whole "God" thing is nothing more than a scam,but I have never tried to claim people don't have a right to believe what they want to believe as long as they aren't harming anyone. I also don't want a "True Believer" in anything but the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights sitting in the WH,and will NOT vote for one because a True Believer will put his religious beliefs ahead of everything else,and that is the kind of crap that leads to religious slavery and Holy Wars. You go ahead and vote for anyone you want,but I will never vote for a funidie of any faith. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I am still not impressed by Cruz's stage ability. He is smart and probably a great court lawyer but he is trying to dumb it down and seem sincere (does he look like that always with the attempt to make an earnest face or is that an act?). Anyway, as a marketing guy myself I see Cruz as Joe Isuzu.... The rest kind of did as good as I expected and I think Dr Carson redeemed himself in my eyes. For a long time, this very smart neurosurgeon always sounded like a retard Freeper - and not know the Baltic countries were in NATO would just have me wondering if he was really smart or just an affirmative action doctor? But last night Carson spoke in a way that redeemed him in my eyes. He is a smart guy but knows jack about foreign policy and politics so he was copying talk show radio points (like Trump did). Also, why are we calling these debates "debates" - they are question and answer sessions. Trump did OK - no knockout tonight by him on the others but I think he won't be hurt too much by how new he was to the process. Chris Christie's support for the Patriot Act and mentioning 9/10 and 9/11 over and over made me sick. I fucking hate Republicans invoking 9/11 after the shit those morons did under retard Bush. Paul had it right - get a warrant from a judge you fat piece of shit. Paul seemed combative but that is not his strength. Oh, and Bush looked puzzled. Like he was not expecting it to be this hard or something.
For all practical purposes Bubbette! has been crossed off of all my positive lists since she entered college. IMHO she would make an excellent crash test dummy for the National Highway Safety Act people. After all,she has plenty of padding and she is definitely a dummy. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
What about JEB? He's a close family friend,and their families have been doing business together ever since Bubba was the Governor of Ark. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
The same way she tore Hewlett Packard to shreds as CEO. That woman is a smooth talking dud who rides a meticulously groomed public image but has accomplished nothing of substance. She's the biggest destructive con person of the lot and is dangerous.
Paul had good positions but he was way too eager to jump in on the attack, especially going after Trump right out of the gate as a Xlinton puppet. Christie, like most of the others, want to declare war on Rand Paul and anyone who doesn't want to invade Syria/Iraq/Iran. The GOP is delusional if they think they will win by promising more wars in the Mideast. The public will not sign up for it. Inasmuch as Rand Paul is the only GOP candidate who isn't promising war, he did okay. But I doubt he gained many votes last night so the debate did nothing to move him up the list.
I agree with you - at least you saw it like I did - Paul was eager to jump in but it does not always work for him - not his style. Trump needs to prepare more. Just bar room talk about building Mexican walls (which I support) is not enough. Debates never sway me because I am political junkie and already have my mind made up unless the person is a drooling idiot on stage. Trump being anti-free trade and saying so on TV really made me feel good. I am an old school conservative and patriot even when I am doing my anti-American trolling. I fucking hate the idea of open borders and free trade. It's become a GOP ideology because they are so pro business it hurts but it was not always the case.
They're kind of dumb. Does anyone imagine that our presidents are hosting a debating society in the White Hut? I was surprised at how brazen the GOP candidates were in promising a ground invasion of Syria and a second invasion of Iraq. How can they possibly think they can win the general election when the voters are so opposed to more Mideast wars? Only a 9/11-style attack could move the public to support the foreign policy of the Stain/Lieberman/Graham/Krauthammer and the other neocon belligerents. I'm not sure even another 9/11 could get the public on board for another Mideast war. They sound way too eager to find any pretext to invade the Mideast again.
Several of our founding fathers who were devoted Christians and who later became President did not seem to have a problem with the US Constitution. So not seeing a strong case for your point. The spirit of the American Revolution had its roots in the First Great Awakening. No holy wars ensued from that. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
For some reason my tablet no longer likes playing videos (even with a Flash Player update) even on YouTube. However, was able to view the above on the MSNBC site. Wow...She did not squirm or deflect and went right at it on Hardball. Which means it was not scripted and she knows what she is talking about. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest **DRUDGE POLL** WHO WON THE FIRST REPUBLICAN DEBATE '16?
#57. To: TooConservative (#36)
#58. To: sneakypete (#44)
Ben Carson would be at or near the top of my list if he weren't a True Believer Fundie. I just can't vote to make someone president that believes in magic and miracles.
#59. To: redleghunter (#55)
One was that the moderators wouldn't be talking about illegal immigration if he did not make a stink about it. He's right.
#60. To: TooConservative (#51)
On FNC at 4pm CST in the same hall.
#61. To: redleghunter (#57)
Walker is going bald too early in his political career. He won't survive SNL in the general election:)
#62. To: TooConservative (#59)
#63. To: redleghunter (#60)
I thought someone said Chris Matthews was a moderator at that one.
#64. To: redleghunter (#54)
Mrs. RLH crossed off Jeb after she heard his name mentioned along with common core.
#65. To: redleghunter (#49)
#66. To: TooConservative (#63)
#67. To: nolu chan (#66)
#68. To: nolu chan (#65)
She scooped up over 80% of the first place votes.
#69. To: redleghunter (#58)
Cross them all off the list Pete. They are all Christians who believe in Christ and His miracles.
#70. To: TooConservative (#59)
Trump was thrown way off his game. He was sputtering, almost incoherent by the time he gave his closing.
#71. To: TooConservative (#63)
#72. To: redleghunter, all (#48)
I missed the earlier debate.
#73. To: TooConservative (#64)
His wooden rote answers sounded weak. It was one of the few moments where I thought Bush seemed remarkably lifelike. Otherwise, a robotic corpse.
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#74. To: SOSO, Too Conservative, Liberator, redleghunter (#42)
He refused to say that he would support the REP nominee if it wasn't him. That's chicken sh*t then, now and always.
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#75. To: redleghunter (#49)
somnolent.
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#76. To: CZ82 (#74)
where has that thought process gotten this country in the last 80 years??
#77. To: TooConservative (#63)
" Carly Fiorina . . . went on Matthews' show and tore him to shreds "
#78. To: tomder55 (#72)
Missed the main event . Carly Fiorina showed that she had a strong command of foreign policy as well as economic issues ,and that she belongs at the adult table .
#79. To: redleghunter (#58)
There's always Hitlery. She's not a "fundy.":)
#80. To: nolu chan (#65)
I thought Cruz, Kasich and Walker did ok. I thought Rubio would do better. Jeb and Rubio seemed too scripted. Christie and Paul did not help each other, and Paul should have left Trump alone. Carson had a good closing. Huckabee had some good laugh lines.
#81. To: sneakypete (#69)
That even smart people can be wrong?
#82. To: CZ82 (#75)
somnolent.
#83. To: Vicomte13, TooConservative, GarySpFc, liberator (#79)
She's a staunch Methodist and a believer who has a Bible Study circle.
#84. To: A K A Stone (#8)
#85. To: Rufus T Firefly (#9)
Now Kasich is trying to ride Trump's coattails
#86. To: BobCeleste (#85)
What he doesn't understand is that under a President Trump, there will be no cushy cabinet post.
#87. To: redleghunter (#81)
That even smart people can be wrong?
#88. To: TooConservative (#29)
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#89. To: redleghunter (#83)
Pete will have to cross her of his list too.
#90. To: Rufus T Firefly (#86)
But Xlinton will be looking for some so-called republicans to fill her regime.
#91. To: Stoner (#77)
" Carly Fiorina . . . went on Matthews' show and tore him to shreds "
#92. To: Pericles (#88)
Chris Christie's support for the Patriot Act and mentioning 9/10 and 9/11 over and over made me sick. I fucking hate Republicans invoking 9/11 after the shit those morons did under retard Bush. Paul had it right - get a warrant from a judge you fat piece of shit. Paul seemed combative but that is not his strength.
#93. To: TooConservative (#92)
#94. To: Pericles (#93)
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Debates never sway me because I am political junkie and already have my mind made up unless the person is a drooling idiot on stage.
#95. To: sneakypete, GarySpFc, tomder55 (#87)
I also don't want a "True Believer" in anything but the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights sitting in the WH,and will NOT vote for one because a True Believer will put his religious beliefs ahead of everything else,and that is the kind of crap that leads to religious slavery and Holy Wars.
#96. To: TooConservative (#63)
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