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You can post thoughts here Source: Fox News URL Source: http://n/a Published: Aug 6, 2015 Author: n/a Post Date: 2015-08-06 20:56:58 by Rufus T Firefly Keywords: None Views: 24799 Comments: 185 Hype? Anticipation? Thoughts? Roman circuses? Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Comments (1-28) not displayed.       .       .       . #29. To: Rufus T Firefly (#4) Kasich - big government republican. Strike 3 - he's outta there. DrewM at AoS is convinced Kasich will be Bush's running mate. Depressing, eh? A lot of others seem to think that is the natural ticket because the GOP must win FL and they must win OH or they can't win at all. Much as I dislike Bush and Kasich, I'm not totally convinced they are wrong. The Dems get 242 electoral votes if they just flip off their voters and don't even campaign. So the EC is slanted against the GOP. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-06   22:01:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #30. To: TooConservative (#28) He got hit between the eyes with a 2x4 in the very first question. And he wasn't ready for the one question he had to know they would ask. He could have definitely answered it better. You know, though, that if a "Cruz" were the nominee, you'd have some gop-e pe people that would be supporting the democrat. Remember when Colin Powell - who claims to be a republican - couldn't even support his "friend" John McLunatic? Rufus T Firefly  posted on  2015-08-06   22:03:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #31. To: Rufus T Firefly (#0) I just downsized my Comcast package down to just 20 channels... and the debate isn't one of them. I'll watch it on YouTube... but Facebook already reports that Fox (and Megan Kelly) aren't being fair to the Donald. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-06   22:09:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #32. To: GrandIsland (#31) Fox looks at Trump as the skunk in the hen house. Rufus T Firefly  posted on  2015-08-06   22:14:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #33. To: TooConservative (#27) Huckabee isn't doing to bad either. A K A Stone  posted on  2015-08-06   22:19:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #34. To: A K A Stone (#33) Huckabee isn't doing to bad either. He's terrible on illegals, though. And while I'm an old fart who will be drawing SS pretty soon myself, the Huckster's plan on not touching a broken system is unrealistic. Rufus T Firefly  posted on  2015-08-06   22:21:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #35. To: Rufus T Firefly (#30) He could have definitely answered it better. Why did Trump interrupt to assure the audience that he opposed the Iraq war in 2004? What, along with John Kerry? We invaded Iraq in early 2003. Did Trump want Bush to just yank them out a year later? I don't recall Trump saying anything like that. Even Vox is ridiculing Trump's statement. It was as incoherent as Jeb!'s statement about Dumbya's Iraq war. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-06   22:29:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #36. To: A K A Stone (#33) (Edited) Huckabee isn't doing to bad either. He'll never get the money or attention. In a crowded field, he'll have even less chance than he did in the 2008 field. But Huckabee is just likeable to a lot of people. It's not hard to see why. He's a bit of a people pleaser, like another Arkansas pol, Bill Xlinton. I think Walker has an edge in youth, being low-key, having the right demeanor, perceived by voters as "approachable", "cares about people like me", etc. The usual polling benchmarks. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-06   22:31:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #37. To: TooConservative (#36) I saw Rubio in the warm-up a few days ago. He seems pretty sharp with those Vulcan ears. Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-08-06   22:36:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #38. To: Fred Mertz (#37) (Edited) I saw Rubio in the warm-up a few days ago. He seems pretty sharp with those Vulcan ears. He looks more Romulan than Vulcan, don't you think? He gave up on the big hair and has gone slicked-back. It works well because his hair was thinning and receding. Going slick conceals the thinness and lets him do a tiny combover in the front. Same with Jeb! and his hair. They must have the same stylist. Walker has that hopeless bald spot but he's from Wisconsin and he's comfortable with it.     : ) Rand's hair looks a little less like a mop. Maybe his wife made him stop cutting his own hair in the shower. What a cheapskate. I like the intangibles as much as the issues. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-06   22:50:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #39. To: GrandIsland, Fred Mertz (#31) Check my #25 to Fred. The streaming worked for me but I had to wait almost 2 minutes for it to start streaming and it looked dead until the video suddenly appeared and started playing smoothly. Not sure if it worked for Fred or not. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-06   22:54:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #40. To: Rufus T Firefly (#0) Why does it take 3 sentences to ask 1 question? Why do the moderators have to frame the questions from the liberal side of the aisle? War on women? Like this is a real thing in America. jeremiad  posted on  2015-08-06   23:21:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #41. To: jeremiad (#40) What state was Jebby a governor of ? Si vis pacem, para bellum Stoner  posted on  2015-08-06   23:26:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #42. To: TooConservative (#22) Nor did he run third-party when he could have after he lost the 2008 and the 2012 nomination fight, even though he was widely urged to do so and both LP and CP were ready to dual-nominate him. He refused to say that he would support the REP nominee if it wasn't him. That's chicken sh*t then, now and always. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь SOSO  posted on  2015-08-06   23:43:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #43. To: A K A Stone (#8) Paul is crossed off my list. He comes across as a creepy asshole. I hope you have seen Dollar Donald for what he is and x'd him as well. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь SOSO  posted on  2015-08-06   23:44:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #44. To: Rufus T Firefly (#14) Cruz is the 2nd smartest - forgot Ben Carson Ben Carson would be at or near the top of my list if he weren't a True Believer Fundie. I just can't vote to make someone president that believes in magic and miracles. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-06   23:48:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #45. To: Fred Mertz (#24) It ain't on my local Fox affiliate. I was dying to see it. Fred,I'm betting it will be on YouTube by the morning. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-06   23:50:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #46. To: Stoner (#41) I don't know of a Jebby. Jeb Bush though was guvnah of Florida when Terry Schiavo was allowed to die of thirst. I think he was also guvnah when Elian Gonzalez was taken by jackbooted SWAT team members from his family in Floriduh. jeremiad  posted on  2015-08-06   23:55:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #47. To: Rufus T Firefly (#0) http://www.drudgereport.com/now.htm **DRUDGE POLL** WHO WON THE FIRST REPUBLICAN DEBATE '16? BUSH 2.59% (4,684 votes) CARSON 10.25% (18,531 votes) CHRISTIE 1.44% (2,605 votes) CRUZ 15.54% (28,105 votes) HUCKABEE 3.52% (6,361 votes) KASICH 4.97% (8,987 votes) PAUL 9.52% (17,215 votes) RUBIO 9.76% (17,659 votes) TRUMP 37.84% (68,433 votes) WALKER 4.57% (8,288 votes) Total Votes: 180,868 nolu chan  posted on  2015-08-07   0:43:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #48. To: TooConservative (#3) JEB played it safe and looked uncomfortable when stating things he did not believe. Does that make sense:) I missed the earlier debate. Was that on PMSNBC? "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-07   1:04:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #49. To: nolu chan (#47) I think Cruz, Kasich and Rubio did fine. Huck got in a few good lines to remind them he was still there. Walker did a good job promoting his record but was a bit somnolent. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-07   1:08:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #50. To: SOSO (#42) He refused to say that he would support the REP nominee if it wasn't him. That's chicken sh*t then, now and always. True. But he steadily refused any urging to run third-party and explained it was futile, given the built-in advantages the two parties create for themselves to exclude third parties. A third party faces big hurdles just to get on all the state ballots and much of their money and time is spent on that while the bigwigs pour massive funding into the two parties, increasing their advantage further. Not endorsing your party's nominee is not the same as running third party after participating in a party's nomination process. And for all the whining over Ron Paul not endorsing the Stain or Romney, do you think it would have made any difference? Of course not. You're just whining to hear yourself whine over something you know full well would have made no difference in the 2008 or 2012 election. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-07   1:09:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #51. To: redleghunter (#48) JEB played it safe and looked uncomfortable when stating things he did not believe. Does that make sense:) Jeb recited answers. His team obviously made lists of every possible question and drilled Bush on them, right down to the exact phrasing he should use. Bush delivered his lines like an amateur actor, mostly in a flat voice. You could tell he was reciting. It had all the drama of a bad amateur theater production. Bush was a total snoozer. I missed the earlier debate. Was that on PMSNBC? On FNC at 4pm CST in the same hall. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-07   1:11:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #52. To: Rufus T Firefly (#6) Fox moderators really wanted to knock out Trump early in the going. He got the toughest treatment given he has a big mouth. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-07   1:11:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #53. To: A K A Stone (#8) Under the camera light I got the impression Rand has a tupee. Can't confirm this. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-07   1:13:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #54. To: TooConservative, liberator, tomder55, CZ82 (#27) Mrs. RLH crossed off Jeb after she heard his name mentioned along with common core. His answer trying to wiggle out of it doomed him with her even more. Mrs. RLH is president of my son's school PTA:) Interesting to get her perspective given she hates these debates. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-07   1:19:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #55. To: Rufus T Firefly, TooConservative, A K A Stone (#32) Ok yes Trump started out terrible but had some moments where he was 100% correct. One was that the moderators wouldn't be talking about illegal immigration if he did not make a stink about it. He's right. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-07   1:24:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #56. To: nolu chan (#47) (Edited) **DRUDGE POLL** WHO WON THE FIRST REPUBLICAN DEBATE '16? C'mon. A self-selected PollDaddy poll? You don't recall when I demonstrated how easy it is to slam PollDaddy polls with Bash scripting, back at LP? A very fine expose on how easy it is for techie types to manipulate self-selected online polls. I think Trump hurt himself. Maybe a 5% drop in the polls. I'd say that Cruz recovered some voters from him. And Huck helped himself with Iowa voters, especially the Fair Tax voters that loved him so much in 2008. I think Rubio lost ground and is wishing he hadn't given up his senate seat to run for prez. Rubio may be heading for the JV debate next time around. He's great at soaring Peggy Noonan speeches at a convention but not good at a debate. Paul was a wash (helped himself with younger voters, probably lost some older voters), Walker mostly a wash and a little boring, Kasich a yawn (but probably helped himself a little), Christie thinks he did great but I thought he looked like a bully again. I think Trump was the night's biggest loser, along with Rubio and Bush. Carson and Huckabee and Cruz (and Fiorina) were the biggest winners and move up and get more fundraising. The rest didn't hurt or help themselves much either way. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-07   1:25:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #57. To: TooConservative (#36) Walker is going bald too early in his political career. He won't survive SNL in the general election:) "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-07   1:27:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #58. To: sneakypete (#44) Ben Carson would be at or near the top of my list if he weren't a True Believer Fundie. I just can't vote to make someone president that believes in magic and miracles. Cross them all off the list Pete. They are all Christians who believe in Christ and His miracles. It should tell you something that the smartest man on stage is also a believer. There's always Hitlery. She's not a "fundy.":) "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-07   1:31:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #59. To: redleghunter (#55) One was that the moderators wouldn't be talking about illegal immigration if he did not make a stink about it. He's right. Cruz has been hardline on immigration throughout. So Trump was bombastic and got a lot of media attention but immigration would definitely have surfaced, even without Donald Trump raving about Mexican rapists. Trump took a major hit from each of the moderators. Baier hit him right off with the third-party question. Wallace hit him with his bankruptcies. Kelly tried to hit him with the you're-mean-to-girls crap and he mostly brushed that off but she definitely got him good when she asked how long he has been a Republican (which he dodged and weaved but never admitted his registration as a Republican only goes back to 2009. I noticed that in the Hannity post-debate interviews, Trump's hair had lost its 4-way combover plastered with industrial-quality hairspray. His hair was falling all over his forehead in cute bangs, making him look like an old, blonde and angry version of Twiggy (not that you're old enough to know who she was). Trump was thrown way off his game. He was sputtering, almost incoherent by the time he gave his closing. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-07   1:32:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #60. To: TooConservative (#51) On FNC at 4pm CST in the same hall. I thought someone said Chris Matthews was a moderator at that one. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-07   1:34:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #61. To: redleghunter (#57) Walker is going bald too early in his political career. He won't survive SNL in the general election:) I think his general style and personality carries him past his little Hair Club For Men problem. But I could be wrong. I know a lot of GOP women like Rubio for no reason they can articulate. And, other than the quarter-size bald spot at the back of his head, he looks good with his new combover moussed look. But I recall that both Dan Quayle and Paul Ryan were supposed to be total chick magnets and how that didn't work out so well. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-07   1:36:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #62. To: TooConservative (#59) Yes women don't miss those terrible comb overs. The Mrs. pointed it out immediately in the Hannity segment. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-07   1:38:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #63. To: redleghunter (#60) I thought someone said Chris Matthews was a moderator at that one. No. Martha Blondelowcut and Bill Hemmer. They seemed a little lightweight to me but did okay, I guess. However, Carly Fiorina apparently left her victory at the 4pm debate and went on Matthews' show and tore him to shreds. Maybe we'll have some video tomorrow. No need to wait, HA has it up. HotAir: Video: Carly Fiorina’s attack on Hillary leaves Chris Matthews speechless Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-07   1:40:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #64. To: redleghunter (#54) Mrs. RLH crossed off Jeb after she heard his name mentioned along with common core. They kinda ganged up on him with Common Core. Bush was ready but not ready enough. His wooden rote answers sounded weak. It was one of the few moments where I thought Bush seemed remarkably lifelike. Otherwise, a robotic corpse. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-07   1:47:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #65. To: redleghunter (#49) It is being replayed on CNN and Fox News. The one who really did well was Fiorina in the early debate. She scooped up over 80% of the first place votes. I just heard on the radio that Fiorina left her debate notes at hotel and winged it. Fox (GOP central) has been dumping on Trump. He appears to be dominating a poll at Drudge. His performance could go either way. Megyn Kelly went out of her way to make things difficult for Trump, but had some difficult questions for all. I thought Cruz, Kasich and Walker did ok. I thought Rubio would do better. Jeb and Rubio seemed too scripted. Christie and Paul did not help each other, and Paul should have left Trump alone. Carson had a good closing. Huckabee had some good laugh lines. nolu chan  posted on  2015-08-07   3:09:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #66. To: TooConservative (#63) She shut Matthews up. He cut and ran. nolu chan  posted on  2015-08-07   3:15:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #67. To: nolu chan (#66) I'm not sure he ran but he knew he'd met his match. She didn't fall for his gotchas, went on offensive against Hitlery and was relatively immune to the usual PMSNBC War On Women attack memes he was trying to peddle. She's no half-baked Palin. She is much improved as a candidate since her 2010 Senate run. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-07   3:31:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #68. To: nolu chan (#65) She scooped up over 80% of the first place votes. Another self-selected poll. Worthless. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-07   3:32:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #69. To: redleghunter (#58) Cross them all off the list Pete. They are all Christians who believe in Christ and His miracles. Or so they claim for career purposes. The difference is that Carson really and truly believes. It should tell you something that the smartest man on stage is also a believer. That even smart people can be wrong? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-07   4:17:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply         .       .       . Comments (70 - 185) not displayed. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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