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Fox News URL Source:http://n/a Published:Aug 6, 2015 Author:n/a Post Date:2015-08-06 20:56:58 by Rufus T Firefly Keywords:None Views:26436 Comments:185
Scott Walker has an easygoing low-key style. It is easy to like him. The bar is set low, nothing dramatic. I think people get very comfortable with him.
Walker is apparently the main pick of the Tea folk. They unified behind him early and have mostly stuck with him. Some of the Tea types who supported Cruz and Paul have gone with Trump now but Walker kept hold of his.
He got hit between the eyes with a 2x4 in the very first question. And he wasn't ready for the one question he had to know they would ask.
Donald was a deer in the headlights for about 10 seconds. Then he realized how bad he looked and tried to backpedal. Too late. He was caught.
Clever of the moderators but kinda underhanded. OTOH, who is Trump to complain that someone has played some media hardball? Trump is a media shark himself. No one is going to consider him a victim.
Kasich - big government republican. Strike 3 - he's outta there.
DrewM at AoS is convinced Kasich will be Bush's running mate. Depressing, eh?
A lot of others seem to think that is the natural ticket because the GOP must win FL and they must win OH or they can't win at all. Much as I dislike Bush and Kasich, I'm not totally convinced they are wrong.
The Dems get 242 electoral votes if they just flip off their voters and don't even campaign. So the EC is slanted against the GOP.
I just downsized my Comcast package down to just 20 channels... and the debate isn't one of them. I'll watch it on YouTube... but Facebook already reports that Fox (and Megan Kelly) aren't being fair to the Donald.
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He'll never get the money or attention. In a crowded field, he'll have even less chance than he did in the 2008 field.
But Huckabee is just likeable to a lot of people. It's not hard to see why. He's a bit of a people pleaser, like another Arkansas pol, Bill Xlinton.
I think Walker has an edge in youth, being low-key, having the right demeanor, perceived by voters as "approachable", "cares about people like me", etc. The usual polling benchmarks.
He looks more Romulan than Vulcan, don't you think? He gave up on the big hair and has gone slicked-back. It works well because his hair was thinning and receding. Going slick conceals the thinness and lets him do a tiny combover in the front. Same with Jeb! and his hair. They must have the same stylist.
Walker has that hopeless bald spot but he's from Wisconsin and he's comfortable with it. : )
Rand's hair looks a little less like a mop. Maybe his wife made him stop cutting his own hair in the shower. What a cheapskate.
Check my #25 to Fred. The streaming worked for me but I had to wait almost 2 minutes for it to start streaming and it looked dead until the video suddenly appeared and started playing smoothly. Not sure if it worked for Fred or not.
Why does it take 3 sentences to ask 1 question? Why do the moderators have to frame the questions from the liberal side of the aisle? War on women? Like this is a real thing in America.
Nor did he run third-party when he could have after he lost the 2008 and the 2012 nomination fight, even though he was widely urged to do so and both LP and CP were ready to dual-nominate him.
He refused to say that he would support the REP nominee if it wasn't him. That's chicken sh*t then, now and always.
Ben Carson would be at or near the top of my list if he weren't a True Believer Fundie. I just can't vote to make someone president that believes in magic and miracles.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
It ain't on my local Fox affiliate. I was dying to see it.
Fred,I'm betting it will be on YouTube by the morning.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I don't know of a Jebby. Jeb Bush though was guvnah of Florida when Terry Schiavo was allowed to die of thirst. I think he was also guvnah when Elian Gonzalez was taken by jackbooted SWAT team members from his family in Floriduh.
JEB played it safe and looked uncomfortable when stating things he did not believe. Does that make sense:)
I missed the earlier debate. Was that on PMSNBC?
"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Huck got in a few good lines to remind them he was still there.
Walker did a good job promoting his record but was a bit somnolent.
"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
He refused to say that he would support the REP nominee if it wasn't him. That's chicken sh*t then, now and always.
True. But he steadily refused any urging to run third-party and explained it was futile, given the built-in advantages the two parties create for themselves to exclude third parties. A third party faces big hurdles just to get on all the state ballots and much of their money and time is spent on that while the bigwigs pour massive funding into the two parties, increasing their advantage further.
Not endorsing your party's nominee is not the same as running third party after participating in a party's nomination process.
And for all the whining over Ron Paul not endorsing the Stain or Romney, do you think it would have made any difference? Of course not. You're just whining to hear yourself whine over something you know full well would have made no difference in the 2008 or 2012 election.
JEB played it safe and looked uncomfortable when stating things he did not believe. Does that make sense:)
Jeb recited answers. His team obviously made lists of every possible question and drilled Bush on them, right down to the exact phrasing he should use.
Bush delivered his lines like an amateur actor, mostly in a flat voice. You could tell he was reciting. It had all the drama of a bad amateur theater production. Bush was a total snoozer.
Fox moderators really wanted to knock out Trump early in the going. He got the toughest treatment given he has a big mouth.
"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Under the camera light I got the impression Rand has a tupee. Can't confirm this.
"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
#54. To: TooConservative, liberator, tomder55, CZ82 (#27)
Mrs. RLH crossed off Jeb after she heard his name mentioned along with common core. His answer trying to wiggle out of it doomed him with her even more. Mrs. RLH is president of my son's school PTA:)
Interesting to get her perspective given she hates these debates.
"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
#55. To: Rufus T Firefly, TooConservative, A K A Stone (#32)
Ok yes Trump started out terrible but had some moments where he was 100% correct. One was that the moderators wouldn't be talking about illegal immigration if he did not make a stink about it. He's right.
"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
**DRUDGE POLL** WHO WON THE FIRST REPUBLICAN DEBATE '16?
C'mon. A self-selected PollDaddy poll?
You don't recall when I demonstrated how easy it is to slam PollDaddy polls with Bash scripting, back at LP? A very fine expose on how easy it is for techie types to manipulate self-selected online polls.
I think Trump hurt himself. Maybe a 5% drop in the polls. I'd say that Cruz recovered some voters from him. And Huck helped himself with Iowa voters, especially the Fair Tax voters that loved him so much in 2008.
I think Rubio lost ground and is wishing he hadn't given up his senate seat to run for prez. Rubio may be heading for the JV debate next time around. He's great at soaring Peggy Noonan speeches at a convention but not good at a debate.
Paul was a wash (helped himself with younger voters, probably lost some older voters), Walker mostly a wash and a little boring, Kasich a yawn (but probably helped himself a little), Christie thinks he did great but I thought he looked like a bully again.
I think Trump was the night's biggest loser, along with Rubio and Bush. Carson and Huckabee and Cruz (and Fiorina) were the biggest winners and move up and get more fundraising. The rest didn't hurt or help themselves much either way.
Walker is going bald too early in his political career. He won't survive SNL in the general election:)
"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Ben Carson would be at or near the top of my list if he weren't a True Believer Fundie. I just can't vote to make someone president that believes in magic and miracles.
Cross them all off the list Pete. They are all Christians who believe in Christ and His miracles.
It should tell you something that the smartest man on stage is also a believer.
There's always Hitlery. She's not a "fundy.":)
"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
One was that the moderators wouldn't be talking about illegal immigration if he did not make a stink about it. He's right.
Cruz has been hardline on immigration throughout. So Trump was bombastic and got a lot of media attention but immigration would definitely have surfaced, even without Donald Trump raving about Mexican rapists.
Trump took a major hit from each of the moderators. Baier hit him right off with the third-party question. Wallace hit him with his bankruptcies. Kelly tried to hit him with the you're-mean-to-girls crap and he mostly brushed that off but she definitely got him good when she asked how long he has been a Republican (which he dodged and weaved but never admitted his registration as a Republican only goes back to 2009.
I noticed that in the Hannity post-debate interviews, Trump's hair had lost its 4-way combover plastered with industrial-quality hairspray. His hair was falling all over his forehead in cute bangs, making him look like an old, blonde and angry version of Twiggy (not that you're old enough to know who she was).
Trump was thrown way off his game. He was sputtering, almost incoherent by the time he gave his closing.
I thought someone said Chris Matthews was a moderator at that one.
"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Walker is going bald too early in his political career. He won't survive SNL in the general election:)
I think his general style and personality carries him past his little Hair Club For Men problem. But I could be wrong. I know a lot of GOP women like Rubio for no reason they can articulate. And, other than the quarter-size bald spot at the back of his head, he looks good with his new combover moussed look. But I recall that both Dan Quayle and Paul Ryan were supposed to be total chick magnets and how that didn't work out so well.
Yes women don't miss those terrible comb overs. The Mrs. pointed it out immediately in the Hannity segment.
"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
I thought someone said Chris Matthews was a moderator at that one.
No. Martha Blondelowcut and Bill Hemmer. They seemed a little lightweight to me but did okay, I guess.
However, Carly Fiorina apparently left her victory at the 4pm debate and went on Matthews' show and tore him to shreds. Maybe we'll have some video tomorrow.
Mrs. RLH crossed off Jeb after she heard his name mentioned along with common core.
They kinda ganged up on him with Common Core. Bush was ready but not ready enough. His wooden rote answers sounded weak. It was one of the few moments where I thought Bush seemed remarkably lifelike. Otherwise, a robotic corpse.
It is being replayed on CNN and Fox News. The one who really did well was Fiorina in the early debate. She scooped up over 80% of the first place votes. I just heard on the radio that Fiorina left her debate notes at hotel and winged it.
Fox (GOP central) has been dumping on Trump. He appears to be dominating a poll at Drudge. His performance could go either way. Megyn Kelly went out of her way to make things difficult for Trump, but had some difficult questions for all.
I thought Cruz, Kasich and Walker did ok. I thought Rubio would do better. Jeb and Rubio seemed too scripted. Christie and Paul did not help each other, and Paul should have left Trump alone. Carson had a good closing. Huckabee had some good laugh lines.
I'm not sure he ran but he knew he'd met his match. She didn't fall for his gotchas, went on offensive against Hitlery and was relatively immune to the usual PMSNBC War On Women attack memes he was trying to peddle.
She's no half-baked Palin. She is much improved as a candidate since her 2010 Senate run.
