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Title: Anyone watching the debate? You can post thoughts here
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Published: Aug 6, 2015
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Post Date: 2015-08-06 20:56:58 by Rufus T Firefly
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#145. To: SOSO (#143)

So run 3rd Party right off.

Why? Why not run as an actual Republican since no one else is? Let THEM run for a 3rd party seat.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-07   21:37:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: sneakypete (#145)

Why? Why not run as an actual Republican since no one else is? Let THEM run for a 3rd party seat.

Very correct with a minor caveat; they should be running on the Democrat ticket, it makes more sense.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-08-07   22:09:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: buckeroo (#146)

Very correct with a minor caveat; they should be running on the Democrat ticket, it makes more sense.

How so?

He's opposed to illegal immigration (and the only one on the Republican side willing to make a point of it).

He favors a common market in health insurance - a market-based solution to an insurance crisis. That's better than either party has come up with to date.

He talks as tough on ISIS as any Republican.

He believes in business.

What makes Donald Trump a Democrat? And why should a Republican like him get out of the way of those other weak sister losers up on stage with him?

Donald Trump is a winner. Always has been. He's charismatic and can lead people. And does.

So what is it about that that makes him not a Republican?

Oh, wait, he's a winner, not a loser, he's charismatic and can lead people. Yeah, that's definitely not the Republican style.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-08-07   22:28:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: Vicomte13 (#147)

All republicans love illegal aliens. That is why America has NAFTA and CAFTA which has created the almost 50,000,000 illegal alien immigration march into the USA.

What the political punks have done is simple to explain: beg to be a Democrat to further weaken America's borders while inviting illegal aliens to vote. And, do not enforce the existing laws.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-08-07   22:34:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: Vicomte13 (#147)

What makes Donald Trump a Democrat?

His love for the Democratic Party; it is called donations to the tune of millions of dollars.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-08-07   22:40:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: Pericles (#123)

Go! I'm sure there is some Eastern Orthodox church near you.

"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-07   23:45:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: Vicomte13 (#126)

Ah yes. You are correct sir.

"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-07   23:46:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: sneakypete, TooConservative (#132)

I have to disagree with that one. Anyone even remotely familiar with the history of the Catholic Church knows that for hundreds of years it functioned as a arm of government everywhere it planted roots.

They even had their own courts and their own sentencing for anyone they accused of committing religious crimes.

In fact,not too long ago they were still playing these brutal games in Ireland.

But not in the USA. "Popery" was kept in check here in the USA.

"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-07   23:57:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: TooConservative (#63)

I just saw Carly Fiorina on Chris Matthews. She is very sharp. I like her.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-08-08   0:34:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: redleghunter (#150) (Edited)

Go! I'm sure there is some Eastern Orthodox church near you.

I meant doing more than services - like being around the church all the time. The church was my day care up to the 6th grade.

Pericles  posted on  2015-08-08   0:57:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: sneakypete (#137)

Our Jesus commands us to be peaceful and turn the other cheek.

Maybe,but nobody listens,or there wouldn't have been a war with the Protestants that lasted several hundred years.

Ummm I don't think it has ever stopped, the Catholics and self appointed ruling class want to keep their power.

http://www.talk2action.org/story/2013/6/2/21262/88725/Front_Page/The_NeoCon_War_ Against_the_Mainline_Protestant_Churches_Continues

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-08-08   9:01:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: SOSO (#142)

If Stain was good enough for you to be included as a front runner in the party that you wanted to win over, yes honor and decency.

He wasn't good enough it was only his turn.

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-08-08   9:04:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: SOSO (#142)

WTF is doing running in that party other than to use the party to gain national visibility and the money that comes with that?

Maybe trying to do what a large portion of the population of this country want, to take back the party from all the faux conservatives...

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-08-08   9:06:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: Chuck_Wagon (#124)

My girlfriend watched it and said that she was utterly disgusted by Kasich, the Ohio Governor.

So are a lot of people in Ohio but they don't outnumber those wanting a handout so he got re-elected.

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-08-08   9:09:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: redleghunter (#152)

But not in the USA. "Popery" was kept in check here in the USA.

It was a big issue in the early post-colonial period. Preachers like Increase Mather often inveighed against the papist hordes of Canada and the threat they posed.

America has been a paranoid country from the get-go.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-08   10:08:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: CZ82 (#158) (Edited)

So are a lot of people in Ohio but they don't outnumber those wanting a handout so he got re-elected.

I recall he won 76 of 78 counties in the state. Far more popular than Perry was in Texas in his last election or Walker in WI or Jindal in LA or Bush in his last election in FL.

Not that I like Kasich. But we'll hear arguments on electability with Bush (or Rubio) to carry FL and Kasich to carry OH as VP. With the Dems having an automatic vote of 240+ EC votes and the GOP in the range of 180, FL and OH (and TX) are must-win for the GOP to win the WH.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-08   10:09:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: TooConservative (#160)

So are a lot of people in Ohio but they don't outnumber those wanting a handout so he got re-elected.

I recall he won 76 of 78 counties in the state.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/12/ohios-kasich-ignores-legislature-on-obamacare- medicaid-funds/

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-08-08   10:15:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: CZ82 (#161)

Squishy as he is, Kasich is pretty popular in OH. Not easy for recent governors of either party.

Kasich is closer to a moderate Dim than a conservative Republican overall. He has reformed OH to some extent, largely because it was so grossly mismanaged previously and the legislature acquiesced to Kasich, knowing they could blame him if it went south on him.

As with Romney and Christie, I am a little suspicious of Republican governors hired to clean up after a liberal state has totally screwed up their state. You notice that these "fixers" leave office unpopular (Romney, Christie, Jindal, Huckabee even) and they take the hits to get necessary things done and the state's libs use the newly solvent finances of the state to embark on their next liberal spending spree.

Then you have other GOP governors like Walker or Mitch Daniels who fought tough battles, reformed a mismanaged liberal state and actually grew the GOP voter base in that state and influenced other states. These are a much more effective kind of GOP pol IMO.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-08   10:28:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: redleghunter (#152)

But not in the USA. "Popery" was kept in check here in the USA.

And thank goodness for that!

The Catholic Church and The Reformation were why the Founding Fathers insisted on Freedom of Religion,and that includes freedom FROM religion.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-08   14:36:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: Vicomte13 (#153)

I just saw Carly Fiorina on Chris Matthews. She is very sharp. I like her.

A AA version of Trump in a dress,but to give her credit,she probably is smarter than him.

She was running HP into bankruptcy and they had to buy her out early to save the company.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-08   14:38:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: CZ82 (#155)

I just saw Carly Fiorina on Chris Matthews. She is very sharp. I like her.

True,but at least the world has stopped them from having their own courts and boiled people to death in pots of oil.

They even wore their crap out in Ireland,and I never thought I would live to see the day that happened.

Now their strategy seems to be to take over the world using 3rd world immigrants to bankrupt governments,or in the case of the US flood us with 3rd world Catholics and take over by putting them on the dole and and getting voter cards for them. The Dims used welfare as a method to enslave the blacks,and now the Catholics are going to use welfare to enslave the browns so they vote for pro-Catholic candidates.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-08   14:42:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: CZ82, SOSO (#156)

If Stain was good enough for you to be included as a front runner in the party that you wanted to win over, yes honor and decency.

He wasn't good enough it was only his turn.

I believe we have now devolved into a One Party Nation,and the ruling class keep that a secret from the drones by making sure each branch of the ruling party gets it's turn in the WH.

The Dims have had it for 8 years now,so the next president will be an alleged Republican,regardless of who the nominee ends up being.

And the new president will be just one more in a long string go globalists that is no more Republican or Conservative than your pet dog.

It's just a shell game. McLunatic got picked to run because he was certain to lose. Everytime Palin fell off-program and started to talk conservative his poll numbers went up,and she had to be slapped back into line again lest he actually win.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-08   14:47:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: TooConservative (#159)

America has been a paranoid country from the get-go.

With good reason. The people that founded this nation didn't come here because they had nothing better to do. They came her to get out of Europe and out from under the thumbs of the national churches.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-08   14:49:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: sneakypete (#167) (Edited)

With good reason. The people that founded this nation didn't come here because they had nothing better to do. They came her to get out of Europe and out from under the thumbs of the national churches.

Sure. But we're paranoid even when we have no reason to be.

Like a herd of easily spooked heifers.

And we like to think that anything that even remotely alarms us automatically justifies doing anything to other countries. Like the invasion of Iraq after 9/11. No connection between Saddam and 9/11 but the country was easily stampeded into it.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-08   14:52:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: TooConservative (#168)

Sure. But we're paranoid even when we have no reason to be.

There is ALWAYS a need to be paranoid because there IS always someone out to get you if you let your guard down.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-08   15:05:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: sneakypete (#164)

A AA version of Trump in a dress,but to give her credit,she probably is smarter than him.

She was running HP into bankruptcy and they had to buy her out early to save the company.

She's not smarter than him. He runs a multibillion dollar company, successfully. She ran a big company into the ground.

She's a flash in the pan. The only reason anybody really paid attention to her is because she's a girl.

But she's a prissy girl with a big imagination. Trump talks about giving Kelley a bloody nose, and Fionrina's mind goes right for her cunt. We don't need to empower that sort of woman any more than we already have. Always aggrieved, always a bitch, always sharp tongued, and almost always wrong, almost always ascribing motives that aren't there, and making up shit men didn't say in order to try to manipulate them.

She's a useless failure as an executive, and when she hears about a bloody nose, she goes on the rag. She's a pussy - screw her.

(Oh, and now she's thinking about rape. No. Screw her as in "FUCK YOU", which - just to be clear for the pantywaist diaper babies who wet themselves at straw language, had not a thing to do with either sex, or rape.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-08-08   15:50:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: sneakypete (#167)

They came her to get out of Europe and out from under the thumbs of the national churches.

So they could found their OWN national church right here, and execute people for witchcraft and other snake-handling buffoonery. That sort of idiot NEEDED to be religiously repressed and kept from speaking things and running their own churches, because when they did, they proved as nuts as they sounded and started killing people left and right.

The Virginians were just here to make money. That was never about religion. Ditto for South Carolina. Ditto for New Netherland. New England was about religious fanaticism. Pennsylvania was about a peaceful form of it that's sort of silly but relatively harmless. After all, Nixon was a Quaker...

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-08-08   15:53:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: Vicomte13 (#170)

But she's a prissy girl with a big imagination.

We understand you are a Catholic and don't like "girls who don't know their place."

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-08   16:04:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: Vicomte13 (#171)

So they could found their OWN national church right here,

Really? What church would that be,and why haven't I ever heard of it?

and execute people for witchcraft and other snake-handling buffoonery.

Sounds to me like you are thinking of the Catholics.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-08   16:05:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: sneakypete (#172)

We understand you are a Catholic and don't like "girls who don't know their place."

That is true. I don't. When women run things, it's always a fucking disaster.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-08-08   16:07:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: sneakypete (#173)

eally? What church would that be,and why haven't I ever heard of it?

and execute people for witchcraft and other snake-handling buffoonery.

Sounds to me like you are thinking of the Catholics.

Puritans. All of New England. Salem Witch trials. Whipping and hanging Quakers for being Quaker. Seeking the lives of Anne Hutchinson and the Founder of RHode Island. That's how Rhode Island got there; Protestants fleeling from Protestant religious oppressions.

That's how Puritan New England got there: Protestants fleeing from Protestant religious oppression in England, and setting up their own over here. That's how Pennsylvania got there: Quaker Protestants fleeing the oppression of QUakers by English and German Protestants.

It's how the Scotch Irish got their: Scottish Presbyterians fleeing bad treatment at the hands of the English Anglican Establishment (both religious and economic mistreatment).

That's how the Virginia Cavaliers got there: Church of England types fleeing Puritan oppression in England once the Puritans won their civil war over there.

England was not a Catholic country when they founded their colonies. They were Protestant, and they enforced brutal conformity laws on other Protestants. English America from Virginia northwards, filled up with religious refugees fleeing oppression by other English Protestants. The Catholics had been gone from English governance and social life for nearly a hundred years by that point.

The only Catholics around in the British isles in any number were the Irish, and they were being murdered everywhere by the Presbyterians and then the Puritans, and just generally treated like shit by the English Anglican establishment. When the Irish Catholics came to America, THEY were ALSO fleeing religious oppression - by Protestants.

English-speaking America is chock full of people who originated fleeing PROTESTANT ENGLISH and PROTESTANT GERMAN religious oppression. Catholic Oppression occurred mostly on the Continent, and those Protestants who fled it simply fled to other Protestant countries in Europe. They didn't come to America, except for French Huguenots, like some of my ancestors.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-08-08   16:15:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: Vicomte13 (#175)

Puritans. All of New England.

Puritans didn't found this country. They were just a cult that moved into the northeast.

All of New England.

Still pretty much a shit hole ran by a cult. This one is named Communism.

Protestants fleeing from Protestant religious oppression in England, and setting up their own over here.

Yup,the Church of England. Thanks for helping me make my point about oppressive religions and political power.

England was not a Catholic country when they founded their colonies.

So what? They had just overthrown the Catholic Church a few short years earlier,and their new officlal religion was ran by people who grew up Catholic and that was the only way they knew to run a church.

Catholic Oppression occurred mostly on the Continent,

Not true. It occurred everywhere a Catholic Church existed EXCEPT for America,and you tried and are still trying here to this very day.

Look at the horrors the Catholics infliced on the peoples living in South American,Central America,and the Carribean Islands for examples of this.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-08   16:27:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: sneakypete (#176)

You are obsessed with fear of the Catholic Church.

The future holds the sum of all of your fears, for the American Protestants, the WASPs, are dying out, and being replaced in this land by Latin Catholics.

I hope you're old, because the day is coming when Catholics will predominate in this country. We've already changed the structure. it was Catholic votes, FDR's urban coalitions, that pressed through Social Security and Unemployment Benefits.

We've been winning for a century. We're going to win it all in the end. And things will be better for everybody when that happens.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-08-08   16:51:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: Vicomte13 (#177)

You are obsessed with fear of the Catholic Church.

Nope,but since you are,I can see why you would think I am.

What I AM obsessed with is personal freedoms,and personal freedoms are the enemy of all organized religions. The Catholic Church has been around longer than most of the others,and has a more documented history of abuse of power and brutality.

the American Protestants, the WASPs, are dying out, and being replaced in this land by Latin Catholics.

Admit it,it gives you wood to think that,doesn't it?

And what sane person WOULDN'T be upset over their country being taken over by a mass of illiterate superstitious peasants with no knowledge whatsoever of our culture or history,and no interest in learning about them?

I hope you're old, because the day is coming when Catholics will predominate in this country. We've already changed the structure. it was Catholic votes, FDR's urban coalitions, that pressed through Social Security and Unemployment Benefits.

We've been winning for a century. We're going to win it all in the end. And things will be better for everybody when that happens.

You just love being a slave,and can't wait for everyone else to be enslaved also.

You are also clearly insane.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-08   16:59:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: sneakypete (#178)

You are also clearly insane.

I'm simply right.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-08-08   17:00:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: Vicomte13 (#179)

You are also clearly insane.

I'm simply right.

See?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-08   17:00:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: sneakypete (#178)

And what sane person WOULDN'T be upset over their country being taken over by a mass of illiterate superstitious peasants with no knowledge whatsoever of our culture or history,and no interest in learning about them?

He has the same problem in France with all the Muzzies they let in, won't be long and it will be known as a Western Province of the Middle Eastern Caliphate.

You know maybe that's the reason he's here instead of being there?? Moved out to get away from the results of their stupid ideology but insisting it is adopted here. Kinda like those from any Leftard Ghetto moving to Texas...

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-08-08   17:32:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: sneakypete (#178) (Edited)

You are obsessed with fear of the Catholic Church.

Nope, but since you are,I can see why you would think I am.

He's sounding more and more like Meguro with every post. Guess he hasn't figured out yet that you can't hide the truth using that tactic, it just doesn't work with some people...

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-08-08   17:34:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: CZ82 (#181)

You know maybe that's the reason he's here instead of being there?? Moved out to get away from the results of their stupid ideology but insisting it is adopted here.

Chances are he is here to push for illegal immigrants because he sees it as a quick route to returning the evil bastards that run the Catholic Church to power.

He cares about nothing other than what is good for "Holy Mother Church".

And people still wonder why I am opposed to religion in government and power for fundies of any stripe.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-08   19:01:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: CZ82 (#182)

He's sounding more and more like Meguro with every post.

You can NOT be a devout Christian of any stripe without being a leftist.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-08   19:02:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: Rufus T Firefly (#86)

Time will tell, but, I am convinced that Donald Trump is the real thing, that he has every reason to see the nation return to capitalism.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-08-10   13:23:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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