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Title: Anyone watching the debate? You can post thoughts here
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Published: Aug 6, 2015
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Post Date: 2015-08-06 20:56:58 by Rufus T Firefly
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#129. To: CZ82 (#74)

He refused to say that he would support the REP nominee if it wasn't him. That's chicken sh*t then, now and always.

Ahhh yes support the nimrod that the establishment nominates, where has that thought process gotten this country in the last 80 years??

Then why run for the nomination at all if you don't like the nimrods running it? Have some integrity, honesty, character, conjones, etc. and run 3rd party right off. Don't be a cry baby take my ball home asshole because you didn't win then pretend that it wasn't all that important to you because you really didn't want to be a member of that club anyhow. Chicken sh*t is as chicken sh*t does. And Trump is pure chicken sh*t.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-08-07   17:17:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: SOSO (#129)

Chicken sh*t is as chicken sh*t does. And Trump is pure chicken sh*t.

Lots of folks are on the Trump band wagon.

It reminds me of the Perot phenomenon. I'm watching and am careful not to attack those who are supportive of him.

p.s. I share your thoughts on him.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-08-07   17:27:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: Fred Mertz (#130)

Lots of folks are on the Trump band wagon.

Ditto Obama. How do you like them apples?

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-08-07   17:34:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: redleghunter (#122)

Plus unlike our American Christian tradition, Islam is inherently political from its inception.

I have to disagree with that one. Anyone even remotely familiar with the history of the Catholic Church knows that for hundreds of years it functioned as a arm of government everywhere it planted roots.

They even had their own courts and their own sentencing for anyone they accused of committing religious crimes.

In fact,not too long ago they were still playing these brutal games in Ireland.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-07   18:49:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: Vicomte13 (#125)

Therefore, the moral jurisdiction of the Catholic Church, as God's One True Faith, properly extends over every human on earth, and over every acre of soil.

Therefore, there is no "manning up" and moving to Rome. Every zip code on earth properly belongs to us.

Through conversion and settlement the people of God seek to people the whole world and subdue her.

Uh,huh.

And the difference between fundie Catholics like you and fundie Muslims is you spell "Sharia Law" differently?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-07   18:53:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: SOSO, CZ82 (#129)

Then why run for the nomination at all if you don't like the nimrods running it? Have some integrity, honesty, character, conjones, etc. and run 3rd party right off.

Because a valid case can be made that we haven't had an actual Republican Presidential nominee since Reagan. They have all be Dims in Republican clothing.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-07   19:43:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: Fred Mertz, SOSO (#130)

Lots of folks are on the Trump band wagon.

It reminds me of the Perot phenomenon.

Trump is Perot without all the class business acumen. Perot actually created new businesses that put people to work. All Trump has ever done was bankrupt companies and put people out of work as he makes his money selling the bones.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-07   19:45:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: sneakypete (#133)

Uh,huh.

And the difference between fundie Catholics like you and fundie Muslims is you spell "Sharia Law" differently?

No. The difference is that the content of our moral code is quite different.

Their Allah permits them to marry multiple women and to beat them to keep them in line. Our Jesus permits us to marry only one, for life, as our helper and lover.

Their Allah demands that they make war on all of the infidels unto the end of the world. Our Jesus commands us to be peaceful and turn the other cheek.

Their Allah permits them to lie in order to advance their cause, because deception is legitimate in war, and they are always at war until the whole world is Muslim. Our Jesus commands us not to lie.

Their Allah and our Jesus demand everything of us - in that sense the Muslim and the Christian are parallel. But precisely WHAT Allah demands and WHAT Jesus demands is what makes all of the difference.

The Third Reich and the USA both had governments. They both had leaders, budgets and police forces. In that sense, they were very similar. But the content of their respective laws as different, and that made all the difference.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-08-07   20:15:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: Vicomte13 (#136)

Our Jesus commands us to be peaceful and turn the other cheek.

Maybe,but nobody listens,or there wouldn't have been a war with the Protestants that lasted several hundred years.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-07   20:38:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: Stoner (#118)

Maybe, but I certainly always enjoy watching anyone slapping Chris Matthews around!

No maybe to it. She was fired from Hewlett Packard because of incompetence. She looked te part and playacted the part, but was a disaster.

rlk  posted on  2015-08-07   20:59:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: SOSO (#128) (Edited)

Wrongo. There are things such as character, integrity, honor, decency, etc. that do matter very much - at least in my book.

Honor and decency? You're talking about endorsing the Stain.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-07   21:07:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: rlk (#138)

OK Robert, I take your word for it. Until now, I knew nothing about her, only her name and the fact that she was part of a high tech company. That was the extent of my knowledge about her. But I still liked her giving Chrissy Mathews some shit!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-08-07   21:08:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: sneakypete (#137)

Maybe,but nobody listens,or there wouldn't have been a war with the Protestants that lasted several hundred years.

Few listen. That's true. It's the tragedy of our race.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-08-07   21:17:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: TooConservative (#139)

Wrongo. There are things such as character, integrity, honor, decency, etc. that do matter very much - at least in my book.

Honor and decency? You're talking about endorsing the Stain.

If Stain was good enough for you to be included as a front runner in the party that you wanted to win over, yes honor and decency. If the Wizard had a problem with McCain or any of the front runners in the REP Party WTF is doing running in that party other than to use the party to gain national visibility and the money that comes with that?

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-08-07   21:19:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: sneakypete, CZ82 (#134)

Then why run for the nomination at all if you don't like the nimrods running it? Have some integrity, honesty, character, conjones, etc. and run 3rd party right off. Because a valid case can be made that we haven't had an actual Republican Presidential nominee since Reagan. They have all be Dims in Republican clothing.

So run 3rd Party right off.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-08-07   21:21:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: Stoner (#140)

Until now, I knew nothing about her, only her name and the fact that she was part of a high tech company. That was the extent of my knowledge about her.

That's what she is counting on. If you're not familiar with HP, their history, and haven't used their equipment, it's easy for her to strut into a room, announce she was a former CEO and pull the wool over people's eyes.

rlk  posted on  2015-08-07   21:24:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: SOSO (#143)

So run 3rd Party right off.

Why? Why not run as an actual Republican since no one else is? Let THEM run for a 3rd party seat.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-07   21:37:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: sneakypete (#145)

Why? Why not run as an actual Republican since no one else is? Let THEM run for a 3rd party seat.

Very correct with a minor caveat; they should be running on the Democrat ticket, it makes more sense.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-08-07   22:09:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: buckeroo (#146)

Very correct with a minor caveat; they should be running on the Democrat ticket, it makes more sense.

How so?

He's opposed to illegal immigration (and the only one on the Republican side willing to make a point of it).

He favors a common market in health insurance - a market-based solution to an insurance crisis. That's better than either party has come up with to date.

He talks as tough on ISIS as any Republican.

He believes in business.

What makes Donald Trump a Democrat? And why should a Republican like him get out of the way of those other weak sister losers up on stage with him?

Donald Trump is a winner. Always has been. He's charismatic and can lead people. And does.

So what is it about that that makes him not a Republican?

Oh, wait, he's a winner, not a loser, he's charismatic and can lead people. Yeah, that's definitely not the Republican style.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-08-07   22:28:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: Vicomte13 (#147)

All republicans love illegal aliens. That is why America has NAFTA and CAFTA which has created the almost 50,000,000 illegal alien immigration march into the USA.

What the political punks have done is simple to explain: beg to be a Democrat to further weaken America's borders while inviting illegal aliens to vote. And, do not enforce the existing laws.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-08-07   22:34:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: Vicomte13 (#147)

What makes Donald Trump a Democrat?

His love for the Democratic Party; it is called donations to the tune of millions of dollars.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-08-07   22:40:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: Pericles (#123)

Go! I'm sure there is some Eastern Orthodox church near you.

"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-07   23:45:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: Vicomte13 (#126)

Ah yes. You are correct sir.

"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-07   23:46:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: sneakypete, TooConservative (#132)

I have to disagree with that one. Anyone even remotely familiar with the history of the Catholic Church knows that for hundreds of years it functioned as a arm of government everywhere it planted roots.

They even had their own courts and their own sentencing for anyone they accused of committing religious crimes.

In fact,not too long ago they were still playing these brutal games in Ireland.

But not in the USA. "Popery" was kept in check here in the USA.

"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-07   23:57:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: TooConservative (#63)

I just saw Carly Fiorina on Chris Matthews. She is very sharp. I like her.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-08-08   0:34:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: redleghunter (#150) (Edited)

Go! I'm sure there is some Eastern Orthodox church near you.

I meant doing more than services - like being around the church all the time. The church was my day care up to the 6th grade.

Pericles  posted on  2015-08-08   0:57:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: sneakypete (#137)

Our Jesus commands us to be peaceful and turn the other cheek.

Maybe,but nobody listens,or there wouldn't have been a war with the Protestants that lasted several hundred years.

Ummm I don't think it has ever stopped, the Catholics and self appointed ruling class want to keep their power.

http://www.talk2action.org/story/2013/6/2/21262/88725/Front_Page/The_NeoCon_War_ Against_the_Mainline_Protestant_Churches_Continues

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-08-08   9:01:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: SOSO (#142)

If Stain was good enough for you to be included as a front runner in the party that you wanted to win over, yes honor and decency.

He wasn't good enough it was only his turn.

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-08-08   9:04:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: SOSO (#142)

WTF is doing running in that party other than to use the party to gain national visibility and the money that comes with that?

Maybe trying to do what a large portion of the population of this country want, to take back the party from all the faux conservatives...

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-08-08   9:06:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: Chuck_Wagon (#124)

My girlfriend watched it and said that she was utterly disgusted by Kasich, the Ohio Governor.

So are a lot of people in Ohio but they don't outnumber those wanting a handout so he got re-elected.

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-08-08   9:09:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: redleghunter (#152)

But not in the USA. "Popery" was kept in check here in the USA.

It was a big issue in the early post-colonial period. Preachers like Increase Mather often inveighed against the papist hordes of Canada and the threat they posed.

America has been a paranoid country from the get-go.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-08   10:08:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: CZ82 (#158) (Edited)

So are a lot of people in Ohio but they don't outnumber those wanting a handout so he got re-elected.

I recall he won 76 of 78 counties in the state. Far more popular than Perry was in Texas in his last election or Walker in WI or Jindal in LA or Bush in his last election in FL.

Not that I like Kasich. But we'll hear arguments on electability with Bush (or Rubio) to carry FL and Kasich to carry OH as VP. With the Dems having an automatic vote of 240+ EC votes and the GOP in the range of 180, FL and OH (and TX) are must-win for the GOP to win the WH.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-08   10:09:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: TooConservative (#160)

So are a lot of people in Ohio but they don't outnumber those wanting a handout so he got re-elected.

I recall he won 76 of 78 counties in the state.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/12/ohios-kasich-ignores-legislature-on-obamacare- medicaid-funds/

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-08-08   10:15:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: CZ82 (#161)

Squishy as he is, Kasich is pretty popular in OH. Not easy for recent governors of either party.

Kasich is closer to a moderate Dim than a conservative Republican overall. He has reformed OH to some extent, largely because it was so grossly mismanaged previously and the legislature acquiesced to Kasich, knowing they could blame him if it went south on him.

As with Romney and Christie, I am a little suspicious of Republican governors hired to clean up after a liberal state has totally screwed up their state. You notice that these "fixers" leave office unpopular (Romney, Christie, Jindal, Huckabee even) and they take the hits to get necessary things done and the state's libs use the newly solvent finances of the state to embark on their next liberal spending spree.

Then you have other GOP governors like Walker or Mitch Daniels who fought tough battles, reformed a mismanaged liberal state and actually grew the GOP voter base in that state and influenced other states. These are a much more effective kind of GOP pol IMO.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-08   10:28:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: redleghunter (#152)

But not in the USA. "Popery" was kept in check here in the USA.

And thank goodness for that!

The Catholic Church and The Reformation were why the Founding Fathers insisted on Freedom of Religion,and that includes freedom FROM religion.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-08   14:36:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: Vicomte13 (#153)

I just saw Carly Fiorina on Chris Matthews. She is very sharp. I like her.

A AA version of Trump in a dress,but to give her credit,she probably is smarter than him.

She was running HP into bankruptcy and they had to buy her out early to save the company.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-08   14:38:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: CZ82 (#155)

I just saw Carly Fiorina on Chris Matthews. She is very sharp. I like her.

True,but at least the world has stopped them from having their own courts and boiled people to death in pots of oil.

They even wore their crap out in Ireland,and I never thought I would live to see the day that happened.

Now their strategy seems to be to take over the world using 3rd world immigrants to bankrupt governments,or in the case of the US flood us with 3rd world Catholics and take over by putting them on the dole and and getting voter cards for them. The Dims used welfare as a method to enslave the blacks,and now the Catholics are going to use welfare to enslave the browns so they vote for pro-Catholic candidates.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-08   14:42:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: CZ82, SOSO (#156)

If Stain was good enough for you to be included as a front runner in the party that you wanted to win over, yes honor and decency.

He wasn't good enough it was only his turn.

I believe we have now devolved into a One Party Nation,and the ruling class keep that a secret from the drones by making sure each branch of the ruling party gets it's turn in the WH.

The Dims have had it for 8 years now,so the next president will be an alleged Republican,regardless of who the nominee ends up being.

And the new president will be just one more in a long string go globalists that is no more Republican or Conservative than your pet dog.

It's just a shell game. McLunatic got picked to run because he was certain to lose. Everytime Palin fell off-program and started to talk conservative his poll numbers went up,and she had to be slapped back into line again lest he actually win.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-08   14:47:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: TooConservative (#159)

America has been a paranoid country from the get-go.

With good reason. The people that founded this nation didn't come here because they had nothing better to do. They came her to get out of Europe and out from under the thumbs of the national churches.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-08   14:49:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: sneakypete (#167) (Edited)

With good reason. The people that founded this nation didn't come here because they had nothing better to do. They came her to get out of Europe and out from under the thumbs of the national churches.

Sure. But we're paranoid even when we have no reason to be.

Like a herd of easily spooked heifers.

And we like to think that anything that even remotely alarms us automatically justifies doing anything to other countries. Like the invasion of Iraq after 9/11. No connection between Saddam and 9/11 but the country was easily stampeded into it.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-08   14:52:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: TooConservative (#168)

Sure. But we're paranoid even when we have no reason to be.

There is ALWAYS a need to be paranoid because there IS always someone out to get you if you let your guard down.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-08   15:05:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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