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Foreign Invaders crisis cost $150B in 2023, forcing some areas to cut police and fire services: report Israel kills head of Hezbollah Intelligence. Status: Not Logged In; Sign In Watching The Cops See other Watching The Cops Articles Title: Video: Ohio cop indicted on murder charge in shooting Officer has said he was dragged by suspect's car and was forced to shoot Source: Associated Press URL Source: [None] Published: Jul 30, 2015 Author: By Lisa Cornwell Associated Press Post Date: 2015-07-30 10:39:43 by GrandIsland Keywords: None Views: 40132 Comments: 189 CINCINNATI — A University of Cincinnati officer who shot a motorist during a traffic stop over a missing front license plate was indicted Wednesday on a murder charge, with a prosecutor saying the officer "purposely killed him" and "should never have been a police officer." Hamilton County Prosecutor Joe Deters announced the grand jury indictment at a news conference to discuss developments in the investigation into the July 19 shooting of 43-year-old motorist Samuel DuBose by Officer Ray Tensing. Authorities have said Tensing spotted a car driven by DuBose and missing the front license plate, which is required by Ohio law. They say Tensing stopped the car and a struggle ensued after DuBose refused to provide a driver's license and get out of the car. Tensing, 25, has said he was dragged by the car and forced to shoot at DuBose. He fired once, striking DuBose in the head. But Deters dismissed Tensing's claim that he was dragged by the car and suggested that he shouldn't have pulled DuBose over to begin with. "He fell backward after he shot (DuBose) in the head," Deters said, adding that it was a "chicken crap" traffic stop. On footage released from the body-camera video Wednesday, the officer could be heard asking for DuBose's driver's license several times with DuBose at one point saying he had one. Later, DuBose said, "But I don't think I have it on me." Tensing asks DuBose to unbuckle his seat belt. About that time Tensing pulls on the door handle, and DuBose puts his hand on the door to keep it closed. Then the video becomes shaky, but a gunshot can be heard and DuBose appears to be slumped in the seat before the car rolls away, coming to stop at a nearby corner. The University of Cincinnati said it fired Tensing after his indictment. Tensing turned himself in Wednesday afternoon at the Hamilton County Justice Center and was processed on charges of murder and voluntary manslaughter. Tensing's attorney, Stewart Mathews, didn't return phone messages seeking comment after the indictment announcement. Mathews said earlier Wednesday that he thought an indictment was likely "given the political climate" and comments made by city officials. But Mathews said given the evidence he's seen, he doesn't believe there should be an indictment. DuBose's death comes amid months of national scrutiny of police dealings with African-Americans, especially those killed by officers. DuBose was black. Tensing is white. Authorities haven't indicated whether race was a part of the investigation. Body-camera video of the shooting was also released Wednesday. DuBose's family had been pressing for its release, and news organizations including The Associated Press had sued Deters to get it released under Ohio open records law, but Deters released it before any ruling had been made. Deters called the shooting "senseless" and "asinine." "He purposely killed him," Deters said. "He should never have been a police officer." The prosecutor also said he thought it was time to reconsider the UC police department's role. "I don't think a university should be in the policing business," Deters said. A message for comment was left Wednesday with the police department. The university said earlier this week it plans an independent review of its police department's policies. The UC officer made the traffic stop near the university's main campus, and UC police have said the intersection was within the campus police's jurisdiction. The University of Cincinnati on Wednesday closed its main campus in anticipation of grand jury action in the case. Mark O'Mara, attorney for DuBose's family, called for a "peaceful and nonaggressive" response from the community after the officer's indictment. O'Mara said the family wanted a peaceful reaction because "Sam was a peaceful person." Tensing has more than five years of experience in law enforcement and has worked as a University of Cincinnati police officer since April 2014, said Jason Goodrich, UC police chief. His annual performance review this April noted that he was extremely strong in the traffic area and maintains control of his weapons and of "situations he is involved in." Tensing formerly worked as an officer in the small Cincinnati suburban village of Greenhills. Deters said when he saw the video of the shooting, he was shocked. "I feel so sorry for this family and what they lost," Deters said. "And I feel sorry for the community, too." If convicted, Tensing could face up to life in prison. Poster Comment: Deckard is losing his mind. He spends time posting garbage by Free Thought Project, where most of the shit he posts has to be written in such a bias way to give the appearance of police misconduct, AND HERE IS A CLEAR CASE OF A BAD OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING... and Deckard doesn't post it. Well I will. This officer should be wood chipped. Hopefully someone here can post the VIDEO... you'll cringe watching it. Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 157. #4. To: GrandIsland (#0) AND HERE IS A CLEAR CASE OF A BAD OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING... and Deckard doesn't post it. Yeah, I was going to post a thread, thinking the same thing. You suppose FreeThoughtProject is going to feature this story? I think it will fall into a dusty corner of their newsroom and never be heard from again. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-07-30   11:24:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: TooConservative (#4) Here's the full video. Listen to the exchange at 4:20 (just three minutes after the shooting) -- "He was dragging me. Yeah, I saw that." Another officer's body cam shows him (at :55) knocked to the ground: The truth? I don't know. But there's enough just in the video for reasonable doubt. If he gets a fair trial with an impartial jury. But white-cop-black-victim? I agree with his attorney. Everyone is throwing him under the bus. misterwhite  posted on  2015-07-30   11:48:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: misterwhite (#7) He shot the guy while reaching in the car with one hand... the guy was unarmed and even if the shitbird was trying to flee, Tennessee Vs Garner states the officer isn't authorized to shoot just because a suspect flees. The officer wasn't being "dragged" and he was quickly terminated. It was a bad shoot. GrandIsland  posted on  2015-07-30   14:40:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #17. To: GrandIsland (#16) "Tennessee Vs Garner states the officer isn't authorized to shoot just because a suspect flees." Correct. But Tennessee Vs Garner isn't applicable here. If the officer is being dragged by car driven by a fleeing suspect, he's allowed to use deadly force. The officer wasn't being "dragged" How do you know that? You don't. I even posted a video where the other officer said he saw him being dragged. What, your armchair speculation trumps his eyewitness account? misterwhite  posted on  2015-07-30   15:05:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #18. To: misterwhite (#17) Correct. But Tennessee Vs Garner isn't applicable here. If the officer is being dragged by car driven by a fleeing suspect, he's allowed to use deadly forcd. Correct... but that's not what happened. Big difference in being dragged by the car and REACHING IN WILLINGLY, and trying to hold onto the shitbird. He wasn't dragged... The chest cam shows he reached in with his left hand and upholstered, simultaneously, with his right hand. The jury will see that this officer shot the shitbird because the shitbird was gonna drive away. This is why it's sometimes smart, when you notice one of your communities finist, behind the wheel of your traffic stop, to instruct the douche bag to turn the vehicle off. Even if that upsets Deckard. GrandIsland  posted on  2015-07-30   15:24:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: GrandIsland (#18) "to instruct the douche bag to turn the vehicle off." The engine was turned off. You can see (and hear) in the video that Mr. Douchbag started the car. The traffic stop was over as far as HE was concerned. "and REACHING IN WILLINGLY" It could be that he was reaching in to shut off the car. Now if you want to say he shouldn't have done that, I agree. But it doesn't change anything. The guy drove away with the cop's arm in the car, and the cop says he was dragged. And another cop confirmed that. The prosecutor is a gutless chickenshit dickwad. He doesn't want another Ferguson. Or another Trayvon. So he's going for murder ... or voluntary manslaughter ... or whatever charge he can get a jury to agree on. misterwhite  posted on  2015-07-30   16:42:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #20. To: misterwhite (#19) I view the video different. Post the video from the dash cam that shows him being dragged even an inch. All I saw was the officer reach with the left hand, pull back as he shot the perp in the head with his strong hand... and fell backwards from pulling back. Then the car, rolled on its own down the street. GrandIsland  posted on  2015-07-30   16:59:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #21. To: GrandIsland (#20) "Post the video from the dash cam" Dash cam? Oh, that's so 2014. Everyone demanded body cams, remember? THAT was the ultimate answer to all our problems. So police departments got body cams. Now you want the dash cam back. Hey, I know. Lets have a dash cam, a body cam and a drone overhead. All that plus your support of bystanders getting in the way recording the event should do it, right? Or should they wait and call CNN, too? Let's force everyone to do their jobs with this kind of coverage and see how they like it. misterwhite  posted on  2015-07-30   17:17:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #23. To: misterwhite (#21) Dash cam? Oh, that's so 2014. Did you or did you not say another officers in car cam shows this officer getting dragged? I wanna see it. The body cam doesn't support that. The body cam shows him shooting the douche in the head and falling backwards. GrandIsland  posted on  2015-07-30   18:01:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #25. To: GrandIsland (#23) "Did you or did you not say another officers in car cam shows this officer getting dragged?" It was another officer's body cam showing him on the ground after he extricated himself from the car. And there's a video which has yet another cop saying he saw him being dragged. See my post #7. misterwhite  posted on  2015-07-30   18:16:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #27. To: misterwhite (#25) See my post #7. I saw your post 7. I did not show the videos you claim. Post 7 is worthless towards innocence or guilt. I'll go by his body cam... it doesn't look good for the officer. GrandIsland  posted on  2015-07-30   18:34:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #28. To: GrandIsland (#27) "I saw your post 7. I did not show the videos you claim." Seems to me you won't be satisfied until you see the IMAX version of the event with multiple cameras and surround sound. How in the hell did we figure things out before there were cameras? misterwhite  posted on  2015-07-30   18:48:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #30. To: misterwhite (#28) Seems to me you won't be satisfied until you see the IMAX version of the event with multiple cameras and surround sound. How in the hell did we figure things out before there were cameras? That's the problem right there. Before body cams, I'd have believed the officer when he said he was dragged. Without anything other than the word of the officer and the word of s shitbird, I'll almost always side with the officer... But now the body cam doesn't show (IMHO) what the officer claims gave him justification to use DPF... so yes, I WANT IMAX if you are claiming your opinion is swayed by video other then this. GrandIsland  posted on  2015-07-30   19:08:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #34. To: GrandIsland (#30) "Without anything other than the word of the officer and the word of s shitbird" There are two videos which support his statement that he was dragged and now two eyewitness cops who agree. Now, the word "dragged" may not be the best word to describe what happened. I believe his left arm was in the car and that it got jammed on something when the driver started to pull away. Fearing he may be dragged, he fired then extricated himself. Some people have examined the video and claim (according to his lawyer) that he was on the ground 20 feet away from the initial stop. If that's true was he justified in shooting? misterwhite  posted on  2015-07-31   12:22:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #38. To: misterwhite (#34) Now, the word "dragged" may not be the best word to describe what happened. I believe his left arm was in the car and that it got jammed on something when the driver started to pull away. Fearing he may be dragged, he fired then extricated himself. What did he do, thread his arm through (and around) the steering wheel or the headrest or stick his hands down the driver's pants or something? You're just making stuff up now. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-07-31   13:31:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #40. To: TooConservative (#38) What did he do, thread his arm through (and around) the steering wheel or the headrest or stick his hands down the driver's pants or something? He reached in to try and grab the driver with his left hand/arm... drew his service weapon with his right hand... and as the driver was going to drive off... in that quick instant and excitement, he shot the fucker in the head... and fell backwards after firing the gun... with the driver dead and slumped to the passenger side, the car rolled forward until it struck a pole on the corner (low speed collision) That's what his chest cam shows. GrandIsland  posted on  2015-07-31   14:01:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #47. To: GrandIsland (#40) "He reached in to try and grab the driver with his left hand/arm..." He had just asked the driver to remove his seat belt. The driver refused. It's possible he was reaching for the seat belt release, not the driver. "in that quick instant and excitement, he shot the fucker in the head... and fell backwards after firing the gun..." So he should have fallen where he stood, correct? Not 20 feet further down the street? "That's what his chest cam shows." More like what you see in the video recorded by the chest cam. misterwhite  posted on  2015-07-31   15:06:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #53. To: misterwhite (#47) He had just asked the driver to remove his seat belt. The driver refused. It's possible he was reaching for the seat belt release, not the driver. It is bad procedure to start manhandling someone sitting their car. The police should order them out of the car, not try to start scuffling with a driver behind the wheel. Or maybe you're happier if they just put a bullet in their head for not having a front plate and fleeing the fuzz? In a country as monumentally lawless as America has become in the Obola era and you want to enforce minor traffic laws to support taxfeeders to the extent of capital punishment for a missing plate? Tooconservative  posted on  2015-07-31   17:46:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #60. To: TooConservative (#53) "It is bad procedure to start manhandling someone sitting their car." Be that as it may, we've seen other videos where the individual was dragged from the car by the police. Usually accompanied by a post from you decrying police brutality. "Or maybe you're happier if they just put a bullet in their head for not having a front plate and fleeing the fuzz?" I note you've now added "and fleeing the fuzz". When you add "and dragging a cop" I'll answer your question in the affirmative. misterwhite  posted on  2015-07-31   20:23:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #66. To: misterwhite (#60) Be that as it may, we've seen other videos where the individual was dragged from the car by the police. Usually accompanied by a post from you decrying police brutality. You're just making stuff up because you're trying to defend the indefensible. What, you've sunk to licking the jackboots of a mere college mall cop? Tooconservative  posted on  2015-07-31   21:28:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #71. To: TooConservative (#66) I answered your question. Are you going to answer mine? misterwhite  posted on  2015-07-31   22:09:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #73. To: misterwhite (#71) I answered your question. Are you going to answer mine? What was the question? Tooconservative  posted on  2015-07-31   22:20:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #76. To: TooConservative (#73) "What was the question?" Actually there were two: 1) Assuming the cop's arm was caught in the moving car and the cop feared he might be dragged to death, was he justified in shooting the driver? 2) Why did he flee the police for a mere license plate violation? misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-01   10:36:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #81. To: misterwhite (#76) 1) Assuming the cop's arm was caught in the moving car and the cop feared he might be dragged to death, was he justified in shooting the driver? Judging by the video, that was less than a half-second before he was clear of the vehicle on the video. You are asking for an answer to a question that is bootless in this situation. You're saying that, from the time the victim put his car in gear, the cop was making a decision about being dragged and having the time to decide he was in danger and pull the gun and aim and fire. I see nothing in this video to suggest that your scenario applies. 2) Why did he flee the police for a mere license plate violation? I think it doesn't matter. I note that you are suggesting that it is somehow fine for police to shoot anyone who flees from them. Fleeing police is not a capital offense, subject to summary execution on the streets. You don't seem to understand that. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-01   12:49:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #86. To: TooConservative (#81) You are asking for an answer to a question that is bootless in this situation. Bootless? It was his statement backed up by two eyewitnesses and multiple videos. Nothing contradicts any of that (other than your personal interpretation). Yet I answered your "bootless" question which omitted all of that factual evidence. "Why did he flee the police for a mere license plate violation?" "I think it doesn't matter." I see. NOW it doesn't matter. It mattered when you brought it up. It mattered when is was a mere license plate infraction. But then the driver turns a warning into a felony and to you it doesn't matter why. "Fleeing police is not a capital offense, subject to summary execution on the streets. You don't seem to understand that." You asked me that question before, I answered it, and you didn't read it? Then why should I bother? misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-01   14:28:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #95. To: misterwhite (#86) Bootless? It was his statement backed up by two eyewitnesses and multiple videos. It is not. I don't think the other Kampus Kop will help alibi him. His statement sounds very confused, like someone caught in a lie. The other eyewitness, according to the D.A., is going to testify it was a murder. And you keep harping on how this guy's arm was caught yet you never provide any credible explanation as to how he got his arm caught or what his arm was caught on so that he feared being dragged. Since he didn't get dragged and the car moved away, in what way did shooting this helpless (now-dead) driver help him to get his arm free so he would stop being dragged? In short, you're an idiot. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-01   19:42:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #96. To: TooConservative (#95) "I don't think the other Kampus Kop will help alibi him. His statement sounds very confused, like someone caught in a lie." It was made only minutes after the shooting. He didn't have time to sit down and compose it. "The other eyewitness, according to the D.A., is going to testify it was a murder." So he's changing his official story after talking to the DA. The defense will have a field day with that. "And you keep harping on how this guy's arm was caught yet you never provide any credible explanation as to how he got his arm caught or what his arm was caught on so that he feared being dragged." WTF? How should I know? He SAID his arm was stuck. Two eyewitnesses said his arm was stuck. Two videos don't show anything contrary. He ended up on the ground 20 feet from the initial stop. Now, was he dragged, heels scraping the ground, dangling by one arm? No. Nobody claims that, so stop asking for proof of it. misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-02   8:53:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #101. To: misterwhite, GrandIsland, A K A Stone (#96) Now, was he dragged, heels scraping the ground, dangling by one arm? No. Nobody claims that, so stop asking for proof of it. Grabbing onto something inside a car and refusing to let go is not being dragged. And if he wasn't being dragged, then this was murder. And a jury will convict him in minutes, not days. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-02   9:25:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #104. To: TooConservative, A K A Stone (#101) (Edited) Grabbing onto something inside a car and refusing to let go is not being dragged. And if he wasn't being dragged, then this was murder. And a jury will convict him in minutes, not days. Spot on... This officer, in the heat of the moment and excitement, made a poor split decision. He should have left his service weapon in his holster, let go of the driver AND GAVE CHASE WITH THE PATROL CAR. Stone is right tho, a jury may give the officer benefit of the doubt and not convict him... and we'll have another wonderful riot. GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-02   10:45:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #107. To: GrandIsland, misterwhite (#104) Stone is right tho, a jury may give the officer benefit of the doubt and not convict him... and we'll have another wonderful riot. I saw the prosecutor, very calm and deliberate. He charged both murder and involuntary manslaughter. It's a very easy bet he has enough evidence and eyewitness support to secure at least one conviction. Tensing is going down. It will be a fairly brief trial too. I still don't get why Kampus Kops are stopping someone for a plate violation. Maybe the laws are different there. In places I've lived, campus police stay on the actual campus and don't get involved in things like statutory vehicle infractions like plates or inspection stickers. And campus police never shoot people, outside of some armed nutjob like the UVa shooter. A campus cop is so worried about a missing plate infraction that the (non-student) driver ends up dead? Of course, this story merely tends to confirm my own bias against campus police. I prefer to see regular police and sheriffs' departments used in almost any instance. So I guess I'm fairly unfriendly to the entire idea of a campus police unit. The real problem is lack of training and recruitment, it seems. When things get gritty like a mass shooting, campus police are ineffective. It seems to me a diversion of funding from legitimate local police agencies. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-02   11:00:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #110. To: TooConservative (#107) "I saw the prosecutor, very calm and deliberate." misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-02   11:24:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #112. To: misterwhite, GrandIsland (#110) That video hurts your case. They take a shot at the prosecutor, that he is talking too much. It seems a long stretch for them to compare his statements to what Mosely did in Baltimore which was egregious prosecutorial misconduct, in the Nifong range. Notice that both attorneys are agreeing that he will be convicted. It is possible, as suggested, that the murder charge is intended to force a guilty plea to the involuntary manslaughter charge. There are a few peculiarities of Ohio criminal law to consider as well. Like it or not, every state has its own criminal statutes with a considerable amount of variety among them. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-02   11:33:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #118. To: TooConservative (#112) "That video hurts your case." I posted the video to dispute your claim that the prosecutor is some kind of calm and deliberate official. "Despite the good will his prosecution of the Tensing case will likely bring, questions of Deters’ professional ethics continue to hound him. In 2000, for example, the Cincinnati Enquirer found that the Ohio Supreme Court has criticized the Hamilton County Prosecutor Office for making improper courtroom statements to secure 14 death penalty cases from 1988 to 2000. These statements — meant to solicit an emotional response from juries or to paint the defense in a poor light — is frown upon during capital offense cases, where facts are meant to be the exclusive determining factor in guilt." "Deters’ ethics were further tested when, in 2004, Matt Borges, a former chief of staff and fundraiser for Deter, plead guilty in a “pay-to-play” scandal. Borges gave 10 brokers that contributed to Deters’ campaign fund preferential treatment in securing state Treasurer’s Office contracts. Borges’ conviction was joined by a guilty plea by Eric Sagun, who also raised money for Deters. Sagun solicited $50,000 from convicted Cleveland-area broker Frank Gruttadauria in 2001 with the understanding the funds will make it to Deters’ campaign fund." "While Deters was not convicted in regards to any of these scandals, they continue to cast a dark shadow against his reputation. One situation in which his ethics are being called into question is the retrial of suspended Hamilton County Juvenile Court Judge Tracie Hunter on the dismissed charge of misusing a county credit card. Many in Cincinnati’s black community allege that Deters has a personal vendetta against Hunter, who was convicted in 2014 on a single count of misusing her authority as a judge to provide documentation to her brother before a disciplinary hearing." (http://heavy.com/news/2015/07/joe-deters-ray-tensing-samuel-dubose-prosecutor- cincinnati-hamilton-county-ohio-police-shooting/) misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-02   12:03:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #120. To: misterwhite, GrandIsland, A K A Stone (#118) An earlier 2014 traffic stop by Tensing: A video posted in May 2014 shows University of Cincinnati police officer Ray Tensing involved in a contentious traffic stop a year before he shot Sam Dubose. New video reveals moment campus cop accused of killing unarmed Samuel DuBose was involved in ANOTHER heated and aggressive traffic stop in 2014 Ray Tensing, 25, was filmed pulling over two men in May last year Asks to see passenger's ID, who refuses, sparking argument Tensing refuses to answer questions and is called 'incompetent' in stop After supervisor intervenes, the two men are allowed to go Tensing shot and killed unarmed driver Samuel DuBose this week in Cincinnati, Ohio - and is now facing murder charges This is the moment Cincinnati campus cop Ray Tensing was caught up in a heated traffic stop a year before he allegedly murdered a driver he had pulled over. Tensing, 25, is seen arguing with two men in a he car pulled over last May. They accuse him of harassing them, breaching their rights and being generally 'incompetent'. The officer, who worked for the University of Cincinnati campus force, argues with the men over IDs and whether he has the right to detain them, before a supervisor intervenes and lets the men go. Footage of the stoppage, taken by passenger Demetrius Pace, gives an insight into the policing style of Tensing, who rose to notoriety this week after shooting unarmed Samuel DuBose in the head during another traffic stop. Tensing has since been indicted for murder over the stop, which shows him speaking with DuBose, 43, after pulling him over about a license plate. Not long into the encounter, the two argue over a driver's license, which DuBose says he does not have with him. He later gets agitated and turns the ignition key in his car. After a struggle over the vehicle's door, Tensing draws his weapon, reaches in and shoots DuBose once in the head, killing him. The campus police department fired him as soon as the charges were filed, prompting Tensing to immediately demand his job back. The older footage, which Pace uploaded to YouTube, shows Tensing stopping him and his friend Sexton Henley over a dragging bumper plate. It devolves into bickering after Tensing asks Pace to identify himself, and he refuses. Under Ohio law, people only have to identify themselves to police if the officer suspects them of a criminal offense or thinks they witnesses a felony - neither of which apply in a traffic stop. During the exchange, Pace tells Tensing: 'I’m just trying to go to the ATM to get some money out and y’all just pulled me over for some bulls**t.' When asked to explain himself, Tensing does not answer the pair, who instead ask him to call his supervisor. He also doesn't tell them his name when asked, and will only say the pair are 'being detained'. At one point in the video, Henley tells Tensing: 'Don’t hold me against my own will for nothing!' After his supervisor arrives, Tensing stops speaking. The stop ends after the senior officer says that their vehicle doesn't match any recently-recorded accidents, and lets the pair go. Pace later told local news station WCPO: 'I felt like through the whole encounter, I shouldn't have even been questioned. He should have dealt specifically with the driver'. Tensing has pleaded not guilty to the murder charge and another of voluntary manslaughter for this week's killing. He paid a $100,000 bond and was allowed out of jail on Thursday. Two other officers who came to the scene of the shooting were interviewed but not indicted over the killing. The Hamilton County coroner's office on Friday released preliminary autopsy findings for DuBose, which found that he died from a single gunshot wound to his left temple. No bullet was recovered. Tensing clearly had no understanding of basic Ohio traffic procedure in this 2014 video. It seems Sexton and Pace were lucky to escape with their lives for having a dragging bumper plate and Driving While Black. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-02   12:18:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #121. To: TooConservative (#120) DuBose had marijuana in the car and about $2,600 cash. Explains why he tried to flee. He was going to jail. misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-02   12:26:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #127. To: misterwhite (#121) DuBose had marijuana in the car and about $2,600 cash. Explains why he tried to flee. He was going to jail. That's pretty obvious... he was a shitbird and he was gonna flee... but we can't shoot people for just being fleeing shitbirds. GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-02   12:46:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #138. To: GrandIsland (#127) ... but we can't shoot people for just being fleeing shitbirds. Unless there is reasonable suspicion they will do grave harm to others. Like armed bank robbers fleeing. Or a known violent felon trying to flee a lawful arrest warrant. This victim was a shitbird but he should be in jail, not a grave. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-02   13:32:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #142. To: TooConservative (#138) Unless there is reasonable suspicion they will do grave harm to others. Then they aren't "just" fleeing shitbirds. GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-02   14:43:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #144. To: GrandIsland (#142) Then they aren't "just" fleeing shitbirds. I was just affirming that police sometimes make a stop and are justified to shoot a fleeing violent felon. Most people would say it is their duty to arrest them or shoot them. But a Kampus Kop shooting some skeezy guy over a plate violation? No one wants that. I noticed in one of these accounts that they still haven't found the bullet. Interesting, you'd think they would have located it. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-02   15:44:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #153. To: TooConservative (#144) "I noticed in one of these accounts that they still haven't found the bullet. Interesting, you'd think they would have located it." Maybe it lodged in the marijuana he was carrying. Or in the $2600 in cash he was carrying. misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-02   18:12:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #154. To: misterwhite, Liberator, Deckard (#153) Maybe it lodged in the marijuana he was carrying. Or in the $2600 in cash he was carrying. So then you're fine with a cop that shoots anyone in the head who has pot or some cash in their car? That's where you set the bar for summary execution by a Kampus Kop on the streets of America? Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-02   18:15:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #157. To: TooConservative (#154) "So then you're fine with a cop that shoots anyone in the head who has pot or some cash in their car?" No. I said that's where the bullet might be. misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-02   18:26:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 157.         There are no replies to Comment # 157. End Trace Mode for Comment # 157. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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