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Title: Illegal immigrant ordered freed by feds now suspected of murder in Ohio
Source: Fox News
URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/2 ... -now-suspected-murder-in-ohio/
Published: Jul 29, 2015
Author: Edmund DeMarche
Post Date: 2015-07-29 16:03:56 by nolu chan
Keywords: None
Views: 4187
Comments: 40

Illegal immigrant ordered freed by feds now suspected of murder in Ohio

By Edmund DeMarche
Published July 29, 2015
FoxNews.com

An illegal immigrant suspected of murdering one woman, wounding another and attempting to rape a 14-year-old girl was released earlier this month by Ohio sheriff's deputies after U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents told them not to hold him, law enforcement officials said Tuesday.

Juan Emmanuel Razo, 35, was arrested Monday after a shootout with police following a crime spree police say began with the attempted rape of a girl in a park in Painesville, about 30 miles northeast of Cleveland. He later shot a woman in front of her children and murdered a 60-year-old woman in nearby Concord Township, according to police. While Razo is being held on $10 million bond, authorities are trying to explain why he was allowed to remain in the U.S. illegally after local authorities questioned him just three weeks ago.

“I have somebody who we don’t know who he is, why he is in this country, why he is here illegally and why he allegedly committed a murder," Painesville Municipal Court Judge Michael Cicconetti thundered at Razo's arraignment, noting the suspect has no green card, birth certificate or driver's license.

"I can't set a bond high enough," he continued. "How in the hell do I even know it's him?"

Cicconetti later told Fox News he did not understand how federal authorities could have ordered Razo released on July 7 when local deputies questioned him and contacted Border Protection officials, given that no one could even verify his identity.

"If you are stopped, at that point, whether it be by law enforcement or you make your first court appearance, at that point we have to have some kind of identifier on him," he said.

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#3. To: nolu chan (#0) (Edited)

Illegal immigrant ordered freed by feds now suspected of murder in Ohio

It's time to start indicting members of the Obama immigration team with obstruction of justice at the state level and issuing warrents for their arrest. To hell with this nonsense.

rlk  posted on  2015-07-29   19:12:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: rlk (#3)

" It's time to start indicting members of the Obama immigration team with obstruction of justice at the state level and issuing warrents for their arrest. To hell with this nonsense. "

I agree. But I will bet dollars to doughnuts it will never happen. Locals will not go after the feebs!

Stoner  posted on  2015-07-29   19:56:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Stoner (#4) (Edited)

" It's time to start indicting members of the Obama immigration team with obstruction of justice at the state level and issuing warrents for their arrest. To hell with this nonsense. "

I agree. But I will bet dollars to doughnuts it will never happen. Locals will not go after the feebs!

Nobody will. That why the feds are able to get away with being accomplices to murder. The slaughter of the branch davidians at Waco in a carnival atmosphere is a good example. The governor should have called out the national guard, rounded the feds up and prosecuted them. That's what governors are for. Today governors are figurehead grinning idiots. Not that I am in agreement with the davidians. We are going to see more Wacos in the future because of it.

rlk  posted on  2015-07-29   20:28:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: rlk (#5) (Edited)

" We are going to see more Wacos in the future "

Oh well. The ballot box is broke. I guess we will just have to smile & take it.

Stoner  posted on  2015-07-29   21:04:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Stoner (#6) (Edited)

" We are going to see more Wacos in the future "

Oh well. The ballot box is broke. I guess we will just have to smile & take it.

The ballot box was never constructed very securely. When the assholes in the world find out they can be syncophants for substanceless people acting out entertaining vaudeville routines, a democracy or republic is headed for the dumpster. Obamas, Bushs, Carters, and Kennedys are the result.

rlk  posted on  2015-07-29   21:16:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: rlk, CZ82 (#8)

Our nations ills are so huge, so numerous, so multifaceted, so complex, that there is no political solution.

In the end, the US will go the way of the Roman Empire, into the dustbin of history, out of existence. And largely for the same reason, massive unrestricted immigration. Like Michael Savage is fond of saying: Borders - Language - Culture.

We have not studied the mistakes of history, and we are repeating them.!

We are committing national suicide.

If it was just me, I would not give a shit. But I know that after I am dead & gone, my children will still be here and have to live with it.

I wish it were different, but it is not.

Stoner  posted on  2015-07-29   21:29:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Stoner, rlk, CZ82 (#9)

Our nations ills are so huge, so numerous, so multifaceted, so complex, that there is no political solution.

I reckon secession of a group, or several groups, of states would be a political solution at some quite future date. That would likely elicit a non-political response though.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-07-29   23:36:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: nolu chan, Stoner, rlk, CZ82 (#13)

I reckon secession of a group, or several groups, of states would be a political solution at some quite future date. That would likely elicit a non-political response though.

Haven't we seen the movie before?

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-29   23:40:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: SOSO, Stoner, rlk, CZ82 (#15)

Haven't we seen the movie before?

Yes, but there is a different context or potential context. The Union could fracture upon a financial meltdown, or along the lines of division set up by abortion policies or marriage and other social policies.

One might say we have seen the movie twice, the first time with the Constitution. The old government had 13 states and the new one formed with 11 states. No war occurred, and NC and RI joined the new union 6 months and 1 year after Washington was inaugurated.

I referenced some "quite future date." There is not much likelihood at this time, but it could happen again and is a political solution. If a solid South, or another large block, seceded in the future, if their military installations went with them, a repeat of the Civil War would be unlikely. The firepower would be a strong deterrent.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-07-30   3:38:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: nolu chan, Stoner, rlk, CZ82 (#22)

If a solid South, or another large block, seceded in the future, if their military installations went with them, a repeat of the Civil War would be unlikely. The firepower would be a strong deterrent.

The military is Federal not state. IMO whether there is another civil war or not is totally dependent on how the military reacts. If it stands firm on the side of the Fed there would be no significant state militray to challenge it. In this case we could have a very extended period of guerilla warfare throughout the country. If the military fractures then all hell would break lose and there would vicious fighting in the streets.

In either event, the U.S. economy would be wrecked, it would lose its status as a world power, and, more significantly, it become extremely vulnerable to foreign invasion, if not take over.

The seeds of destruction for almost ever society comes from within.

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-30   10:19:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: SOSO, Stoner, rlk, CZ82 (#26)

The military is Federal not state. IMO whether there is another civil war or not is totally dependent on how the military reacts. If it stands firm on the side of the Fed there would be no significant state militray to challenge it. In this case we could have a very extended period of guerilla warfare throughout the country. If the military fractures then all hell would break lose and there would vicious fighting in the streets.

If the Federal union were to fracture and a large block of states were to secede, it is possible that a military commander of a base, supported by a group of staff, could declare allegiance to the newly formed coalition of states.

For example, a coalition could split on the basis of Christian religious values. One military base could go with Christian values, and oppose the government of socialism, taxpayer supported abortion, and unChristian social mandates, military and civilian. One base with nuclear missiles and bombs is all it takes to greatly affect the balance of power. It causes a stalemate.

If the entire Federal military remained at the service of the Federal government, they would have the power to destroy any state militia. Of course that loyalty would be difficult to maintain if the people being killed are their families back home, and the places attacked includes their home of record.

In the case of economic meltdown with hyperinflation and worthless paper currency, the military simply could not be maintained. The urban centers would quickly get chaotic.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-07-30   14:29:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: nolu chan, Stoner, rlk, CZ82 (#30)

In the case of economic meltdown with hyperinflation and worthless paper currency, the military simply could not be maintained. The urban centers would quickly get chaotic.

Soylent green time.

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-30   15:05:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: SOSO (#31)

Soylent green time.

Really? And that is your first choice of action?     : )

I hate to think you're getting cynical, given your usual habitual cheerfulness and optimism.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-07-31   9:17:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: TooConservative (#33)

Really? And that is your first choice of action? : )

ping #28 for what I think will likely happen. Are you are happy with that outcome?

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-31   10:48:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#36. To: SOSO (#35)

I'm glad you've returned to your usual persona as a happy-go-lucky Pollyanna.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-07-31 10:50:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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