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Title: Illegal immigrant ordered freed by feds now suspected of murder in Ohio
Source: Fox News
URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/2 ... -now-suspected-murder-in-ohio/
Published: Jul 29, 2015
Author: Edmund DeMarche
Post Date: 2015-07-29 16:03:56 by nolu chan
Keywords: None
Views: 4134
Comments: 40

Illegal immigrant ordered freed by feds now suspected of murder in Ohio

By Edmund DeMarche
Published July 29, 2015
FoxNews.com

An illegal immigrant suspected of murdering one woman, wounding another and attempting to rape a 14-year-old girl was released earlier this month by Ohio sheriff's deputies after U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents told them not to hold him, law enforcement officials said Tuesday.

Juan Emmanuel Razo, 35, was arrested Monday after a shootout with police following a crime spree police say began with the attempted rape of a girl in a park in Painesville, about 30 miles northeast of Cleveland. He later shot a woman in front of her children and murdered a 60-year-old woman in nearby Concord Township, according to police. While Razo is being held on $10 million bond, authorities are trying to explain why he was allowed to remain in the U.S. illegally after local authorities questioned him just three weeks ago.

“I have somebody who we don’t know who he is, why he is in this country, why he is here illegally and why he allegedly committed a murder," Painesville Municipal Court Judge Michael Cicconetti thundered at Razo's arraignment, noting the suspect has no green card, birth certificate or driver's license.

"I can't set a bond high enough," he continued. "How in the hell do I even know it's him?"

Cicconetti later told Fox News he did not understand how federal authorities could have ordered Razo released on July 7 when local deputies questioned him and contacted Border Protection officials, given that no one could even verify his identity.

"If you are stopped, at that point, whether it be by law enforcement or you make your first court appearance, at that point we have to have some kind of identifier on him," he said.

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#3. To: nolu chan (#0) (Edited)

Illegal immigrant ordered freed by feds now suspected of murder in Ohio

It's time to start indicting members of the Obama immigration team with obstruction of justice at the state level and issuing warrents for their arrest. To hell with this nonsense.

rlk  posted on  2015-07-29   19:12:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: rlk (#3)

It's time to start indicting members of the Obama immigration team with obstruction of justice at the state level and issuing warrents for their arrest.

Unfortunately, that is not a real legal option.

The people could always tell their congresscritters that they will vote against them if congressional action is not taken, and vote them out of office. That has a very slim chance of going anywhere.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-07-29   23:33:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: nolu chan, rlk (#11)

It's time to start indicting members of the Obama immigration team with obstruction of justice at the state level and issuing warrents for their arrest.

Unfortunately, that is not a real legal option.

Are you saying that there is no legal action that can be taken against Obama and/or officers in his administration for not obeying Federal immigration laws? Or that there are no legal actions the Fed can take against states and/or cities for violating Federal immigration laws?

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-29   23:39:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: SOSO (#14)

Are you saying that there is no legal action that can be taken against Obama and/or officers in his administration for not obeying Federal immigration laws? Or that there are no legal actions the Fed can take against states and/or cities for violating Federal immigration laws?

No.

I believe legal action has been initiated against the Obama administration in Federal court in Texas, prevailing at the District Court and the Circuit Court. This is not in the manner of criminal charges, but to challenge some immigration policies. Litigation proceeds in Federal court against the agency, with the named respondant being the head of the agency, in this case, Jeh Johnson.

I don't see how to indict "members of the Obama immigration team with obstruction of justice at the state level" ... or to issue "warrants for their arrest" at the state level.

The Fed can take actions to "encourage" states or cities to do things. The Fed could tie a lot of government funding to good behavior. That is how the drinking age was uniformly raised to 21. I do not think they can coerce or order the states to do their job for them.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-07-30   3:25:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: nolu chan (#21) (Edited)

I don't see how to indict "members of the Obama immigration team with obstruction of justice at the state level" ... or to issue "warrants for their arrest" at the state level.

It can be done, but not by a bunch of uncomitted grinning pussys.

The basic thrust of the case will be that you can not interfere with a murder investigation or criminal investigation or prosecution in the state of Ohio. It makes no difference if you are a federal agent or a messenger from God. To do so is to incur a jail sentence if you ever re-enter the state. If you enter the state for such purpose, you will be arrested and tried for obstruction of justice.

rlk  posted on  2015-07-30   6:06:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: rlk (#23)

It can be done, but not by a bunch of uncomitted grinning pussys.

No, it can't be done. The members of Obama's immigration team enjoy limited immunity from criminal prosecution. They are clearly doing their duty in accordance with the demands of their bosses.

There simply is no obstruction of justice with any murder investigation or criminal investigation. There is a Federal failure to enforce Federal immigration law.

The State judicial system cannot criminally prosecute a Federal agent or officer for how the State perceives that he does, for fails to do, his Federal job.

Immigration decisions are strictly and solely under the jurisdiction of the Federal government. Ask Joe Arpaio. He cannot enforce the Federal law, and he cannot do squat about how the Fed enforces it or ignores its enforcement responsibilities.

Some States have entered into a bilateral agreement with the Federal government in order to obtain Federal permission to enforce some aspects of Federal immigration law.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-07-30   13:51:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#32. To: nolu chan (#29)

It can be done, but not by a bunch of uncomitted grinning pussys.

They are clearly doing their duty in accordance with the demands of their bosses.

There simply is no obstruction of justice with any murder investigation or criminal investigation.

That's your opinion. You're one of the previously mentioned pussys ready to raise the white flag of surrender at every opportunity.

They are clearly doing their duty in accordance with the demands of their bosses. Then indict their bosses along with them. There is plenty of established legal precedent for doing it.

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