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Title: Boy Scouts of America Officially Ends Ban on Gay Leaders
Source: AP
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Published: Jul 28, 2015
Author: former Defense Secretary Robert Gates?
Post Date: 2015-07-28 06:52:04 by rlk
Keywords: None
Views: 3567
Comments: 17

Boy Scout board approves end to blanket ban on gay adults

The Associated Press DAVID CRARY Jul 27th 2015

Boy Scouts of America Officially Ends Ban on Gay Leaders

NEW YORK (AP) -- The Boy Scouts of America on Monday ended its blanket ban on gay adult leaders while allowing church-sponsored Scout units to maintain the exclusion for religious reasons.

The new policy, aimed at easing a controversy that has embroiled the Boy Scouts for years, takes effect immediately. It was approved by the BSA's National Executive Board on a 45-12 vote during a closed-to-the-media teleconference.

"For far too long this issue has divided and distracted us," said the BSA's president, former Defense Secretary Robert Gates. "Now it's time to unite behind our shared belief in the extraordinary power of Scouting to be a force for good."

Boy Scouts Of America Could Remove Ban On Gay Adults

SAN RAFAEL, CA - JULY 27: Boy Scout merit badge patches are displayed in a store at the Marin Council of the Boy Scouts of America on July 27, 2015 in San Rafael, California. The national executive board of the Boy Scouts of America is poised to vote to end a ban on gay adult leaders.

The stage had been set for Monday's action on May 21, when Gates told the Scouts' national meeting that the long-standing ban on participation by openly gay adults was no longer sustainable. He said the ban was likely to be the target of lawsuits that the Scouts likely would lose.

Two weeks ago, the new policy was approved unanimously by the BSA's 17-member National Executive Committee. It would allow local Scout units to select adult leaders without regard to sexual orientation - a stance that several Scout councils have already adopted in defiance of the official national policy.

In 2013, after heated internal debate, the BSA decided to allow openly gay youth as scouts, but not gay adults as leaders. Several denominations that collectively sponsor close to half of all Scout units - including the Roman Catholic church, the Mormon church and the Southern Baptist Convention - have been apprehensive about ending the ban on gay adults.

The BSA's top leaders have pledged to defend the right of any church-sponsored units to continue excluding gays as adult volunteers. But that assurance has not satisfied some conservative church leaders,'

"It's hard for me to believe, in the long term, that the Boy Scouts will allow religious groups to have the freedom to choose their own leaders," said the Rev. Russell Moore, president of the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission.

"In recent years I have seen a definite cooling on the part of Baptist churches toward the Scouts," Moore said. "This will probably bring that cooling to a freeze."

Under the BSA's new policy:

-Prospective employees of the national organization could no longer be denied a staff position on the basis of sexual orientation.

-Gay leaders who were previously removed from Scouting because of the ban would have the opportunity to reapply for volunteer positions.

-If otherwise qualified, a gay adult would be eligible to serve as a Scoutmaster or unit leader.

Gates, who became the BSA's president in May 2014, said at the time that he personally would have favored ending the ban on gay adults, but he opposed any further debate after the Scouts' policymaking body upheld the ban. In May, however, he said that recent events "have confronted us with urgent challenges I did not foresee and which we cannot ignore."

He cited an announcement by the BSA's New York City chapter in early April that it had hired Pascal Tessier, the nation's first openly gay Eagle Scout, as a summer camp leader. Gates also cited broader gay-rights developments and warned that rigidly maintaining the ban "will be the end of us as a national movement."

The BSA faced potential lawsuits in New York and other states if it continued to enforce its ban, which had been upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2000. Since then, the exclusionary policy has prompted numerous major corporations to suspend charitable donations to the Scouts, and has strained relations with some municipalities that cover gays in their non-discrimination codes.

Stuart Upton, a lawyer for the LGBT-rights group Lambda Legal, questioned whether the BSA's new policy to let church-sponsored units continue to exclude gay adults would be sustainable.

"There will be a period of time where they'll have some legal protection," Upton said. "But that doesn't mean the lawsuits won't keep coming. ... They will become increasingly marginalized from the direction society is going."

Like several other major youth organizations, the Boy Scouts have experienced a membership decline in recent decades. Current membership, according to the BSA, is about 2.4 million boys and about 1 million adults.

After the 2013 decision to admit gay youth, some conservatives split from the BSA to form a new group, Trail Life USA, which has created its own ranks, badges and uniforms. The group claims a membership of more than 25,000 youths and adults.

Poster's comment: More than 60 years ago we had a gay male teacher in Jr. High School. After Gym Class we had 10 minutes to shower and dress. That fag teacher would go into the boys dressing room and watch us naked leaving the shower with a ridiculous grin and his slobbering tongue hanging out one side of his mouth. In class, there was one particular boy he was exceptionally fond of. He would pull the kid onto his lap and feel him up affectionately in front of the class with the same slobbering grin he had in the boys dressing room. I learned what gays were after were after at this point in life. It doesn't make any difference what the say, it's what the intend to do that counts. Gays have no more business with boys than strange men have with with access to naked teenage girls.

This country has gone completely nuts!

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#1. To: rlk (#0)

Don't need to be a prophet to say: The BSA will be the obamit scouts o the oligarchy, in two years or less. The new slogan will be, "No Straight Boy Need Apply."

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-07-28   7:05:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: BobCeleste, CZ82, RLK, Liberator, misterwhite (#1)

Forget the Boy Scouts - the YMCA Indian Guides are in no way
'gay'. I did a Google search on 'gay YMCA Indian Guides'
and received no results about faggotry.

And when I was in the Indian guides we did conduct a panty raid
on Camp Matollionequay (the girls camp for the Indian Princesses)
accross from from Camp Ockanickon - the boys camp for the Indian Guides.
(Nothing 'untoward' occurred - as far as I know - but there were
adults, placed on the wooden foot bridges over the lake afterwards to
prevent such future incursions and mayem. No Guides and Princesses were
subsequently 'co-located' in the two camps at the same time. Or so I heard.)

But my point is that no 'gayness' occurred in the Indian guides
that I ever heard about. So - it is a possible alternative to the Boy Scouts.

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YMCA camps Ockanickon and Matollionequay - Medford, New Jersey.

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#13. To: Chuck_Wagon, BobCeleste, CZ82, RLK, misterwhite (#10)

And when I was in the Indian guides we did conduct a panty raid on Camp Matollionequay (the girls camp for the Indian Princesses)

Hilarious.

Sounds like a Harold Ramis flick.

YMCA camps Ockanickon and Matollionequay - Medford, New Jersey.

That photo, the smile on that kid...is telling us it's a l'il bit o' heaven.

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#17. To: Liberator (#13)

That photo, the smile on that kid...is telling us it's a l'il bit o' heaven.

A week or more away from the house and grumpy parents would be a bit of heaven.

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