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Title: Witnesses say Confederate flag incited SB shooting
Source: WNDU
URL Source: http://www.wndu.com/home/headlines/ ... ted-SB-shooting-318481701.html
Published: Jul 27, 2015
Author: Megan Hickey
Post Date: 2015-07-27 13:08:40 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 3749
Comments: 27

South Bend, Ind. Witnesses at the scene of a shooting on South Bend’s west side Thursday evening said the display of a version of the Confederate flag led to an argument that ended in gunshots.

South Bend police are receiving conflicting stories about the moments leading up to the shooting in the 600 block of Birdsell St.

A shot spotter alert brought police to the scene around 6:30 p.m. Thursday.

Police located the victim, 28-year-old Richard Dillman, who was transported from the scene with gunshot wounds to the cheek and back. Dillman’s injuries are not life threatening.

Beyond those main facts, police say reports vary widely about what led up to the violence.

“A lot of the components of the story are opposing one another,” Capt. Phil Trent of the South Bend Police Dept. said Friday. “Instead of this puzzle having 20 pieces, it has 500.”

Police could not confirm the role that a Confederate flag may have played in the shooting.

But friends and family told NewsCenter16 that Dillman was sporting a version of the Confederate flag off the side of his Ford Explorer at the time of the incident. They said the flag had a U.S. Army emblem and writing and was mounted to the back or side of the car.

Dillman, an army veteran from Arkansas, was visiting a friend who lived on Birdsell Street when the incident took place.

“He was driving over here and he got down the corner a bunch of people started yelling at him about the flag,” Dillman’s friend, Cally Baker said. “I don't know exactly what they we're saying but I can assume Richard was yelling back at them.”

Other witnesses at the scene described an exchange of racial slurs.

“I see this huge Confederate flag and some guys yelling slurs,” said witness J.J. who asked not to use his last name. “I couldn't tell what slurs were going back and forth.”

Accounts from this point vary widely.

Some witnesses said Dillman was armed but others maintain that he was not.

“I've never known him to handle a gun and for him to instigate something is very hard to believe,” Baker said.

Capt. Trent could not confirm whether Dillman was armed at the time of the argument. The vehicle has been secured on police premises for investigational purposes.

Dillman was the only victim. After being shot twice he drove over to Baker’s home and police arrived on the scene.

Right now, police only have Dillman’s side of the story. The three individuals, one of whom is assumed to be the shooter, left the scene before police arrived.

“We want to talk to these individuals from the opposing side because we want to get the story and see aggravating and mitigating circumstances,” Capt. Trent said.

Original reports described the suspect as a thin, black male. Some reports said the three men left the scene in a red vehicle with chrome wheels, possibly a Pontiac Grand Prix.

“The violence really needs to stop and calm down here and across the country, whether it’s racially motivated or not,” one witness said.

The victim’s friend agreed.

“When you hear of African Americans and Caucasians arguing it ends up being a race issue,” Baker said. “And it’s frustrating, especially for someone like me that lives in the area. I don’t want people to feel threatened by me and vice versa.”

Dillman is expected to be released from the hospital on Friday.

Police said the investigation is ongoing and the search continues for the suspect.


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If you don't want to get shot at, then you shouldn't go around displaying provocative symbols.

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#1. To: Willie Green (#0)

If you don't want to get shot at, then you shouldn't go around displaying provocative symbols.

My good friend in NJ wants me to bring him a Confederate flag and tee-shirt when I visit next month. I'll hit a big flea market this weekend and see what I can find for him.

This stuff is getting out of control.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-07-27   13:16:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Willie Green (#0)

Rufus T Firefly  posted on  2015-07-27   13:19:13 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Fred Mertz (#1)

I don't have a confederate flag, but if I did, I would fly it in my front yard!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-07-27   13:30:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Willie Green (#0)

If you don't want to get shot, you shouldn't start shooting at people for displaying a flag.

Don  posted on  2015-07-27   13:39:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Willie Green (#0) (Edited)

He ran into the negro KKK.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-07-27   13:45:30 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Willie Green (#0) (Edited)

If you don't want to get shot at, then you shouldn't go around displaying provocative symbols.

1) When exactly did you become a leader of the Amerikan Nazi Party?

2) DO you understand that We The People have a Constitution AND Bill of Rights, Mein Fuhrer?

3) DO you understand that firing a weapon at those whose symbols of which you disagree is murder, right?

I've suggested this before, but now it's clear -- YOU. NEED. PROFESSIONAL. HELP. You're a criminal and menace to society.

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-27   13:46:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Fred Mertz, Willie Green (#1)

This stuff is getting out of control.

What "stuff"? Like the threats and violence and terrorism advocated by your fascist brethren -- 'Say-Hey-Willie-Wonker'?

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-27   13:49:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Liberator (#7)

What "stuff"?

Getting shot for (possibly) displaying a piece of cloth.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-07-27   13:52:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Willie Green (#0)

Willie. It is your fault. You and Obama's for inciting those dumb people.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-27   13:53:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Willie Green (#0) (Edited)

Other witnesses at the scene described an exchange of racial slurs.

“I see this huge Confederate flag and some guys yelling slurs,” said witness J.J. who asked not to use his last name. “I couldn't tell what slurs were going back and forth.”

Typical Leftist "witness." Hides behind anonymity. Claims his saw a Confederate Flag. Claims to have heard "racial slurs" BUT sez he didn't know what kind of "slurs" were going back and forth.

Typical sh*t-stirring fascist and unprincipled Stalinist liar. Like you, Willie.

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-27   13:54:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: hondo68 (#5)

He ran into the negro KKK.

. . . reminds me of one of the funniest movies of all time. Sad it couldn't be made today.

Rufus T Firefly  posted on  2015-07-27   13:59:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Willie Green (#0) (Edited)

If you don't want to get shot at, then you shouldn't go around displaying provocative symbols.

I think the man who shot him should be lynched. After a quick trial.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-27   13:59:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Fred Mertz, Willie Adolf Green (#8)

Getting shot for (possibly) displaying a piece of cloth.

Your pal is the one advocating the execution and murder of those who are "displaying a piece of cloth" which THEY find "provocative."

So Fred, you'd better behave and be careful about shouting "Say Hey!" As judge and executioner, yours and your loved ones' clothes and car's bumper stickers -- and ANYTHING not approved by Willie's ilk -- might be construed as "provocative" and thus land you and them at the morgue.

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-27   14:01:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Stoner, Willie Adolf Green (#3)

I don't have a confederate flag, but if I did, I would fly it in my front yard!

Willie Adolf Green:

"If you don't want to get shot at, then you shouldn't go around displaying provocative symbols."

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-27   14:03:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Liberator (#14)

" "If you don't want to get shot at, then you shouldn't go around displaying provocative symbols." "

ooh ooh scarey, scarey.

If willie or any body else shoots at me, they better get me with the first shot, they will not get a second.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-07-27   14:17:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Willie Green (#0)

If you don't want to get shot at, then you shouldn't go around displaying provocative symbols.

Have you lost your bleeping mind?

Tell us,Willie,what would you think about black guys waving a Black Power flag in the face of a white man and calling him a "cracka"?

Would it be ok with you if the white guy gunned them down? .

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-27   17:26:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Rufus T Firefly (#2)

EXCELLENT point,Rufus!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-27   17:27:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Liberator (#10)

“I see this huge Confederate flag and some guys yelling slurs,” said witness J.J. who asked not to use his last name. “I couldn't tell what slurs were going back and forth.”

Typical Leftist "witness." Hides behind anonymity. Claims his saw a Confederate Flag. Claims to have heard "racial slurs" BUT sez he didn't know what kind of "slurs" were going back and forth.

MY first thought was that it was a black guy saying this (how many white guys do you know going around being called JJ?),and he was smart enough to remain anonymous to keep from being attacked by his fellow blacks.

The PC version would be "I seed de crackas wid the flag,and day bees call-in the innacent peeceful homies niggas,'n shit".

No Juz-tize,no peas!"

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-27   17:31:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: sneakypete (#16)

Tell us,Willie,what would you think about black guys waving a Black Power flag in the face of a white man and calling him a "cracka"?

If you don't want to get shot at, then you shouldn't go around displaying provocative symbols.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-07-27   18:15:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Willie Green, sneakypete (#19)

If you don't want to get shot at, then you shouldn't go around displaying provocative symbols.

So much for your belief in free speech, freedom or expression, freedom of asosciation, among other things.

So much for your integrity in providing a straight answer to a straight forward question. Your weasel credentials are intact.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-27   18:22:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone, Willie Green, All (#9)

Willie. It is your fault. You and Obama's for inciting those dumb people.

Me thinks Willie is not green at all. Are you Willie?

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-27   18:25:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: SOSO (#21)

Sounds like a relative of yukon, doesn't it??

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-07-27   20:38:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Willie Green (#19) (Edited)

If you don't want to get shot at, then you shouldn't go around displaying provocative symbols.

Willie,you should spend some time visiting America. In America we are all allowed to "display provocative symbols" without fear of attack or prosecution by a thing called "Free Speech". It's a part of the Bill of Rights.

Without that right,shitheads like Sharpton,Jackson,Obomber,Sheila Jackson-Lee,and the Rev-Rund Wright would have been put to death long ago.

Do some thinking about which side of this argument you really want to come down on.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-27   21:16:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: sneakypete (#23)

shitheads like Sharpton,Jackson,Obomber,Sheila Jackson-Lee,and the Rev-Rund Wright would have been put to death long ago.

I would give up my favorite Slinky if that were to happen... :)

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-07-27   21:19:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Liberator (#6)

1) When exactly did you become a leader of the Amerikan Nazi Party?

A long time ago from the sound of his posts, but I'd still bet he thinks Nazis are right wingers..

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-07-27   21:59:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: CZ82, Willie Green (#22)

Sounds like a relative of yukon, doesn't it??

Yukon wasn't a racist, Willie is.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-27   22:55:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: SOSO (#26)

Maybe, maybe not but still has the same M.O. saying whatever it takes to stir up angst and animosity, no matter how stupid it makes them look.

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-07-28   7:13:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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