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Title: Cops Go ‘Undercover’ as Homeless People in Elaborate Scheme to Separate You from Your Money
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Free Thought Project
URL Source: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/co ... aborate-scheme-separate-money/
Published: Jul 26, 2015
Author: Matt Agorist
Post Date: 2015-07-26 12:33:55 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 4628
Comments: 21
San Bernardino, CA — In an apparent attempt to give rise to their bottom line, the San Bernardino Police Department took to the streets dressed as panhandlers this week. Four officers donned their cardboard signs and walked the street looking for vile criminal law breakers who’d dare to be inside a vehicle without their seat belts on. According to the NY Daily News, The four-hour operation led to 50 total vehicle stops, including 33 for cell phone violations, 15 seat belt violations and five cars impounded because the drivers were either unlicensed or driving on suspended licenses, police said. Officers Walton and Alvarez wore sunglasses and plainclothes and held cardboard signs — like those held by a panhandler asking for money — with a twist. “I am NOT homeless,” the officers wrote by hand on the cardboard. “SB police looking for seatbelt/cell phone violations.” The SBPD claimed that their efforts were noble as they risked life and limb to stop rogue villains who’d dare threaten the very fabric of civilization by attempting a text message or a phone call while stopped in traffic; or forgetting to buckle up. “During this detail, our undercover officers walked up to the windows of many vehicles unnoticed by the drivers that were either talking or texting on their cell phones,” police said in a statement on the sting. “Those calls and messages can wait until you arrive at your destination and are not worth risking the life of yourself or those around you while driving.” Curiously, they failed to mention how exactly extorting money from people for victimless crimes such as not wearing their seatbelt contributes to the safety of the community. Probably because it doesn’t. Seat belt violations are merely a scam to allow officers to “lawfully” extort money from the citizenry so they can keep getting their scheduled promotions. In fact, the enforcement of laws for victimless crimes, in reality, makes society less safe. In a recent study, it was revealed that locking people in cages for crimes in which there is no victim, almost guarantees that they will become a real criminal. Sadly, most people attempt to rationalize the idea of police extorting money from them for victimless crimes such as seatbelt violations, window tint, etc. Police are just doing their job, they say, when they pull us over and give us a piece of paper demanding we pay them — or face death. Death? Yes. Death. Most people do not contemplate a “traffic citation” in its entirety. Most people will not realize that the only way the state can compel you to pay them for these supposed “violations” is to threaten you with violence. It is the threat of violence to which the state owes its very existence. People do not pay these citations out of the kindness of their hearts; they pay them because if they didn’t they’d be locked in a cage. Despite people not explicitly saying that is why they pay them, subconsciously it is understood. Pay up, or lose your freedom. Resist losing your freedom, and you will be killed — for not wearing a seat belt. But remember, these public servants who extort the masses through the enforcement of immoral laws designed solely for boosting revenue, do this to keep you safe. They do this to maintain order and keep us free. Sadly, many of these officers actually believe that kidnapping, caging, and killing you over a plant, or a seatbelt, makes society a better place — they even consider it to be heroic. The good news is that more and more cops are seeing the tyrannical nature in which these laws are based and are calling it out. 
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#1. To: Deckard, GrandIsland (#0)
Whats a seat belt violation cost? $300 bucks to the ebil violator? So, multiply by the 50 violations = $15000 bucks potential revenue to the state government. Now, the cops must receive their salary + benefits + OT + training classes + doughnut/koffee breaks; of course, all of this took planning by the police commission and the city government, which took many legal staff to concur that the acions were acceptable to some legal shrine on Mount Washington DC or the State Temple in Sacramento, CA. BTW, San Bernardino is in bankruptcy as a city. They are scrambling for revenue streams even if the actions they create cost many times more than the potential revenue stream.
How about we make a deal? You don't have to wear a seatbelt if the rest of us don't have to pay for your medical care if you get in a accident and are seriously injured. Same thing with talking on a cellphone. Talk away. But you better have good health insurance. But if you want me to pay for your medical care, then I'm going to insist on some laws which will minimize my cost.
Uh - the good folks here were cited for using a cell phone in a stopped vehicle. On the other hand, cops have the luxury of committing manslaughter while texting and not face any consequences. Cop Drives 126 mph While Texting, Kills Teen Girls In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much Silly cops probably assumed they were talking before they stopped and would continue talking after they started. You and I both know they only talked in the 2-3 seconds they were stopped.
Every state is different for minimum and maximum fines for V&T offenses. In NY, minimum is 60.00 and maximum is 200.00 (last I checked)... Plus surcharges. Google your states laws. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Safety checks must be "googled" .. is that correct, constable?
Fine amounts... you asked "Whats a seat belt violation cost?" Stick with the program. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Yep The fact remains that they were cited for texting while stopped. Shall we allow cops to write citations based on "assumptions"? Never mind - we all know your answer. In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much That's still illegal unless they are pulled onto the shoulder of the road and stopped. If they are STOPPED in traffic, at a red light or just stopped in traffic in general, it's still illegal. The law was passed by elected officials, elected by your peers... and it's not a constitutional violation. The fine and surcharge amounts were written into law by your elected peers. The best way to curb using fines and fees to balance budgets is if you can convince your peers TO STOP BREAKING THE LAW. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Unless you're a cop, then you can kill someone as you are texting while driving and get off scot-free. Cop Drives 126 mph While Texting, Kills Teen Girls STOP BREAKING THE LAW. Yeah - sure. Tell it to these law-abiding citizens. 30 Reasons Why Saying “Don’t Want to Get Hurt By Cops? Don’t Break the Law” is an EPIC FAIL In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much So in other words, you agree that the law is not for "safety" but is just another revenue enhancement scheme. In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much The law was developed and implemented in the name of safety... that's how it was sold to YOUR VOTING PEERS. If the fines and fees are used to balance budgets, and your PEERS LIKE THIS IDEAL, who's fault is it? I'm just as pissed as you that state budgets are balanced by criminal and V&T fines and fees... but we are pissed for different reasons. You think I enjoyed arresting the same shitbag 6 times for DWI in a 20 year span so the state could collect $1,000.00 fine plus surcharges six times? Why do you think I retired at 20 and left that libtard state? I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Oh, I see. They were stopped. They weren't "driving" at the time. I guess it would be OK if they were drunk, too, as long as they're stopped.
Gee, you finally get it. They aren't going to kill anyone while they are stopped, unlike the examples of cops who were texting while driving I provided above. Guess what? None of those murderers were cited. But what the hell, this is the kind of selective outrage we all have come to expect from you badge-sniffing cop apologists. Laws only apply to non-cops. right? In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much No, you mean that's how it was rammed down our throats. In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much I've texted at a stop light before. Just last week. It was distracting and I shouldn't have done it. I'll probably do it again though.
Truthfully. Some laws should apply different to police officers. Not a lot of stuff just a few things. For example. Police have to have computers in their cars to do their jobs. That is kind of like texting. An alert or something could come on while they are driving. So if they have an accident because of that then there should perhaps be a little bit different of a standard on a case by case basis. Another example would be if a police officer commited some crime they are charged with enforcing on other people. They should receive a harsher sentence because they were in a position of authority and abused that authroity.
A different standard? OK, got it. Former Illinois State trooper Matt Mitchell was driving at 126 mph on Interstate 64 while emailing/texting his girlfriend on his phone. In his state, he crossed over the median and crashed head-on to another car, killing sisters Kelli and Jessica Uhl and injuring Kelly and Christine Marler, of Fayetteville. Mitchell sustained severe injuries to his leg. Mitchell was suspended with pay for two years on his $68,000 annual salary. After pleading guilty to criminal charges, Mitchell resigned from the state police. His guilty plea landed him 30 months probation. Now Mitchell is filing for worker's compensation, which could result in him receiving tens of thousands of taxpayer dollars, which are non-taxable. Yeah - you're absolutely right. A cop who kills someone as he is texting and driving should not face any criminal charges for manslaughter. Another example : Wood drifted into the bicycle lane while typing a reply to a colleague who wanted to know whether any other officers were required to attend a fire reported at a high school he had just left. He was trying to tell the other officer that no further backup was needed. LA County District Attorney's Office In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much Probably another libertarian out to cause havoc against the government. HELL, he was even on a bicycle; clear proof of his disgraceful & non-patriotic existence.
I wasn't talking about this specific case. I was just making a general point. If an incident happened as described in your post. Then the officer should be charged. I'm not going to go read the whole article. I'm just saying if it happened as described here.
Truthfully. Some laws should apply different to police officers. The laws apply to cops. Cops, and other government employees, have limited liability from prosecution for actions taken as part of their official duties.
#2. To: Deckard (#0)
"Seat belt violations are merely a scam to allow officers to “lawfully” extort money from the citizenry"
#3. To: misterwhite (#2)
Same thing with talking on a cellphone.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#4. To: Deckard (#3)
"Uh - the good folks here were cited for using a cell phone in a stopped vehicle."
#5. To: buckeroo (#1)
#6. To: GrandIsland (#5)
#7. To: buckeroo (#6)
Safety checks must be "googled"
#8. To: misterwhite (#4)
(Edited)
Silly cops probably assumed
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#9. To: Deckard (#8)
The fact remains that they were cited for texting while stopped.
#10. To: GrandIsland (#9)
(Edited)
That's still illegal unless they are pulled onto the shoulder of the road and stopped. If they are STOPPED in traffic, at a red light or just stopped in traffic in general, it's still illegal.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#11. To: GrandIsland (#9)
That's still illegal unless they are pulled onto the shoulder of the road and stopped. If they are STOPPED in traffic, at a red light or just stopped in traffic in general, it's still illegal.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#12. To: Deckard (#11)
So in other words, you agree that the law is not for "safety" but is just another revenue enhancement scheme.
#13. To: Deckard (#8)
"The fact remains that they were cited for texting while stopped."
#14. To: misterwhite, GrandIsland (#13)
Oh, I see. They were stopped. They weren't "driving" at the time.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#15. To: GrandIsland (#12)
The law was developed and implemented in the name of safety... that's how it was sold to YOUR VOTING PEERS. I
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#16. To: Deckard (#14)
They aren't going to kill anyone while they are stopped, unlike the examples of cops who were texting while driving I provided above.
#17. To: Deckard, misterwhite, Grandisland, nolu chan (#14)
Laws only apply to non-cops. right?
#18. To: A K A Stone (#17)
(Edited)
An alert or something could come on while they are driving. So if they have an accident because of that then there should perhaps be a little bit different of a standard on a case by case basis.
The Los Angeles District Attorney's report into the incident says that even though it is illegal to text and drive, Wood was not negligent because police officers are expected to respond quickly to messages from colleagues: 
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#19. To: Deckard (#18)
... the life of a bicycle-riding serf.
#20. To: Deckard (#18)
Former Illinois State trooper Matt Mitchell was driving at 126 mph on Interstate 64 while emailing/texting his girlfriend on his phone. In his state, he crossed over the median and crashed head-on to another car, killing sisters Kelli and Jessica Uhl and injuring Kelly and Christine Marler, of Fayetteville. Mitchell sustained severe injuries to his leg.
#21. To: A K A Stone, Deckard, misterwhite, Grandisland (#17)
Laws only apply to non-cops. right?
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