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Title: Criminal Inquiry Is Sought in Clinton Email Account
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URL Source: http://www.cnbc.com/2015/07/23/crim ... ary-clintons-use-of-email.html
Published: Jul 24, 2015
Author: Michael S. Schmidt and Matt Apuzzo
Post Date: 2015-07-24 13:54:29 by redleghunter
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WASHINGTON — Two inspectors general have asked the Justice Department to open a criminal investigation into whether sensitive government information was mishandled in connection with the personal email account Hillary Rodham Clinton used as secretary of state, senior government officials said Thursday. The request follows an assessment in a June 29 memo by the inspectors general for the State Department and the intelligence agencies that Mrs. Clinton's private account contained "hundreds of potentially classified emails." The memo was written to Patrick F. Kennedy, the under secretary of state for management. It is not clear if any of the information in the emails was marked as classified by the State Department when Mrs. Clinton sent or received them. But since her use of a private email account for official State Department business was revealed in March, she has repeatedly said that she had no classified information on the account. The initial revelation has been an issue in the early stages of her presidential campaign. Poster Comment: 
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#63. To: A K A Stone (#58)
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I agree with you on that,but it IS a matter that concerns states. Marriage was already defined prior to the adoption of the constitution Who defined it,the Big Guy in the Sky? The same guy that according to YOUR instruction manual impregnated another man's wife? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I'm not a rich guy. But a couple of grand doesn't seem like that much to me. It must be like a nickel or penny to Trump. I understand as a business man of his magnitude. You have to play the political game or you will not be able to do business. So he gave them some chump change. It doesn't bother me in the least. Now if Jeb, or Graham, or Cruz gave her money. There would be hell to pay. Because there giving would be for different reasons. That is how I see it. I suspect that is how millions of others see it. Am I a bit hypocritical on this? Maybe but I don't think so. I'm telling you this so you can understand my thinking and perhaps lots of others. Trump is going to be able to get away with stuff others in the field wouldn't. And that is ok with me. Because I and others can see that he isn't a typical politican. He is there to solve serious problems with our debt, border etc. I won't agree with everything he does. But I respect him. He isn't going to get tied up in the kinds of debates you and I have about gay marriage or abortion. He may not be as against those as I am. But that is ok because unlike a Hillary or typical politican that isn't his main focus. He will be a good President. And like Reagan I expect you to come around. You're just so cynical from your experinces with being lied to for so may years. So your cynicism is to be expected. Hope that helps you understand where I and I think many others are coming from.
I have never ONCE said that homosexual marriage was in the Bill of Rights. The Bill of Rights GUARANTEES ALL Americans they have the same rights as all other Americans. Including the right to marry who they wish if that person wants to marry them. If homosexuals don't have that right,neither do heterosexuals. Or even asexuals,who marry for companionship or to other personal reasons. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
It's not,and I am sure that just like everyone else he found a way around election laws and donated more. If there is one thing that Trump loves as much as himself,it is money. He is not going to give a dime to anyone unless he thinks he will benefit from it. Good to see you don't care about him contributing to the Clinton,Kennedy,and NYC manorial campaigns,though. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
The Bill of Rights GUARANTEES ALL Americans they have the same rights as all other Americans. Including the right to marry who they wish Ok let me disect your sentence. You first say you "I have never ONCE said that homosexual marriage was in the Bill of Rights." Then you say"The Bill of Rights GUARANTEES ALL Americans they have the same rights as all other Americans. Including the right to marry who they wish" So it includes it but doesn't include it. You're talking out of both sides of your sperm receptor.
So when we are losing money to China in trade. And to Mexico in trade. Trump will see we are losing money and it is no benefit to us. Sounds awesome. Thank for making me like Trump even more. :) You're telling us he will get rid of NAFTA and have better trade deals with China, Japan etc. Awesome.
I see why you like Bernie. He gives out money. Trump isn't a socialist so why do you think he owes anyone any money? You're part of the give me give me Bernie Fagade.
It didn't but it does now. But given the contortions the court had to go through to find this protected right, it opens the door to marriages between ANY two or more people.
No,I am telling you he will never be elected,and even if he is,he won't have the authority to any of that on his own and nobody in either the DNC or the RNC is going to back him if he tries. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
He already got the first sanctuary cityu legislation passed. He isn't even President yet. He will use the bully pulpit better then anyone has. He will call them stupid and dumb then they will cave when he is President. He is going to win Pete. You can thank me in a few years when you realize you were wrong.
Just so you know, Stone drinks the cup of water for his opinions fron some far off planet called "bullshite"; it isn't all his fault; he was brought up by CIA propaganda. Give the poor man a bit of tyme to fall off his roof again. Sonner or later he will "get it."
You and the other kooks keep bitching about how evil both the RNC and DNC is... and now you're bragging about how they won't play nice with Trump. Seems like anything the RNC & DNC hates, you should endorse. You are more confused that Bruce Jenner. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Talk about yourself about being a socialist living off the fat o' the land, such as yourself; it would be more apropos. I know, it is not all your fault ... you didn't plan your path as a free American; you weren't educated; you were trained like a dawg. You allowed the government to grab your balls to restrain your existence.
Ha ha... let the libtards boil in anger. No more socialist Dems, no more weak filthy RINO's. Now they gotta a real problem... A RICH INDEPENDENT THAT CANT BE BOUGHT.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Is Rand still your first choice? He seems to have disappeared. He is fighting to defund planned parenthood, which is good in my view.
Is Rand still your first choice? He seems to have disappeared. He is fighting to defund planned parenthood, which is good in my view. I like Rand... and if Rand and Trump were equally viable, I'd probably vote Rand because I'm a little more confident in his desire to never shit on the bill of rights, more so than Trump. However, if Trump is the best chance at a non (D) win, I'll gladly vote for him in a New York second. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Sorry, Charlie - Of this, $612,083 are to candidates or parties identifiable either as Republican or Democratic. Of that amount, $320,300 of that have been to the Democratic Party and Democratic candidates; $291,783 to Republican committees and candidates. That’s 52% of his giving to identifiable political giving to Democrats. Perhaps more illuminating: In 2010, he made $102,200 in political donations, $83,400 were to Republicans, including a $50,000 check in October to American Crossroads, a PAC cofounded by Karl Rove. Before 2010, when we could infer he was less serious about running for the Republican nomination, 59% of his political donations were to Democrats (again, setting aside donations not identifiable with either party). Who are his favorites? On the left side of the aisle: $20,350 to Charles Rangel, the Harlem-based Congressman $9,900 to Chuck Schumer $9,400 to Harry Reid $9,000 to various Kennedys, mainly Ted. $5,500 to John Kerry On the right side of the aisle: $13,200 to John McCain (excluding any McCain affiliated PACs) $8,300 Arlen Specter, former Republican Senator who eventually turned Democratic to salvage his career. $9,500 to Mark Foley, the disgraced former Florida politician $8,250 to south Jersey Congressman Frank LoBiondo $6,500 to Sue Kelly, a former congressperson from upstate New York. Of the $131,950 donations to organizations not identified as affiliated with a party by OpenSecrets and non-affiliated candidates: $4,800 went to Charlie Crist, the former Florida governor who ran for Senate as an independent. $1,000 to independent candidate Joe Lieberman (who also received Trump donations when a Democrat) $50,000 went to the Trump NY Delegate Committee in 1999, presumably in connection with the effort to draw a political convention to New York City. See the data yourself at OpenSecrets.org Trump certainly appears to be drawing unusual backers. As I previously reported, a left-leaning PAC that previously backed Obama, John Kerry and Howard Dean is mulling back a candidate Trump. GrandIsland - you have too much tyme on your hands ... why not go out and be that street crossing guard that you once were? You were best at that sort of thing.
That is one thing I like about Rand. I was all in for Rand at one point. Then in my view he went a little squishy on a few things and started sounding more calculating in his answers instead of the unvarnished truth.
Buck. That line of attack is not working. Trump gets a pass on it because he was just doing business. Making everyone like him as he puts it. I'm serious Buck. That line of attack will not work against Trump. It would probably against any other candidate, but not Trump. Maybe it isn' fair but it is accurate.
Ohh, I see ... he was bribing elected officials. Thats pretty cool.
Quit wasting your breath. Your post proves only two things. 1) Trump used both sides to make money. Donate to a campaign and expect that politician to help Trump make millions as he builds them. 2) Trump obviously knows what's wrong with our political choices over the last 100 years... THEY CAN BE BOUGHT because they need money to run for office. So, you should figure out that since Trump isn't asking for shit in donations, he'll be the only candidate that doesn't owe once he wins... AND he will use BOTH sides to get the job done. So, suck it up. If you hate both sides as much as you CLAIM... you should like Trump since both sides hate Trump, especially the DEMS. What's that leave you, Bucky? lol I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Maybe bucky is just afraid Trump will make it hard to defraud the government. If you know what I mean.
The fact that you can't even understand such a simple thing as the different meanings of the words "brag" and "recognize" is why you were a cop. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Agreed. Trump is a *FLIP-FLOPPER* on a scale this nation has never seen before.
Bucky doesn't understand that Trumps ability to use both sides is what's made the man so rich. That's why Bucky isn't a billionaire. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Ahhh,I guess you are also going to give the same pass to his good friends,the Clintons? After all,they were just doing business,too. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I'd disagree with that point. But it does bring up the fact that you don't know what the word "nobody" means.
You also don't know what the word "friends" means. They were acquaintences. But to answer your question. No I wouldn't give the Clintons a pass on anything. Just Teflon Don.
You're not just drinking the Kool-Ade,you're shooting it up,ain't ya? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I like that moniker you just made up for the Donald. Maybe it will stick. Nah.
lol. No I just know as a developer developing multi million dollar buildings. They would be held up if he didn't have some kind of access. Maybe someone who makes minimum wage should have the same access as Trump. But it is just never going to be so. It just isn't Pete. Trump never broke any laws that I'm aware of. And you being a respector of the constitution that you claim to be. I know you believe in innocent until proven guilty. Especially to someone who has never been accused of any wrong doing. You're going all Bernie anti capitalist on us. Like earlier when you were complaining Trump didn't give you anything.
Please quit being such a dick head, mr. web site owner.
I agree that isn't the way things are,but that is the way things are supposed to be,and we should all be working towards that goal. American is supposed to be a Republic,not a Monarchy. Trump never broke any laws that I'm aware of. Of course he has. He has bribed public officials,and who knows what else he has done? We will never know because he hides behind a platoon of lawyers on retainer and public officials on his payroll that can kill any investigation that would cause him harm. Haven't you said yourself that he has had to buy political favor to do business in NYC? I know you believe in innocent until proven guilty. Especially to someone who has never been accused of any wrong doing. Trump has never been accussed of doing any wrongdoing? Have you been living in a freaking cave? You're going all Bernie anti capitalist on us. Do yourself a favor and learn about unfettered capitalism versus the moderated form of capitalism our laws were designed to protect. Unfettered capitalism is nothing more than fascism,which is the evolved,adult form of communism. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
There is no longer any reason,if there ever was,for you and I to discuss this. Frankly,you are too stupid to understand reason because you live off of emotion and superstition. You are a groupie,and Trump is your Boy Band. You are due to take a big emotional hit when he finally drops out and you see what the payoff was. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I think he has staying power. I don't know for how long - I'll guess a year. Then he'll be buried on the political trail and add another billion to his wallet.
No we shouldn't.
No we shouldn't. Ok,so you are pro-Royalty instead of pro-American. That explains your idolization of the carney geek that is Donald Trump. You love him because he is rich,and couldn't care less about how he got rich or how he stays rich. It's all irrelevant because you worship men you consider to be better than yourself. You are a natural serf. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
True,and BY DEFINITION anything she did not classify was not classified information. Remember when that shithead Jim-mah Carter exposed Top Secret Code Word intelligence about the Stealth fighters and bombers ready to come online in order to try to pump up is re-election chances and absolutely nothing happened to him for doing so despite the FACT that anyone below him doing that would have received life in prison? It wasn't classified if the president says it wasn't classified. Same thing is going to happen here. She didn't classify it so it wasn't classified. Can't we just MOVE ON? Anything not yet officially classified is not officially classified. That does not change the responsibility to classify national security information, or the culpability for failing one's responsibility to properly classify it. For any qualifying national security information which came across her non-secure email system: HILLARY CLINTON was RESPONSIBLE to properly classify the document, and every paragraph of the document, upon her initial review of the document. A document is not unclassified because Hillary Clinton did not classify it. See the IG statement below. If information within falls under derived classification, it is classified whether it is marked or not. HILLARY CLINTON was RESPONSIBLE to NOT keep the national security information on her non-secure server. HILLARY CLINTON was RESPONSIBLE to file a compromise report for each such document. Information does not automatically become unclassified or delcassified because it has been compromised, even if published in newspapers or hacked off a non-secure server. HILLARY CLINTON was RESPONSIBLE to take immediate measures to prevent further transmission of national security information to her non-secure email system. Instead, HILLARY CLINTON maintained an unlawful non-secure back channel intelligence system, compromising all national security information she permitted and enabled to be handled on her non-secure system. The President did not declare any of the national security information held on the non-secure system of HILLARY CLINTON to be unclassified or declassified. Jimmy Carter or other presidents may declassify and release whatever they choose. What the president may do today (but has not done) is not relevant to a determination of what HILLARY CLINTON wrongfully did, or failed to do. National Security Information, wrongfully present on HILLARY CLINTON's email server, was not properly classified, AS REQUIRED. She could not ignore information that qualified for SECRET or TOP SECRET classification and treat it as unclassified until one of her subordinates told her different. www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2010-01-05/pdf/E9-31418.pdf Title 3—The President, Executive Order 13526 of December 29, 2009 Classified National Security Information Federal Register, Vol. 75, No. 2, Tuesday, January 5, 2010, pp. 707-708 Sec. 1.3. Classification Authority. [snip] Statement from the Inspectors General of the Intelligence Community and the Department of State Regarding the Review of Former Secretary Clinton's Emails Yesterday the Office ofthe Inspector General ofthe Intelligence Community (IC IG} sent a congressional notification to intelligence oversight committees updating them of the IC IG support to the State Department IG (attached). The IC IG found four emails containing classified IC-derived information in a limited sample of 40 emails of the 30,000 emails provided by former Secretary Clinton. The four emails, which have not been released through the State FOIA process, did not contain classification markings and/or dissemination controls. These emails were not retroactively classified by the State Department; rather these emails contained classified information when they were generated and, according to IC classification officials, that information remains classified today. This classified information should never have been transmitted via an unclassified personal system. IC IG made a referral detailing the potential compromise of classified information to security officials within the Executive Branch. The main purpose of the referral was to notify security officials that classified information may exist on at least one private server and thumb drive that are not in the government's possession. An important distinction is that the IC IG did not make a criminal referral – it was a security referral made for counterintelligence purposes. The IC IG is statutorily required to refer potential compromises of national security information to the appropriate IC security officials. /s/ I. Charles McCullough, III Inspector General, Department of State Hillary stored INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY (IC) DERIVED INFORMATION on her non-secure server and she transmitted the same. This material held derived classification, as opposed to requiring original classification. Orignal classification of the information already existed. As the IG said, the information was classified when generated and remains classified today. The IG filed the potential compromise report as required by law. As the IG noted, "This classified information should never have been transmitted via an unclassified personal system."
For any qualifying national security information which came across her non-secure email system: HILLARY CLINTON was RESPONSIBLE Technically you are correct,and that would make a solid case in a court of law. The problem is this is Bubbette! we are speaking of,and she is never going to be charged with anything in a court of law. She is a protected species,and only has to worry about the "court of public opinion" and there is nobody better than the Clinton's when it comes to shading the facts and confusing issues. Does the sentence "That all depends on what the meaning of the word "is",is." bring back any memories. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
She is a protected species,and only has to worry about the "court of public opinion" and there is nobody better than the Clinton's when it comes to shading the facts and confusing issues. Does the sentence "That all depends on what the meaning of the word "is",is." bring back any memories. Hillary is not in a court of law but is in the court of public opinion and in a very bright spotlight. Escaping criminal prosecution is not the same as getting elected president. Hillary trying to sound like Bill gives me an impression of Tricky Dick saying "I am not a crook."
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestIt isn't. Marriage isn't a role for the federal government.
#64. To: sneakypete (#61)
Yeah, a couple of grand here,a couple of grand there,it's almost like it never happened,right?
#65. To: A K A Stone (#60)
Then why do you say that you aren't a "fag lover" and say that you support the bill or rights and I don't? Implying that fag pretend marriage is in the bill of rigths.
#66. To: A K A Stone (#64)
'm not a rich guy. But a couple of grand doesn't seem like that much to me.
#67. To: sneakypete (#65)
I have never ONCE said that homosexual marriage was in the Bill of Rights.
#68. To: sneakypete (#66)
If there is one thing that Trump loves as much as himself,it is money. He is not going to give a dime to anyone unless he thinks he will benefit from it.
#69. To: sneakypete (#66)
He is not going to give a dime to anyone unless he thinks he will benefit from it.
#70. To: A K A Stone (#67)
"So it includes it but doesn't include it."
#71. To: A K A Stone (#68)
You're telling us he will get rid of NAFTA and have better trade deals with China, Japan etc.
#72. To: sneakypete (#71)
No,I am telling you he will never be elected,and even if he is,he won't have the authority
#73. To: sneakypete, A K A Stone (#71)
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#74. To: sneakypete (#71)
he will never be elected,and even if he is,he won't have the authority to any of that on his own and nobody in either the DNC or the RNC is going to back him if he tries.
#75. To: GrandIsland (#74)
#76. To: GrandIsland (#74)
#77. To: A K A Stone (#76)
#78. To: GrandIsland (#77)
#79. To: A K A Stone (#78)
#80. To: GrandIsland (#77)
No more socialist Dems, no more weak filthy RINO's. Now they gotta a real problem... A RICH INDEPENDENT THAT CANT BE BOUGHT.
According to electoral cycle donations via OpenSecrets.org which I examined this morning, Trump has donated a net $744,033 to political candidates and committees since 1989 (the extent of the online database).
#81. To: GrandIsland (#79)
more confident in his desire to never shit on the bill of rights
#82. To: buckeroo (#80)
#83. To: A K A Stone (#82)
Trump gets a pass on it because he was just doing business.
#84. To: buckeroo (#80)
#85. To: GrandIsland, buckeroo (#84)
#86. To: GrandIsland (#74)
You and the other kooks keep bitching about how evil both the RNC and DNC is... and now you're bragging about how they won't play nice with Trump.
#87. To: GrandIsland (#84)
... AND he will use BOTH sides to get the job done.
#88. To: A K A Stone (#82)
Trump gets a pass on it because he was just doing business.
#89. To: A K A Stone (#82)
Trump gets a pass on it because he was just doing business.
#90. To: sneakypete (#86)
The fact that you can't even understand such a simple thing as the different meanings of the words "brag" and "recognize" is why you were a cop.
#91. To: sneakypete (#89)
Ahhh,I guess you are also going to give the same pass to his good friends,the Clintons?
#92. To: A K A Stone (#91)
They were acquaintences. But to answer your question. No I wouldn't give the Clintons a pass on anything. Just Teflon Don.
#93. To: A K A Stone (#91)
Just Teflon Don.
#94. To: sneakypete (#92)
You're not just drinking the Kool-Ade,you're shooting it up,ain't ya?
#95. To: A K A Stone (#67)
You're talking out of both sides of your sperm receptor.
#96. To: A K A Stone (#94)
Maybe someone who makes minimum wage should have the same access as Trump. But it is just never going to be so. It just isn't Pete.
#97. To: A K A Stone (#67)
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So it includes it but doesn't include it. You're talking out of both sides of your sperm receptor.
#98. To: sneakypete (#97)
You are due to take a big emotional hit when he [Trump] finally drops out and you see what the payoff was.
#99. To: sneakypete (#96)
I agree that isn't the way things are,but that is the way things are supposed to be,and we should all be working towards that goal.
#100. To: A K A Stone (#99)
I agree that isn't the way things are,but that is the way things are supposed to be,and we should all be working towards that goal.
#101. To: sneakypete (#20)
The Agency head is responsible for the protection of classified information within her agency.
(d) All original classification authorities must receive training in proper classification (including the avoidance of over-classification) and declassification as provided in this order and its implementing directives at least once a calendar year. Such training must include instruction on the proper safeguarding of classified information and on the sanctions in section 5.5 of this order that may be brought against an individual who fails to classify information properly or protect classified information from unauthorized disclosure.
July 24, 2015
Inspector General of the Intelligence Community
Steve Linick
#102. To: nolu chan (#101)
Anything not yet officially classified is not officially classified. That does not change the responsibility to classify national security information, or the culpability for failing one's responsibility to properly classify it.
#103. To: sneakypete (#102)
The problem is this is Bubbette! we are speaking of,and she is never going to be charged with anything in a court of law.
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