Title: 'Six Californias' plan may make 2016 ballot (leaving Cali without going anywhere) Source:
USA TODAY URL Source:http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/ ... draper/12661161/?csp=fbfanpage Published:Jul 21, 2015 Author:Laura Mandaro Post Date:2015-07-21 20:42:17 by Hondo68 Keywords:Movin on up, finally got a, piece of the pie Views:3214 Comments:22
Six Californias plan
A proposal backed by venture capitalist Tim Draper to divide California into six states has received enough signatures to make the November 2016 ballot, according to the non-profit Six Californias. Here's how the plan would divide the state:
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Jefferson
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North California
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Central California
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Silicon Valley
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West California
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South California
Sources: USA TODAY research
Kevin A. Kepple, Anne R.Carey, Denny Gainer and Paul Overberg, USA TODAY
Corrections & Clarifications: An earlier version of this report misspelled the name of venture capital firm Draper Fisher Jurvetson.
SAN FRANCISCO A plan backed by venture capitalist Tim Draper to split California into six states has gained enough signatures to make the November 2016 ballot, the plan's backers say.
A Twitter account belonging to the nonprofit Six Californias tweeted on Monday that "#SixCalifornias will be submitting signatures in Sacramento tomorrow for placement on the November 2016 ballot. Stay tuned for coverage!"
On Tuesday, Draper told USA Today the campaign had garnered 1.3 million signatures, well over the approximately 808,000 needed.
Draper is a founding member of the venture capital firm Draper Fisher Jurvetson, known for its investments in successful growth ventures such as Hotmail, Baidu, Tesla Motors and Skype. Recently, Draper won the federal government's auction of bitcoins once owned by online drugs portal Silk Road. He's championed the political break-up of the state for over a year, but it's taken until recently for the plan to gain some momentum.
A movement to split California into six states gained enough traction to land on the 2016 ballot. Other states have also tried, unsuccessfully, to split up. Find out which ones on USA NOW.
Draper and other supporters of the break-up argue that the state's 38 million people would be better served by smaller governments and elected officials who would be able to work more closely with their constituents.
"If we have six Californias and we in effect dissolve the one we've got, those six allow us a new start," Draper says in a video posted on the Six Californias website. Each state, which would have its own capital and legislature, would be able to write its own constitution.
The six carved out states would look like this:
Jefferson: The northern part of the state, including Humboldt and Mendocino counties.
North California: The wine country counties of Sonoma and Napa, as well as the Sierra Nevada region.
Silicon Valley: Including San Francisco, San Jose and most of what's considered the San Francisco Bay Area.
Central California: The vast central valley farm region, including Tulare and Fresno counties.
West California: Including Santa Barbara and Los Angeles.
South California: Including what's called the Inland Empire of San Bernadino and Riverside, plus San Diego.
The plan has met with resistance from California's Democratic majority, and a Field Poll found 59% of Californians surveyed were against the plan, according to the San Francisco Chronicle.
Democratic strategist Steven Maviglio didn't mince words criticizing the plan. He tweeted Monday:
Here it comes: @timdraper#6Californias colossal waste of time, energy, & money that will hurt the CA brand and investment Steven Maviglio (@stevenmaviglio) July 14, 2014
But interest in the plan has been strong enough to send Draper and his campaigners to Sacramento for now, the one and only capital of California.
#SixCalifornias will be submitting signatures in Sacramento tomorrow for placement on the November 2016 ballot. Stay tuned for coverage! Six Californias (@SixCalifornias) July 14, 2014
A proposal backed by nonprofit organization Six Californias to divide California into six states has received enough signatures to make the November 2016 ballot, but others say it's not a practical plan.
Poster Comment:
Goodbye to all of the fruits and nuts, I'm outta here, Seceded!
Breaking up California would free certain areas from domination from the nuttiness and the dingbat governers such as Brown that more degenerate areas inflict upon the remainder of the state.
Breaking up California would free certain areas from domination from the nuttiness
And after 25 years of kookifornian influence, instead of one libtard state, we'll have six more.
You wanna escape the madness of libtard, over taxed and over regulated shithole kookifornia?.... MOVE TO ANOTHER STATE.
You can't fix libtarism by staying and funding it, even if you break it up in 7 parts. You'll only beat libtardism by BANKRUPTING IT... and you will do that if every tax paying non libtard moves from kookifornia and leaves behind just illegals, welfare and criminals. The most left of the workers won't be able to sustain such an economy... but they are right now, with heavy deficits, with your help. BY STAYING.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
You can't fix libtarism by staying and funding it, even if you break it up in 7 parts. You'll only beat libtardism by BANKRUPTING IT... and you will do that if every tax paying non libtard moves from kookifornia and leaves behind just illegals, welfare and criminals. The most left of the workers won't be able to sustain such an economy... but they are right now, with heavy deficits, with your help. BY STAYING.
The problem with the idea of letting California implode financially is this: The Ruling Class will not let it happen.
Like GM, California is "too big to fail."
And the US still has a large pool of taxpayers who's pockets can be picked to bail California out.
Like, Greece, if kookifornia gets bailed out, then so be it. It will need re-bailing quicker each time a bandaid is applied instead of fixing the gushing wound. It still doesn't make the idea of all of Americas fed up working class all relocating to 3 or 4 states... and from their can break away from the Libtard madness, in a bigger, more intelligent move then breaking up a libtard shithole in 6 parts.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Ever since he came into office, Gov. Jerry Brown has promised to address what he has long called the states wall of debt built up over years. And now that the nations most populous state is looking at a multibillion-dollar surplus, Mr. Brown, in a $155 billion state budget proposal submitted on Thursday, is pledging to make good on that promise.
Ever since he came into office, Gov. Jerry Brown has promised to address what he has long called the states wall of debt built up over years. And now that the nations most populous state is looking at a multibillion-dollar surplus, Mr. Brown, in a $155 billion state budget proposal submitted on Thursday, is pledging to make good on that promise.
Your bullshit is the same skewed playing with numbers the Feds to with unemployment stats. Wake the fuck up and smell your libtard coffee.
Kookifornia is actually 443 BILLION in debt... aside from all the budget gimmicks that you libtards actually fall for.
"According to Governor Browns 2014-15 proposed budget, Californias Wall of Debt amounts to $26.2 billion and largely includes short-term debts incurred since 2007-08. These debts include postponed payments to schools, community colleges, and Californias Medicaid program (Medi-Cal). Among these debts are the deferral of state payroll costs from June to July, an accounting gimmick that appears to reduce the years overall payroll costs by delaying and pushing those payments into the next fiscal year. Another opaque budget approach included temporarily shifting money from dedicated funding pools called Special Funds to pay for other areas of the budget. Ultimately, such accounting gimmicks obscure a governments true financial condition and undermine fiscal transparency by limiting the publics ability to fairly and accurately evaluate the states budgetary and fiscal health. For example, the state has repeatedly resorted to borrowing from internal pools of money to balance the budget. On paper and in reality, this type of gimmick misrepresents actual costs to citizens, the media, departments, and policymakers."
Slap yourself. That shithole overspent over the last 75 years.... and they'll never reach ZERO until it implodes.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
(Bloomberg) -- California Governor Jerry Brown is faced with a dilemma other leaders would love to have as he releases his budget today: what to do with record tax revenue expected to leave the most populous U.S. state with a growing surplus.
The states nonpartisan Legislative Analysts Office projects California will take in at least $2 billion more in revenue this fiscal year than what is estimated in the budget. That has lawmakers from Browns Democratic party calling on the 76-year-old governor to spend more on safety-net programs and other priorities. Brown urges caution, pointing out that most of the additional revenue must by law go to public schools.
The state budget, after a decade of fiscal turbulence, is finally balanced -- more precariously than I would like - but balanced, Brown told lawmakers earlier this week in his annual state of the state speech.
And after 25 years of kookifornian influence, instead of one libtard state, we'll have six more.
California is so big I believe it has a very diverse political sentiments that vary with geography, so some of those 10 additional senators, perhaps most of them, would likely have conservative sentiments.
.... for whatever that is worth. Supposed "conservatives" have been behind the wars started under Bush and continued under Obama, in the name of "might makes right" America.
They still owe over 400 BILLION... because of past out of control libtard spending.
Kookifornia is in the RED, whether you want to admit it or not.
Like when they got rid of the Republicans in the White House and balanced the budget under Clinton it will take time to undo the damage Arnold and his party did.
Unsustainable California: The Top 10 Issues Facing the Golden State Wall of Debt
By Autumn Carter | June 11, 2014
In Brief
Californias actual Wall of Debt is an estimated $443 billion, much larger than the $26.2 billion frequently cited by officials and the media. Introduction
Over the last decade, California amassed extensive debt that it will have to repay over the coming decades. More recently, the state government and media began referring to the states billions of dollars of mounting debts as a Wall of Debt. Generally, state officials and the media depict that wall as $26.2 billion, far smaller than it actually is. Californias actual wall of debt is $443 billion.
The states complete and growing Wall of Debt reflects unsustainable budgeting practices. As its repayment costs rise and shift to later generations, the Wall will redirect spending away from critical public services. Significantly reducing its size is crucial to securing the states fiscal health and eliminating year-to-year budgeting gimmicks that mask deeper underlying challenges.
Furthermore, aggressively excluding long-term liabilities (such as those for public employee pensions) from debt discussions is dangerous to citizens and policymakers, alike. While the state does acknowledge its long-term liabilities, it generally fails to treat them as debt. Governor Jerry Brown argues that it is critical that the state develop a plan to address these liabilities which will crowd out the states ability to take on new ongoing commitments. However, refusing to include these critical liabilities in the official Wall of Debt can greatly diminish its significance in the mind of many voters and policymakers.
Reassessing the Wall of Debt
According to Governor Browns 2014-15 proposed budget, Californias Wall of Debt amounts to $26.2 billion and largely includes short-term debts incurred since 2007-08. These debts include postponed payments to schools, community colleges, and Californias Medicaid program (Medi-Cal).
Among these debts are the deferral of state payroll costs from June to July, an accounting gimmick that appears to reduce the years overall payroll costs by delaying and pushing those payments into the next fiscal year. Another opaque budget approach included temporarily shifting money from dedicated funding pools called Special Funds to pay for other areas of the budget.
According to Governor Browns 2014-15 proposed budget, Californias Wall of Debt amounts to $26.2 billion and largely includes short-term debts incurred since 2007-08. These debts include postponed payments to schools, community colleges, and Californias Medicaid program (Medi-Cal).
Among these debts are the deferral of state payroll costs from June to July, an accounting gimmick that appears to reduce the years overall payroll costs by delaying and pushing those payments into the next fiscal year. Another opaque budget approach included temporarily shifting money from dedicated funding pools called Special Funds to pay for other areas of the budget.
I already posted this up in post 12... but Pericles is too libtarded to understand debt... and when faced with the cold hard fact, Pericles will blame the whole problem on one past republican... like O'bunghole does with Bush.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
The Federal debt went down in 1957 under Eisenhower. That is the last time it went down, the Clinton "surpluses" notwithstanding. Both parties have spent more than they took in for nearly 60 consecutive years.