Take it from an atheist: Even an atheist could have faked a better answer than this. How is it that this guy, with all his billions, didnt think to hire anyone to teach him to lie convincingly about faith when addressing an audience of Christian conservatives, the key to winning the Iowa caucuses? He should have called the White House. They could have hooked him up with whoever coached Obama on his fake opposition to gay marriage in 2008.
Byron York and the NYT are right that this answer will end up damaging Trump more than his shot at McCains war service will.
A senior Iowa Republican who was in the room, sitting with a group of grassroots activists as Trump spoke, was dumbfounded by the candidates views of religion. While there were audible groans in the crowd when Trump questioned whether McCain was a war hero, the senior Republican said via email, it was Trumps inability to articulate any coherent relationship with God or demonstrate the role faith plays in his life that really sucked the oxygen out of the room.
The senior Republican continued: Milling around talking to activists in the hallways/lobby after Trumps speech, THAT is what those Iowa conservatives were discussing, not the McCain comment.
Trumps performance was really a one-two punch, the Republican said. His McCain comment gave free license to other candidates and the national political class to attack. His failure to demonstrate even the most rudimentary understanding of leading a faith-filled life will be his ultimate undoing with Iowas Christian conservative activists. Especially in a field with such credible alternatives.
Watch the clip. The bit about him drinking his little wine and having his little cracker at church is not Huckabean, shall we say, although I think its the second half of the vid thats more revealing. (The very end includes his bit about McCain, which the videos editor tacked on for whatever reason.) Luntz tosses him the softest of softballs what is your relationship with God? and Trump cant help answering in terms of his personal success, presumably because thats his yardstick for everything in life. Gods blessed him with an intellect capable of generating some of the great deals in business history; thats evidence that their relationships pretty good, no? Luntzs question very obviously cries out for the opposite answer, that riches and personal success mean nothing without grace and deep communion with the Almighty. He does note that he prays, but like I say, watch the clip. The mystery here is whether Trump simply misjudged his audience (in Iowa, at a forum devoted to family?) or hes convinced himself that being his honest, unfiltered self is the key to ultimate victory. This will test that theory better than the McCain thing will.
A rival campaign strategist told York he doesnt expect Trump to lose support for this so much as he thinks itll lower his ceiling in the state. If youre an evangelical tea partier trying to decide between Trump and, say, Scott Walker or Ted Cruz, thisll tip the scale towards the latter.
Poster Comment:
Elsewhere, Ace observes: "He eventually grabs at an answer -- that "drinking the little wine" and "eating the little cracker" constitute, maybe, an asking of forgiveness from God. He doesn't sound very sure of that (I don't know either way myself), but has already, by then repeatedly said he doesn't even think to ask God for forgiveness. So if the "drinking of the little" wine is such a request, it is only inadvertent, accidental, and symbolic."
Perhaps with Trump on the campaign trail he will actually meet, sit and talk with some Christians and not the variant from his country club. One never knows...
That's true. Butterflies might fly out of my ass. One never knows...
And to think all of this time I thought it was supposed to be red, white and blue jelly beans!
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Scott Walker can't even convince his family that gay marriage is wrong, so how can he convince America.
So your wife believes EVERYTHING you tell her??
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Have any of you a proper rebuttal? I have a few ideas ;-)
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
What I do understand is how afraid the Marxists in this nation are of Trump and how his enemies are desperately trying to discredit him. That is a favorite trick of the left to attack their enemies.
What I do understand is how afraid the Marxists in this nation are of Trump and how his enemies are desperately trying to discredit him. That is a favorite trick of the left to attack their enemies.
Just the Left?
Seriously, do you really think anybody in the power structure of the country is afraid of Trump? He will not get the REP nomination. He will very likely run 3rd party.
In the hell freezes over scenario of him winning the national election just what kind of support in Congress do you think he would have? Whatever it would be would be Drat and not enough to make him veto proof.
The most likely scenario is that he gives the election to Hillary and we have another 8 years of Obama. Is that what you what for the country?
The most likely scenario is that he gives the election to Hillary and we have another 8 years of Obama. Is that what you what for the country?
Here is the mosty likely scenario.
Trump is the only one that has a chance of beating Bush.
People like you support 3 percent candidates and we get Jeb vs Hillary. Trump doesn't run third party. Hillary wins because her base loves her and half the Republicans or 80 percent don't like Bush.
So Bush can't win.
If Trump is the only one mathematically able to have a chance against Bush. Then he is the man because he is far better then the other two. Also he will expose all of them just for fun. So expect people to go to prison
So the choice will be in people like your hands. Do you go with Trump or allow Bush to lose to Hillary.
If Trump runs third party Hillary still probably wins.
So if someone else doesn't surge to take on Bush. Then it is your duty to vote for Trump unless you want Hillary.
Nope. I voted for Goode trying to make a meaningful change.
Chya....a lot of goode that did you and the country. Keep up the goode work.
Ho ho! If you read Goode's synopsis of his platform, he had the bases covered. Romney's performance during the Obama Romney debates approximated that of a pampered jr. high school student. He expected family name recognition and a handsome face to carry the day while he stammered for answers he had never considered. He was far out of his depth. So are you.
My wife doesn't give me a large enough allowance for betting. I can't even get an occasional lottery ticket. That has nothing to do with the Marxists in the room.
#83. To: SOSO, A K A Stone, Jeb Trump 2020, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#70)(Edited)
So you would vote for Hillary over Bush?
You're both working for the Ready for Hillary campaign, and only arguing about which loser Republican is best to get her elected.
By voting for Willie-Mitt you've inspired a whole new class of lowlife Republican candidates.... Jeb! Bush, Lindsey Graham, Pataki, Chris Crisco, Trump the Clown, Rafael the Canuck, Marco Rubio, etc. You asked for crap, you got it!
If the GOP wanted to win they'd run at least one decent candidate. They're backing Hillary, so that Boehner can whine and cry about Dems for another four years, while giving them everything that they ask for.
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party "We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
You're just mad because they don't support abortion and the candidates that you support do. You're just a hack from planned parenthood that likes hacking little kids up.
If the GOP wanted to win they'd run at least one decent candidate.
You're just a spokesman for planned parenthood. Last time you recommended Gary Johnson. Pro abort weirdo. You just want candidates that hack up little kids. You're sicko. All your candidates are the same hack and blood.
You're both working for the Ready for Hillary campaign, and only arguing about which loser Republican is best to get her elected.
You are probably quite correct about the old guard Reps that are running. The newer faces are a different story. Trump is not in that latter category. He has been and still a real bad smelly fart.
BTW, I deregistered as Republicn a few years ago. They really are the Party of Stupid. And I have come around to the notion that there is not too much difference bewteen the establishment Ds & Rs save for one major difference - the Ds hold ranks and don't eat their own.
I know but I sometimes enjoy visiting you bottom feeders.
You can do or say anything you want from complacent safety 599 oe 1,000 miles away. For my part I come here relegated to dealing with witty people with mental deficieny or psychiatric problems in the vain hope of improving them in attempts to save the country. It's getting to be a task I am reviewing and thinking of giving up as tiring and useless.
For my part I come here relegated to dealing with witty people with mental deficieny or psychiatric problems in the vain hope of improving them in attempts to save the country. It's getting to be a task I am reviewing and thinking of giving up as tiring and useless.
Perhaps you should wait until you are invited to practice your voodoo on someone. Just a suggestion.