Take it from an atheist: Even an atheist could have faked a better answer than this. How is it that this guy, with all his billions, didn’t think to hire anyone to teach him to lie convincingly about faith when addressing an audience of Christian conservatives, the key to winning the Iowa caucuses? He should have called the White House. They could have hooked him up with whoever coached Obama on his fake opposition to gay marriage in 2008.
Byron York and the NYT are right that this answer will end up damaging Trump more than his shot at McCain’s war service will.
A senior Iowa Republican who was in the room, sitting with a group of grassroots activists as Trump spoke, was dumbfounded by the candidate’s views of religion. “While there were audible groans in the crowd when Trump questioned whether McCain was a war hero,” the senior Republican said via email, “it was Trump’s inability to articulate any coherent relationship with God or demonstrate the role faith plays in his life that really sucked the oxygen out of the room.”
The senior Republican continued: “Milling around talking to activists in the hallways/lobby after Trump’s speech, THAT is what those Iowa conservatives were discussing, not the McCain comment.”…
“Trump’s performance was really a one-two punch,” the Republican said. “His McCain comment gave free license to other candidates and the national political class to attack. His failure to demonstrate even the most rudimentary understanding of leading a faith-filled life will be his ultimate undoing with Iowa’s Christian conservative activists. Especially in a field with such credible alternatives.”
Watch the clip. The bit about him drinking his “little wine” and having his “little cracker” at church is … not Huckabean, shall we say, although I think it’s the second half of the vid that’s more revealing. (The very end includes his bit about McCain, which the video’s editor tacked on for whatever reason.) Luntz tosses him the softest of softballs — “what is your relationship with God?” — and Trump can’t help answering in terms of his personal success, presumably because that’s his yardstick for everything in life. God’s blessed him with an intellect capable of generating some of the great deals in business history; that’s evidence that their relationship’s pretty good, no? Luntz’s question very obviously cries out for the opposite answer, that riches and personal success mean nothing without grace and deep communion with the Almighty. He does note that he prays, but like I say, watch the clip. The mystery here is whether Trump simply misjudged his audience (in Iowa, at a forum devoted to family?) or he’s convinced himself that being his honest, unfiltered self is the key to ultimate victory. This will test that theory better than the McCain thing will.
A rival campaign strategist told York he doesn’t expect Trump to lose support for this so much as he thinks it’ll lower his ceiling in the state. If you’re an evangelical tea partier trying to decide between Trump and, say, Scott Walker or Ted Cruz, this’ll tip the scale towards the latter.
Poster Comment:
Elsewhere, Ace observes: "He eventually grabs at an answer -- that "drinking the little wine" and "eating the little cracker" constitute, maybe, an asking of forgiveness from God. He doesn't sound very sure of that (I don't know either way myself), but has already, by then repeatedly said he doesn't even think to ask God for forgiveness. So if the "drinking of the little" wine is such a request, it is only inadvertent, accidental, and symbolic."
#2. To: TooConservative, liberator, tomder55, CZ82 (#0)(Edited)
For each lucid response from Trump, a host of head scratching responses follow.
The only difference between Trump and Uncle Joe Biden is the occasional lucid remark concerning illegal immigrants:)
Verbal projectile diarrhea is unsustainable in Presidential politics. The good folks like to hear things as they are warts and all but now and then appreciate the use of some Immodium AD:) Frankly Trump will flame out before October. His main contribution will be to expose many of the clowns running for the GOP. If he can nick Lady Lindsey and Jeb from the race, mission complete.
#8. To: redleghunter, TooConservative, tomder55, CZ82, Stoner, Don, Bob Celeste, GarySpFc, Vicomte13, Deckard, rlk (#2)(Edited)
For each lucid response from Trump, a host of head scratching responses follow.
The only difference between Trump and Uncle Joe Biden is the occasional lucid remark concerning illegal immigrants:)
It's not really a surprise to much of us that Donald Trump is not a Christian. I would argue that most of our last several Presidents have NOT been Christian by deed:
0blabla, Dubya Bush (NO Christian IMO), Bubba Klintoon, Poppy Bush, Nixon, LBJ, Ike, FDR... The only one with any surety I believed was a Christian was Reagan. Of course, I could be wrong, but again, the evidence suggests otherwise.
Of the current crop of candidates on both sides of the aisle, you'd be hard-pressed to find a Christian candidate other than Cruz, Santorum, and Huck. The rest? Really -- who knows? Politics and Power is their "religion."
Where I believe Trump is doing "God's work" is in courageously tearing off all the masks of the phony players and exposing decades of lies and charades of a political Kabuki Theater that MOCK and obliterate the Judeo-Christian morals and ethics and traditions and heritage of the Founders'. As John Adams wrote, "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." Today, America is a Banana Republic, its government AND institutions awash in immorality.
For what it's worth, that Trumps has focused on the un-constitutional illegal invasion/amnesty issue is no small issue -- legalizing 50 million Mexican and Third World flotsam and jetsam amongst the electoral destroy this Republic. Supporting this policy is Treason. Trump has also attacked the the establishment pols for their conspiratorial, collaborative negligence in the treatment of vets. He's also questioned the loyalty and integrity of ALL our legislator and politicians, focusing on their malfeasance of policies that have destroyed and outsourced American jobs, industry, and factories. For this, the GOPe in particular warrants a special ire.
For what it's worth, that Trumps has focused on the un-constitutional illegal invasion/amnesty issue is no small issue -- legalizing 50 million Mexican and Third World flotsam and jetsam amongst the electoral destroy this Republic. Supporting this policy is Treason.
And when Trump fades off into the sunset the MSM will just say "See we tried to tell you he was full of schitt, we have no illegal immigrant problems".
And when Trump fades off into the sunset the MSM will just say "See we tried to tell you he was full of schitt, we have no illegal immigrant problems".
Yeah. Not only that, they will do all they can to destroy his life and reputation.
Meanwhile, Jose will be knocking on your door, "Yo soy de El Goobermento. Donde esta su los papeles, stupido Gringo??"
