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Title: Trump to Iowa evangelicals: Im not sure Ive ever asked God for forgiveness
Source: HotAir
URL Source: http://hotair.com/archives/2015/07/ ... ver-asked-god-for-forgiveness/
Published: Jul 20, 2015
Author: Allahpundit
Post Date: 2015-07-21 01:53:29 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 11602
Comments: 98

Take it from an atheist: Even an atheist could have faked a better answer than this. How is it that this guy, with all his billions, didn’t think to hire anyone to teach him to lie convincingly about faith when addressing an audience of Christian conservatives, the key to winning the Iowa caucuses? He should have called the White House. They could have hooked him up with whoever coached Obama on his fake opposition to gay marriage in 2008.

Byron York and the NYT are right that this answer will end up damaging Trump more than his shot at McCain’s war service will.
A senior Iowa Republican who was in the room, sitting with a group of grassroots activists as Trump spoke, was dumbfounded by the candidate’s views of religion. “While there were audible groans in the crowd when Trump questioned whether McCain was a war hero,” the senior Republican said via email, “it was Trump’s inability to articulate any coherent relationship with God or demonstrate the role faith plays in his life that really sucked the oxygen out of the room.”

The senior Republican continued: “Milling around talking to activists in the hallways/lobby after Trump’s speech, THAT is what those Iowa conservatives were discussing, not the McCain comment.”…

“Trump’s performance was really a one-two punch,” the Republican said. “His McCain comment gave free license to other candidates and the national political class to attack. His failure to demonstrate even the most rudimentary understanding of leading a faith-filled life will be his ultimate undoing with Iowa’s Christian conservative activists. Especially in a field with such credible alternatives.”

Watch the clip. The bit about him drinking his “little wine” and having his “little cracker” at church is … not Huckabean, shall we say, although I think it’s the second half of the vid that’s more revealing. (The very end includes his bit about McCain, which the video’s editor tacked on for whatever reason.) Luntz tosses him the softest of softballs — “what is your relationship with God?” — and Trump can’t help answering in terms of his personal success, presumably because that’s his yardstick for everything in life. God’s blessed him with an intellect capable of generating some of the great deals in business history; that’s evidence that their relationship’s pretty good, no? Luntz’s question very obviously cries out for the opposite answer, that riches and personal success mean nothing without grace and deep communion with the Almighty. He does note that he prays, but like I say, watch the clip. The mystery here is whether Trump simply misjudged his audience (in Iowa, at a forum devoted to family?) or he’s convinced himself that being his honest, unfiltered self is the key to ultimate victory. This will test that theory better than the McCain thing will.

A rival campaign strategist told York he doesn’t expect Trump to lose support for this so much as he thinks it’ll lower his ceiling in the state. If you’re an evangelical tea partier trying to decide between Trump and, say, Scott Walker or Ted Cruz, this’ll tip the scale towards the latter.


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Elsewhere, Ace observes: "He eventually grabs at an answer -- that "drinking the little wine" and "eating the little cracker" constitute, maybe, an asking of forgiveness from God. He doesn't sound very sure of that (I don't know either way myself), but has already, by then repeatedly said he doesn't even think to ask God for forgiveness. So if the "drinking of the little" wine is such a request, it is only inadvertent, accidental, and symbolic."

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#58. To: SOSO (#57)

Ok, you don't know. Got it.

Don  posted on  2015-07-21   22:04:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Don (#58)

Ok, you don't know. Got it.

What you don't have is a sense of humor. Or an understanding of the enormity of Dollar Donald's ego.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-21   22:27:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: SOSO (#59)

What I do understand is how afraid the Marxists in this nation are of Trump and how his enemies are desperately trying to discredit him. That is a favorite trick of the left to attack their enemies.

Don  posted on  2015-07-21   22:57:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Don (#60)

What I do understand is how afraid the Marxists in this nation are of Trump and how his enemies are desperately trying to discredit him. That is a favorite trick of the left to attack their enemies.

Just the Left?

Seriously, do you really think anybody in the power structure of the country is afraid of Trump? He will not get the REP nomination. He will very likely run 3rd party.

In the hell freezes over scenario of him winning the national election just what kind of support in Congress do you think he would have? Whatever it would be would be Drat and not enough to make him veto proof.

The most likely scenario is that he gives the election to Hillary and we have another 8 years of Obama. Is that what you what for the country?

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-21   23:17:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: SOSO (#61)

The most likely scenario is that he gives the election to Hillary and we have another 8 years of Obama. Is that what you what for the country?

Here is the mosty likely scenario.

Trump is the only one that has a chance of beating Bush.

People like you support 3 percent candidates and we get Jeb vs Hillary. Trump doesn't run third party. Hillary wins because her base loves her and half the Republicans or 80 percent don't like Bush.

So Bush can't win.

If Trump is the only one mathematically able to have a chance against Bush. Then he is the man because he is far better then the other two. Also he will expose all of them just for fun. So expect people to go to prison

So the choice will be in people like your hands. Do you go with Trump or allow Bush to lose to Hillary.

If Trump runs third party Hillary still probably wins.

So if someone else doesn't surge to take on Bush. Then it is your duty to vote for Trump unless you want Hillary.

My reasoning is without fault.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-21   23:24:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: A K A Stone (#62)

My reasoning is without fault.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...........................

Trump running as either the REP nominess or 3rd guarantess Hillary for eight years.

BTW, were you one of the stay at homes last election because you just couldn't vote for Mitt?

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-21   23:26:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: SOSO (#63)

Trump running as either the REP

Nope. I know several democrats that will vote for Trump. Also people who never voted before that are going to vote Trump.

I voted for Romney.

Zero chance I vote for Bush. Zero.

Zero chance my family votes for Bush.

You on the other hand would vote for Bush. You should be ashamed.

He is the same as Hillary on all foreign policy.

He gives lip service to social conservatives but the results will be the same as Hillary.

I'd rather have a chance to knock off Hillary in 4 years then go thru 8 years of bushit.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-21   23:35:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: A K A Stone (#64)

I voted for Romney.

That's a confession of feeble mindedness right there. Say no more.

rlk  posted on  2015-07-21   23:51:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: SOSO (#61)

I understand that Trump leads in the GOP listing of candidates.

Don  posted on  2015-07-22   0:00:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: A K A Stone (#64)

I'd rather have a chance to knock off Hillary in 4 years then go thru 8 years of bushit.

Well, you are free to live life on the edge if you choose.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-22   0:14:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: rlk, A K A Stone (#65)

voted for Romney.

That's a confession of feeble mindedness right there. Say no more.

Oh, so you voted for Obama. Well, that does say it all.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-22   0:16:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Don (#66)

I understand that Trump leads in the GOP listing of candidates.

So they say. Are you a betting man?

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-22   0:16:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: A K A Stone (#64)

I'd rather have a chance to knock off Hillary in 4 years then go thru 8 years of bushit.

So you would vote for Hillary over Bush?

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-22   0:20:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: SOSO (#68)

Oh, so you voted for Obama.

Nope. I voted for Goode trying to make a meaningful change. As far as I was concerned, Romney was slicker form of Obama with a white face.

rlk  posted on  2015-07-22   0:25:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: rlk (#71)

Nope. I voted for Goode trying to make a meaningful change.

Chya....a lot of goode that did you and the country. Keep up the goode work.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-22   0:28:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: SOSO (#72)

Nope. I voted for Goode trying to make a meaningful change.

Chya....a lot of goode that did you and the country. Keep up the goode work.

Ho ho! If you read Goode's synopsis of his platform, he had the bases covered. Romney's performance during the Obama Romney debates approximated that of a pampered jr. high school student. He expected family name recognition and a handsome face to carry the day while he stammered for answers he had never considered. He was far out of his depth. So are you.

rlk  posted on  2015-07-22   0:55:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: TooConservative (#51)

That's true. Butterflies might fly out of my ass. One never knows...

Well please report back if such happens.

For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.---John 1:17

redleghunter  posted on  2015-07-22   1:12:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: rlk (#73)

He was far out of his depth. So are you.

I know but I sometimes enjoy visiting you bottom feeders.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-22   1:26:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: SOSO (#69)

My wife doesn't give me a large enough allowance for betting. I can't even get an occasional lottery ticket. That has nothing to do with the Marxists in the room.

Don  posted on  2015-07-22   4:41:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: redleghunter (#74)

Some people should carry a net for the occasional butterfly accident.

Don  posted on  2015-07-22   4:42:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: SOSO (#70)

So you would vote for Hillary over Bush?

I'll vote third party if that is the ticket.

So you'd rather have Hillary then Trump?

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-22   7:12:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: TooConservative (#51)

Butterflies might fly out of my ass.

Those aren't butterflies. It's Diarrhea. Have hospice clean you up.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-22   7:15:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Don (#77)

:)

For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.---John 1:17

redleghunter  posted on  2015-07-22   9:01:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: A K A Stone (#64)

I voted for Romney.

Zero chance I vote for Bush. Zero. ... He gives lip service to social conservatives but the results will be the same as Hillary.

I'd rather have a chance to knock off Hillary in 4 years then go thru 8 years of bushit.

Wow. I could have written those exact words myself.

Exactly.

Jeb Bush will be the Republican nominee, and that will mean a Hillary victory. The only person in the field who can beat Hillary is Trump.

Truth is, Republicans would rather lose to Hillary than lose control of their party. So they will.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-07-22   9:37:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: SOSO (#70)

So you would vote for Hillary over Bush?

I won't vote for her, but if it's Clinton v. Bush, I hope Clinton wins. And she will.

If it's Trump versus Clinton, I'll vote for Trump, and he'll win.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-07-22   9:46:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: SOSO, A K A Stone, Jeb Trump 2020, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#70) (Edited)

So you would vote for Hillary over Bush?

You're both working for the Ready for Hillary campaign, and only arguing about which loser Republican is best to get her elected.

By voting for Willie-Mitt you've inspired a whole new class of lowlife Republican candidates.... Jeb! Bush, Lindsey Graham, Pataki, Chris Crisco, Trump the Clown, Rafael the Canuck, Marco Rubio, etc. You asked for crap, you got it!

If the GOP wanted to win they'd run at least one decent candidate. They're backing Hillary, so that Boehner can whine and cry about Dems for another four years, while giving them everything that they ask for.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-07-22   11:53:11 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: hondo68 (#83)

You're just mad because they don't support abortion and the candidates that you support do. You're just a hack from planned parenthood that likes hacking little kids up.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-22   14:30:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: hondo68 (#83)

If the GOP wanted to win they'd run at least one decent candidate.

You're just a spokesman for planned parenthood. Last time you recommended Gary Johnson. Pro abort weirdo. You just want candidates that hack up little kids. You're sicko. All your candidates are the same hack and blood.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-22   14:33:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: A K A Stone (#85)

They all belong in an insane asylum, or jail.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-07-22   14:57:53 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: hondo68, A K A Stone (#83)

You're both working for the Ready for Hillary campaign, and only arguing about which loser Republican is best to get her elected.

You are probably quite correct about the old guard Reps that are running. The newer faces are a different story. Trump is not in that latter category. He has been and still a real bad smelly fart.

BTW, I deregistered as Republicn a few years ago. They really are the Party of Stupid. And I have come around to the notion that there is not too much difference bewteen the establishment Ds & Rs save for one major difference - the Ds hold ranks and don't eat their own.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-22   15:17:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: SOSO (#75)

He was far out of his depth. So are you.

I know but I sometimes enjoy visiting you bottom feeders.

You can do or say anything you want from complacent safety 599 oe 1,000 miles away. For my part I come here relegated to dealing with witty people with mental deficieny or psychiatric problems in the vain hope of improving them in attempts to save the country. It's getting to be a task I am reviewing and thinking of giving up as tiring and useless.

rlk  posted on  2015-07-22   17:21:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: rlk (#88)

For my part I come here relegated to dealing with witty people with mental deficieny or psychiatric problems in the vain hope of improving them in attempts to save the country. It's getting to be a task I am reviewing and thinking of giving up as tiring and useless.

Perhaps you should wait until you are invited to practice your voodoo on someone. Just a suggestion.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-22   17:55:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: SOSO (#89)

People have been sitting around being polite. Being polite doesn't always work.

Don  posted on  2015-07-22   18:10:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Don (#90)

People have been sitting around being polite. Being polite doesn't always work.

Depends on the circumstances and the people involved. Christ wasn't always polite.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-22   18:14:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: SOSO (#89)

Perhaps you should wait until you are invited to practice your voodoo on someone.

More brilliant wit to affirm my earleir contention and brighten my day.

rlk  posted on  2015-07-22   18:15:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: hondo68 (#86)

I can't believe Bush has 14% must be all of those retarded east coast pubbies that like his BS bluster, he's nothing more than an overgrown Vienna sausage.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-07-22   18:19:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: rlk (#92)

Perhaps you should wait until you are invited to practice your voodoo on someone.

More brilliant wit to affirm my earleir contention and brighten my day.

Thank you. No charge.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-22   19:08:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: SOSO, rlk (#89)

or my part I come here relegated to dealing with witty people with mental deficieny or psychiatric problems in the vain hope of improving them in attempts to save the country.

All 20 or so to be found here among the extremely opinionated LF posters, a real herd of cats?

It would be laughable if it wasn't so delusional. "I'm on a mission to the Great Unwashed of LF...am I wasting my time?..."

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-07-22   21:24:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: TooConservative, rlk (#95)

"I'm on a mission to the Great Unwashed of LF...am I wasting my time?..."

Who sent you? Have soap?

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-22   21:37:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Deckard, ALL (#27)

That certainly is your right as an insurance salesman who poses as an "expert" in demolitions and believes every official fairy tale spewed by fed.gov and the MSM.r

I'm willing to post anywhere from $100 to $1000 for each occupation to prove myself. How much of my funds are you willing to bet against?

And the words of the LORD are flawless, like silver refined* in a furnace of clay, purified seven times. Psalm 12:6

GarySpFC  posted on  2015-07-22   22:09:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: TooConservative (#95)

"I'm on a mission to the Great Unwashed of LF

I din't use the term great Unwashed in my post, you attributed to me. It's an example of your psychological distortion and immaturity.

rlk  posted on  2015-07-22   23:14:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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