Take it from an atheist: Even an atheist could have faked a better answer than this. How is it that this guy, with all his billions, didnt think to hire anyone to teach him to lie convincingly about faith when addressing an audience of Christian conservatives, the key to winning the Iowa caucuses? He should have called the White House. They could have hooked him up with whoever coached Obama on his fake opposition to gay marriage in 2008.
Byron York and the NYT are right that this answer will end up damaging Trump more than his shot at McCains war service will.
A senior Iowa Republican who was in the room, sitting with a group of grassroots activists as Trump spoke, was dumbfounded by the candidates views of religion. While there were audible groans in the crowd when Trump questioned whether McCain was a war hero, the senior Republican said via email, it was Trumps inability to articulate any coherent relationship with God or demonstrate the role faith plays in his life that really sucked the oxygen out of the room.
The senior Republican continued: Milling around talking to activists in the hallways/lobby after Trumps speech, THAT is what those Iowa conservatives were discussing, not the McCain comment.
Trumps performance was really a one-two punch, the Republican said. His McCain comment gave free license to other candidates and the national political class to attack. His failure to demonstrate even the most rudimentary understanding of leading a faith-filled life will be his ultimate undoing with Iowas Christian conservative activists. Especially in a field with such credible alternatives.
Watch the clip. The bit about him drinking his little wine and having his little cracker at church is not Huckabean, shall we say, although I think its the second half of the vid thats more revealing. (The very end includes his bit about McCain, which the videos editor tacked on for whatever reason.) Luntz tosses him the softest of softballs what is your relationship with God? and Trump cant help answering in terms of his personal success, presumably because thats his yardstick for everything in life. Gods blessed him with an intellect capable of generating some of the great deals in business history; thats evidence that their relationships pretty good, no? Luntzs question very obviously cries out for the opposite answer, that riches and personal success mean nothing without grace and deep communion with the Almighty. He does note that he prays, but like I say, watch the clip. The mystery here is whether Trump simply misjudged his audience (in Iowa, at a forum devoted to family?) or hes convinced himself that being his honest, unfiltered self is the key to ultimate victory. This will test that theory better than the McCain thing will.
A rival campaign strategist told York he doesnt expect Trump to lose support for this so much as he thinks itll lower his ceiling in the state. If youre an evangelical tea partier trying to decide between Trump and, say, Scott Walker or Ted Cruz, thisll tip the scale towards the latter.
Poster Comment:
Elsewhere, Ace observes: "He eventually grabs at an answer -- that "drinking the little wine" and "eating the little cracker" constitute, maybe, an asking of forgiveness from God. He doesn't sound very sure of that (I don't know either way myself), but has already, by then repeatedly said he doesn't even think to ask God for forgiveness. So if the "drinking of the little" wine is such a request, it is only inadvertent, accidental, and symbolic."
What I do understand is how afraid the Marxists in this nation are of Trump and how his enemies are desperately trying to discredit him. That is a favorite trick of the left to attack their enemies.
What I do understand is how afraid the Marxists in this nation are of Trump and how his enemies are desperately trying to discredit him. That is a favorite trick of the left to attack their enemies.
Just the Left?
Seriously, do you really think anybody in the power structure of the country is afraid of Trump? He will not get the REP nomination. He will very likely run 3rd party.
In the hell freezes over scenario of him winning the national election just what kind of support in Congress do you think he would have? Whatever it would be would be Drat and not enough to make him veto proof.
The most likely scenario is that he gives the election to Hillary and we have another 8 years of Obama. Is that what you what for the country?
The most likely scenario is that he gives the election to Hillary and we have another 8 years of Obama. Is that what you what for the country?
Here is the mosty likely scenario.
Trump is the only one that has a chance of beating Bush.
People like you support 3 percent candidates and we get Jeb vs Hillary. Trump doesn't run third party. Hillary wins because her base loves her and half the Republicans or 80 percent don't like Bush.
So Bush can't win.
If Trump is the only one mathematically able to have a chance against Bush. Then he is the man because he is far better then the other two. Also he will expose all of them just for fun. So expect people to go to prison
So the choice will be in people like your hands. Do you go with Trump or allow Bush to lose to Hillary.
If Trump runs third party Hillary still probably wins.
So if someone else doesn't surge to take on Bush. Then it is your duty to vote for Trump unless you want Hillary.
#83. To: SOSO, A K A Stone, Jeb Trump 2020, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#70)(Edited)
So you would vote for Hillary over Bush?
You're both working for the Ready for Hillary campaign, and only arguing about which loser Republican is best to get her elected.
By voting for Willie-Mitt you've inspired a whole new class of lowlife Republican candidates.... Jeb! Bush, Lindsey Graham, Pataki, Chris Crisco, Trump the Clown, Rafael the Canuck, Marco Rubio, etc. You asked for crap, you got it!
If the GOP wanted to win they'd run at least one decent candidate. They're backing Hillary, so that Boehner can whine and cry about Dems for another four years, while giving them everything that they ask for.