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Title: Hillary Clinton Condemns Donald Trump’s ‘Insults’ of ‘Genuine War Hero’ John McCain
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ABC News
URL Source: http://abcnews.go.com/beta/Politics ... -genuine-war/story?id=32543623
Published: Jul 19, 2015
Author: liz kreutz
Post Date: 2015-07-19 21:24:07 by Hondo68
Keywords: grit and guts and character, Sec of State John Kerry, a genuine war hero
Views: 19820
Comments: 77
Leave it to Donald Trump to help Republicans and Democrats find common ground. Hillary Clinton joined the chorus of presidential candidates from both parties Saturday to condemn Trump for saying Sen. John McCain, a decorated Vietnam War veteran, was not a war hero. During her headlining speech at a Democratic dinner in Little Rock, Ark. Clinton called Trump’s assertion “shameful” and described McCain as a “genuine war hero.” “Donald Trump, finally a candidate whose hair gets more attention that mine,” Clinton quipped. “But, there’s nothing funny about the hate he is spewing at immigrants and their families, and now the insults he’s directed at a genuine war hero, Senator John McCain,” she added. “It’s shameful, and so is the fact that it took so long for most of his fellow Republican candidates to start standing up to him.” Earlier today, Trump came under fire for saying at a campaign event in Iowa that McCain is only a war hero “because he was captured.” The comment has drawn criticism from a slew of his Republican presidential challengers, as well as Clinton and Secretary of State John Kerry. “I have known John McCain for more than thirty years. We've had our share of disagreements and still do today. But one thing I know is beyond debate is that John McCain is a hero, a man of grit and guts and character personified,” Kerry said in a statement released tonight. McCain spent five and a half years as a POW after he was captured in 1967 while flying his 23rd bombing mission over North Vietnam. His aircraft was shot down by a missile and he nearly drowned landing in a lake. He had his shoulder crushed by his captors, who refused to treat his injuries, which were exacerbated by beatings administered during interrogations. He survived a program of severe torture and his wartime injuries restrict him from lifting his arms above his head. Clinton made her attack against Trump during her first trip back to Arkansas since becoming a presidential candidate. In her speech, Clinton attacked the GOP for being the “party of the past.” She also reminisced fondly about her years spent in Little Rock. Looking out at the many familiar faces she saw in the crowd, Clinton thanked her longtime friends: “I hope you know that you mean the world to me and my family,” she said. Poster Comment: Hillary's trying to pump up Trump's approval ratings, because he's the easiest for her to beat. Another experienced loser, John F'n Kerry agrees. 
Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton speaks during the Iowa Democratic Party's Hall of Fame Dinner, Friday, July 17, 2015, in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. Charlie Neibergall/AP PHOTO
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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)
Wait a minute. Is John McLameBrain running for president again? I remember when Bob (Viagra) Dole made a similar backhand slap to Poppy Bush when they were bofe candidates - Poppy was famous for getting shot down in the Pacific, while Viagra Man had bunches of military awards and commendations. I guess it was okay because they were bofe WW2 vets. I honestly think that Trump is rolling out the red carpet for Hildebeast...in his own way of doing things.
If that is what you really think. Then I think you're really dumb.
Trump is a graduate of the New York Military Academy, Class of 1964.
A elementary and high school for troubled youts from wealthy families. It's cheaper to send their children to the lock-ups of private military schools than it is to pay the lawyers to defend them.
Do you consider yourself a war hero?
No. Why do you ask?
Why do you ask? Because you said you went to war. I also think I recall you saying that everyone who went to Viet Nam was a hero. he·ro ÈhirM/ noun 1. a person, typically a man, who is admired or idealized for courage, outstanding achievements, or noble qualities.
Why do you ask? Because you said you went to war. I also think I recall you saying that everyone who went to Viet Nam was a hero. You recall wrong. In FACT I have written numerous times that the majority of the people who went to VN during the VN war never heard a shot fired,and would have been in more danger living in Detroit. In the broader sense,"heroes" in the military are people who purposely put themselves in harms way by exposing themselves to enemy fire to defeat the enemy and/or to protect others. In a SPECIFIC sense,heroes are individuals that have been recognized and awarded for individual actions that resulted in personal awards/medals being awarded to them. For example,every member of a unit that gets a Presidential Unit Citation wears the citation on their uniform as a group award,but personal awards,from basic rifle qualifications as a sharpshooter,marksman,or expert shooter (for the army and USMC) or the US Havy/USCG/USAF equivalent and up is given as an individual award. When you are in the military you wear your bio on your chest when wearing your dress uniform. One quick glance can tell another that is knowledgable about awards and citations where you have been,and a rough idea of what you did while there. I will admit that in MY opinion the lowliest personell clerk that went to VN exhibited more courage than those that dodged the draft or sought safe slots in NG units. I don't think I have ever written that before,though. Yes,it IS possible that some of those people were sufficiently courageous to have gone there and done what was required of them as a rifleman,door gunner,etc,etc,etc,but sought deferments for reasons having nothing to do with fear.
In McCain's case ,he was offered a chance to be freed early because he was an admiral's son ,and he refused to go if he was the only prisoner being freed . He believed that the prisoners who were captured before he was should be released 1st .
Even IF we concede you point that McCain's gesture was "heroic," does it make him a "hero"?? Did his gesture SAVE anyone? Overall, how is a special Veterans Committee Arizona Senator who conspired with Kerry NOT to help negotiate forcefully on the return of Nam POWs a "hero"? He's done minimally to help vets in AZ, has sabotaged all efforts to make America conservative, as a patsy, purposely sabotaged his own the election in 2008, has conspired with the agenda and Leftists of the Dem Party (Hitlery, 0blabla, etal.), was implicated in the 'Keating 5' grand larceny, has negotiated, enabled and abetted ISIS personally. John McCain is NO "hero," Tom. He's an out and out traitor to the uniform, to the nation, to the American people, to GOD.
I am not a fan of McCain but the MIA POWs held by the Vietnamese after the war was over is a myth.
Based on what source of information?
Based on what source of information? One of many articles via Google: http://www.csmonitor.com/1992/0113/13204.html Lay the POW/MIA Myth to Rest January 13, 1992 In the December 1991 Atlantic, scholar H. Bruce Franklin writes, "Every responsible investigation conducted since the end of the war has reached the same conclusion: There is no credible evidence that live Americans are being held against their will in Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, or China." Yet the myth survives, fanned partly by the bereaved families and partly by others for their own reasons. It should be laid decently to rest.
NOT believable, not can or should the word of Franklin be believed. You can believe whatever myths and propaganda you want. It's what you do.
The Rambo and Chuck Norris movies where they rescue POWs from Vietnam in the 80s are not documentaries.
What?? You didn't believe Rambo 1-3 was gospel?? Next you'll be telling me 'The Expendables' is a fairy tale. :-( Fact: McStain and Kerry did NOTHING to retrieve what WERE men-left-behind. WHEN THEY COULD HAVE. I wouldn't doubt that you'd believe it -- much less care. By now, these guys would be in their mid-60s or older. Doubtful that many have survived. It is a sin what the US State Dept has ALWAYS done to America.
LOL, I saw one of those movies...A bunch of old dudes having fun with their younger Hollywood persona's. Which is entertaining:) Amazing how none of the bullets hit any of the main 'stars'.
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#3. To: Fred Mertz (#1)
I honestly think that Trump is rolling out the red carpet for Hildebeast...in his own way of doing things.
#10. To: A K A Stone (#3)
#17. To: Pericles (#10)
Trump is a graduate of the New York Military Academy, Class of 1964.
#18. To: sneakypete (#17)
#20. To: A K A Stone (#18)
Do you consider yourself a war hero?
#22. To: sneakypete (#20)
No.
#27. To: A K A Stone (#22)
No. i W
#32. To: sneakypete, Pericles, A K A Stone (#27)
In the broader sense,"heroes" in the military are people who purposely put themselves in harms way by exposing themselves to enemy fire to defeat the enemy and/or to protect others.
#34. To: tomder55, sneakypete, Pericles, A K A Stone (#32)
In McCain's case ,he was offered a chance to be freed early because he was an admiral's son ,and he refused to go if he was the only prisoner being freed . He believed that the prisoners who were captured before he was should be released 1st .
#36. To: Liberator, tomder55, sneakypete, A K A Stone (#34)
how is a special Veterans Committee Arizona Senator who conspired with Kerry NOT to help negotiate forcefully on the return of Nam POWs a "hero"?
#38. To: Pericles (#36)
The MIA POWs held by the Vietnamese after the war was over is a myth.
#40. To: Liberator (#38)
The MIA POWs held by the Vietnamese after the war was over is a myth.
#41. To: Pericles (#40)
In the December 1991 Atlantic, scholar H. Bruce Franklin writes, "Every responsible investigation conducted since the end of the war has reached the same conclusion: There is no credible evidence that live Americans are being held against their will in Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, or China."
#43. To: Liberator (#41)
You can believe whatever myths and propaganda you want. It's what you do.
#46. To: Pericles (#43)
The Rambo and Chuck Norris movies where they rescue POWs from Vietnam in the 80s are not documentaries.
#63. To: Liberator (#46)
Next you'll be telling me 'The Expendables' is a fairy tale.
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