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Title: Hillary Clinton Condemns Donald Trump’s ‘Insults’ of ‘Genuine War Hero’ John McCain
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ABC News
URL Source: http://abcnews.go.com/beta/Politics ... -genuine-war/story?id=32543623
Published: Jul 19, 2015
Author: liz kreutz
Post Date: 2015-07-19 21:24:07 by Hondo68
Keywords: grit and guts and character, Sec of State John Kerry, a genuine war hero
Views: 19744
Comments: 77
Leave it to Donald Trump to help Republicans and Democrats find common ground. Hillary Clinton joined the chorus of presidential candidates from both parties Saturday to condemn Trump for saying Sen. John McCain, a decorated Vietnam War veteran, was not a war hero. During her headlining speech at a Democratic dinner in Little Rock, Ark. Clinton called Trump’s assertion “shameful” and described McCain as a “genuine war hero.” “Donald Trump, finally a candidate whose hair gets more attention that mine,” Clinton quipped. “But, there’s nothing funny about the hate he is spewing at immigrants and their families, and now the insults he’s directed at a genuine war hero, Senator John McCain,” she added. “It’s shameful, and so is the fact that it took so long for most of his fellow Republican candidates to start standing up to him.” Earlier today, Trump came under fire for saying at a campaign event in Iowa that McCain is only a war hero “because he was captured.” The comment has drawn criticism from a slew of his Republican presidential challengers, as well as Clinton and Secretary of State John Kerry. “I have known John McCain for more than thirty years. We've had our share of disagreements and still do today. But one thing I know is beyond debate is that John McCain is a hero, a man of grit and guts and character personified,” Kerry said in a statement released tonight. McCain spent five and a half years as a POW after he was captured in 1967 while flying his 23rd bombing mission over North Vietnam. His aircraft was shot down by a missile and he nearly drowned landing in a lake. He had his shoulder crushed by his captors, who refused to treat his injuries, which were exacerbated by beatings administered during interrogations. He survived a program of severe torture and his wartime injuries restrict him from lifting his arms above his head. Clinton made her attack against Trump during her first trip back to Arkansas since becoming a presidential candidate. In her speech, Clinton attacked the GOP for being the “party of the past.” She also reminisced fondly about her years spent in Little Rock. Looking out at the many familiar faces she saw in the crowd, Clinton thanked her longtime friends: “I hope you know that you mean the world to me and my family,” she said. Poster Comment: Hillary's trying to pump up Trump's approval ratings, because he's the easiest for her to beat. Another experienced loser, John F'n Kerry agrees. 
Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton speaks during the Iowa Democratic Party's Hall of Fame Dinner, Friday, July 17, 2015, in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. Charlie Neibergall/AP PHOTO
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ForbidenKnowledgeTV Uploaded on Dec 1, 2011 by iwillspyonyou Text by Ken Adachi (with light editing by AB) Earl Hopper spent 30 years with the Army in Airborne Special Services and with Army Intelligence and he was a founding member of the National League of Families, dedicated to returning living POWs and MIAs of the Vietnam War. He and those interviewed purport that the narrative propagated by McCain, of his five and a half years as a Prisoner of War in North Vietnam is about as far from the truth as one could possibly imagine. They allege that McCain, from the very first moments of his capture behaved as a COLLABORATOR and propaganda tool for his North Vietnamese captors. McCain is described as engaging in no less than 30, and up to 38 anti-American propaganda broadcasts for Radio Hanoi during the period of his captivity. Far from the image of the dedicated American “hero” sweating it out in a North Vietnamese prisoner’s “hotbox” for five and half years, McCain was observed by fellow prisoners to be receiving special treatment by his captors, who were fully aware of his father’s and grandfather’s 4-star Admiral positions with the US Navy. Not a single contemporary captive interviewed here ever witnessed McCain’s alleged “torture” at the hands of his jailers. The consensus opinion of the other POWs in McCain’s camps was that McCain was actually NEVER tortured by the North Vietnamese. McCain’s disgraceful and wholly reprehensible conduct (along with that of John Kerry) during the 1991-93 Senate Committee on POW/MIAs, where McCain made massive efforts to block the release of classified documents and is described the person who did the most harm to the movement of families who wanted to rescue any remaining loved ones. McCain is described by those interviewed in this clip as perhaps the person who did the most to quash this movement and they suspect that this was because he didn’t want the truth to be revealed by them. To them, his actions leave no doubt that McCain is a traitor to this country and its veterans and especially, to the families of POWs and MIAs. John McCain: Traitor Vietnam Vets and POWs https://youtu.be/IMcYqtayU7c McCain blocked release of documents, cover-up, Earl Hopper, educate- yourself.org, exposed, John Kerry, John McCain, MIAs, National League of Families, North Vietnamese, POWs, Prisoner of War, propaganda, special treatment, vietnam, Vietnam War, was actually NEVER tortured. educate- yourself.org/cn/earlhoppe...html#sthash.JEDnkwds.dpuf
There can be no doubt about that. There can also be no doubt that he was a hero right up to the time he was shot down and captured. OR the fact that there is no shame in being captured and made into a POW. In fact,one EARNED a Medal of Honor for his conduct AFTER becoming a POW,and in FACT,was NOT even captured. He SURRENDERED. He surrendered in order to be able to take care of his wounded friends because he knew the communists would just execute them if they became a burden. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humbert_Roque_Versace I know of one other soldier that was given a Medal of Honor after literally fighint all night at a outpost as the only mobile member of a platoon. He would run from one position to the other to fool the Chinese into thinking all the positions were manned,and he would supply ammunition to a few of the wounded who could still shoot,but were unable to walk. He SURRENDERED shortly before sunrise because he was literally out of ammunition to hold the enemy off,and because he wan't to be able to treat his wounded after they became prisoners of the Chinese. He was the platoon sgt,and felt responsible for them. His surrender efforts went all to hell when the Chinese started bayonetting the wounded where they lie,and he picked up an entrenching tool and started killing Chinese soldiers with it. When the relief element finally got to that hilltop after sunrise,he was the only walking man on the hill,and the area and the hillside leading up to it was covered with the bodies of Chinese soldiers. Ola Mize died within the last 2 years,and he was one of the nicest and most modest men you could ever hope to meet. A true gentleman in every sense of the word and admired by everyone who ever met him. He got a battlefield promotion after the hill incident,and retired as a Colonel. One final note. Even though I have nothing but contempt for the politician John McLunatic and the treasonous acts he has committed since being elected to public office,I can't criticize him for the things he did as a POW. NOBODY knows what they would do given the same set of circumstances,including me. I would like to think I would stand strong like Rocky did,but there are damn few of us born with the same stuff that Rocky had,and the only way to find out is to be put in that position.
Everyone that goes to Vietnam isn't a hero. He wasn't. He did serve honorably though. I'll give him that, because it is true.
Which are you,a fool or a liar? WTF do YOU know about combat or what it takes to be a hero? You never served a day in uniform,and you have never been shot at. McLunatic,as a second-rate pilot (which made it even more dangerous) flew loaded fighter-bombers off of a carrier deck,and then flew into areas loaded with anti-aircraft cannons as well as SAM missile sites in order to drop his bombs. These were the old "dumb" bombs you had to be in visual contact with your target before you could drop them. EVERYBODY that did that qualifies as a hero because it required a great deal of courage to do them.
So you are a liar and you consider yourself a war hero. McCain wasn't. Like the word marriage the word hero has meaning too. The word stupid also has meaning. Look it up it describes you.
Nobody on LF is a bigger liar than you. I know what your program is. You know I get really pissed off at being called a liar,and you are trying to chase me off so you don't have to deal with the truth about your lust bunny and idol,Trump. You want to do that so you can pretend you are open-minded and I left of my own accord,or even that you chased me away. That's what's behind all those bullshit 1 day suspensions. You ain't fooling anybody but yourself.
Look -- neither one of you will back down on your respective (prickly, stubborn) position. I'm as stubborn as a mule sometimes, but sometime we gotta just move on to other posters and subjects. I've enjoyed both your posts over the many years, gentlemen. MANY years. This life is too short. Like LP, LF has provided an important and informative outlet and venting mechanism -- even for those with which we disagree. Stone, on behalf of everyone here, we appreciate the freedom and forum to open up on a myriad of subjects. And cleaning up the place of trolls. Thank you. Over at Stalinist FR, JR and his Mods have just censored ALL Protestants as "bashers" of Catholics. As the usual idiots cheer him and his "ZOTS!" on. Lord knows Pete and I (as well as few others here) have had many passionate, personal disagreements. He gives it, he takes it. Ok, over and done with. We will never see eye to eye on some things. That said, it doesn't mean he hates me, or I hate him. I still love the guy, and I love you and others here. Sneakypete is a man with his own opinions. You are you also your own man. That will not change. Unless someone is trying to hijack your forum with a specific, subversive, agenda or masquerading as several trolls, please let this go. Just my humble opinion for with it's worth.
Good post. Things always get crazy leading into a presidential election. Lots of hysteria and hype. Truth is by the time we get to the general election, it makes no difference if a R or D wins. The D&R party's prime directive is to make sure both candidates SUCK equally, so that there's no real choice. So mellow out, IMO. If you want some sort of change for the better, look beyond the D&R flim flam scam.
Looks like Trump just stepped on his own dick, (it was only a matter of time) time for the next candidate to step into the the spotlight. Scott Walker perhaps or a few others before we get to him, hmmmmm??
#59. To: CZ82, hondo68, tomder55, sneakypete, redleghunter, TooConservative, Deckard, A K A Stone (#58)
No prob. He'll just patch the tire up and keep rolling, and running over other GOPe phonies and their policies ;-)
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#19. To: out damned spot (#13)
He and those interviewed purport that the narrative propagated by McCain, of his five and a half years as a Prisoner of War in North Vietnam is about as far from the truth as one could possibly imagine. They allege that McCain, from the very first moments of his capture behaved as a COLLABORATOR and propaganda tool for his North Vietnamese captors.
#21. To: sneakypete (#19)
There can also be no doubt that he was a hero right up to the time he was shot down and captured.
#24. To: A K A Stone (#21)
Everyone that goes to Vietnam isn't a hero. He wasn't.
#26. To: sneakypete (#24)
#30. To: A K A Stone (#26)
So you are a liar and you consider yourself a war hero.
#37. To: A K A Stone, sneakypete, redleghunter, TooConservative, CZ82, Deckard (#30)
#42. To: Liberator, sneakypete, redleghunter, TooConservative, CZ82, Deckard, A K A Stone (#37)
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#58. To: hondo68, tomder55, Liberator, sneakypete, redleghunter, TooConservative, Deckard, A K A Stone (#42)
Things always get crazy leading into a presidential election. Lots of hysteria and hype.
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